6-4-2018 The NEUTRAL Zone -the FIRST Show

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Show # 1   6-4-2018 JASON SCHWARTZ Premiere of The NEUTRAL Zone

Summary & Transcript Below

1. 1. 1. Summary of Video Content: The Neutral Zone Political Show with Jason Schwartz

1. 1. 1. 1. [00:00 → 05:34] Introduction and Show Concept

• The host, Jason Schwartz, outlines the purpose and format of the new political season show called “The Neutral Zone”.
• The show aims to provide a neutral platform for diverse voices, focusing on local Maui and Hawaiian political and social issues rather than national controversies.
• Guests will range from community leaders, activists, musicians, and everyday citizens.
• The show will feature live call-ins, interviews, and discussions about important issueswith an emphasis on understanding different perspectives.
• Jason references his long political involvement since the early 1990s as a Green Party candidate, emphasizing the evolving political landscape and the persistence of core values around environment, social justice, and grassroots democracy.
• The show’s tone is intended to be constructive and civil, avoiding the hostile and combative climate often seen on social media and national platforms.

1. 1. 1. 1. [05:34 → 11:57] Format and Community Engagement

• The show plans to be a dynamic, mixed-media forum including music and video clips, aiming to be a gateway for political awareness in Maui.
• Jason stresses the importance of community input and evolving the format based on listener feedback.
• The show is positioned as a long-term platform beyond just the election season, focusing on ongoing community dialogues.
• There is an expressed desire to avoid typical political “bashing” and instead foster honest, open conversations inspired by ho’oponopono, a Hawaiian practice of reconciliation and balance.
• The show will air Monday mornings at 11 a.m. on KAKU 88.5 FM.

1. 1. 1. 1. [17:29 → 20:13] Election Season Context and Political Landscape

• Jason discusses the early candidate interviews by the Maui Pono Network, noting their focus on a limited slate of candidates and the need to provide a broader platform.
• The show intends to highlight lesser-known or last-minute candidates who might not get coverage elsewhere.
• Jason mentions other local political shows but emphasizes that The Neutral Zone is non-competitive and non-combative, aiming for a different style of political engagement.
• A brief commercial break features public service announcements related to childhood hunger and local farming initiatives.

1. 1. 1. 1. [21:14 → 27:25] Introduction to Guest: Nikhil Ananda (Green Party Candidate)

• Jason introduces Nikhil Ananda, a longtime Green Party member and candidate for Hawaii State House District on Maui.
• Attempts to connect with Nikhil via phone are initially plagued by technical difficultiesinvolving audio delays and looping.
• Jason explains the significance of the Green Party presence in Maui County, noting multiple Green candidates running this election, a historic high for the party locally.
• Emphasis is placed on the Green Party’s values and community involvement as an alternative to the two major parties.

1. 1. 1. 1. [27:25 → 44:58] Interview with Nikhil Ananda – Political Views and Priorities

• Despite ongoing technical challenges, Jason and Nikhil engage in a substantive discussion about:
  • Campaign finance reform and the challenges of competing with well-funded incumbents.
  • Redistricting concerns and the need for fairer political boundaries that better represent rural areas such as Molokai, Lanai, and East Maui.
  • The lack of significant change in election processes over the years.
  • Nikhil’s environmental advocacy, including:
    • Opposition to GMOs and restricted-use pesticides.
    • Support for restoring water flow to East Maui streams to protect agricultural and cultural practices.
  • The Green Party’s four pillars: grassroots democracy, non-violence, social justice, and ecological wisdom.
  • Criticism of the Democratic Party’s current leadership and lobbying influence.
  • The need for education reform in Hawaii, highlighting bureaucracy and lack of transparency in state education spending.
• Nikhil shares his extensive educational background and experience in political science, law, mediation, and teaching.
• He voices concern that despite decades of activism, many core issues remain unaddressed, with political leadership often recycling the same faces and ideas.
• Nikhil stresses the importance of prison reform, noting the high number of Hawaiians incarcerated on the mainland.
• He references the evolving stance on marijuana legalization as an example of social progress from fringe to mainstream.
• Nikhil underscores the diversity and complexity of his district, which includes multiple islands and rural communities with distinct needs.
• He emphasizes the need for representatives who will stand by principles and serve the community’s interests rather than political expediency.
• Nikhil advocates for giving new candidates a chance, assuring voters that they can remove them if they don’t deliver.

1. 1. 1. 1. [44:58 → 50:38] Closing Remarks and Show Wrap-up

• Jason commends Nikhil for his depth of knowledge and commitment to progressive issues, encouraging listeners to hear his perspectives.
• The interview is acknowledged as somewhat awkward due to technical limitations, but meaningful insights were still conveyed.
• Nikhil reiterates his candidacy for State House District on Maui and invites voters to consider the issues he champions.
• Jason thanks the audience and promises smoother future shows with better technical setup.
• The episode closes with appreciation for community engagement and a call to stay tuned for upcoming discussions.

1. 1. 1. Key Insights and Themes

• Neutral Zone aims to be a civil, open, and educational political forum focused on local Maui and Hawaiian issues.
• The show values diversity of opinion, featuring Green Party and other local candidates often overlooked in mainstream media.
• The Green Party’s core principles continue to drive their platform: grassroots democracy, non-violence, social justice, and ecological wisdom.
• Persistent issues remain unresolved even after decades: campaign finance reform, fair redistricting, environmental protection, education reform, and prison reform.
• Technical challenges during the live interview illustrate the difficulties of independent community media but do not diminish the importance of sharing these voices.
• The show encourages community participation and promises to provide a platform for underrepresented candidates and issues.

1. 1. 1. Timeline Table of Key Events

Glossary of Key Terms

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         Male radio host at Maui Neutral Zone broadcasting on KAKU 88.5 FM with professional sound equipment.

         Closing Note

This video transcript captures the launch of a community-focused political show that seeks to provide a balanced, respectful, and educational forum for discussing local Maui political and social issues. The interview with Nikhil Ananda highlights longstanding challenges and the Green Party’s role in proposing solutions rooted in progressive values. Despite technical difficulties, the show establishes itself as a promising platform for diverse voices and civic engagement in the Hawaiian Islands.

Transcript

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so what are we looking at this year in this political season there are people already talking about national people you can’t listen to a KAKU Shaggy does a really good job of bringing light to the please excuse me bringing light to the dark I am very hard pressed to stay neutral when it comes to the antics of our president and just the way he conducts himself so I’m gonna probably stay away from that but that’s a lot of conversation about a lot of people and we may have them on the show from time to time but we’re

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gonna be talking about things when we’re starting which I’m just giving you the parameters of the kind of direction we’re going because I have guests coming like Sam Kaeo who’s Hawaiian in fact he was arrested under the telescope on the highway going up to Haleakala and he has a lot to say and we have other Hawaiian guests with issues and things that relate in fact we’re gonna have a lot of people calling in and we’re gonna do a lot of calling out to mix it up in a way that’s a little bit different than

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typical format that you’ve seen I hear a lot of buzzing I don’t know if many of you hear it or out there we also are going to be bringing on some local people with music we’re gonna be bringing on local people with issues some of our guests are going to be leaders and already in organizations some are just going to be civilians in their opinions and we’re going to create a zone where people can talk about issues and many people may recall that over these last 14 or 15 election seasons I mean that’s a lot of year

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that’s 30 years I’ve been I guess political it’s called because I was running as a candidate in 92 4 & 6 as a Green Party candidate and many of the values that were expressed then and are still expressed by the Green Party are now embodied and enlivened in all the other parties and in people’s consciousness so before we were ahead of our time and really going in a direction ahead of what was and many ways that still exists with the Green Party in my opinion by the way this is a neutral zone that means we are

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keeping it neutral so we’re not here just cutting each other up but that isn’t that we don’t have opinions because it’s pretty hard not to have an opinion and stay neutral that’s for sure with all the issues that are going on I could start right in but I think it’s important to remember that we want to do this show we have people that again be in the field calling in and also okay I’m getting a sign so right now I’m seeing what we’re doing here okay why I’m going to be calling our guests here

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in a little bit but I just want to give you an idea I think it’s important for us to discuss what neutral means and I think that people when they’re calling in you know this really you know when I watch the internet and listen and see that people like to bash each other and that’s really not what I’m hoping to see happen here I’m really looking forward to conversation that talks about things and brings people on talking about the why behind their opinions so that we I can guess it’s called ho’oponopono isn’t

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it in where we all look at things openly and honestly and come to terms and come to balance and understanding of each other and ideas and that’s what this is zone is intended to be you would have been hearing some music right now because I was gonna take a breath but doesn’t seem that the sound is working we got a couple of ways to get it but next week we’ll have that done and I think that it’s important that we get input from people in the community so we are laying a format that’s going to be unique each

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time at 11 o’clock in the morning on Monday you know getting it between both ears about politics may or may not be what’s things so we’re gonna be taking it easy and taking issues and getting into this because we’re not only looking to be here in the election season we’re looking to be here as a forum to create conversation all the time and to develop a way that people can oh I guess you guys have heard me say that a few times so I think that’s really important obviously and might without my

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soundboard you don’t have prepared stuff but I do think it’s significant for us all of us you know I’m often trying not to be wordy and I don’t think you want my opinions as much as you’d like to see what’s going on in our community so I am I have a guest that I’ve known for a lot of years in 1992 and the Green Party got started Nikhil Ananda was one of four candidates I’m sorry I can’t understand what one of four candidates that the Green Party had here in Maui County and when that

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happened I stood up and I was in West Maui and I always found it interesting that the Republican told me afterwards that the votes that I got were the ones that would have won him the election and the next time when the election came and I thought you know we’re just greens we want to put our ideas our chances of winning which like David and Goliath I wasn’t looking to do that so I pulled papers and ran for mayor and then switched to a council race against a van local hero for many Wayne Nishiki and so

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and I had ideas out there and then I was living in South Maui and so again ran in South Maui as a green but I thought that I could do better by interviewing people and differently then choosing who I thought you should vote and only talking to people that I already wanted to support I took the tact of interviewing people so that you the viewer could make your own determination by getting up close and personal and getting a chance to speak with them and that was the route that I did take here we are many

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elections later and I’ve seen a lot of the same faces speaking about the same things or in many cases speaking around them there’s not a lot of consistency with any of the candidates that I saw over the years I must say as a general thing there are many more people that are prepared to take on this role on council or mayor than before although I mean I don’t see a lot of experience being brought into the role and I think many of us when we start discussing issues will see that you want to see change and you know you

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need something different and new in there or if you’re there and you want to defend who and what you have or you believe that the people that are there or right we’d like to hear from you also on that matter so that’s a very big point that that’s what’s gonna happen here now I have field correspondence and some of them are blue and some of them are green and some of them are pink and they hold kinds of issues and we’ll be talking about things that may be political by themselves and they may

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just be social issues like health and health care not only can we of course legislate answers but we have to change the fabric of our social consciousness and actions so we’ll be having that in here and we’ll be sharing in ways that talk about values and how that can be as important as the elections because the values of the people being expressed which many people think is only through the vote can also be through social programs and cooperating in a I don’t want to say unique way because it isn’t

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unique people know how to cooperate but we haven’t really seen it people are drinking up walls and clearly the climate that we’ve seen at a national level and on issues at state level don’t give us a good example I don’t have to tell you that when you go to Facebook if you don’t see a searing comment about something then you must be on the wrong page because there’s lots of really open and ripping comments not only about issues but about each other and I think we all can agree that’s not

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the kind of climate we’d like to have so we are approaching first break I am little hampered by not having a board with some sound but the original opening of this show this show is is a concept I watch a lot of ikkaku shows well where do i watch them I’m watching them on the net and I’m watching them on Facebook and then they’re radio shows and then well what if you have clips well that’s a television show so in this mixed-media world that we live in this is going to be a concept

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here at the neutral zone that brings in all kinds of things because if I have a clip of something happening out in the field that I want to show I’d like to show it on television and when I’m speaking to someone that wants to support their issue the of things they again will want to see that on television so we are going to be a gateway let’s listen to this I’m sure that’s a good way to start and see if you guys know this song I bet you do I think this is sometimes the description of where

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politics has been on this island welcome to the neutral zone let’s listen to Stevie Winwood and Eric Clapton this is a classic fact still is can’t find my way home [Music] [Music] [Music] the time [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] can’t find my way home quite a good season here for that all right we are a little disoriented today as you can see and here and if you can’t see you can hear but I think that I want to be able to give you input in the direction that

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this show is going to go I mean there are a lot of people now I mean with the Maui pono Network they’re doing interviews of candidates every week and they have a full slate and I know that they only have a full slate of the people and the issues that are important to them but there are a lot of other candidates and a lot of other viewpoints and I want to be able to give a forum for that so that’s really important in a couple of days the election candidate will be done the choice of who is

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running so it’s a very forward and forward thinking I think idea from the Maui pono Network to be jumping on it so early but there are some new people that are jumping into the race here at the last minute and some of the people we have on here they’re going to be on here because they are likely not gonna be on too many other places so we’re giving them that chance in that forum we hope that as we’re going here yet you understanding that we are forming something that is atypical and that is a

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non-competitive combative political show there are people in our community that are doing regular shows I’m sure many of you who are listening also watch out cuckoo and have seen Lucien Danai doing crossroads and Sam small and Maui causes now the Maui pono Network shows with Paul DeLaurier there are farming shows there are all kinds of things in our community for sure but we hope to be bringing up people and issues that are interesting and then from there being able to see where it goes because after a while

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listening and talking about politics can be kind of dry unless it relates to specific issues that we’re talking about and we have a couple of minutes till we take our station break here at ka k you 88.5 FM I’m Jason Schwartz and thank you for coming to be with us here and the neutral zone and when we come back I’m gonna make a call to candidate and to kill an on the Green Party candidate for a Statehouse position here in Hawaii thank you for joining us hi we’re the Goo Goo Dolls we’re fortunate that our

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you there I don’t I don’t hear him do you hear him I don’t know if he’s online I sure don’t hear him in the headphone [Music] wow this seems to be another techno glitch well this is it’s working okay well in a moment we’re going to talk to Nikhil Anandi Nikhil Anandi is a candidate on Maui for as a state House District and are you there Nick right are you there well this is an unusual hour of time okay Nick Peter we’re gonna call you again here five I guess he’s publicly under so

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we’re gonna have obviously our phone lines and written right boss nope you do not there we go you’re there now right well we heard him for a second I don’t know you there Nick nope you’re not their phones lying on everything is looping well I guess it must be the radio demons that are in there and the telephone that’s very unusual but we are using the system as should be it just seems to be looping things here so do we have our calling again so yeah I heard that he’s calling me on the other line

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[Music] anyway eight seven three three four three three that’s very unusual combination you there Nick not there well we’re in the studio and we can surely hear me but we can’t hear our person on the phone okay obviously we’re gonna have to schedule him another time Wow well I I found that pretty strange we’re gonna see if we try that again obviously I am not really prepared to I can talk to you and tell you my opinions on issues but I think maybe I should just give you some

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statistics and things to whet your appetite so that you can tell me who you’d like to see here or he would like to have conversation with to help make things different do you own a home here on Maui try us again can you hear me Jason now I hear ya you there Nick can you hear us Nick Wow I don’t you there well it’s a very unusual combination because if if I’m not speaking alone why isn’t that’s a very funny there’s a delay loop somehow in our system anyway this is obviously not as smooth and

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opening as we had in mind I’m sure you can imagine that and we were gonna be talking to the keel and on to who’s running for a Statehouse Green Party and it appears the Green Party has a number of candidates and that’s very significant here in Maui County I mean I think everyone everyone will have a a green on their ballot choices here in the fall in the primary unless you pull a Green Party ballot in the primary and every candidate needs to get at least one vote so I’m sure that they’re gonna

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be people pulling green ballot in the primary but there are values and these people many of them are very upstanding and active in our community and I think it’s a really major step that people are chosen the Green Party as their party of choice in years past myself included I didn’t have people to talk to and unless I was in a Republican or a Democrat Party that’s another day when we say you look at someone who’s in the Democrat Party and then they’re in the Republican Party and they’re in the Green Party and

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then there are no party and then they’re back and forth where there’s a call coming in we’ll see how that’s going okay maybe hello hello follower you can anyone hear me I heard you there is this is Nikhil Ananda Wow hi are you there Nick hello Nicky you’re on the air are you hello I’m not sure I don’t know like I say it very funny it call cannot be answered very unusual well you got to go with what is I guess huh yeah all right I mean that’s the kind of thing that happens and you just

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got to kind of think that that’s what we got to go with he’s calling on the other line I don’t think that’s the crazy let’s see yeah let’s see what happens here I’m gonna put him on speaker you’re on speaker on the air with me are you there Nick okay we’re on the air right now Nick so thank you well this is as close we had to having you on the air let’s see if we can get you again okay call again no no no we got an it’s not working for some reason we’ll have to do this again but I want

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to give you a chance to say hello to our audience and know I let people know what you’re running for and I want to give you an eye on please do we’re I’m holding you up to the mic as we speak yes we are my friend hello okay yes so thank you for joining us go ahead Nate now that part we got what race are you running for my friend [Music] [Music] okay thank you for that oh we know that in these times you are not a new candidate but I many of our viewers may or may not have heard some of the things

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that make you feel that you need to run because obviously you’re running against the candidate that is in office now what would you like to think your reasons that people ought to think about voting for you on with people who have donated to their campaign to get the media coverage so it’s really hard two years ago you so Kelly King was able to be a donor bull incumbent but generally it’s really hard so had a historical thing with the governor’s race couple of 40 years ago when a incumbent was beaten in the

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primary so here’s an incumbent it is vulnerable which is a ring then there’s a possibility so as soon as somebody is appointed in this case my house rep was appointed on the death of arm of Nellie general and then two years ago she ran for the first time bring up some blames you mentioned the Green Party because there’s a whole bunch of issues oh okay all right there’s something new to me we’re not supposed to be talking politics so that means that’s new to me I think we talk about issues so if

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someone’s now defining what neutral zone me neutral means that I am pushing in the gear pedal and I’m not ramrodding over my guests but they obviously have opinions but he’s right we don’t have to talk about politics like that but we talk about the issues that are important to you but you’re right Nick thank you for pointing that out we’ll find out what we should be speaking about but I thought what you were talking about was relevant but I want to get specific into you and the

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kind of values and things that to me that’s what I’m hoping to share is like so you have a lady that you haven’t mentioned by name but I’m mention her by name her name is Lynn and no matter what she is as a person very personable I find but we want to see where and how you’re running again obviously for a reason so there’s something that’s been very important for you that is making you want to run here again against there what’s that against anybody two years ago that way I

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can’t pain to the past when I stood for the county council in the Maui the same way there are issues that I want to bring up that are not being brought up campaign finance reform is not talked about at all changing the way we elect our representatives has not changed at all in two years we’re gonna have a census and we’re going to have a redistricting well do you know the senator state senator from Lahaina and key a when she first ran and won for the State House her district included

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Molokai lanai and Mahina it’s time that we it is unfair that we have Molokai lanai and East Maui these rural areas left stuff together in one district and I don’t want to make this a discussion on that but as an example Molokai could be connected with Baca Kahlo and Happy Valley and Lahaina and Linda Lee now is more of a resort these kinds of things that you’re talking about to me are administrative things and you want changes in districting and things that don’t necessarily mean you

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need to sit in that political seat to accomplish these things so I’m really trying to discover what differences you say you’re not running against anyone what are you running for maybe by showing what you’re running for with us we’ll be able to see the difference but I know I would think that you are running against someone you’ve been running a long time and you have been a very outspoken leader for these political issues you speak and you’re right they need to be spoken but when it

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comes down to voting and it comes down to that it is the difference in the way you vote and the way that your opponent or opponent vote and where their values are as they’re opposed to you and so that’s what I’m hoping you’ll share with us so someone could say yeah Nick Nick doesn’t like GMOs and he’s gonna be out there and if I know that something’s happening he’s gonna defend against these issues that I find important so that’s what I’m wanting you to share with us so Nick you

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there it seems to make you appreciative of how I respond the issues I just mentioned are important to me you mentioned GMOs I did not it’s one issue but yes the current incumbent is the general farmers support the poisoning of our land with which restricted use pesticides that’s a major issue when we had me initiative many years ago I was a staunch supporter of the malli issue of the initiative I want to correct something you said which isn’t accurate it makes a difference if you said on the

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board we had the community overwhelmingly supported the GMO initiative but the people sitting on the council and the mayor went against us and eventually we lost in court so it makes a difference it’s on the board the water issue eat Maui the incumbent was wishy-washy on releasing water back into the East Maui stream I was at a meeting where I shoulders speak and not being clear is what decision she would take and I’ve been a staunch advocate for years about releasing the water to the East Maui streams our farmers they

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cannot farm their cultural practices are not protected so there’s a lotta issues and really has a Green Party member we live on four pillars of grassroots democracy non-violence social justice and ecologic a wisdom people know when I say I’m agreeing when I stand for if you say you’re a Republican or a Democrat after the Democrats of this state would be Republicans on the mainland so you don’t know where people stand the Democrat Party just recently elected a long term lobbyist as their new state

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chair that says a lot about the party so what I bring out and like you said I do want to mention the other green this year we have more attendings for the state than we’ve ever had in our history being on to the formation as you mentioned earlier in 1992 so Jan Mathur is running for the tenth State House District over on the west side and North GA Melissa shishito is running for the state Senate seat which covers West Valley and South Maui we have Jim brewer and Renee ink who are standing for

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governor lieutenant governor and in the first congressional district Zachary Byrd is running for Congress and then myself that six state seat took the Green Party and that’s one thing that I’m unhappy with seeing is that all these years I’ve offered the progressive environmental community who want to break away from the to corporate control political parties which pretty well Tweedledee and Tweedledum and tweedledumber boosting as they green control of public education for example I’ve been a substitute teacher and I

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taught her to college and I taught a job core and I’d like to see we’re the only state that has a central education system it just does not anyone you talk to an education will tell you how hard it is to get anybody’s board through because of the bureaucracy the top-heavy dropsy and we don’t know where the money’s spent two billion dollars over two billion dollars it’s been on education and where does it go speaking of Education I have a lot of education I have a bachelor’s

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degree in political science advanced degree in law and urban affairs I have a real estate license I have facilitation certificate I have a mediation of the mediator for many years my substitute teacher certificate so education today isn’t that one of the most sad things that we could say after 26 years the issues that we considered important then are still not addressed and yet we’re still seeing the same faces so I’m hoping personally that that message is really clear and the issues that we’re

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still bringing up for 26 years somehow are we just moving chairs around on the deck of the Titanic we have people on council that thought they need to leave being on counsel at the table and run for mayor because what is it about being a mayor that’s different than being on council that kind of discussion and things like that or when you’re dealing at a state level do you feel that when you get into your seat you’ll be able to specifically bring any measures forward anything that you have in mind that well

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you see we’re not sure we want to endorse you even though they said I was brilliant in my answers to my question air and all the issues that I spoke about because they have to work with the incumbent the goal situation we have politically everybody’s so well know we can’t really spend a lot principles which I have as you said and I appreciate that for over these years so yes I would find the different representatives for example the most environmental representative out of fifty one happens to be one of

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the five Republicans so you would find the people that you could work with and I would the only way you know I’m able to do it is by giving me a chance and that’s when I go through it for many years let’s see if it doesn’t work you know we have an electoral system in two years you can you get rid of me if I’m not if I’m not able to bring to the community and we have like I said we have the most diverse district in the state Molokai has special issues with not a is an island only by one person has special

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issues Hana is different than pi Mia I eat is different than my COO so all of these issues are important so yeah we can only would only known by seeing giving an opportunity to attempt to make these progressive and social justice issues you know something else haven’t even touched on this prison reform we have hundreds of people from Hawaii in prison on the mainland that needs to stop yesterday and I’m very strong with with a prison reform of course now with 1992 when we brought up marijuana people

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stick with you hippies are weird to legalize it now you have mainstream elected officials all over this country and six states that have legalized we’re grateful marijuana to take it out of the black market so there’s numerous issues we can spend the whole show just discussing well and that’s why I brought you on because you’re a fountain of ideas and I am hoping that our viewers are listening with that open here because what you say holds a lot of truth and that’s what we hope we’re

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doing here is giving people a chance to hear you not really directing our questions to try to trip you up but I think it’s really important for you if you were to sum up your reason that you believe that you would be running you chose State House District because why did you feel you’d be better and more focused in a state level than here would be done you have issues oriented for example we have a mayor he’s running as lieutenant governor you can’t win that area R is now 20 years at my properties

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away low 26 to 28 years so you also have a good understanding and you’re open to hearing people’s opinions and working on their behalf okay we have a couple of minutes left there Nick by the way your points what I am very impressed with as we’re speaking is there is no shortage of important issues that you’re not only aware of but that you speak very well about and I wish you the very best here in this season you haven’t been here in the studio so you really aren’t getting

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the full advantage of what we’re doing here this has been a very awkward show and I apologize like only a talk show it was an interview show it was just me in the phone and the crawlers and so yes that’s another thing I pride myself on a lot of Education a lot of research and being able to articulate the issues and critical thinking which I think puts me way ahead of the current well let’s have you please tell us your niki owen aanda and you’re in district yeah okay well we already told us where it is and so it’s

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the people that are voting in the district number okay we only have Nick we only have 30 seconds for the whole show so I’m gonna thank you thank you for joining us we’re gonna have you got again Nick thank you and thank all of you for being here with me on the neutral zone next time you’ll find it might run a little smoother but this is Jason Schwartz here with you looking which button to hit to be able to put on the sound I don’t see it so we are out and thank you for joining us on the

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