Celebrated jazz radio voice and DJ Rodger Layng visits with Jason & Airielle at Five Corners 1998 Haiku, Maui, Hawaii and talks about BUILDING WEBSITES. Earlier days of the internet took coding and different tools in 1998 than today, 2021.
Summary & Timestamped Transcript Below…
- [00:08 → 01:45]
The video opens with a musical introduction featuring lyrics about family, love, and perseverance. The tone is uplifting and emphasizes connection and support within a community or family. - [01:45 → 03:22]
The conversation begins with reflections on the beauty of islands and sunsets, highlighting a personal connection to natural environments like Maui and the Catman Valley. The speaker appreciates artistic beauty and the emotional impact of nature. - [03:22 → 06:21]
The focus shifts to the speaker’s journey with digital art and computer graphics. Although initially resistant to technology, he has embraced the computer as a creative medium, enabling new levels of artistic expression through image configuration and graphic design.- He distinguishes between enjoying graphic design (colors and visuals) and code writing (technical coding behind webpages), noting the former drives the latter.
- There is a discussion about the Internet as a powerful global and local advertising medium, emphasizing its potential to connect thousands of people in specific regions (e.g., Maui).
- The integration of multimedia (sound, video, animation) into web pages is noted, with examples like solar and energy-themed designs to bring dynamism and interactivity to sites.
- [06:21 → 12:23]
Continued elaboration on the power of internet-based communication:- The internet combines spoken word, visual content, and eventually full-motion video, making it a rich, evolving medium.
- The speaker reveals enthusiasm about designing engaging websites and backgrounds with dynamic, colorful images (e.g., waves and dolphins).
- The creative process involves starting with simple tools like Paint and moving to more sophisticated image editing.
- The internet is portrayed as democratizing art and creativity, allowing even non-artists and children to create impressive digital works that can be printed or used in multiple formats.
- The speaker also highlights the importance of page designers who help clients translate ideas into effective web presence, making technology accessible to those less technically inclined.
- There is a remark on image optimization for web use (reducing pixel size for faster loading).
- The internet is framed as a “cottage industry” capable of reaching a global audience from a local base, with clients from diverse locations worldwide, including Wisconsin, Oregon, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Indonesia.
- [12:23 → 17:55]
Exploration of internet business and marketing potential:- The internet serves as both a global marketplace and a social club with chat rooms and personal interactions, bridging distances (example: communication between Lahina and Maui).
- Voice email and audio over the internet are mentioned but noted as currently limited in quality due to compression and bandwidth constraints; improvements are expected in 1-2 years.
- The speaker emphasizes a focus on visual and text-based internet content for now, postponing audio integration until technology improves.
- Examples of website projects are shown, including a Maui news homepage with program highlights, local news (e.g., Mayor Linda Lingle running for governor), and links to national news sources and curated internet resources.
- The role of an internet page maintainer or project manager is important for daily updates and continuous content management.
- Apprenticeships to teach local youth internet skills are contemplated to prepare them for future digital careers, reflecting a community-oriented approach.
- [17:55 → 23:19]
Discussion about the evolving landscape of internet commerce and media:- The internet is described as both a global equalizer and a platform for individual entrepreneurs to compete with large corporations on an equal footing.
- Example of Matt Drudge, a lone internet journalist breaking major news, illustrates how the internet empowers individuals outside traditional media.
- The speaker expresses support for this democratization of journalism and commerce.
- The internet’s potential for specialty item sales (e.g., a $1 million gem bought by the Sultan of Brunei online) is highlighted, showing trust and new business models emerging.
- The speaker predicts a generational shift toward recognizing the internet as a legitimate vehicle for purchasing and selling goods.
- The importance of physical shopping experiences remains, but the internet excels in niche markets and specialty products.
- An example is given of agricultural commodity trading over the internet between Midwest sellers and Asian buyers, illustrating rapid, global commerce possibilities.
- The synergy of visual media (e.g., Home Shopping Network) and the internet is seen as a powerful new sales channel.
| Internet Sales Data (Worldwide) | Amount | Forecast Year |
|---|---|---|
| Current Sales Level | $200 million | Not specified |
| Forecasted Sales Level | $20 billion | Year 2000 |
- [23:19 → 27:17]
Local impact and personal lifestyle:- The speaker lives remotely on Maui but uses the internet to maintain global business connections, allowing focus and solitude while staying connected.
- Socializing occurs locally and infrequently internationally, showing a balance between isolation and engagement.
- A project in southern China (Guangdong Province) is described, where a radio station was modernized with a computer system automating commercials, jingles, and announcements, improving efficiency and reducing costs dramatically ($10,000 vs. $100,000-$200,000).
- This example demonstrates how technology can transform traditional media operations globally and locally.
- [27:17 → 30:01]
Overview of internet site development and linking:- The speaker shows a “link page” integrating multiple resources (local weather, real estate, maps, visitor bureau, radio station), emphasizing the interconnectedness of web content.
- The site is accessible worldwide despite being locally focused.
- Local web developers and users are encouraged to engage with these technologies.
- [30:01 → 32:59]
Technological evolution and competitive landscape:- The internet business is rapidly changing with investments from major players like Bill Gates.
- Windows NT is replacing Unix as a server operating system, offering greater efficiency and lower costs (about one-tenth the cost and 600 times efficiency).
- Internet Service Providers (ISPs) vary in quality; AOL is criticized for marketing over substance.
- Staying current with technology is essential for competitive advantage and client benefit.
- The speaker’s approach includes community contribution and teaching, balancing profit with social responsibility.
- Local commerce, including farmers and artisans, can benefit from internet exposure, promoting self-sufficiency.
- [32:59 → 34:04]
Advice for internet users and businesses:- Success requires patience and ongoing maintenance; the internet is not a quick fix.
- Thousands of new sites appear daily, making visibility challenging without effort.
- Serious users who maintain and update their content will achieve results.
- [34:04 → 38:33]
Personal background and impact on Maui:- The speaker previously worked on Maui in 1991-92 in radio, implementing similar technology systems.
- Recent ratings show remarkable success of the Hawaiian music station KPOA with a 28% market share, far surpassing competitors at 6-7%.
- The Hawaiian cultural sound is confirmed as popular among residents and visitors.
- Other stations cater to alternative music aimed at younger audiences.
- The speaker praises the professionalism of local radio management.
- [38:33 → 39:09]
Closing remarks and introduction:- The speaker prefers working behind the scenes and not being a public figure or news anchor.
- The show host expresses appreciation for the speaker’s technical expertise and local commitment.
- The internet design work is timely and essential for Maui’s digital advancement, given its central Pacific location.
- [39:09 → 40:31]
Final segment features more music, reinforcing the island lifestyle and community spirit with repeated lyrics and a celebratory tone.
Key Insights
- The internet is both a global and local medium, capable of connecting small island communities like Maui to worldwide markets and social networks.
- Digital art and web design are evolving fields that blend creativity and technical skills, requiring ongoing learning but offering unprecedented expressive power.
- Internet commerce is nascent but growing rapidly, with forecasts predicting exponential growth in the near future.
- The democratization of media and business is a hallmark of the internet, enabling individuals and small businesses to compete with large corporations.
- Local culture and commerce can leverage the internet to sustain economic viability without sacrificing community identity.
- Technological advancements (Windows NT, multimedia integration) are making the internet more accessible and efficient, but users must stay current to benefit.
- Patience and consistent maintenance are crucial for internet success; it is not a set-and-forget platform.
- Apprenticeships and education in internet technology are vital for preparing the local workforce and ensuring community benefit from digital progress.
| Term | Definition/Explanation |
|---|---|
| Page Designer | A professional who creates and manages website content and design, translating client ideas into web presence. |
| Internet Service Provider (ISP) | A company that provides access to the internet (e.g., MauiNet, Maui Gateway, AOL). |
| Windows NT | A Microsoft operating system designed for server environments, noted for efficiency and lower cost. |
| Voice Email | Sending voice messages via the internet; currently limited by compression and bandwidth. |
| Cottage Industry | Small-scale, home-based business operating globally via the internet. |
| Digital Art | Art created or manipulated using digital technology and software. |
| Multimedia | Integration of text, images, video, sound, and interactive elements in digital formats. |
Conclusion
The video provides a comprehensive exploration of the evolving role of the internet in art, business, communication, and community life. It underscores the transformative potential of web technologies for local economies and global outreach, while candidly acknowledging current technical limitations and the need for ongoing adaptation. The speaker’s personal journey from traditional media to internet design serves as a microcosm of broader digital shifts, emphasizing creativity, accessibility, and the democratization of commerce and information. The narrative closes with a strong affirmation of Maui’s unique position to harness these technologies while preserving its vibrant culture and community values.
00:08
sty sty just living on an island sty let [Music] mey down sty Downy let me down there is sunshine in your heart it’s been with you from the start lift your head the heavens will feel [Music] again sty don’t let me down sty don’t let me down St don’t let me down reach out your hand and each other your mother your father your sister and brother there is love in this family pick yourself up and get on your feet Don’t Stop Me Now sty don’t let me down sty Downy Downy me [Music]
01:45
[Music] Downy [Music] hyy sty [Music] Downy me [Music] Downy St Mo sty I like it a lot very pretty beautiful colors happy happy it’s beautiful islands you know we’re up where you were today the sunset from up there it’s just probably the best of you in the world there’s one other that I know of where I used to live in the Catman do Valley up at the end of the Catman Valley po sunsets up there I love cat M do very nice yeah there’s one place I never did any business whatsoever
03:22
well you’re very sensitive man yeah maybe maybe got it you have the hands of an artist yeah I finally found my medium too you know I’ve done some drawing in my life and it’s been okay and some pastel work but the computer for me really now I can configure images and do all kinds of things with it that has taking me to another level so thank you that’s a great new way for me to look at the computer art it it can be really you know because I have a lot of resistance to it obviously sure and um that’s a
04:14
good way to look at it because I see your beautiful artist’s hands here and I go my thought was so what’s he working on the computer for this the graphic design is what I enjoy the actual code writing if you look here this is the code that’s behind the that page and you have to write I have to enter in all of these lines with everything that is appropriate to make this spring up I don’t enjoy that as much as doing it’s the color the colors and the graphics but one drives the
04:49
other so it’s all going handy that’s right well I like this part yeah me too yeah me too well that’s you know the the product of the internet is based on what is on the page cuz like am I correct Roger when you do Pages you can also do sound and you can also do um I can do anything you know I mean the uh one I’m designing foron there’s an energy exchange thing I’m going to make the sun pulse windmills turn and the water ripple oh how wonderful I love it it look it’ll look
05:44
kind of like a pinball machine but that’s okay it’ll have some Charisma it’ll have some energy and then here’s a solar design that I did that I like solar I love that isn’t that powerful that’s wonderful we’re looking at that to to enhance uh leads you know I I always thought of internet as a global thing and what I’m learning is it’s Global yet for example if a Maui net or a Maui Gateway or the other carriers have thousands of people here online then it becomes a powerful advertising medium so
06:21
that is what speaks for me um what comes over the internet and I that’s what I’m understanding Roger when we uh you’re background in radio to me means that you’ve been able to use the power of the spoken word and now you’re able to take the spoken word and the visual and put it together I bet this is a great medium for you it’s all it’s all coming together all of these mediums including the one that you’re doing now video and full motion video will be a function of
07:25
mean it has such dynamism if it was in a magazine the goal is you have to have it stand out in a magazine wow you’re doing this interview over here wait what what’s it we sort of having fun you know because we need a little of uh Beauty in here too that’s why we’re letting you be in and then Roger and I will talk to code this is a family channel that’s right I like having you in because your your response is an absolute response when you’re sitting there this is a great new medium oh it’s and what
07:59
attracts you is the visual right Roger does the thing to make the visual more spectacular see if I can I like that part I’m working on [Music] one let’s see where is it here I got so much in this let’s check this out that’s just a photograph find it I’m working on a wave to put as a background up this is the colors will change and the w more Dynamic but this will be a background to a page subdued in the background so the colors will that’s amazing colors will fade back there do
08:39
you see that dolphin in there well I do yeah and I did it but I hadn’t to realized look at that you actually designed the page I did I drew the page drew it I drew the what where I where I start is here in a place called Paint it’s a very simple paintbrush program and how I started with that wave is I went up here and I did this and then I filled it in a little bit that’s too much I filled it in and then I took it I saved it went into this photo format went into modify found some tools found some colors look at all
09:51
those colors you see you can have fun Ariel did this this did this did it take you a lot to learn this Roger probably some time yes it did it took a long long time but the good part is you can work with people no matter what their level of technical expertise right that’s right and you’d be surprised if people who here to for have not considered themselves artistic once they get on to this technology they just start to smoke you’re seeing now some real fabulous things happening on the
10:37
internet and for children who are you know on Game Machines or stuff like that if you turn a a creative child onto this they’re going to be turning out masterpieces on this computer because this then can be transferred to a sheet of paper uhuh and blown up poster size done all kinds of things if you take the computer image you can then make a real image out of it you know a hard edged image and do pastels on top of it do all kinds of things so the potential really is endless it’s incredible and I love
11:11
the dolphin back there yeah yeah I maybe could uh touch this up now see the work that I’ve done on this page is not saved until I tell it to save and I do that by let’s see going here see all those different things Ariel I know it would take me hours to figure out where those things were I was to do with them well that’s what’s fun there’s all kinds of gradients you know right you don’t have to take things to this length that’s what Roger and uh people like Roger do they page that’s it right
11:50
right page designers that’s right which means they help you take your idea and put it up in the world I guess there’s a a part of our community that doesn’t want to be bothered with the techie stuff like me Raj that’s right that’s why I guess I came to you look at that Ariel you like that so that’s going to be a background for a page we may use that for our water page who knows you know whatever yeah and the the the image is reduced in uh size in actually pixel pixel size
12:23
so it’ll load on the internet easily rather than just you know like a photograph so that’s uh that’s the potential there for artists it’s wonderful for text Communications for people all over the world to communicate with one one another I have clients that I do business with in Wisconsin in Portland Oregon in Seattle here on Maui in Hong Kong in Honolulu in Singapore and Jakarta Indonesia all from the beauty of your Maui home all from right here wow from right here on the slopes of halaka
13:03
is that what they mean when they talk about cottage industry I guess this is a great example it is a great example and it’s a cottage that can reach the whole world wow um and there’s lots of room for people to get into it now too I see I guess the power of television and video is moments ago you were here with Ariel yeah second now here I am amazing amazing well we could do that on the screen we can that’s the point it’s a it’s a paradigm shift the pages that I work on I go from products and services
13:43
such as a Whitewater Ranch in Wisconsin to a personal homepage for somebody in Palace veres to a cam project in anapali beach to selling classic Harley motorbikes in Hong Kong to Rich Hong Kong Chinese now I know they’re dwindling these days but there’s still some of them that go for it so the thing that I’m yet and when we talk to our audience you know those people out there m the best part about them is they’re just exploring now this is a whole new world very soon you’re already talking about this guy
14:18
and this guy and this guy business is going to be done on this internet it’s already beginning beginning right but as far as a lead generation Source like I say for me you’re a business all over the world but I look and think this internet thing isn’t so Global it has great local potential for me as a uh marketer or as an individual it can become a social club right they have all kinds of person chat rooms and things and chat rooms I have an old uh an associate in lahina that I worked
14:52
with at a radio station there many years ago who I haven’t seen for a long time and she and I communicate via the chat room uh on the internet from here to Lina so it’s both micro and macro have you explored the voice email yet I I have yeah there’s a thing called Microsoft NET meeting that I have used and that I like a lot however at this particular time audio on the Internet is certainly not FM quality and it’s hardly am quality it uh has to be compressed and you can only use short bites and if
15:28
you’re on live it’s a function of the telephone line and how many people are using the server at the same time and it breaks up it’s going to get a lot better that’ll be cured in a year year and a half two years whatever while that happens I’m concentrating mainly on the visual and keyboard text impact of the internet I will I will get back into audio when it’s a little better why don’t we put something up on the screen different let me see some of the pages that you’ve been doing just since I’ve
16:01
been here which is 3 weeks from Portland Oregon since I relocated right I’ve built out a number of pages now does it take you hours and hours is this some fantastic expensive project for someone I guess it could be it it depends on how many images how much Graphics what what the project is how much time to really understand how to sell it on this medium it doesn’t necessarily have to be there’s one page internet spreads there’s a 100 page internet spr so you work with a client for example our people out here would
16:41
recognize they have an idea what they want to do it kind of helps people organize their thoughts and see exactly how can they clarify what they’re doing to make it simple so Ariel do you see uh is on the screen let’s see what the monitor has k oh I remember that’s really terrific this is the homepage for kual that will go up on the internet in a week or so um you go to programs there’s program highlights you go to news There’s a summary of important Maui News oh look at that look at that that is an
17:18
important story it is it’s about somebody mayor Linda lingle running for governor now and Jason Schwarz running for mayor well that’s true that’s a pretty important story I like that then if you come down here and you this this will this logo will take you to NBC news in New York for their daily news and this will take you to my own internet scope that I’m building out as a internet sweep service to locate interesting internet sites and appropriate internet sites for people with specific interests so at this point
17:55
the internet has these what they call search engines here there’s weather this is a daily uh so you do this every day every day so it takes maintenance it does so this has becomes like for someone like you they’re internet designer then their internet page maintainer that’s right project manager is what I call so that when we talk about kids coming out of school and having computer knowledge for example that’s the when they talk about the future of marketing and development in computer I don’t know if people
18:26
understand or appreciate that we know that our kids getting out of school need to have a job so you’re really like I would think a very important bridge to help some of the kids around here learn and use a lot of the knowledge they’ve had at school what I might do here is to take two or three apprentices per year rather than a big gang of kids that you’re trying to control and help with their Lifestyles and whatever to take a couple of young people on a real serious Apprentice uh uh term in business trying to teach them
19:02
the internet I think probably I’ll consider that after I’m more established here have you had much contact yet with our um Tech Park I guess not yet not terribly much I’m looking forward to it I think there’s an important I was on aahu for a year developing my skills and doing Pages for people and everybody on aahu had a lot of respect for the Maui Technology Center did they that’s good you hear that so when I think of what’s going on here I wonder what is going to really
19:35
change um I see all these big stores coming and wiping out mom and pop I’m afraid and I see um it’s like a whole Revolution that’s happening in the way we approach everything you can get almost anything over the mom and pop can move to the internet Because the Internet is a great leveler it knows no if you look at NBC here NBC’s presence on the Internet is no more prominent than kua’s right I look at like if you put on my logo in a sea of stuff and it’s got the juice on the visual that’s right
20:15
then I have equal status with NBC that’s right you’re just as likely to click on me as there there’s a uh a rough neck in Los Angeles called Matt drudge who is running a little internet news service it’s just himself and I guess he’s now because he’s making a lot of money all of a sudden putting out rumors and gossips he he says himself that his stories are 50% true and he uh is one of the ones that broke the story about Clinton picked up by The Washington Post picked up by ABC News he’s just a guy in
20:47
a room oh yeah in Los Angeles on the internet a good example of of some things about the internet a bad example about other things journalists quote qu unquote are outraged about this fellow but then you know most journalists are not worth their salt in this world really they’re just in it for the lifestyle the glory and the power much like most of corporate America you know so uh I I’m happy to see that kind of thing happen that you can become a journalist on the internet anybody can so I really like the fact you know it’s
21:27
like to me the best part of the internet is that it gives a guy like you’re talking about the Matt drudge and his little report from a little room in Los Angeles announcing President Clinton’s um doing supposed indiscretions yeah and um it could have been uh all kinds of different news services but it was an individual that’s a great legalizer that means mom and pop have a way to sell their product what I don’t yet understand is what it’s going to take maybe it’s going to be a generational
22:05
change but what is it going to take to have people recognize this as a vehicle for purchase we’re in a sort of a funny time now you see the big stores and you end up I find myself buying more generic product from some big store because of a price or a convenience well first of all people are always going to want to go and hang out in the marketplace with and the bizaar with other human beings and touch the merchandise and see the fruit and have a cup of coffee that the internet is never going to replace
22:40
that kind of shopping the internet might work very well for specialty items the Sultan of brunai about six months ago bought a$1 million gem off the internet he saw it at at sub’s auction page on the internet and he emailed them saying I am the Sultan of brunai my pockets are very very deep and I want that Jewel and they said no problem Mr Sultan here it is big story about the internet you know so specialty items I mean if you got an email message that said I am the sulan of berai and I want to spend 12 million
23:19
my reaction would be hey I think we got some Joker here I was loose on the internet well it could have gone could have gone like this you know subes in London is a pretty snoody organization of could have gone oh sir look an email from the Sultan of brunai he says he wants to buy a jewel do you think he has enough money let’s ask him for a credit reference let’s do a TRW on him they don’t know who he is but who knows again the Commerce level picture this somebody in the midwest in Chicago wants to sell
23:53
grain wants to sell truck loads car loads canisters of grain and puts it up on on the internet we are auctioning off this lot here’s what it looks like here’s what it costs here’s the particulars somebody in Malaysia needs that grain gets on the internet saying your price is acceptable we are wi wire transferring with ecash to your account in Chicago the amount of money get it on a 747 over here because we need it post haste that’s the kind of Commerce that will happen on the internet for human
24:24
beings it’ll be specialty items look at the success of the home Shopping Network when the visual medium of uh the shopping networks on TV come together with the internet which is already happening that would be a big Compass or like um for example here at Maui Arts and Music Association when we’re talking about creating diss those discs can be purchased and also sound bites showing the world what we do so this is a great medium for previewing things sure and being able to for example someone that wants to kind of
25:04
look at different jazz or whatever kind of any kind of subject this has unlimited capability to let you search and play wherever your mind will take you uh sales levels now on the internet worldwide are about $200 million a year which is sort of dropped in the bucket but they’re forecasting 20 billion by the year 2000 less than 2,000 two years away and I say 20 billion and you and I know that even 20 billion is a drop in the bucket to what it’s going to be just a few years thereafter which is why
25:37
someone like Bill Gates spends billions to position himself because right the money here we’re talking about is spectacular money so that means for example an island like Maui I’m bringing it right back down to what I know and what I understand by being able to sell a product at a distance to people all over the world to raise money for the environment like we’re doing through the product sales we’re able to bring in Revenue so we don’t have to burden local people and by by sharing our vision with people all
26:11
over the world I guess that concept could work for all kinds of people all kinds of Industries and create a whole real this cold internet can be a very warm and loving and giving can indeed it uh I live on a fairly isolated part of the island which is what I prefer because I find having been a corporate vice president for CBS in San Francisco and New York CBS you have NBC we should put something else on the screen let’s put something no no no having having done a lot of corporate things having
26:45
been very social in my younger years I find now that I’m much more hermetic but I do like to communicate so I can be here alone virtually for days at a time concentrating on this but communicating in hyers in hyperspace you friend in that’s right with with the business associates all over the world that really suits me to a te then to go out from time to time once a week here locally once every four months to Asia where I have some interests or back to the mainland us or not even to Honolulu
27:17
it really means something to go out and socialize and have a good time so that’s basically uh let’s put something different on the uh the last uh radio station that I worked at seriously to develop was a station in southern China and guandong province in guango which used to be Canton big big place in southern China 12 million people the government owns the radio controlled basically from Beijing but because of their new capitalistic policies uh they are willing to broker time so they brokered time to some
27:51
people on one of their FM frequencies for a station called yes FM a mixture of American hit tune some British rock some Kanto pop from Hong Kong and Taiwan and with uh Mandarin speaking and canones speaking Chinese kids doing it I went there and installed a computer system for all of their continuity which means all of their commercials all of their Jingles all of their Public Service Announcement everything came from the hard drive of the computer the the jocks the disc jockeys were live but the
28:24
computer did everything else a very efficient way to to run a radio station because instead of investing in big control rooms and a lot of expensive fixed structures you you invest in three or four PCS couple of monitors and for about $10,000 us you have yourself a full functioning radio station you can then you can then you know and that would have cost $100,000 $200,000 10 years ago without this technology so that’s a way that the radio business can really benefit and for KU that’s what
28:58
we’re to do so it can stay on the air so it can maintain a very very low overhead and Supply the community with the most effective programing isn’t that exciting so I guess we’re going to have to watch our uh watch our radio radio let me see some of those other pages that you’ve done would you I’d love to see this is called a link page which means why don’t you follow with us it means uh it has a d bunch of links to different things this goes to that Maui weather that we were talking talking
29:28
about this goes to uh an ail Bay condo this one goes to a map of aahu this goes back to my lighthouse internet Design This Again goes to Kua radio so I’m in the process of building this out this will go to the Hawaii visitors bureau there’ll be all kinds of Hawaii information on this page and this page is a standalone page which means that people all over the world can access only this link page although it is part of another site it is part of the K outside now people here on Maui many of
30:01
you out there are looking at this and thinking hey I know what I know how to develop and build a page um what else what else do I want to see about this television show I’m knowing that you’re doing new and exciting things that are um different if you will than the things on Mai what kind of differen is I mean I know that you’re working on things that involve fast there servers different kind of languages what’s happening now well the business is changing radically in that area because of the heavy
30:37
weights that we’re talking about specifically Bill Gates investing so much money into making the internet easier to use quicker uh more accessible to many more people so you really have to stay on top of your equipment in the internet 3 4 years ago the internet was a pretty expensive prop position from the standpoint of a internet service provider which is what people like you and I use to access the internet say mauet or Maui Gateway or whatever that’s an internet service provider the biggest
31:13
one in the country is AOL and they don’t do a very good job they don’t do a very good job because the best thing about AOL is their marketing they’ve oversold themselves they’re very self-promotion oriented getting back to my main point is is that the Unix operating system that was prevalent 3 or 4 years ago as the only operating system is now being replaced by a Windows based program an add-on and a uh enlargement of Windows 95 called Windows NT Windows NT if you build a server system with Windows NT
31:49
it’s about a tenth of the cost and about 600 times more efficiency as far as I’m concerned for the individual user W answer your question question about the new technology you really have to stay on top of it and there are new technologies for internet service providers being developed every single day of the week and that will make the internet more accessible and faster and I’m staying very close to those developments so that I can offer my customers a first chance and a lot of them so you mean I’m going to get some
32:21
special benefit from all kinds of Technology breakthroughs oh good good good good and what I what I try to do with this as I’ve done in my broadcasting career and my teaching career and whatever is to to um use almost a Biblical approach to making money for myself but tithing to the community a certain amount of time and effort to to do good work with this technology you and I are talking about some uh some sites that can benefit some local uh Farmers that grow vegetables and things absolutely well I think that
32:59
way you can hear I’m constantly thinking of how to use something that will let us get our message widely known to helping make Commerce here locally better because I really do believe that local economies need to be more self-sufficient it’s really sort of odd but funny and happy for me to know that a technology that can seem so distant and Global can be so powerful locally to stimulate and build our economy here in Maui exactly there is one C that I would offer people for the internet um it’s
33:33
not a quick fix it takes a while for it to build it takes a while for people to find the pages that are appropriate there’s a lot of people signing on to the internet maybe 30,000 sites worldwide a day are going up on the Internet so to make sense of all of those sites and the jumble it takes some time and it takes some effort to work a site but if somebody is serious about the internet they will get results if they stay on top of it and just don’t expect it to be something that they put
34:04
up and then forget about it that’s going to put money in their paret pocket that doesn’t happen except in very rare cases you know I um I’m very happy to have you on the show I know that your involvements here on the island already have made an impact in your short time that you’re here but that’s not even true you were here before weren’t you I was I was here for 2 years in ‘ 91 and ’92 91 and ’92 we remember 91 and ’92 when was that that was after it was Sadam one I hope we don’t have
34:41
Saddam 2 here yeah so you were here in radio I was I I was with kpoa over in Lina and I installed one of these systems in kpoa to make them better and I noticed the ratings just came out the other day in kpoa with their Island Sound is now Head and Shoulders above any other radio station on this island for for people who listen to the radio wow 28 share of the ratings and everybody else is on The Islander fightings for sixes and sevens so that’s good it makes me 28 compared to six and seven so I
35:17
guess we’d say that the Hawaiian culture and sound the people that come to the island I don’t know how this is measured still want that Hawaiian sound yeah they do yeah they do and the people that live here they also want the Hawaiian son cuz 28 compared to six and S I know I know wow I know so now when I see boy canile know we he was on we had him on our show Aloha you know he has the show we have a terrific mix of of uh people here um I could that is very dramatic it is dramatic wow it is dramatic and they’ve
35:53
been here since 1984 and they also own a uh station called khhi which is what they call alternative rock it’s a pretty strange sounding radio station but I’m assured by the people who own kpoa and khhi that that’s what young men are listening to if so we’re doomed young men what about women too I imagine I don’t know are they geared toward young men certainly old men like me can’t listen to it really yeah so kpoa really has made an amazing Dent I’m just amazed at that and they’re
36:30
good people over there too they are good people I um and this PO and alakai and Chuck bergson that runs it Debbie who runs the office and all of them are just fine oh yeah I know um that they are probably what does they say have all this time have been U having great benefit of what you set up well I know um that this is probably not a medium you’re off and on no it’s you’re behind the behind the scenes I was a news anchor on channel I was a news anchor on channel 13 in La for one short year and I didn’t like people
37:05
coming up to me in supermarkets and bothering me while I was buying my MAA so if you see Roger out there while you want your MAA at Food Land but you they can come up and say hello to you here they could yeah that’s right you’re not going to be on a whole year here yeah we won’t have them on a whole year no no no I don’t know if we’ve actually done the formal introduction we’re going to do an introduction and we’re going to do an exit in quick succession watch this you
37:29
like this so Roger thank you for joining us it’s really been a great pleasure right AR thank you thank you and we appreciate you coming um on our show I know it’s not a a normal medium for a guy who’s behind the scenes um your uh La experience you don’t want to be a newscaster again no so you’re going to be only on this medium yeah yeah well I’m really having a great joy in knowing that there are people like here that are like you who have had experience in different mediums and now going to bring
38:02
it here to Maui because we here in Maui you know I guess you’d say we don’t want to have thousands of people coming here but we need to have experts to help our people here really fully appreciate and get more up to speed so that quote technology doesn’t pass them by we need to be up to speed now sure so your internet design is probably just at the right time ma is the best place on the planet it’s right in center of the Pacific in the center of the universe as far as I’m concerned I agree what do you
38:33
think in fact we’ll take your cards and letters on that one so thank you for being with us Roger thank you aloha aloha so watch this this is the magic of Television one two three and wow amazing the miracle of TV well Roger I would love if you would show Ariel some of the pages that you’ve done here sure maybe some that you’ve done for me and uh others and walk her through the internet cuz I don’t think Ariel has had a great deal of experience have you Ariel you know I haven’t Jason
39:09
not a great deal but a little bit I sit with you while you play with it and some other people yeah and I’m going to learn too especially now that I see all this color matter where you go matter you do take that Maui Style with you cuz if you Ain Maui styling you just living on an island sty [Music] Downy Downy [Music] down down there is in your heart it’s been with you on the star your head to the [Music] Heaven Again nowy Downy Downy let me Downy don’t let me down out your hand and help each
40:31
other your mother your father your sister and brother there is love in this family up and nowy don’t let me down Mau sty don’t let me down sty don’t let me down sty don’t let me down sty up country sty sty sty sty [Music] sty [Music] sty sty sty don’t let me down sty let me [Music] Downy St [Applause] [Music]
