Airielle’s World. Airielle Pearson & Dr Julie Holmes- In 1995, Naturopathic doctors were few and far between. Airielle shares time with Naturopath and Homeopathic and herb Doctor, Julie Holmes.
Summary & Transcript
This video transcript features an insightful conversation between Ariel from the Maui Arts and Music Association (MAMA) and Dr. Julie Claire Holmes, a licensed naturopathic doctor practicing in Maui. The discussion centers on naturopathy as a medical profession, with a focus on women’s health issues, especially menopause, perimenopause, and premenstrual syndrome (PMS). Dr. Holmes explains the rigorous training naturopaths undergo, dispelling common misconceptions that naturopathy is unscientific or solely herbalist practice. She emphasizes the body’s innate ability to heal itself when properly supported by natural therapies, including herbs, nutrition, homeopathy, and emotional care.
Dr. Holmes highlights her specialization in women’s health, describing how she helps women manage menopause-related symptoms using natural hormones derived from plants, such as wild yam and soy, as well as other natural supplements like evening primrose oil and don quai. She contrasts natural hormone treatments with synthetic options like Premarin and Provera, discussing their benefits and side effects. The conversation delves into the complex hormonal changes during perimenopause, the often misunderstood transition phase before menopause, and the emotional and physical challenges women face during this time.
Emotional health and individualized care are stressed as essential components of naturopathic treatment, as many symptoms are interconnected with emotional and psychological wellbeing. Dr. Holmes also touches on the importance of professional guidance when symptoms become severe or complicated, highlighting that naturopaths in Hawaii are licensed physicians who can diagnose, order tests, and prescribe treatments.
The video also briefly discusses post-surgical menopause for women who have had their ovaries and uterus removed, the differences in treatment needs, and how naturopathy can support these women with natural hormone therapy. Additionally, Dr. Holmes comments on male menopause (andropause), acknowledging hormonal changes in men and how they differ from women.
Toward the end, Dr. Holmes invites viewers to attend her lectures on menopause and women’s health, emphasizing education and informed choices. The video closes with a reminder that health decisions should be made by integrating professional advice with personal intuition and wisdom.
Highlights
- [01:47] Introduction to Dr. Julie Claire Holmes, a licensed naturopathic doctor in Maui.
- [03:12] Explanation of naturopathic training: four years of medical school plus pre-med, focusing on natural healing methods.
- [07:05] ♀️ Dr. Holmes’ specialization in women’s health, particularly menopause and PMS.
- [10:38] Discussion of natural vs. synthetic hormones in menopause treatment.
- [17:16] Detailed explanation of PMS symptoms and hormonal cycles.
- [22:56] Tour of Dr. Holmes’ naturopathic pharmacy and explanation of herbal and glandular remedies.
- [33:56] ⚖️ Insights into perimenopause and challenges with traditional medical treatments.
Key Insights
- [02:31] Naturopathy as a licensed medical profession: Dr. Holmes clarifies that licensed naturopaths undergo rigorous, accredited training similar to medical doctors but focus on natural therapies to support the body’s self-healing. This distinction counters the misconception that naturopathy is unscientific or purely herbalist practice, emphasizing its credibility and professionalism.
- [07:55] ⚕️ Growing need for natural approaches in women’s health: With millions of women entering menopause, there is increasing demand for alternatives to conventional hormone replacement therapy (HRT). Dr. Holmes’ practice addresses this by offering natural hormone treatments and holistic care, highlighting a shift in patient preferences toward gentler, individualized therapies.
- [11:13] Natural hormones vs. synthetic hormones: Natural hormones derived from plants like wild yam and soy are structurally similar to human hormones and often better tolerated, causing fewer side effects compared to synthetic hormones like Premarin (from pregnant mares) and Provera (synthetic progesterone). This distinction is crucial for patient safety and comfort during menopause management.
- [15:20] The integral role of emotional health: Dr. Holmes underscores that emotional and psychological factors are deeply intertwined with physical symptoms such as PMS and menopause discomfort. Addressing these emotions can significantly reduce symptom severity, showing the importance of a holistic approach rather than treating symptoms in isolation.
- [19:42] Hormonal fluctuations in PMS and perimenopause: The balance between estrogen and progesterone is key in regulating menstrual cycles and mood. Many women suffer from progesterone deficiency during perimenopause, leading to prolonged bleeding, irritability, and other symptoms. Supplementing with natural progesterone can restore hormonal balance and alleviate symptoms.
- [24:10] Use of targeted herbal and glandular therapies: Herbs like don quai and supplements such as evening primrose oil play important roles in supporting reproductive health. Glandular therapy, which uses animal-derived organs to nourish human organs, is a traditional but effective naturopathic method for treating subclinical conditions like hypothyroidism related to PMS.
- [33:56] ⚖️ Challenges of perimenopause in conventional medicine: Many women experience symptoms for years before menopause but are often dismissed by conventional doctors due to normal blood test results. This leads to inadequate treatment, such as unnecessary psychiatric referrals or synthetic hormone prescriptions with unwanted side effects. Naturopathy offers more nuanced, symptom-focused care during this transition.
- [35:45] Post-surgical menopause and natural hormone support: Women who undergo surgical removal of ovaries and uterus face immediate menopause, which is emotionally and physically challenging. Dr. Holmes advocates for natural hormone therapy to help these women regain balance and avoid the side effects commonly associated with synthetic hormones.
- [36:23] ⚕️ Men also experience hormonal changes: Male menopause or andropause involves declining testosterone levels, which can affect mood and sexual desire. Although Dr. Holmes focuses on women, she acknowledges that men benefit from naturopathic care as well, indicating a broader application of natural health principles.
- [41:00] Importance of education and informed choice: Dr. Holmes highlights the value of lectures and public education so that people can understand their options and make empowered decisions about their health. This teaching role is essential, especially since individualized care requires knowledge and personal insight.
This video provides an in-depth look at naturopathic medicine’s role in women’s health, particularly menopause and PMS, emphasizing personalized care, natural hormone use, and the importance of emotional wellbeing. It advocates for integrative approaches that respect the body’s natural rhythms and support healing through nature and knowledge.
Transcript
00:01
I’m AIRIELLE PEARSON with maui arts and music association and we have MAMA PRESENTS here for you today and mama is presenting to you a very wonderful maui doctor
01:47
her name is dr julie claire holmes and julie is a naturopath here what does that mean a naturopath joy a very good question get asked that a lot well arielle a naturopath first of all you’ll never meet two naturopaths that are exactly the same so it’s naturopath not necessarily well you could say it either way naturopath or naturopath okay but basically a naturopath is a person who believes that the body can heal itself and that if we support it with things of nature that basically the body can heal itself
02:31
and so a naturopath is trained to use things of nature to assist the body in its own healing abilities ah so then what does when you call yourself an a naturopath i mean i think that people don’t realize that a naturopath is actually a doctor you know i think that a lot of people think well it’s somebody that plays with herbs and does gugu medicine over their person and um i don’t think that most people realize the training that’s involved mm-hmm that’s true so i think that would
03:12
be important you did go to medical school first of all let me share some people call themselves naturopaths who are not licensed as naturopaths so there are different kinds of naturopaths so that creates a lot a lot of confusion but a naturopath who for instance was licensed in the state of hawaii which is one of the states where you can be licensed has gone to an accredited four-year school naturopathic school so it’s a medical school where we learn anatomy and physiology and gynecology and neurology and all the ologies and
03:49
pathology and and then after that we start to learn natural methods of healing the body so we focus on learning about herbs and nutrition and and how exercise affects the body and emotions and some study acupuncture some actually do home birth so there’s a tremendous variety and our training is is very rigorous four-year school after uh pre-med so you do pre-med in college and then four years correct so really what it is it’s lacking the three years that uh an uh a regular doctor would be you know
04:32
what one of the major differences i’d say is that we don’t have the we don’t get to spend a lot of time in hospitals practical like internships well we do have an internship but it’s done in a clinic and not in a hospital so we don’t get to see uh some of the things that we learn about in school we don’t get the chance to actually see them quite like other medical doctors i think although more and more our schools like there’s one in oregon um are connecting with the hospitals and we’re
05:05
getting more and more hospital training boy that’s so exciting i you know i love how that’s taking it’s pretty amazing it really is yeah we had read in the newspaper the other day that uh i can’t remember exactly i think it was that california had passed uh although about herbs and acupuncture being an important part of treatment that’s part of what alternative health care is and so when we say that julia’s an alternative health practitioner is that how you refer to yourself
05:41
that she works with many different kinds of alternative methods like well in my particular practice i use a lot of herbs i also use homeopathy i use a lot of nutrition you know i also do a lot of listening and that’s important finding out what exactly is going on or where where the why the energy of the person is not healing where it’s blocked and so i do a lot of emotional psychological work sometimes i refer for bodywork because that’s important um i do gynecological exams i’m quite
06:26
eclectic in my approach so i use many many things i use whatever works well that’s that that is through the years i’ve used learned a lot of things yes i really understand that i have the same situation myself that’s right and and that’s wonderful because we have the ability to apply a lot of different knowledge to what might be going on for each individual unlimited thinking huh so you know julie has been like we said working with this since 82 when she got out of school and i think what happened is her focus went
07:05
to women’s health care issues very strongly and now she gives lectures on the island about menopause and pms and so today we want to put a strong part of the focus of the show on those items for all you ladies and you men who would like help for your wonderful women in your life so um why don’t you talk to us a little bit about that julie how did you get into the menopausal issues so strongly and you know ariel the truth about that is that more and more women would come to me in conflict about they really didn’t
07:55
want to do the traditional medical approach yet they were concerned about osteoporosis about cardiovascular problems and about hot flashes and rightly so about the relationships you know i’ve been there so women were coming because uh as we the baby boomers are moving into menopause there’s something like 40 million women entering menopause here in the next wow that’s a big number so so the the need and i’m one of the few naturopathic women especially here in maui and so um as women requested i just kept
08:35
going deeper and studying and learning everything i could from all the other practitioners and healers around even from europe and started working a lot with natural hormones and um yeah so basically it’s out of need and interest partly that i’m also a woman who is going to be going into menopause fairly soon so well there’s so many women you know and this is a interesting it’s very interesting to me because i love to work with women as well and the and their empowerment and the changes that take place in the
09:15
uh psychological makeup at this time is very very wonderful and if we can look at this time period from a different point of view which i think you know working with you and assisting yourself to be more comfortable during this time period that’s true to understand that you don’t have to be uncomfortable that’s right you know and also that that each woman is an individual so not all women are going to be treated the same way not all women need premarin and provera not all like big names
09:54
those are hormones that are used by traditional medicine um and for some women they’re they’re fine for other women they’re not what are those names what do they mean well premarin is um is is commonly prescribed for women during menopause it actually means that it’s a hormone that’s actually taken from pregnant mayors and it’s estrogen that is then used in female women when they’re going through menopause and provera is a synthetic form of progesterone so both of these are generally used uh
11:13
osteoporosis cardiovascular so i would look at and talk to this person to find out really what’s totally appropriate for her because there there’s a there’s a whole range of possibilities ranging all the way from use of herbs on one extreme to use of the synthetic hormones on the other extreme but i have the option of using natural hormones that are taken from plants they take them from plants they take them from plants well that’s pretty as opposed to pregnant mares i think i prefer a plant
11:51
thank you and they’re very like it would be more agreeable with my body well yes for many women they are for many women it’s truly a godsend to have these options well i certainly know they helped me you know the ones that you recommended to me they’ve helped me a lot because i was very uncomfortable and going through a lot of physical uncomfortableness and julie put me on some natural what are they called plant hormones phyto hormones phyto hormones phyto-meaning from a plant but they have a lot of they have
12:30
different hormones in them the plants yes as a matter of fact the wild yam which is what a lot of the natural hormones are taken from also out of interest in the soy plant the soy plant and the wild yam are used for natural hormones to extract that natural hormones and what an interesting thing to know is that the wild yam plant it uh something like 400 different drugs are extracted from the wild dm plant from their natural form and then made into synthetic forms wow very interesting that is interesting you
13:08
know i think that that’s another good point julie because most people really don’t know that they think of natural medicine and they go oh they’re doing fufu with plants you know but really most people don’t know they’re not aware that the basis of the medicines that they get start with that plant and then become synthetic by having going through chemical laboratories having things added to them not always but not always many a lot of them that’s right right and so i think
13:41
most people don’t know that you know i think i’m happy that we get to say this yes so that people can become more aware of that i think they also don’t realize they think about natural medicine they think they can just go to the health food store and buy natural medicine so why would they come to see you for natural well i encourage in fact one of my main purposes is teaching when i do my lectures i try to give people information that they can go to the health food stores and and use certain herbs and things
14:14
that are not harmful for someone who’s not complicated you know if they’re if things are simple right i understand um but a lot of times things are not simple you know say a woman has been bleeding for 10 days in a row or two weeks so she’s bleeding every two weeks and losing a lot of blood or she really needs some professional assistance and um so that’s women will come to me when they can’t really do it on their own and they need some professional assistance to evaluate what’s going on
14:47
and to choose um to help them find the most appropriate avenue for them you know i truly think that part of that professional assistance is also dealing with the emotional part of it understanding that that’s okay and that it can be assisted you know because when you many times i think when i see women get to that point they’re not thinking about going to the health food store to buy herbs so it’s so wonderful that you’re telling them to do that i mean look at them both right go to the
15:20
healthy store by herbs and looking at the emotion with those emotions yeah you know there’s been a time when maybe 40 60 percent of my practice was just working with the emotional underlying aspects of what was going on with the woman and i found it interesting i’ve done a lot of work with pms over the years a lot of work and there was a time when i mostly i’d set up the physical program you know things like maybe magnesium and evening primrose oil or natural progesterone and then started working on helping a
15:55
woman express what was going on emotionally or maybe not even express it but discover it what she was feeling inside and i literally over a period of months as women would become more aware of what was going on inside of them watched the pms diminish i mean it it was it’s amazing i understand everything interplays together don’t you find that in your practice you know i’ve i’ve just been working with a young woman and she just said to me the other day i’m so excited we’ve gone through all this and i just
16:30
finally had a regular period i haven’t had one in years you know but we’ve been dealing with these emotional issues and so i absolutely do it’s very important and so sometimes it’s a matter of just getting the right nutritional and exercise and supplement and perhaps natural medicine and letting that play its do its work and then getting to work on the deeper issues that’s right and so pms julie when you say you do a lot of work with pms yes what is pms pms well pms ariel means pre menstrual syndrome
17:16
in case any of you don’t know that and i think i’d like to give you an example perhaps best of um what pms might be of course it could occur in many different ways but for example a woman might come into my office and say you know it seems like i’m dealing with my menstrual period all month long i bleed for five days to a week and i have a week off i feel great and then all of a sudden i feel bad again i start to feel tired i feel bloated i start craving sugar i eat terribly i don’t
17:51
want to exercise and i’m irritable and my moods go up and down my relationship everything seems worse than what it seemed like the week before and i don’t feel like myself well i think to myself this sounds like pms i know those symptoms right so that’s an example of pms yeah i mean there are certainly other examples but so this could happen any time it can last as long as two weeks for some women two weeks out of the four weeks two weeks out of the four week cycle before the menstrual period
18:27
it affects dramatically people’s relationships and jobs and lives so you must have a lot of men very grateful to you that’s true that’s true don’t don’t men go through something like this as well i mean i know that’s a whole nother subject yeah okay we’ll go back to pms so i know you have some more information for us about pms julie this is one of the charts that i use this is just a piece of a chart from a lecture on perimenopause that i use but it’s pertinent because
19:03
in perimenopause a person just oftentimes gets pms symptoms more and more so uh i just want to i don’t want you to get too hung up on all the dairy menopause okay perimenopause is actually could be up to 10 years leading into menopause so which is around perry means around menopause or or leading into menopause so thank you you’re welcome so uh in speaking about pms the woman that i saw remember her symptoms everything was pretty much okay until her um be the middle of her cycle now the
19:42
middle of the cycle is generally where ovulation is taking place so it’s interesting to note and there’s certainly been a lot of studies on this and i would like to emphasize that i’m not talking about a hundred percent of all women but for many many women this is the case with pms premenstrual syndrome is that instead of in a normal cycle the first half of the cycle is dominated by estrogen and the second half of the cycle is dominated by progesterone okay wow when ovulation happens
20:20
then the corpus luteum which is in the ovary starts to put out progesterone now many many women are not ovulating all the time or have problems with ovulation or have problems with this part of the cycle all having to do with progesterone not all women but a large percentage if you introduce natural progesterone into the situation into their intake as a supplement it helps the pms balance the pms this is just a piece of it and in addition to that i want you to be clear that that’s not the whole picture
20:59
there are often problems with digestion and elimination like for instance women may have constipation many times many many which is also contributing to pms we’ve already spoken about the emotional certainly which is aggravated by the hormonal also there can be certain nutritional deficiencies like magnesium for instance oftentimes there’s a magnesium deficiency which interestingly many women crave chocolate absolutely and you know what they i one of the theories is that they’re craving chocolate for
21:34
the magnesium i thought it was for the love julie and the nurturing and the nurturing too well so you killed two birds with one stone so i i would like the picture is complex sometimes it’s not just a matter of hormones but hormones can play a large part as well as nutritional it certainly is complex very and we as you have said already we have to remember that everybody’s different that’s right you know everybody not everybody needs to take the same things and do the same things and not everybody
22:09
experiences the same things and not everyone even has the same hormonal imbalance exactly maybe you can show us some of these uh natural medications that you’re talking about oh i’d love to great why don’t we go into my pharmacy okay let’s do that so this is the pharmacy arielle looks like a pretty interesting place there are so many things all these cupboards are just filled with different herbs and supplements and glandulars and certain mixtures that help people with different things
22:56
that’s really exciting i’ve had to develop my own pharmacy because these things don’t exist in a lot of places so we were talking i’m impressed lots of bottles in here lots of bottles so we were talking about pms right and i thought i’d show you for instance um this is an herb called don quai i this is a chinese herb and i often use it with pms it’s a it’s a very balancing for the woman’s reproductive system it feeds the ovaries in the uterus and it’s it’s a wonderful herb for
23:32
premenstrual menstrual you’re probably familiar very familiar with it i tell people to use it all the time yeah especially young women who are having right symptoms with pms um and menopause women and that’s right perimenopause women and this is an example this particular product of a natural progesterone which i often will use with pms this one is derived from the wild yam plant and you take it under the tongue and you let it dissolve on you let it dissolve like a homeopathy this is called thyrocomplex this is a
24:10
glandular of of ground up thyroid because oftentimes pms goes along with the low a subclinical hypothyroid where a person may not show low thyroid on a test but they’ll have symptoms of low thyroid and oftentimes with pms i’ll use some kind of a thyroid with that when you say that’s a glandular what what does that mean a glandular means uh of different glands like the thyroid is a gland but where do they gland oh this particular one is they grow animals especially in new zealand that are organic and they grow them
24:48
specifically and they take the organs and grind them up and put them in tablets in order to nourish those organs in our bodies very very old ancient not ancient but old way of doing it of yeah of of healing another um interesting something i use often with premenstrual is the evening primrose oil which often helps uh bloating and premenstrual symptoms what does it do basically what is oh it’s it’s actually pretty complex to get into the chemicals some women just have the don’t have the
25:28
ability to they don’t have the enzyme that actually will allow this to happen naturally in their body they’re missing it boy julie there are so many different things in here i really am blown away i really want you all to come in here and see these so jason bring that camera in here and let these people see all these things in here so we can get out of here because it’s hot in here all right let’s go in oh okay where’s the microscope julie hey the microscope’s right here jason look
26:52
here’s microscope oh boy but julie’s got all kinds of medical looking things around here that’s nice so you have everything here well i have everything i need to you girls are holding the microphone you know it’s going to be fun the people at home will love this because those mics you know aren’t plugged in we look like we’re talking but you are talking what’s funny is the mics aren’t plugged in because they came in here right boy you sure have a lot of doctor-looking
27:25
stuff here um what are these down here these these are vaginal speculums because i do gynecological exams and i even had this table specially made with wood um seat for the feet instead of metal oh wow that’s nice yeah so and so you examine the women and then what do you do with the test like if she has a discharge well i can do a culture and send it to the lab or i can look at it under the microscope or do a pap and send it in to the lab i can order blood tests mammograms so i can do a full diagnostic
28:09
workup so it’s not just herbs no that’s good to know right yeah we’re sort of a cross we’re a cross between someone who can do just herbs and someone who can actually diagnose uh situations diagnose and treat in hawaii we’re called physicians which means we can diagnose and treat now these medications that we just looked at do they need prescriptions of the sort um many of them a lot of them not and many of them are that you can only get through a licensed professional like a
28:48
chiropractor or a naturopath or an md most of them do not need prescriptions as far as like a medical doctor per se well that was fun that was quite a quite a room you have in there full of goodies i’d like to go yes i’ll have this this this and this that’s right great shopping a little concoction and program for you i like that idea so how about if we go finish our conversation on your nice soft sofa oh that sounds good okay let’s go this perimenopause thing julie is very interesting to me because i’ve
29:30
not heard a lot about peri menopause and i think probably if i haven’t heard about it and i’m somebody who’s very interested right i think a lot of people haven’t heard about it i think you’re right you know a lot of times when i do my lectures it’s really one of the things that people are particularly interested in because as i expressed earlier it could be like up to 10 years that’s a long time moving into the menopause and women feel sometimes crazy they don’t feel good they go to their regular
30:07
doctor they do all the blood tests they say you’re not in menopause there’s nothing wrong with you and they say but i feel awful they’re often given sleeping pills anti-depressive pills suggested maybe why don’t we just remove the uterus get put on birth control pills a variety of things which many women are not very satisfied with so well does the medical field recognized recognize perimeter i think that they’re really beginning to pay more attention i think the problem is that that
30:42
in terms of um remember i was explaining with the chart around the balance between the estrogen and progesterone well as a woman reaches say the age of oftentimes by age 45 they’re not ovulating anymore or they’re ovulating sporadically wow and so this means that then the body’s not producing progesterone and if this goes on month after month or even erratically this creates tremendous changes sometimes elongated bleeding in women irregular bleeding exaggerated pms like we were talking about earlier
31:19
well that’s not pms well these are all just definitions given a group of symptoms but how do the symptoms differ well the thing that’s often added in is irregular menstrual cycles long bleeding cycles or sometimes long sometimes short that gets added in and then it’s often elongated that’s when it can get up to maybe two weeks long or lasting long so the woman may be bleeding half the month and pms half the month but the traditional medical there sort of have a problem because they use what’s called provera which is
32:00
synthetic progesterone this does not help a lot with pm with um well it doesn’t really help a lot with the symptoms of of perimenopause and it has side effects often times of depression and bloating which is part of what a woman is already dealing with that’s what she’s complaining about yeah partly so so they don’t they’re sort of stuck there for a number of years often they refer to the psychiatrist or crazy women right yeah right so well what do we do about it from a natural point of view
32:36
um how is that different from i mean just by using the natural well very often that’s a time when natural progesterone because if and to restore the natural cycle but not provera provera is a different thing and that’s where there’s a lot of confusion that goes on what are the side effects of periphera like i was saying sometimes depression or bloating whereas natural progesterone actually decreases bloating often helps to change the the emotional even out the emotional state of a woman um it helps to regulate the
33:20
cycles it’s and it’s a precursor to adrenal hormones so if a person’s under a lot of stress their perimenopause can get worse and worse and worse so julie you know we just have so many things that we wanted to talk about we’ve been on a long time we hope you’ve been enjoying this conversation and a little bit of knowledge but there’s so much more there’s so much more so many things that we wanted to talk about one of them that we’ve realized that we haven’t covered at all or spoken about is
33:56
post-surgical menopause and that’s really important for a lot of women who have surgery and then all of a sudden find themselves being told to take artificial hormones almost automatically like here take this so what about that julie well i would like to clarify we’re not just talking about any surgery but surgery where specifically the ovaries and the uterus are removed now some women just have the uterus removed and the ovaries theoretically keep functioning but those women who’ve had their ovaries and
34:32
uterus removed overnight they go into menopause this is not a teenager this is not a ten year process of longer periods shorter periods getting used to it the emotional because it’s also an emotional thing about for a woman stopping her menstrual cycle and being able to bear children that’s right she has a lot to deal with on that level tremendous tremendous internal change and this happens overnight for some women and then they’re put on synthetic hormones basically oftentimes perimenopro vera
35:07
which i think they really do need to be on some sort of hormonal support or their body goes through radical shift but i’m happy to say that i have worked with women who have complete hysterectomies who can use the natural hormones that’s good perfectly well that’s good to hear it and it keeps them in balance yes yes that’s wonderful i i really feel for these women who are just all of a sudden at the age of 30 in menopause you know what do i do and um so julie can help you with that
35:45
as well as other people that’s right as well as other people so men do men have menopause joey well that’s an interesting subject i it seems to me that from the information i’ve gathered that men do have menopause it often seems to occur maybe 10 years after women boy there so maybe and it’s a decline in testosterone and by the way women also have testosterone which declines also during the menopause another interesting factor a lot of women don’t know about but it affects oftentimes their sexual
36:23
desire is as the testosterone goes down but anyway men they have a less sexual desire when the testosterone goes down both men and women yeah well you know i often have this i think that that’s why they say when you get the old man and the old woman that there’s so much more in harmony because they don’t have the outreaches of those hormonal levels those are more differences right a different stage that happens yes but i find i don’t work as much with men hormonally i do work with men in other on other
37:00
issues and naturopathically but um other naturopaths on the island do work with men i think it’s really going to be exciting to see what um the future holds for us in the way of understanding these bodies and healing them and rebuilding regenerating them you know we’re the ones defining the new like we are the baby boomers who redefined natural childbirth we talked about it we had groups about it we wrote books about it and we’re doing the same about menopause and and change that’s right and the power of the um
37:37
elder woman i see that very important at this time you know and i really i stress that a lot because i find that as we come into this time period we have a lot of wisdom and a lot of power and ability to help that we need to step into but also to recognize that we also even more than ever need the private inner quiet time as well very important yeah that’s very important and to just realize that there is a change and and a transition that women need to find their way as individuals and together
38:20
and it’s quite a journey i mean for a lot of women it’s a whole different lifetime if you will i mean their children are gone and that’s a different stage in life right so i really want to thank you so much for being here with us today it’s been wonderful fun and being here at your beautiful office and we’re up in kula at julie’s office and it’s very lovely here and we hope you’ve enjoyed touring around it with us flying around this little office and how can people reach you julie you can
38:59
definitely let us know at maui arts and music association how you feel about this program and if you would like some additional programs like this we would like to bring them to you at some greater detail yes yes i’m sure myself and other people would be happy to share more information more in depth so please do give us your feedback and let us know what you’re interested in hearing about and learning about and um you can contact julie at maui arts and music you can also contact her at her home
39:38
her office right office her office number which is uh 878 3267 you can call there that is my office and um i i do see people she sees lots of people lots of people well we thank you so much for all the people that you do see and the many people that you touch well i really appreciate it and i appreciate the opportunity to be able just to pass on this information because you know what women and people have choices we all have choices about how we take care of ourselves and we need to be informed
40:21
that’s right take all this information from me from an md from different people and take it as advice and then follow our inner wisdom to take care of ourselves basically i’m not any i’m just another piece another perspective basically absolutely i honor you so much for saying that it’s very important that we listen to what is right for us right and and take if you will all these pieces of information and bring them in and make them yours you get a lot of calls julie about this arielle it has just been overwhelming
41:00
since i started doing the lectures i i do a lecture and i mean i often receive four or five new calls every day of people who are are just so glad there’s an alternative and they want to know about natural hormones and please could they see me as soon as possible that’s wonderful it is but there’s only you know there are other people that are doing some of this work yet there’s only one of me that’s right and i have a difficult time seeing everyone one-on-one and so that’s
41:30
why i do the lectures that’s why i’m here with you today exactly i want to get the information out and so if you want to hear this information pay attention look for posters lectures and dates you might call the um maui arts and music association maui arts and music association the numbers will be on the screen at the end of the show great and perhaps sometime we’ll be able to have a program if you’re interested let us know that you want to hear more on perimenopause or menopause and perhaps
42:01
we can do a program just on that we’d really like to because i can’t do all one-on-one so julie as she just said does do lectures and you will see those lectures posted the times and dates for them and you can also call all maori arts and music for that information 573-3100 um so do you know when your next lecture is going to be julie no it’s not i i just did one about a month ago um up at holika school but my next one will probably be my guess is september october probably at the cameron center
42:47
so in that vicinity folks it’ll be advertised in the maui news it’ll be all over the place and if you have a specific show request for us please do let us know thank you thank you so we thank you again for joining us and god bless you aloha aloha from the moment that she said goodbye and then went on believing inside was a lonely cry this pain without the healing she said it’s this that i miss and i have no regrets [Music] he said it’s this that i miss and i’ll have no regrets
43:58
cause it’s you that i’m falling in love with again [Music] it’s you you
