Airielle’s World with acupuncturist MARCO BIANCARDI

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Airielle’s World – Airielle sits with acupuncturist MARCO BIANCARDI in mid 1990s in Maui Meadows, Kihei, Maui, Hawaii.- 1995

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Summary of Video Content on Acupuncture and Holistic Healing with Marco Biancardi


  • [00:0003:12] Introduction and Setting
    The program opens with a warm and welcoming introduction by Airielle and Jason at the Maui Arts and Music Association (MAMA). They introduce Marco Biancardi, an acupuncturist originally from Italy, who brings a deep understanding of acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine (TCM). The setting emphasizes harmony, beauty, and healing as integral to health, underscoring the connection between environment and well-being.

  • [03:1207:44] Marco’s Background and Philosophy
    Marco recounts his extensive training across Asia (Sri Lanka, Hong Kong, China) and the United States (Santa Fe), where he earned an Oriental Medical Doctor degree. He initially approached acupuncture out of curiosity and a desire to learn about the body’s interaction with energy and environment rather than as a predetermined career choice.

Key insights:

  • Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) encompasses more than symptom treatment; it is a philosophy focused on how the body interacts energetically with external factors like emotions, food, and environment.
  • Preventive medicine is a core principle in TCM, emphasizing maintaining balance before illness manifests.
  • Western medicine increasingly recognizes the holistic nature of health, including physical, emotional, and energetic levels, aligning with acupuncture’s holistic approach.

  • [07:4410:41] The Meridian System and Energy Balance
    Marco explains the meridian system in TCM:
  • There are 12 main meridians corresponding to the body’s organs.
  • Acupuncture points lie on these meridians and influence the flow of energy (Qi).
  • Needling these points restores energetic balance, which in turn promotes health.

Important concepts:

  • The body and cosmos exchange energy through these meridians.
  • Chinese medicine does not name diseases but rather sees illness as an imbalance of energy.
  • Healing focuses on restoring harmony rather than attacking symptoms or diseases.

  • [10:4115:45] Diagnosis and Individualized Treatment
    Marco stresses that acupuncture is highly individualized:
  • For example, there are 10 different types of headaches, each requiring a unique treatment.
  • Diagnosis involves detailed pulse reading (12 pulses corresponding to organs), tongue examination, and palpation to assess energetic imbalances.
  • Treatment aims to rebalance elements within the body, such as reducing excess “fire” (heat) by stimulating the kidneys to increase “water” and restore equilibrium.Maui Neutral Zone environment promoting peace and balance in nature.

Summary:

  • Acupuncture treats the person, not just the symptom.
  • The practitioner must understand a patient’s unique energetic state to apply the correct treatment.

  • [15:4522:39] The Experience of Acupuncture and Practitioner-Patient Relationship
    Marco describes acupuncture needles as very fine and painless, unlike hypodermic needles, sliding between cells without damage. Patients often experience deep relaxation and peacefulness during treatment.

Crucial points about care:

  • Healing is enhanced when patients trust the practitioner and the process.
  • Marco prefers an intimate one-on-one approach, contrasting with busy clinics, allowing a deeper connection and more personalized care.
  • The healer’s intention and attention are fundamental to the therapeutic effect.

  • [22:3929:55] Energy Fields, Modern Technologies, and Variations in Acupuncture
    Marco discusses the broader energetic field surrounding the body:
  • Beyond the 12 meridians, there are millions of energetic pathways.
  • Acupuncture and other energy therapies (magnet therapy, laser acupuncture) stimulate these fields to restore flow and balance.
  • Technologies like Kirlian photography have demonstrated changes in the body’s energy field pre- and post-acupuncture.

Innovations and traditions:

  • Japanese acupuncture uses very fine needles and techniques involving metal properties (copper and zinc needles) to create polarity and stimulate energy flow.
  • Marco also mentions the use of color and light therapy as adjuncts to acupuncture, showing the art’s diversity.

  • [29:5534:56] Integration with Chinese Herbs and Holistic Medicine
    Marco emphasizes that Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) includes:
  • Acupuncture
  • Herbal medicine
  • Massage (Tuina)

Herbs are prescribed based on their energetic properties and the patient’s constitution. For example:

  • Ginseng is a warming tonic from cold northern climates, beneficial for energy but to be used cautiously (e.g., not in hot weather or summer).
  • Dong quai is commonly used for women’s health, particularly PMS.

Important for patients:

  • Understanding one’s body response to herbs and treatments is vital.
  • Herbs are powerful and should be used with awareness of their energetic effects.

  • [34:5638:11] Self-Healing and Conscious Awareness
    Marco highlights the importance of patients becoming their own healers:
  • Healing is a collaborative process where the practitioner facilitates, but the body does the actual healing.
  • Patients are encouraged to cultivate conscious awareness of their body and energetic state.
  • The ultimate goal is freedom, happiness, health, and abundance through self-knowledge and balance.

  • [38:1139:25] Environmental and Energetic Challenges
    Airielle shares a personal experience with electromagnetic pollution causing lymphatic blockage and physical distress during a hike near electrical wiring. Marco agrees that:
  • External environmental toxins affect our energetic and physical health.
  • It is our responsibility to maintain clean air, water, and land to support holistic wellness.

  • [39:2542:37] Closing Remarks and Contact Information
    The hosts express gratitude for the enlightening conversation and emphasize Marco’s gentle energy and spirit. Marco’s clinic is located in Lahaina at the Lahaina Acupuncture Massage Center.

Contact details:

Jason and Airielle encourage viewers to reach out with questions and feedback, highlighting the value of re-integrating acupuncture and holistic healing into Western health paradigms.


Key Concepts and Definitions

Term Definition / Explanation
Acupuncture A traditional Chinese medicine technique involving the insertion of fine needles into specific points on the body to balance energy flow.
Meridian system A network of 12 main energetic pathways corresponding to organs, through which Qi (energy) flows.
Qi (Chi) The vital life force or energy that flows through the body in TCM.
Pulse diagnosis A method of assessing health by feeling 12 different pulses on the wrist, each corresponding to an organ’s energetic state.
Preventive medicine An approach focusing on maintaining balance and health before disease appears.
Chinese herbs Natural plant substances used in TCM, prescribed based on their energetic properties and targeted effects.
Energetic imbalance The root cause of disease in TCM, seen as disruption or disharmony in the flow of Qi.
Kirlian photography A technique to photograph the body’s energy field, demonstrating changes due to treatments like acupuncture.
Magnet therapy Use of magnets to influence the body’s energetic and magnetic fields as a complementary healing technique.

Timeline of Key Topics Discussed

Timestamp Topic
00:0003:12 Introduction to Marco and the healing environment of Maui
03:1207:44 Marco’s training background and holistic health philosophy
07:4410:41 Explanation of meridian system and energy balance concepts
10:4115:45 Diagnostic methods and individualized acupuncture treatments
15:4522:39 Patient experience, importance of trust, and practitioner care
22:3929:55 Energy fields, modern acupuncture methods, and technology
29:5534:56 Use of TCM herbs and integration with acupuncture
34:5638:11 Patient empowerment and self-healing
38:1139:25 Environmental impact on health
39:2542:37 Closing remarks, contact information, and future engagement

Highlighted Insights

  • Acupuncture is a holistic and preventive medicine modality that treats the entire person, including physical, emotional, and energetic aspects.
  • Healing is about restoring balance, not just eliminating symptoms or diseases.
  • The practitioner’s intention, attention, and relationship with the patient greatly influence therapeutic outcomes.
  • Traditional Chinese Medicine integrates acupuncture, herbal medicine, and massage to promote health.
  • Modern tools like magnet therapy and light therapy complement classical acupuncture.
  • Self-awareness and conscious participation are essential for true healing.
  • Environmental health is deeply connected to personal health.

This comprehensive summary captures the rich, informative discussion on acupuncture and holistic healing presented by Marco Biancardi, grounded entirely in the provided transcript.

aloha thank you for joining us today with another program brought to you with love from mama i’m arielle and i’m jason and we’re here at the maui arts and music association and we’re here to deliver to you wonderful people and wonderful events and things that are around these islands that can make a difference in your life

 

01:34
today in just a little bit we’re going to have an interview arielle is going to interview a wonderful man marco biancardi an acupuncturist and a friend i think you’re going to find it very stimulating and well worth watching what do you think ariel i’m looking forward to it i look forward to it as well so please be with us and thank you for watching aloha aloha aloha this is ariel with another wonderful exciting opportunity for you to meet one of our incredible island healers through

 

02:13
mama presents sounds good ariel um i think what he was saying is that this is ariel and marco biancardi marco is from italy and he is here with us on this magnificent morning to talk about acupuncture indeed we talked about the capacitor and a lot of other things absolutely thank you for being here well thank you for being here marco i really appreciate it your home is really beautiful i feel like i’m in this wonderful jungle here yeah it’s very nice it’s so beautiful harmony is allowed to

 

03:12
get us to do a lot with with with health too you know beauty and harmony it’s a lot to do with health absolutely looking at beauty heals the souls aloha to everybody it’s my pleasure to be here and in company with ariel and then this beautiful so random flower and harmony and peace and [Music] and joy and beauty and sunshine in blue sky it’s very important when you try to communicate the feeling of uh healing and feeling good you know and beauty you know they all go together it’s very important to

 

03:51
create that that harmony around us and keep it inside our heart and here on maui we are so fortunate because everywhere we love everywhere opportunity to use this beauty to restore our souls and our peace indeed so marco is an acupuncturist uh along with many other things that he does and he um where did you go to school marco i went to many many different places ariel first i started in asia in sri lanka siloam beautiful island beautiful island i was there for a couple of years and and it wasn’t really necessarily a

 

04:39
school in those days i didn’t know that acupuncture was going to be my profession i was mostly looking for for teachers where they could i could learn from the right experience basically the art of acupuncture and traditional chinese medicine and actually it’s just more than that it’s the old philosophy that goes beyond so i was just i traveled around asia studying hong kong i studied in china and then when i came into the united states i uh i went to school in santa fe and i did uh orient oriental medical doctor degree

 

05:12
in chinese medicine wow i’m impressed that’s quite a title santa fe is a beautiful place to do it it’s a beautiful healing place too really very magical very magical healing energy that’s a very good experience how wonderful for you so you didn’t know you were going to be an acupuncturist i mean what led you into that whole thing it took two years before actually there was a conscious act and say yeah i like this maybe i think i can heal i can i can help people it took two years before it was mostly

 

05:48
kind of a passion that i have for it and the anger to really learn more about myself and about how my body interact with everything around and how health comes around basically so you started out just being interested in general in health in health but really also about how your body interact with the energy around you you see for the chinese medicine it’s not just about you know a headache or this or that disease about how do you your body respond to the external environment how does your body respond to your

 

06:27
emotion how do you feed yourself in terms of food instead of emotion in terms of thought in terms of elements around you and so on it’s a it’s a very complex cosmological aspect that you learn in traditional chinese medicine and the energetic involvement that it involves is quite magnificent in a certain way yeah it works a lot with the whole balance of the body in a whole different way than western medicine yes it does there’s a whole new that’s why earlier i talk about philosophy you know and what i mean for

 

07:05
philosophy it means that the chinese basically they like to deal with with the energy aspect of it and not necessarily with that once the disease is already there they like to deal with with the preventive medicine in a certain way and and well i think that’s something that we’re all learning more about absolutely thank you god absolutely very important because for us to have gotten to this stage where we have gotten to with these bodies it’s really important that we now realize that they need to be

 

07:44
assisted along their path to wellness before we get sick yes yes and western medicine is definitely understanding now too that the body is not just the body that you know the the mind the emotional and energetic are all connected to each other therefore you know when you treat uh an individual you have to really uh have a global picture of where it stands in relation to all the different level and that’s what we do with acupuncture you know when we apply before we apply a treatment before we

 

08:18
decide what kind of uh acupuncture point to use we always do all uh diagnosis of course that you have to do but the diagnosis involved many different aspects of the beings in it imply the physical level the emotional level and the energetic level i understand that marco that that’s really the wholeness of what holistic healing is about it has to deal with the emotion the physical the the whole person everything that’s going on with them their environment what they’re doing what their job is

 

08:59
what they’re thinking if they’re thinking positive or if they’re thinking negative and and the different types of bodies that respond in different ways to different things and that all has to be taken into consideration absolutely absolutely yeah it’s very exciting you know and that’s what preventative medicine is about because we can move with that from there absolutely one of the basic statements you know of acupuncture is basically that as above so below so whatever you know

 

09:34
going on out there in terms of an energetic the body reflects in a certain way that can there is an interaction of energy between the the season between the weather and between our physical body in a certain way and and the region system the meridian system uh is where uh let’s talk about a little bit the meridian system basically in traditional chinese medicine we have basically 12 meridian one for each correspondence for each organs and the acupuncture points are located in those meridians

 

10:06
so that whenever you insert a point a needle sorry you stimulate a needle uh located in this region basically the physiological effect is that it it restore rate a balance it balances the flow of energy in that meridian and so uh what i was trying to say that the meridian is the place where we exchange interchange energy between the cosmos and our body absolutely so the needle has the function to replace this to bring forward the state of harmony in a certain way in the body and and one one uh curious aspect of

 

10:41
traditional chinese medicine is for example that there are no name for diseases the chinese that did not have name for diseases i love that isn’t that nice that’s great all that there is is that there is imbalance in the system therefore by balancing the energetic of the body you re-establish health absolutely and then we also have to deal with what creates that imbalance to start with that’s the more complex aspect of it and that’s i guess what the real healing uh come forth in a certain way you know

 

11:16
because you have to train people to understand where they stand in terms of emotion in terms of exactly in terms of many different aspects of life right well with the work that i do i really feel that it’s wonderful and and you know what acupuncture does and the work what we do energetically is all very wonderful and assisting the body to heal and assisting it to move through the blocks that have been created but if we don’t deal with what creates those blocks to start with we recreate them absolutely you know so

 

11:52
that’s very important i think that the kind of therapy that we we apply in a way is very very timely right now because also all the different energetic changes are happening in our planet in a certain way you know the magnetic field is not as strong as it used to be really so different very different and so therefore you have all this kind of therapy like magnet therapy that are coming out which i understand you use quite a bit too i i have recently gotten into using magnets magnetic therapy i’ve been

 

12:23
sleeping on a magnetic bed which has helped my body and my energy tremendously and i i understand that that’s very individual you know and that does that’s the same there’s the same way acupuncture work in a certain way you’re establishing that magnetic field in the body it does well my body also responds wonderfully to acupuncture i’ve had incredible successes and changes with pain for example you know which i think is that’s what acupuncture has been most known for in our western medicine society that’s

 

12:58
true and this one of the first approach when it was uh in a way understood in the west at the beginning you know basically uh acupuncture was used a lot for for uh anesthetic uh effect that in china they use a lot for for surgery for example without using energy medication i’m sure that you’ve seen on tv example of that and once and basically what they come to understand is that whenever you insert an indoor in the body the body uh secret endorphin which is a natural powerful painkiller 200 times stronger

 

13:30
than morphine i’d much rather hire you to come into my surgery room than an anesthesiologist that sounds good to me i like that part of it yes yeah i’ll keep that in mind if i ever need it marco but i don’t think so with all this preventative medicine that we’re doing very good so how does it affect the pain like you know if somebody comes into you and they say i have a pain and my right shoulder that’s where the art of a traditional chinese amazing start in a certain way you see

 

14:04
when you come with the pain uh let’s suppose a headache for example it’s summer time now a lot of people have what we call it fire problems see a headache for example is a lot sometimes too much heat generate headache in a certain way but there is not you cannot go to an acupuncture and say oh i’ll give you this point for the headache because we recognize at least 10 different kind of headache each individual is unique therefore there is no magic form of the work for everybody therefore when you come and see me

 

14:36
the first thing i look i look at your beauty first at all and appreciate who you are and then uh we feel the pulse the pulse for example when you feel the powers when we feel the pulse there is not just one pile it’s not just about the speed per minute there are 12 different pulse one for each organs and each individual pulse basically give a picture of the energetic how strong or weak is your energetic system therefore we through the pulse through the tongue and palpation depends you know we kind of get a

 

15:16
picture of where you stand in terms of energetic and then use the corresponding point and for example if you have a headache and we said you know it’s because there is too much fire maybe you use too much mexican food and you get too much heat and it goes into the head and create a headache so it is like you know if your house is on fire you know you put water to put out the fire the sand is the same is our system our system is made out of element therefore if if your headache is because there is too

 

15:45
much fire maybe you have high blood pressure what we do we stimulate the kidneys so generate more water and balance out the system you see how it works yeah i do see how that works sure your boss is good by the way are they good good all of them i’m alive well that’s good to know you have such beautiful hands they feel so nice thank you people must love it when you take their pulses indeed it’s a beautiful arctic in the past you require a lot of insight silence and you inquire really

 

16:23
of a special connection you know it’s very um healing uh has a lot to do also uh with the approach with the that we create that you create with whoever you decide is going to be your doctor and so on absolutely i think that one of the most important things for healing is that the person feels safe they have to feel faithful they have to feel that they can trust you and they have to believe in what you’re doing i mean if you have somebody that comes to you that is saying acupuncture doesn’t do

 

16:58
anything well what happens then they’re not going to come up also you know when you say about trash you know see acupuncture obviously i think everybody knows that deal with needles and nobody like needles me included you know not body necklace but the the the needle effect it’s it’s very very different for anything that you you know people tend to uh assume to the that has the same effect like the hypothermia is very very small it’s very tiny and so when you actually insert a needle

 

17:30
it slides through the cell so that there is no tearing of the of the cell it’s just just like going through battery in a certain way very very easy and very gentle and the and the first uh sensation that you might experience is there’s a lot of peacefulness and relaxation basically and as you allow your system to relax as you trust the process you go deeper and deeper and you basically activate your own healing process because at the end is always you that you’re doing the healing that’s important yes that’s true but

 

18:05
then how does that little needle which and i agree with you for the most part i have found acupuncture relatively painless every now and then it hasn’t been but for the most part it has been um but how then would you tell these people that that how how does it stop their headache what happens in there that you figure out it needs water and how does that stop their headache how does it stop the headache you know um how does that needle i cannot answer that question in terms of western medicine because in a way

 

18:50
our way to understand what’s up in the body is still very limited i can explain you in terms of maybe more oriental traditional chinese medicine basically what’s happening is that the needle have a balancing effect on the energetic level of the system you know sometime before we’re talking about magnet and it’s really the body is like a battery a battery that generate a energy on a positive and negative spec in a certain way so there are many many different techniques in acupuncture

 

19:20
it depends where you study japanese is different from chinese korean is different from vietnamese and they all work very well and european use ear acupuncture korean use hand acupuncture and so on but one of the style that i use a lot is the japanese because it’s very first they use very small fine needle i like completely painless very small insertion and one of the technique for example that i i do like a lot is for example we use the needle the needle the needle are made with different elements so

 

19:53
i use a copper needle and a zinc needle what it does is like gold and silver it creates a polarity of energy so that is stimulate the energy to run in the meridian in a certain flow that stimulation of energy that polarity uh facilitate the energetic uh in the meridian which in terms help the the organ that has to do with your headache and and and basically anytime you insert a needle is like sending a message to the brain and the brain feedback is oh let’s go and check it out what’s happening over there so

 

20:26
it sends red blood cell it’s in white blood cell it activates your own immune system basically and that’s the most that’s the way i had heard it said was that there were like these little messenger zamos that like sent this little message into the brain that said hey energy balance or energy here happening and that’s right and the body knows what to do what kind of hormone to secrete and and how to take care of himself if we give it a chance one of the things that i always ask to my client is

 

20:57
basically would you please take your mind off for maybe half an hour and just let the body do the healing let the body body knows what they need to do just enjoy the process relax have fun it’s really what it’s a lot and what i love about your acupuncture marco is that you i i mean the care that i feel that you have for the person that you’re with and your focus with them your attention with them which is very different than some of the acupuncture that i’ve experienced where a doctor comes and says well

 

21:32
oh you have a pain in your shoulder but we’ll put a needle here and um and he leaves the room for 20 minutes and the person is lying there going yeah well yeah exactly because when you do acupuncture especially for the first time you like to know that you you are you’ve been taking care and that’s my choice you know that’s why i also moved to hawaii i used to practice in texas and i work six days a week in the clinic and i have three different treatment room and going on at the same time you know and

 

22:00
then i decided that was not the way i wanted to work so i came to hawaii and live huh i came to hawaii and i basically work with one person at a time it’s my choice my choice of of working and in that way the diff i enjoy very much because uh you you really have a chance to get to know the person is in front of you and really you know there is many different level of working in a certain way i mean if my intention is to heal you and i hold that intention then you’re going to feel well that’s

 

22:39
right if my intention is to stick your needle and go and run out of the door you know then you know you might still heal you know but you know it’s very important uh the approach and the attention of and and the love that you put in into your work so important and and the focus and people do appreciate and feel it of course you don’t need to be to be a healer to appreciate that you know because that’s very human to everybody appreciate love and care right absolutely we all do so um with the energy work that

 

23:14
for example that i do you know we’re moving out on those same meridians in the outer body fields i mean how do you feel that that then affects does you think it affects differently or similarly to the needles i’m just talking about the whole energy body you know the auric fields the whole energy body the system seems to me is that there’s an electrical there’s an electrical system in the body in a way before earlier i said there are 12 meridian but in reality there are millions of

 

23:47
meridian and billions of points all over the body so we’re just talking about the main region and what are the main acupuncture points therefore there is an energetic field that is all around the body and you know that uh obviously you can heal through the aura and there’s so many people it’s really amazing you know because even if we want to go with what they’ve proven scientifically with curling photography and the advancements of that which can take pictures of these fields and how they change i mean they’ve taken

 

24:20
pictures for example um uh with the magnets you know of how that changes the field you know with these photographs yes absolutely one of my friends akko pantry from texas he was a leader of liquidium photography and kilian photography really helped a lot acupuncture to to be recognized because they did it you know before the acupuncture treatment and after the acupuncture treatment and the change in our in the energetic field of the body was was absolutely you know different pretty amazing no doubt about it you

 

24:56
know the effect of acupuncture very powerful well you know i heard a story that um and i don’t know the exact truth of this this is this is something that i heard that when the uh acupuncturists were trying to prove the value of acupuncture that they actually uh killed a monkey i think they shocked him or something and killed him and then they needled his perineum and in using the needle in his perineum they brought him back to literally brought him back to life did you ever hear that story i heard the

 

25:34
story [Music] okay a story that i heard so and i i think that that can be done you know i know there but you know in a certain way also because we western we still do in terms we have to convince the doctor to maybe acupuncture work uh if you are into acupuncture field and you know you know that this is a a kind of therapy has been going on for at least 5 000 years probably one of the oldest available in the world or at least they still exist so there is no doubt in my mind acupuncture work and there is no

 

26:13
doubt in the mind of the patient that came to me and i got exactly got results from it so uh i think that’s the best well you know somebody said something a little while ago was jason wright about alternative healing and um i think his words were it’s not alternative it is it is the alternative it is the right the right choice healing there is no alternative but to look at the whole system as one thing to prevent i shouldn’t be talking from behind the camera but it’s okay i really feel involved with you it’s a

 

26:51
really important subject i’m really glad to have you guys here back to us thank you yes that’s true that’s true i really agree with you yeah it’s it’s very wonderful that um i’m i love how all of this is coming together now for the rest of the world that has moved away from it to re-embrace it again major major improvement and even the relationship with alternative medicine and and and the doctor traditional medical western doctor you know it’s much more better now that we we definitely uh

 

27:28
recognize but doctor we get clients and and it’s definitely a much more easy relationship that that uh is exists right now when i think of 10 years ago when i first moved to united states and work in texas and in those days it was still illegal to practice acupuncture and you have no idea what we have to go through to be able i i wanna hear a story i heard of chinese that because in those days you could not find the needle they used to buy a guitar string and then out of guitar stream because

 

28:05
they didn’t know where to find the needle needle is that a guitar string how did they do that well i guess they play music after you know musical acupuncture i don’t know it sounds a good technique but definitely a technique i use a technique similar to that yes and today you know we went from using a guitar string to laser therapy for example you know that’s one of the latest you know certain people now use a laser beam to stimulate the point um other used magnet i use a lot of magic north and south polarity magnet

 

28:42
well one of the tools that i have is a a light beam generator which actually works with cold ionized gases and it it does stimulate the the meridians but that’s not the main purpose of it i mean it it helps to cleanse the limbs you know and it’s doing the same thing it’s going in there with uh sound frequency light frequency and moving what is stuck one of the greatest greatest master of acupuncture which actually died a few years ago from japan he he was incredible i i was fortunate

 

29:22
enough to to study with him and he used basically color he used to use piece of color on the acupuncture point and demonstrate that just by applying a certain color a certain vibration the energetic field that there was a change in the reaction like a certain tension point will disappear wow so i know there are so many different that’s what at the beginning i said it’s an art because it really is once you understand the basic of the energetic field then you can apply so many different systems and also i also know but it

 

29:55
helps a lot you know i mean to just take the machine and just use the machine is not the same as having the understanding because you really also get to play a lot too that’s right it’s really funny it’s a play and creation at the same time and i for example i feel very much attracted to energetic i always focus myself on the energetic and yet you know i also practice uh chinese herbs with that yeah chinese medicine so actually the traditional chinese medicine um it involved acupuncture it involved

 

30:29
herbs and it involved massage is a bit true when you go to a chinese oriental medical hospital basically there are always these three different levels you know you have the first level where well there the vocal internal medicine where they use the herbs then you have the acupuncture then you have the massage and herbs are so incredible i mean i’ve also had such outrageous results with the use of herbs very powerful it really blows my mind you know and when you see just using this one herb and then of course

 

31:01
after i studied homeopathy and studied all these different things and we look at how our medicines got started they truly do for the most part come from these things they’ve just been us made into these things that are not real anymore they are real but they’re not they’re real but they’re making a natural sense it’s a different way of extracting them and there’s different way of using them in a center where you see again in chinese medicine when you use herbs you use them according

 

31:34
to the energetic and according to where they’re going to act in your body and according to the the energy that you want to stimulate in the body you know the very famous and well known one is the ginseng you know ginseng is a very common tonic for men for longevity for energy that many many people uh many people use and yet you also have to understand that this is powerful just because they’re not sell it on the pharmacy doesn’t mean that you know you have to understand also how to use them marco’s saying

 

32:05
ginseng by the way for those of you who are not understanding this italian accent ginseng is an herb that men use very frequently and women as well yeah and women well i think the most commonly known one for women is don quai which assists a lot with pms and um yes it’s very very good one thing that i always want to clarify that certainly what i was trying the point i was trying to make is that you know for example ginseng did i say it right ginseng just the way we say it but i’m sure you

 

32:43
said it right it’s a very good herbs and yet if you think where jane sang come from it comes from the northern mounting of china korea very cold weather so it’s a very hot kind of herbs which that’s why it produce energy and when taken in a y um you it you need to be taken in in small dosage in a certain way particularly in the summer you don’t want to take ginseng in the summer it can be it could produce too much heat in your body therefore causing too much energy and irritating

 

33:15
and maybe see i never found it was good for me to take too much of that good but you see you are in touch with your body you understand you know people that take herbs like they take medication then they need to to have this kind of understanding they need to to really start feeling their body and see how their body responds to the herbs or their medication that they’re taking yeah absolutely i mean it’s so important that people pay attention to their own bodies pay attention to how they really feel the changes in

 

33:49
their bodies if they do take a medication or whatever these little bugs whatever it is that you’re taking it’s really important that you attain conscious awareness of what’s going on in your personal environment and i think that’s where really the healing come from in a way i feel that a lot of my work interaction with my client is really about explaining them to understand themselves better because eventually you are your own healer you are the one that do the healing i’m just a facilitator of that process

 

34:26
and and that energy that that is moving in you you know but you are your own healer and and and and that’s for me that’s really the fun part of communi getting to know those people obviously as a doctor house you get to know people in in a very uh personal way you know and they you they place yourself in a vulgar vulnerable space so you get to know them very personally and uh and and they’re very open to learn and and they’re very what i found that people are very very eager to learn about

 

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themselves and they do want to be their own healer they do want to be free they do want to enjoy life and they do want to have a good time absolutely and they want to be happy and healthy and abundant and we want to live in this beautiful environment you have to be an example of it we are not wonderful you had said earlier that disease is an imbalance basically in the energy systems of the body yes and my understanding is also is that as well but also that disease which is dis ease yes which is that imbalance

 

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yes right is uh and aging as well is a lack of light and oxygen in the cellular structure of the body that in in testing and with photographs and all these wonderful things that they can do today they’ve actually seen that the cellular structure when it has light sent into it and oxygen which is one of the reasons that all the great masters for example do prana exactly okay is that it infiltrates the cellular structure with the light and the oxygen which then the dis-ease leaves the body absolutely you know if

 

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you provide enough oxygen to the cell there is no way there is no absolute way that a virus can get into your system you know the reason why uh somebody goes into a bar and comes out with a uh get a flu bug you know and 99 of the people don’t get it is because that person’s system immune system is very low of energy very low in prana whatever you want to call it exactly but there’s there isn’t the base for disease yeah it’s very exciting i mean this is one of the reasons i’m excited with this

 

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new machine that i have you know in addition to the prana and the other ways that we have of filling this the structural cell with light and oxygen you know as you say there’s no way for for the disease to stay present absolutely you know one of the things that i also sometimes uh play with my client is as they’re receiving acupuncture treatment i give them little subliminal messages in a certain way to practice with this and one of the subliminal messages basically light breathe light breathe light into

 

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your system as you’re getting the treatment visualize the light going into your system yes and i guarantee that the people after the treatment they feel 100 percent better 100 absolutely i do that as well with light it’s so important and simple and easy you know most of what we have to do for preventative healing is very easy and fun and it’s not complicated you know we have to eat well exercise well love well and on that uh you know it’s interesting i had an experience the other day we were talking

 

38:11
about how the energy affects the body we went out for a hike the other day and in the process of this we walked through some electrical wiring some really pretty a lot of electrical wiring and and and my body just went absolutely on freak out i could i could barely walk for a while and it was like so it was very interesting to see that and then going home and using my machine what i got to see was that my lymphatics had gotten blocked up in that process it was like the system is so important because again you

 

38:47
know we’re also talking about elimination of toxin exactly and so and the body you know the system around us is polluted in a certain way and so therefore we have we have we are responsible to keep this water clean exactly we’re responsible to keep this water clean we’re responsible to keep this air clean and this land clean in order to keep these bodies kind of emotional exactly and our minds and our hearts and every aspect of it absolutely so you know i’m so excited that we’ve

 

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had this opportunity to share this conversation this morning we could go on for a really long time i know we could yeah there’s so much and i love being here with you and and sharing this because yeah i appreciate you doing this and i know that you’ve all had a wonderful enlightening experience about acupuncture and energy and all that marco is about you know i think that people who come to see you are so blessed because your energy i mean just sitting here beside you your energy is so healing and so soft and

 

40:03
and i love your laugh and your smile we get to experience that as well so thank you so much for joining us marco and thank you for joining us and i know that this has been a most enlightening experience for you to learn about acupuncture and energy and marco and to contact marco marco where do these people contact you they can contact in my office in lahaina which is the lahaina acupuncture massage center and it’s localian dickinson street and the telephone number is 667-6260 or through mama and we would be happy to

 

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take any messages or contact marco for you and we appreciate your feedback and your comments we hope you have a most beautiful day aloha much aloha well arielle i want you to know i really enjoyed you and marco there’s so much about the subject of acupuncture and electricity and magnets and so much that people have just begun to understand here in the west that have been i guess you’d say commonplace for five thousand years in the orient huh so ever i believe i am really glad that uh you chose marco

 

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to be on the show with us he’s a wonderful man and i think a valuable part of our community he’s an incredible being and i love him very much and i know you will too thank you for joining us please realize that we hope that if you have any more questions of marco please call him or call us here at mama i know it was mentioned earlier but it’s really important for you to give us feedback and we’ll be glad to have some of these guests on again and and uh really give input based on what

 

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you want to know marco and i have a lot more to say a ton more to say in fact i’m sure we’ll see him again on the show ariel thank you for doing a wonderful job thank you jason you’re welcome for all the work that you do to bring mama mama forward yeah mama maui arts and music association the promotion of arts that’s visual arts healing arts music the cultures of our islands with a purpose to heal our environment and to make a better world for all of us and what do they say we want to see so

 

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we can live healthy and happy that’s right anyway thank you again and aloha aloha [Music] it’s you you
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