Adrianna Grace. – Chemo Cafe # 14 2010

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Adrianna Grace – Chemo Cafe – week # 14 —12-10-2010  Jason Schwartz hosts yet another Chemo cafe, whose co-host Adrianna Grace, has been undergoing chemotherapy treatment for many weeks after having been diagnosed with Advanced Ovarian Cancer. Adrianna has graciously allowed us all into her private life at a sensitive time and has been adding insight and inspiration in her journey back toward ideal health. REVEAL – an unveiling of her new queenly crown

Summary & Transcript Below…

  •   [00:01] Introduction and Context
    This segment opens with a warm welcome to the audience for another episode of Chemo Café, dated around December 10-12, 2010. The host introduces Adrianna, the co-host, who is undergoing chemotherapy for ovarian cancer. The tone is intimate and supportive, acknowledging the ongoing journey of treatment and the shared connection with viewers. It establishes the purpose of the series as a candid and uplifting window into Adrianna’s life as she battles late-stage ovarian cancer.
  • [01:11] Adrianna’s Personal Reflection on Her Journey
    Adrianna expresses gratitude to her audience for their support and explains the intent behind Chemo Café: to provide a lighthearted yet educational insight into living as a cancer survivor in progress. Despite the late-stage diagnosis, she feels she has turned her situation around but must continue chemotherapy to ensure complete remission. She candidly shares the emotional complexity of her experience, including fear, anger, sadness, grief, helplessness, and rage. This segment highlights the mental and emotional processing required during cancer treatment and sets the tone for honest sharing.
  • [02:50] Medical Challenges and Emergency Room Visit
    Adrianna recounts a recent health scare related to a medication designed to boost her white blood cell count, necessary for maintaining immunity during chemotherapy. She experienced palpitations, chest and spine pain, and tightness, prompting a visit to the emergency room. Although no heart attack or stroke was detected, she was referred to a cardiologist for further observation. This episode underscores the physical side effects and complications that can arise during cancer treatment, reinforcing the unpredictable nature of the journey.
  • [04:09] Voice Changes and Personal Humor
    There is a brief lighter moment discussing Adrianna’s altered voice, which has become different due to her illness and treatment. The conversation humorously contrasts her current voice to that of celebrities, reflecting her efforts to maintain personality and spirit despite physical changes. This adds a humanizing and relatable layer to her narrative, showing resilience through humor.
  •   [05:08] Mental Health and Antidepressant Treatment
    Adrianna reveals that her primary care doctor diagnosed her with depression, a common companion to chronic illness and chemotherapy. She has been prescribed a mild antidepressant, Wellbutrin, to help combat feelings of sadness, lack of motivation, and malaise. She shares the impact of depression on her daily life, including difficulty with routine tasks and a general sense of exhaustion. This segment sheds light on the psychological toll of cancer treatment and the importance of addressing mental health alongside physical health.
  • [06:04] Need for Support and Assistance
    Adrianna emphasizes her growing need for help as her energy wanes. She discusses her “angel team” of supporters who have aided her recently but acknowledges that she needs to reach out again for ongoing assistance. She plans to send a letter to those who have offered help and invites others to get involved, whether remotely or locally on Maui. This call for support reflects the necessity of community and practical help during prolonged illness.
  • [07:01] Specific Requests for Volunteer Help
    She outlines detailed areas where she needs assistance: managing correspondence and emails, light secretarial tasks, bookkeeping, video recording for the weekly Chemo Café episodes, and web-savvy help to distribute content via Facebook and email. Additionally, she seeks a volunteer coordinator to organize helpers and maintain scheduling. This section reveals the logistical challenges of maintaining personal projects and communication during treatment and the proactive steps Adrianna is taking to stay connected.
  • [08:19] Health Routine Challenges and Nutrition
    Adrianna admits difficulty maintaining her health routines, such as consuming wheatgrass and green juices, which are vital for her wellness. Fatigue and lack of motivation hinder her consistency, and she recognizes that additional support is essential in these areas. This candid admission highlights the struggle cancer patients face in adhering to health regimens amid treatment side effects.
  • [09:18] Ongoing Support Needs: Meals, Finances, and Emotional Care
    She requests help with meal preparation and delivery, coordinated by Caress Newport, who understands her dietary needs. Financial advice and support are critical, as Adrianna faces irregular income and mounting expenses. She discusses a fundraising initiative involving small donations that could amplify support through a commission-based program, encouraging community contribution. This segment covers the multifaceted nature of support required—nutrition, finances, and community involvement.
  • [10:37] Additional Needs: Transcription, Household Help, Nurturing
    Adrianna seeks transcription assistance to convert audio recordings into written content for future books and articles. Household help, rides, and nurturing care such as massage, Reiki, or chiropractic work are also requested to provide comfort and physical relief. She expresses a desire for nurturing akin to maternal care, sharing emotional vulnerabilities linked to her mother’s recent passing. This emphasizes the holistic nature of care beyond medical treatment—addressing emotional and physical nurturing.
  • [11:30] Grieving the Loss of Her Mother
    Adrianna opens up about the recent death of her mother, who passed peacefully at age 91 after a decline over six months. The grief is palpable, with lingering feelings of loss and moments of unexpected tears. She shares cherished memories and the void left by her mother’s absence, balanced by a closer relationship with her sister who is managing much of the estate and affairs. This segment poignantly illustrates the intersection of personal loss and ongoing health challenges.
  • [12:53] Financial Strain and Commitment to Serving Others
    The absence of inheritance and reduced financial support exacerbate Adrianna’s financial pressures. She reiterates the need for monetary assistance and promises to continue serving others when possible. This reinforces her identity as a giver, now learning to accept help, and her commitment to using her experiences to benefit others.
  • [13:23] Healing and Therapeutic Support
    She emphasizes the importance of regular healing treatments to maintain physical and emotional well-being, including massage, Reiki, and chiropractic care. This acknowledges the role of complementary therapies in cancer recovery and symptom management.
  • [13:51] Summary of Health Status and Ongoing Needs
    Jason, the co-host, summarizes Adrianna’s health as fragile, noting her tiredness and the necessity of outside help to maintain connections with loved ones and manage financial burdens. The fundraising mechanism involving $25 contributions potentially generating larger support is reiterated as a key initiative.
  • [14:48] Invitation for Community Engagement and Emotional Support
    Adrianna is asked what would bring her peace of mind during this sensitive period. She expresses a desire for nurturing, hugs, and emotional support, alongside financial relief. She emphasizes minimizing stress and welcomes any form of help, reinforcing the community’s role in her healing process.
  • [16:10] Continued Desire to Help Others Despite Limitations
    Despite her current health limitations and reduced capacity to work, Adrianna maintains her identity as a healer and counselor, offering to help others within her means. She shares a desire to resume more active healing work when able, demonstrating resilience and purpose beyond her illness.
  • [17:05] Communication and Accessibility for Audience
    Plans to improve accessibility of Chemo Café episodes to the audience are discussed, including sending email notifications to subscribers to ensure easy access to new content. This reflects a commitment to maintaining community connection and transparency.
  • [17:27] Reflections on Physical Appearance and Identity
    Adrianna reflects on the dramatic changes in her appearance due to chemotherapy, including hair loss (head, eyebrows, eyelashes) and its impact on her sense of self and social interactions. She acknowledges the challenge to her ego but also embraces a deeper sense of being beyond physical appearance.
  • [18:44] Head Shaving and Spiritual Connection
    She describes the decision to fully shave her head, relating it to ancient spiritual practices symbolizing ego release and enlightenment. Adrianna shares that this has led to enhanced meditation experiences and a paradoxical blend of despair and spiritual connection. This segment conveys acceptance and meaning found within the cancer journey.
  • [19:13] Holiday Wishes and Life Appreciation
    Adrianna offers heartfelt holiday greetings, emphasizing the gift of life itself and encouraging viewers to embrace presence, gratitude, and connection. She acknowledges the difficulty of maintaining optimism but encourages focusing on what makes life fulfilling.
  • [20:04] Commitment to Emotional and Psychological Health
    She commits to engaging in activities that bring joy and vitality, recognizing the importance of managing mental health. This serves as encouragement for others facing similar challenges to seek balance and moments of happiness.
  • [20:32] Encouragement to Appreciate and Communicate Gratitude
    Adrianna highlights the power of expressing appreciation to others, noting how it fosters mutual well-being. This insight underscores the importance of emotional reciprocity in healing and human connection.
  • [21:04] Gratitude for Support and Community
    Jason and Adrianna exchange acknowledgments of support, with heartfelt appreciation for the time, energy, and professionalism invested in the Chemo Café. This affirms the collaborative nature of the project and the meaningful relationships formed.
  • [21:59] Financial Goals and Practical Needs
    Adrianna shares her financial goal of approximately $3,000 per month to cover basic living expenses. She expresses a desire for stability without extravagance, emphasizing the relief that consistent support would bring during this challenging time.
  • [22:24] Invitation for Reciprocal Support and Connection
    She encourages community members to reach out in whatever way they can while also offering her help and healing abilities in return. This mutual exchange highlights the importance of connection and shared caregiving.
  • [22:47] Personal Appearance Reveal and Acceptance
    Adrianna prepares to reveal her natural appearance without hair, sharing mixed emotions about seeing herself differently in the mirror. She reflects on the duality of fear and pride, self-love, and the inherent beauty of human existence.
  • [23:16] Head Shaving as Spiritual Practice and Final Thoughts
    The act of shaving her head is presented as a profound spiritual experience that enhances meditation and connection with the divine. Despite the challenges and emotional lows, she embraces this paradoxical state of enlightenment and despair.
  • [24:13] Closing Blessings and Farewell
    The episode concludes with Adrianna sending blessings, holiday wishes, and love to the audience. The closing “Aloha” reinforces the warm, community-centered spirit of the Chemo Café and the ongoing journey of healing and hope.

Overall Summary:
This Chemo Café episode offers a deeply personal and multifaceted portrayal of Adrianna’s experience with ovarian cancer and chemotherapy. It covers her physical health challenges, emotional struggles including depression and grief, and the vital role of community and practical support in her healing journey. Adrianna’s candid reflections on appearance, spirituality, and life’s meaning provide inspiration and encouragement to others facing similar battles. The episode also serves as a call to action for volunteers and donors, while emphasizing the reciprocal nature of care and connection. Through vulnerability, humor, and grace, Adrianna invites viewers to witness the realities of cancer survivorship and the power of resilience and love.

00:01

Aloha! Welcome to another Chemo Café. Here we are, what’s today, December 12th? It’s around there, it’s the 10th. December 10th, 11th, 12th of 2010. I’m here with the beautiful, the lovely Adrianna, our co-hostess, not by choice, but by default, of the Chemo Café. We have been doing these so long, I think we started to blur on what number we’re up to.

00:28

The point is we’re still here and all of us still love and adore you and want to be here and support you in your challenge. You’ve now been numbers of weeks in chemotherapy for ovarian cancer.

00:44

and you’re doing better, but it’s a tough thing to judge. You’re going to share with our audience what’s been going on, because it seems that this ride is not just a straight ride that’s going to get better. Like you said, yesterday you spent time in ER? Yeah, I’ll talk about that. You don’t have to talk about it now. Okay. What do you want to talk about?

01:11

Well, first of all, I want to say hi and thanks for tuning in. And it means a lot to me to have people watching and interested in what’s going on with me. I started these chemo cafes as kind of a lighthearted, educational, inspirational, and fun kind of window into my life being a, you know, future survivor of the ovarian cancer. Even though I was given a late stage diagnosis, I feel like I’ve been able to

01:41

turn it around mostly, but I’ve got to go through this chemo to make sure it’s all out of my system. In the meantime, you know, it’s really challenging and I’m counting my blessings and there’s an amazing amount of

01:57

support both spiritually and friendship and people who are caring about me and my job right now is instead of to be what i like to be which is out there and a giver and having fun and you know doing service and contributing um my situation is forcing me to be a receiver i’m learning how to be a good receiver um

02:24

Right now, I just have so much internally going on that there’s a lot of processing going on. And I’ve got everything going, fear, anger, sadness, grief, sometimes helplessness, rage, you know. So it’s definitely going on. So what Jason was saying was…

02:50

It’s not like I got carted into the emergency room yesterday by an ambulance, but I did have some side effects from one of the medications that I’m taking. And this particular medication is to boost my white blood cells through stimulating the bone marrow to release new cells, which up the fighter cells that are important to keep immunity high. And down at a certain level,

03:17

They won’t give me my chemotherapy until I get them back up. So I was given these shots every day. And what happened was my heart started beating faster and stronger a couple of nights ago. And I could feel it all through my spine and my chest. And there was like a radiating tightness and pain that would go with the beats of my heart. And then it would just stop and be normal for a while. But when I sat or moved or laid down, it was still there.

03:45

And then it was there in the morning. So I went in to just get looked at by the emergency room, make sure it wasn’t a heart attack or a stroke getting ready to happen. And it wasn’t, but they referred me to a cardiologist. They were going to keep me overnight for observation, but I didn’t think I needed that. What about that sexy little voice you have? It has that little…

04:09

thing in it. Have you noticed? Everybody’s talking about it because I don’t sound like me. Well, that’s right. I’m supposed to do my acting and my singing now so that I, you know, kind of enhances my character. I’ll have to look at doing that. That’s right. You’ll be doing the Peggy Lee thing soon. Oh, God. Well, I’d like to think more like Demi Moore than Peggy Lee. Oh, yeah. Does Demi Moore have that kind of voice, too? She’s

04:38

Oh, I like that image better myself. Yeah, definitely. So gosh. So you’ve been… Do you spend most of your time still going to Temple of Peace and the spa there and such? I do, though not as often. I’ve been tired lately, and I’ve been… My primary care physician, Mia Carson in Mockwell, when she did a thorough workup on me, she felt like I was depressed.

05:08

and that that’s part of what goes along with this illness and with the chemotherapy. And so what she’s recommended is a few different things, but including a mild antidepressant called Wilbutrin. So I wouldn’t do it normally, but, you know, I don’t even feel like getting up and, you know, making food or, you know, tossing the dishes in the sink afterwards but not doing them. I’ll wash my clothes but not put them away.

05:35

So there’s just a general sense of sadness and a lack of motivation. Kind of a malaise, I guess they call it. So we’re trying to shift that around. And there’s lots of other really good things that I’m doing, too, when I have the juice to actually do them. And I’m needing more help. And my angel team of supporters who’ve come in and worked with me, I’ve kind of…

06:04

Let that go over the past month or so, because I had friends in from out of town helping. But really, once they were gone, I still needed the help, and I haven’t put it out there. So I’m going to do that. I’m going to send out an angel team letter for the people that have already expressed a desire to help. If you want to be involved at all, I’d love it. Whether you’re remote, far away, or whether you’re close in here on Maui, you can always call me or email me.

06:34

And Jason will put the numbers up, but it’s Adriannagrace at gmail.com or 68. And there’s some 808-870-8168. And there’s some specific things that I am looking for that I guess I can read. One of the things I’m really looking for is somebody to help with my correspondence. I get all these calls and emails, and I love it.

07:01

But I’m often too tired or not motivated enough or just feeling down and introverted or something. I just don’t always return calls, even from my closest friends. I’ve got all this backup of email correspondence, so I’m looking for somebody who can help me process through that.

07:21

And just do some light secretarial work. Somebody that’s good with bookkeeping would be great. But just to kind of go through stuff with me and help me just move things forward because things tend to get in a backlog. And then I feel even worse because I’m not doing the things that I say I’m going to do and that I should do. Some video help would be great. Jason has been wonderful and a saint coming and helping me and interviewing with me on this weekly basis.

07:50

So anybody who’s got a camera who wouldn’t mind taking about an hour of their time once a week, that would be really supportive. Also, I’m looking for somebody that’s web savvy so that we can get these chemo cafes out to everybody on my Facebook, do the constant contact, you know, put it out there and have it wind up right in people’s inboxes so that they know that there’s a new chemo cafe or if I have something else that I need.

08:19

So, you know, I need a volunteer coordinator also, somebody who can kind of keep the framework of the kind of things that I need help with and the people that are interested in doing it and just plugging them into the schedule. But what will end up happening is it’ll be the morning and I can do some things, but I just don’t want to do everything. And I’m supposed to be on this wheatgrass and all these green juices. I just don’t get to it. And it’s one of the most vital parts of my

08:49

health routine. And I feel bad that I’m not doing it because I’m committed to doing everything that I can to help myself to thrive now and then to really, once I’m in remission, to really be cancer-free for a lifetime. And it takes some work, so I just need some support now for the next few months while I’m still undergoing my chemotherapy until March. And then from there we’ll see, but I should be fine.

09:18

So even if people can help for a month or two. I need things like meal preparation and they could just do it at their house and then deliver it. Caress Newport is in charge of that and she’s at 572-1672 and she’s great. She knows all the things I can eat and what I can’t and the things that would be best. I could use a financial advisor right now because

09:48

Not only do I have all these expenses, but money comes in in drips and drabs, but there’s a bigger picture of what I need. Jason will be talking about how you all can help contribute and for $25 of you just sending it in.

10:07

There’s a potential for me to get a nice kickback from the company, and we’ll make it real easy for you, and it’s no risk or anything like that. Or just send $25 anyway, everybody. That would be great. Donations, nothing’s too small, and nothing’s too large. I’ll take millions, folks. Yeah. I’ve got things I can do with it, believe me. And once I get well, and even now, I want to help people. Well, you do that all the time.

10:37

All the time, even now? In my own way, I guess I do. But I want to help more. Oh, I need help with transcription because now I’ve been audio recording things that will be content for books and articles and things like that, and I need somebody who can just take it off of the computer and just type it out for me. So besides meal prep, household help, somebody to help me clean,

11:07

Maybe some rides, some nurturing would be really great. Kind of like a mom, you know, come over and just fluff my pillows and see if I want some tea or my foot rubbed or read me a story. I tell you, I’ve got some inner child issues right now too. For those of you who have been following it, my dear mom passed away.

11:30

She had been very sick for a couple months, and she lived till 91, and she’d been doing great until she was 90. But then, you know, she just went through a decline period over six months, and so she finally passed away. After a week of being kind of numb to it, you know, the feelings are bleeding through now. So, you know, touch very lightly and you’ll get tears out of me, you know, for no apparent reason.

11:58

I ain’t touching. I’m not going to touch you lightly. But I know that, and you know, that you’d much rather have your mom at peace than in struggle. All that, yeah, but that’s the philosophical why I know it’s a good thing that she’s not in pain anymore or whatever. That doesn’t touch it. I miss her. I miss not being able to call her. I miss her kind of whiny nasal voice.

12:26

I miss, you know, her hand touching mine. You know, there’s just things, you know, I used to take her shopping when I was over there in Florida, and just ways that I can’t do then anymore. On the upside, I’ve gotten even closer with my sister, who’s handling a lot. But mom didn’t leave us a lot in the estate either, so almost nothing, and it’s all got to go to fixing up the condo and selling it.

12:53

Um, so the financial advisor help is great, and any financial help right now is. I had a major supporter that was kicking in at least enough for my rent, and he had to back down. So, um, you know, monthly support or, you know, periodic donations is great, and, you know, I gotta be a good receiver right now, but I promise to make sure I do service to others, uh, and use my life in an appropriate way. That’s gonna…

13:23

you know, glorify, glorify it all. So that’s really it. The other, and just the last thing I really need is healing work. You know, anybody that does massage or Reiki or, you know, anything like that, great chiropractic or, you know, just so I get kind of touched and cared for on a regular basis too. So, I know Jason. So it’s been…

13:51

pretty well, watching your health, taking care of your health, you’ve been tired. You try to do good things, but you need help. After a while, it kind of, you get into your own world of healing yourself, but you need some good outside influence and some help in keeping in touch with all the people that are reaching out and trying to love you.

14:13

And financial help, which, like you said, we have a program that can take $25, and it’s not any magic. It’s a commission thing that we’re working out that’ll turn into $500 each time. So it’s a way of you guys helping a lot.

14:31

You don’t need a basic analysis. You contact me easily, you know, through the email to her or whatever. And Jason will explain everything. I’ll explain it and just do it. It’s not a big deal at all. So we’ll put your contact information up on the screen. Yeah. As well.

14:48

In general, is there anything that you could use that would just give you just a calm peace of mind? Because like you say, you’re a little bit sensitive now. It’s been a period of transition after your mom was leaving, so you could use some nurturing and stuff. Anything that any of these guys could do for you right now that would just put a big smile on your face?

15:13

Well, I honestly don’t really know. I don’t have something definitely in mind. I mean, I need lots of hugs and care. The financial aid would really give me a pressure because now I’m like living under pressure and it’s just what I didn’t want to do at this time. I have to minimize my stress. And so, you know, I’m just feeling just tireder and more under it.

15:40

You know, just any way you can help is going to make me feel better. So whatever it is, just call and email and let me know what you can do. But I want to help you too, so let me know what I can do to help you. I’m still a natural networker, and I’ve been a healer and a counselor for a long time. And even though I’m really not doing my work right now, my healing work, you know, I still have some counseling abilities. And…

16:10

I’ve had to be off work due to my health, but I’m doing a little, you know, trying to take on a few consulting type things. Just make ends meet. Okay. Do you have anything you’d like to read to us? Have you been doing any kind of writings? Um, yeah, but I didn’t bring it, so I gotta do it next time. Okay. Well, you know, I know that, um,

16:36

This is a good thing for everyone out there because they want to see how you’re doing. And I know that everyone appreciates it every time they see one of these. And we’ll try to get it coming to your email box. You’ll know about it so you don’t kind of have to search for it. But we’re going to get that. Chemo Cafe is up there and available to you. In fact, if you will contact us, we’ll even put you on a little list to be sure that every time we do one,

17:05

We’ll send you an email to let you know it’s happening, and that’ll make it even easier. That’d be nice. Yeah, right? Oh, gosh. I think we’re about there. What do you think? Yeah, I just noticed that what’s going on for me about my appearance is that it’s so different.

17:27

now than when I was just normal before, that people aren’t recognizing me in the post office, in the bank or whatever, and then they will, and they’re like, oh, hi, are you okay? It feels good to connect with people, and it isn’t really so much my ego, but the appearance thing definitely works on my ego to just…

17:55

bypass that and just be the being that I am and that’s part of the beauty of this process has just been truly being and Learning how to be with everything that’s going on and be with others But I mean now that my hair loss is all the way I’m losing my eyebrows. I’m losing my eyelashes. I’ve got really not hair

18:21

My hands are, you know, legs and arms and stuff. So it’s pretty much everywhere. Use your imagination. It’s pretty much everywhere I don’t have hair. So it’s a trip. And I guess I’m bringing that up because you can’t help but see it. And I was thinking about showing everybody what my face and head actually looks like without…

18:44

So I think I’m ready to do that now. So I’m just going to take it off so you can see. I’ll kind of end there and just, you know, blessings and, you know, everybody have a wonderful holiday season and know that the best and greatest gift about life is just the appreciation of life itself. And that, you know, while we’re here, you know, the kind of cliche expressions of, you know, enjoy the ride and live life to the fullest and all that.

19:13

You know, there is a triteness to it, but from where I am at this place, I kind of have to work to do that because my condition is such that it’s with me all the time, and so I’m either kind of feeling low or going for healing treatments and this and that and being more of a patient type than just a person.

19:39

one of the things i’m committed to also now that my pneumonia is gone and i have my energy back is to start doing good outdoor things and remember you know what makes life delicious what makes life wonderful what are the things that contribute value where i feel you know alive and happy and free

20:04

And there are things that do. So I know that I need to manage my emotional and psychological health with that. And I believe everybody does. So I just want to give you a little encouragement to, not just in that trite way of counting the blessings, but to just open up and to breathe and to look around and realize that being here is a gift and, you know, it’s a relatively short time. So really, um,

20:32

open up to all the good that’s here and really let yourself receive it and really let other people know that you appreciate things when you do appreciate them because there’s nothing like hearing that from another person to make them feel good. So I think it’s important. Well, I appreciate you and I appreciate how much energy you’re putting out. I know that

21:04

spending time with us at all while you’re going through stuff is a gift to all of us. And we love you. And I’m here to help. Period. I don’t have any kind of governor. So as much as you need, you guys can help. And I can help. Well, you are. Thank you so much, Jason, for your steadfast loyalty and coming here every…

21:30

And that, you know, filming is able to happen and give your heart and soul to it and your professionalism and, you know, I know how highly qualified you are. So this is just a small part of what Jason does. So you ought to look at his website sometime to see what kind of talent we’re in the presence of here. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, now with that financial thing that we hope to kick in, you guys do, it’s going to mean a difference so that you can take that pressure off.

21:59

I’d like to take a deep breath and not have to worry about money for the next six months. But even month to month, if I had enough, it would be fine. But it would be nice to just know I’m not looking to lead a lavish life. I just want to get somewhere around $3,000 a month coming in just to cover my rent and food and expenses and things like that. More is appreciated. Less is appreciated as well.

22:24

So that’s all. Well, if these guys will reach out in a little way, they’re going to find that I’m going to reach back here. Yeah, that sounds really great. So I think we’re done. Thank you for being here. You’re welcome. How about a kiss? So what I want to do is just kind of do the reveal and just, you know, let you know that lately when I look in the mirror, I look more like my

22:47

father, you know, in middle age than my, you know, glamorous mother in the prime of her life or something like that. It kind of scares me to look in the mirror sometimes and other times. I’m proud of what I see. And the truth is, I guess, you know, where there’s self-love and self-esteem, you know, there is so much beauty to the human existence. So I’m just going to take it off. Okay.

23:16

give you a chance to see what I look like, au naturel, in other words. So this is really wonderful to feel the light in the top of my head. And people in ancient days, you know, did shave their head and still do as a way of becoming closer to God, releasing the ego and letting the light come all the way through so I can honestly say that I’ve had better

23:43

and more clear meditations and feelings of spiritual connection. So it’s funny, the paradoxes that are going on, but at the same time as there’s difficulty and sometimes depression and despair, there’s also that sense of connection and enlightenment and at-one-ment with everything. So that’s about it. I wish you all again a happy holiday. Namaste.

24:13

And much love to you. Aloha. We’ll see you again. Aloha.

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