BioPhotonicScanner 2003- LON WARDROP

BioPhotonicScanner 2003- Jason Schwartz interviews LON WARDROP about the Pharmanex Bio Photonic Scanner. Kahului, Maui, Hawaii

Summary & Timestamped Transcript Below…

Biophotonic Scanner and Pharmanex Products Presentation on Maui

• [00:05 → 02:30] Introduction and Setting
  The program opens with music and welcomes viewers to a special episode of the Maui Arts and Music Association show. The host introduces Lon wardrop, a representative from Pharmanex, and sets the scene in the Akaku Maui Community Television Studios. Despite Maui’s reputation as a relaxed island paradise, the host notes the busy schedules and stresses faced by residents, similar to mainland life.
• [02:30 → 04:35] Introduction to Pharmanex and the Biophotonic Scanner
  Lon wardrop introduces Pharmanex, a Utah-based company, and their revolutionary product: the Biophotonic Scanner. This device is described as possibly the most significant biomarker development of our lifetime. It is currently in prototype form, with only five units traveling the country, making this Maui appearance a rare opportunity.

The Biophotonic Scanner measures biomarkers—specifically antioxidants—using light technology, a process called biophotonics.

• [04:35 → 07:34] How the Biophotonic Scanner Works and Antioxidants Explained
  The scanner works by shining a laser light (473 nm wavelength) into the palm of the hand, which is about 400 microns thick. The light excites carotenoid antioxidants in the skin, which emit a fluorescent light at 510 nm, allowing precise measurement of all 18 carotenoid antioxidants present in the body’s largest organ, the skin.

Antioxidants are explained as the body’s defense against free radicals—unstable molecules with extra electrons that damage cells and tissues. The scanner thus provides a non-invasive, quick reading of the body’s antioxidant levels, which correlate with disease risk reduction.

Previously, measuring carotenoids required invasive procedures such as cutting skin and using high-pressure liquid chromatography (HPLC) on skin or blood samples, which was impractical for widespread use.

• [07:34 → 10:20] Importance of Antioxidant Levels as a Biomarker
  The scanner offers an immediate, non-invasive assessment of the body’s defense capacity against chronic degenerative diseases (cancer, heart disease, arteriosclerosis). Scientific literature includes over 30,000 white papers supporting the link between high antioxidant levels and lower disease risk.

Lon compares this biomarker’s potential significance to cholesterol, a well-known health indicator tracked since 1948. The scanner’s readings provide a new, critical biomarker to assess health status in real time.

• [10:20 → 12:21] Maui Community and Scanner Usage
  On Maui, people have been scanned at gyms and health food stores. Scores vary, but the highest seen is about 50,000, with averages around 22,500. Comparatively, some US locations show much lower scores (below 10,000). Lon points out that young children (ages 9-7) have the lowest antioxidant levels nationally due to poor diets, which is concerning given their developmental needs.

Moms who scan their children reconsider their grocery choices after seeing results, highlighting the scanner’s impact on health awareness.

• [12:21 → 15:38] Pharmanex’s LifePak Supplement Line and Clinical Validation
  Pharmanex produces LifePak, a line of antioxidant-rich supplements tailored for different demographics: teens, adults, prenatal, and older adults (LifePak Prime). LifePak is endorsed by the Olympic Committee, with over 50% of Olympic athletes worldwide using these products, a major endorsement.

The company employs 76 PhD formulators, including top nutrition experts like Lester Packer and James F. Balch, who support the use of the biophotonic scanner and LifePak supplements.

Pharmanex conducts clinical studies on all its products—an uncommon practice in the supplement industry due to cost and time. These studies involve placebo-controlled, double-blind trials to scientifically verify product efficacy.

• [15:38 → 17:31] Patents, Research Collaborations, and Origins of the Scanner
  Pharmanex holds exclusive rights for 17 years and 2 months to the scanner technology through patents owned by the University of Utah (2 US patents and 6 international patents).

The scanner was accidently discovered during research on age-related macular degeneration (AMD) by doctors at the Moran Eye Center who aimed to measure carotenoids in the eye. The discovery of skin carotenoid measurement via the finger was serendipitous and has now evolved into this scanner technology.

• [18:01 → 20:49] Maui Visit and Health Observations
  Another Pharmanex representative joins the discussion, confirming the health consciousness of Maui residents and their relatively high antioxidant scores compared to other US areas like Utah.

They explain that intense exercise generates free radicals, which can temporarily lower antioxidant scores, emphasizing the need for adequate supplementation to replenish nutrients after heavy physical activity.

• [20:49 → 24:04] Company Background and History
  Pharmanex was acquired by a new company about four years ago for $135 million, which then pulled the products from 39,000 retail locations to shift to a more educational, direct-to-consumer marketing approach.

Pharmanex collaborates with major research institutions including UCLA, Stanford, Harvard, Berkeley (home to Lester Packer’s lab), supporting high-level scientific validation.

• [24:04 → 27:46] The Scanner as a “Veggie Reader” and Future Impact
  The scanner is described as the ultimate “veggie reader” or “lie detector” for nutritional intake, as it objectively measures antioxidant levels regardless of claims or appearances.

The company’s mission is to help people worldwide “get their number” and maintain it, supporting better health and potentially longer lifespans by reducing risks of heart disease, cancer, and other major causes of death.

• [27:46 → 31:31] Availability and Nutritional Recommendations
  The scanner is officially launching in Salt Lake City in February (year Not specified). It will be widely available but is not marketed as a medical device; it is a biomarker tool to supplement health decisions.

The American Medical Association recently recommended all adults take multivitamins, a major shift from previous positions, based on studies showing most adults do not meet minimum nutrient requirements from diet alone.

• [31:31 → 35:27] Soil Depletion, Nutritional Challenges, and Social Responsibility
  The hosts discuss soil depletion and how modern produce has lower nutrient content than in previous generations, making supplementation necessary.

Lon introduces Pharmanex’s charitable initiative, Nourish the Children, which feeds orphaned and malnourished children worldwide. The cause aims to combine health improvements with humanitarian aid, encouraging listeners to contribute financially and emotionally.

• [35:27 → 38:14] Closing Remarks and Contact Information
  The hosts emphasize the sincerity and moral commitment of Pharmanex’s leadership to improving quality of life, not just profit. Lon and the team are praised for their enthusiasm and leadership in health education.

Viewers are encouraged to visit gotyournumber.com to find scanner locations and learn more about the products. The conversation closes with lighthearted banter and an invitation for viewers to get scanned.

• [38:14 → End] Demonstration and Final Notes
  A live demonstration shows the scanner in use, taking about 30 seconds per scan. The average score from clinical studies is around 19,500, and higher scores indicate better antioxidant levels and thus better free radical defense.

The video ends with music and closing remarks reinforcing the scanner’s significance as a major health innovation.

Key Concepts & Definitions

Term	Definition
Biophotonic Scanner	A device that measures antioxidant levels non-invasively by detecting fluorescence of carotenoids in the palm skin using specific laser light wavelengths.
Antioxidants	Molecules that neutralize free radicals, protecting the body from cellular damage and diseases.
Free Radicals	Unstable molecules with extra electrons that damage cells by “stealing” electrons from body tissues.
Carotenoids	A class of 18 fat-soluble antioxidants measured by the scanner, critical for cellular protection.
HPLC (High-Pressure Liquid Chromatography)	Traditional lab technique to analyze nutrient content in blood or tissue samples.
LifePak	Pharmanex’s clinically studied multivitamin supplement line targeted for different age and health groups.

Quantitative Data

Metric	Value / Detail
Number of carotenoid antioxidants measured	18
Laser excitation wavelength	473 nanometers
Emission wavelength	510 nanometers
Average scanner clinical study score	~19,500
Highest scanner score observed on Maui	~50,000
Lowest group antioxidant levels (ages 7-9)	Lowest nationally; poor diet noted
Number of white papers on antioxidants	Over 30,000
Pharmanex patents	2 US patents, 6 international patents; exclusive rights for 17 years 2 months
Clinical study participants cited in AMA report	21,500 (none met minimum RDAs)

Highlights

• Biophotonic Scanner offers the first non-invasive, instant measurement of antioxidant levels, a critical biomarker linked to disease prevention.
• The device targets carotenoids in the skin, which reflect the body’s antioxidant status and overall health defense.
• Pharmanex’s LifePak supplements are endorsed by the Olympic Committee and supported by top scientists and clinical research.
• The scanner technology originated from accidental discovery during eye disease research at the University of Utah.
• Maui residents generally have higher antioxidant levels than some mainland US populations, but children show alarmingly low levels due to poor diets.
• The company emphasizes education, clinical validation, and a holistic approach to nutrition and health.
• Pharmanex also runs a charitable initiative feeding starving children globally, linking health products with social responsibility.
• The scanner will become widely available soon, launching in Salt Lake City, with a goal to “get the world their number,” helping people track and improve their health.

Key Insights

• Antioxidant levels are a powerful biomarker that can predict risk for many chronic diseases, offering a new tool for preventative health.
• The non-invasive nature of the biophotonic scanner makes it accessible and practical compared to traditional invasive tests.
• Clinical validation and scientific rigor set Pharmanex apart in the supplement industry, which often lacks such standards.
• There is a paradigm shift in medical recommendations, with major organizations now endorsing multivitamin supplementation.
• Nutritional deficiencies are widespread due to soil depletion and modern diets, making supplementation important even in healthy communities.
• Fitness enthusiasts require increased supplementation due to the oxidative stress caused by intense exercise.
• This technology could transform public health by empowering individuals to monitor and improve their antioxidant status in real time.

Contact & Further Information

• Website to find scanner locations and product info: gotyournumber.com
• Scanner launch event: Salt Lake City, February 21–22 (Year not specified)
• Pharmanex collaborates with major universities and has exclusive patented technology for antioxidant measurement.

This comprehensive summary captures the full scope of the video content related to the biophotonic scanner, Pharmanex’s products, scientific background, and community impact as presented on the Maui show.

Transcript

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this this is lon wardrop Lon how you doing Welcome to our show Welcome I’ve love Maui we’re sitting here in akaku Maui Community Television Studios with all of Maui you’d think we’d have beautiful things and we’re going to put some palm trees on just special for you who aren’t here on Maui but we are here in the studio because it was a quiet place in the middle of a very busy downtown Maui people don’t know that Maui is uh just like the mainland we got our own busy busy busy busy schedules

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here that uh you know you think that here in Paradise we don’t have stress well that was the thing I was so amazed about that you guys actually work around here I thought you come to Maui to just relax and go to the beach and and do nothing well nothing that’s was what I was excited about that’s the pr we like to share right Lan is a representative from a company called pharmanex you’ll see it spelling soon farm and X is based out of Utah and some have reported that the new product that you have coming out

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on the market is and may be the most significant biomarker of our lifetime called the biophotonic scanner that’s a little ahead of ourselves so I want to get uh into it slowly Lan first of all thank you for joining us here in M glad to be here glad to be here you know Lan is out with another gentleman and they’re traveling the country with one of five prototypes for this biophotonic scanner that’s right we know that we Little M Maui normally wouldn’t get an opportunity to see you at this stage in

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development but through a fortuitous uh uh Mutual friendship with uh Daniel Cohen we’re able to be here in Maui and I’m thrilled to have you here why don’t you give our audience an idea of what a biophotonic scanner is would you be so kind well bi you bet and maybe a little bit of a background on you know how it got developed in the company rather than me ask you some questions I just want to let you go little then I’ll ask some questions good so you know bio would be like different biomarkers a biomarker

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would be like cholesterol would be like blood pressure would be like maybe even your body fat or even you know the one we’d be most familiar with be a scale and so this is biophotonics fonics is measuring biomarkers with light so that’s what we’re able to do we’re able to measure biomarkers with light we send a light into your tissue of your body we actually go right here into the palm of your hand the um nutrient that we’re measuring are all lipophilic fat carried and so we go into the palm of the hand

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here where it’s 400 microns thick it sends a light in at 473 nanometers now sounds a little scientific but it is it’s physics we know exactly what it’s measuring sends a light in at 473 nanometers it comes back out at 510 nanometers so we know exactly what it’s looking at it’s looking at your antioxidants your crinoids antioxidants in your body all 18 of them and that’s really important because that’s your largest wind of antioxidants in the human body let let me break in CU I sometimes so this

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is a machine that’s desktop size that you put your hand on it and this little light a laser light measures in you I guess it’s 18 of the carotenoid antioxidants some of you know but some of you don’t know that an antioxidant is basically your defense against free radicals and the way I like to think of free radicals in chemistry some of you had chemistry you remember that you’d have something that would come in with an extra electron when it came into the system whether it’s a equation of

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chemistry or in your body and because it has this extra electron it’s looking to match up and balance itself and so in our body it’s grabbing and marrying up with different tissues and different things in our body and basically cannibalizing our body and I’m sure you’re going to tell us that um it has been discovered widely many Papers written about it you were talking 30,000 there’s actually 30,000 what we call white papers publication documentation from scientists saying the higher the

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level of the antioxidants the less chance you’re going to get any disease out there so antioxidant is something that fights these free radicals this machine measures your level of antioxidants with a scanner takes a minute you know what I found interesting was what do we compare it with it sounds like Star Trek but the only things that we’re doing that kind of test now is we’re cutting a piece of skin and taking blood I that was meaningful to me yeah what one way we’ve been able to do it in

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the past is we’re able to cut off four inches of skin off of your body so the only people that are willing to do that are people that are willing to do tummy tucks and so we cut off four inches of skin off your body we grind it up like hamburger and we run it through this thing called an hlc high-pressured liquid chromatography it’s wet chemistry so it goes through these fractionating columns and then it takes all your nutrients and and breaks them out okay so that’s one way basically describes

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what’s in there like they do blood tests with it’s a total blood test and and we would actually go through and do the same thing with blood work if we really wanted to do a real research on your blood what’s going on it’s not what happened 12 hours ago you know if we did your blood work today and we’d find out if you had you know basically if you had VA juice last night or carrot juice your beta carotene levels would be absolutely huge right now and so your blood’s are transpor system it’s again what happen

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happened 12 hours ago um so what we do is if we wanted to really find out your blood what’s going on we’d have you fast drink a lot of water and then we’d have you eat a stabilized diet for an entire week and take blood samples from you for the entire week and then at that point we’d be able to tell you what’s going on in your blood but remember the Battle of all these free radicals that you just talked about their birth in the mitochondria where cells of the cells and but the battle literally takes place

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in the tissue of your skin your tissue of your skin is the largest organ in your body okay it’s it’s really where all the battle takes place and it takes about 16 weeks before a nutrient is going to be completely absorbed in your body we call it the maximum saturation number and so we can actually uh you know now detect this stuff and people stories that they have about how great their home remedy is or how great this nutrient is or this vitamin is you know we don’t know and for the first time

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ever on this Earth that we do now know and we we’ve got documentation to prove it so that’s pretty cool so let me restate that simply this is a machine that without any Invasion into your body without sending it away to Labs will give you a reading of your levels of body protection against these chronic degenerative diseases like cancer heart disease arteriosclerosis virtually any disease and do it without invading your body or causing you to have to cut off skin give you an immediate I aidea of how well your body

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is defending against these free radicals that’s a big thing it’s huge I mean you know Jason it’s it’s like we really think it’s going to be the greatest biomarker of all time yeah and you know just like cholesterol is a biomarker it’s very important to understand if you get your cholesterol underneath 150 your chances of having a heart attack or a stroke are slim to none you’d have to have some other acute issues going on in your body but we’ve been able to measure

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that and say that really you know strongly because we’ve been measuring it since 1948 well before I was born you know since 1948 they’ve been measuring millions of people and they’ve been tracking it so this is a brand new biomarker it’s one we don’t know what the numbers mean we just know there’s 30,000 Publications 30,000 white paper saying the higher the level of the antioxidant the less chance of disease now we’ve been here you’ve been on the island just a day and you’re leaving

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after tonight I’ve seen a lot of people get scanned at the gymnasium and up at a couple of different health food stores now I got a 22 ,500 reading I guess you’re somewhere up to like 50,000 or so that’s right and there are some all kinds of different things here on Maui we like to think we live a healthier lifestyle and you do do we more than other places you see that you know I saw Boulder Colorado kind of has the same mindset as Maui very health conscious and everything else and it’s a great

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respect to all you guys of the way you take care of yourself you know the interesting thing is the lowest numbers that we see is in an age group between 9 and 7 think about that kids are self-fed now Captain Crunch in the morning poptarts when they come home slab of meat for dinner give me some pop I’m going to bed so their numbers around the country are that’s the lowest group and here they have their their organs being developed you know for the rest of their lives and here they are at the worst nutritional

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point in their entire lives wow and so you know it’s pretty amazing and I’ll tell you these moms that bring their children in and get scanned they really start thinking rethinking that every time they go in that grocery store and they stick their hands on that shopping cart they’re making life and death decisions think about that life and death decisions when you’re I really know how significant it is that I got this score and these machines I guess are going to be lease to different

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people and uh health professionals so people be able to get their score I think it it really is significant to me that you’re able to track uh how your body is doing now your score I’m sure 50,000 you don’t live that differently than me as far as what you eat and whatever uh pharmanex I know has um a vitamin product that is not new on the market I guess what’s new is now you have actually a way to prove it to prove it that’s right that’s a big deal yeah well you think about you know

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one one great endorsement is you know the Olympic Committee um there’s eight products in the world that are endorsed by the Olympic Committee and we make all eight of them and that shoes more than 50% of the athletes the current athletes at Salt Lake and Athens worldwide the Olympic athletes are using our products more than 50% and that’s a huge endorsement when you think about that well you also think we’ve got 76 PhD formulators world renowned formulators we got guys like Lester Packer the most

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the most respected person on the globe in nutrition that’s now on our Advisory board he he was quoted on CNN money and he said that everyone should use a biopot onc scanner to get their to learn their body defense core and he tells you to eat your vitamin um to eat your fruits and vegetables to take your vitamins what an endorsement and how about James F balsh who’s the most widely read author of all times okay he wrote the almost like the Bible of nutrition exactly so he’s with you also

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he’s with us also so we are having a actually a big convention in Salt Lake City February 2122 where this was invented and we’re having all these leading scientists in the world to come in and talk about our products life pack we’re going to be talking about the scanner and we’re going to be talking about several of our other products we do clinicals on every one of our products and you know what there’s clinicals what does that mean a a clinical study would take one group of

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people over here they they give them a placebo have them eat one way and take this group over here and they’d have them eat another they eat the same exact way but they’d give them the real stuff and they would St study them don’t all products have to go through that no no nobody does and people won’t do it because it takes a year to two years to do it 100,000 5 $500,000 to do it so Nobody Does it so all the claims that people make are just claims based on their own well there’s some they pick

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some science over here they throw a product together and say voila here we have it because there’s been some studies done on some ingredient or whatever but we do on our actual products clinicals on all of them and that is absolutely huge and you got a supplement watch.com you go to consumerlab.com we’re rank the number one supplement in the world what’s the name of the product it’s called life pack life pack life that’s the thing that I’ve seen those little couple of packets of that’s right capsules and we

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design them for the bodies you know we have life pack women would be for some teenage girls and and women they’re you know in their 20s so one size doesn’t fit all one size does not fit all we have life pack teen we have these junges for little children we have life pack Prime for those of you that would be over 40 we have the normal life pack and we have a life pack trim as well and a life pack prenatal for for those that um would have that as a need so we have all these different types based on who they

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are so these life pack vitamins people take and then they come and get scanned again is that what’s been happening the great thing is every person that gets on our product they get in the mail every 60 days a free scan certificate so they can come and monitor this biomarker for the rest of their lives and the thing is you know Jason we control this worldwide for the next 17 years and two months 17 years we have an exclusive we we P paid a lot of money to the University of Utah to have an exclusive a monopoly and the

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University of Utah state of Utah actually owns the patents on there so two US patents six international patents uh for the next 17 years two months there was some mention of people I mean I don’t know who these people are Carl jassi andan K jasi is the guy that invented the birth control pill um Chi Wong is on the national advisory Council which is the next level before you get The Nobel Prize and we have 30 of the smartest guys in the world that are on our Advisory Board these the guys that

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created this product no they’re just on our Advisory Board who who are the people at the University well there’s three there’s basically four team of doctors the way I look at it we got the team of doctors that basically are from you know the Olympic Committee that say Hey you got the only products we’re going to endorse you got the team of doctors that we call the Beautiful Mind doctors like Lester Packer like Chi Wong like Carl jassi Beautiful Mind doct the Beautiful Mind doctors you mean the

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Ivory Tower theorists the ones that are off the charts then you have the 76 PhD doctors that work with us and then you have the group of doctors from the University of Utah um Medical Center the Moran Eye Center the Huntsman cancer research center and the physics department so this was actually As I understood discovered sort of accidentally right while they were working on something for macular degeneration of the eyes yeah age related macular Degen degeneration AMD and seven years ago the docs from the

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Moran Eye Center wanted to find out the ltin levels the zantin levels in the back of the macula where the yellow spot was and so they sent a light in there to detect those two catenoids and uh they were able to do it this sister product is licensed by the FDA because they’re making claims they’re making recommendations and everything else and uh this product was accidentally discovered on a big 12ft table by 6 feet and there was a lady that was getting her PhD and her finger was in the scanner and and they got a reading in

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the tissue now they thought this was an act of God now think about that for a minute this might sound a little bit over dramatic but if I poke you right here in your arm it’s not a big deal but I take that same intensity and poke it in your eye that would really hurt your eyes is 100 times more sensitive than the tissue of your skin and so yeah it was extremely dramatic excuse me a second welcome in you’re welcome in we have a visitor here we actually have another representative from phinex

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who runs the biophotonic scanner we’ll have him join us in a minute please come on down sit and relax a minute um now when you get to meet NAIA now you want to come sit in here with us NAIA who’s just joining us was at a a local store giving people on Maui an opportunity to get the biophotonic scanner uh test on them thank you for joining us here a lot Jason appreciate you for inviting us you know we bring these guys to Maui we have to treat them to some Aloha spirit so I brought them in here to the the TV station when you

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see them on the street these two beautiful faces I want you to give them a special Aloha because they’ve come this long way you may not really realize it yet but this is such a rare thing for us on Maui to get something that’s in its prototype stages something of this importance um how do we get you back here I mean I know that people are going to want want to get their scan and get their number a lot plenty of sushi don’t you think exactly massages masses lots of beach action facial too yeah and then

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then we come back that’s it that’s all you got to do for us we can do that what do you let’s make a plan what you guys think okay um you know I I would like to give you an opportunity maybe you can describe this biophotonic scanner to our audience while laon did a good job but I know you’re on there on the pulse what do you find about the people of Maui Maui is great I think um you know if you look at the demographic I’ve always um you know scan a lot of agents and you know had a lot of contact with them and

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we just did a um meeting in Torrance California and then we scan probably average of 30,000 to 40,000 which was pretty high and I was amazed that people here are very health conscious as well and their score was about 25,000 to 35,000 as an average r you’re normally finding what um you know over in Utah uh we did a scan last week in you know Gold’s Gym and it was running kind of low you know a lot of um sub below 10,000 wow so see you don’t know what these scores mean I guess we’re all sort of learning about them

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but 10,000 means your body has a very low defense against the creation of these free radicals right so I thought it was interesting when you shared that people people that work out and that have exercise create free radicals through that process so they may not realize that they’re actually breaking down their body’s defense score and that they need an appropriate supplement to bring their defense up well they could actually be drop dead gorgeous you know they could be really beautiful people

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really in great shapes what happens is when your body is really working out really hard is Ravishing the body from all the nutrients to have it you know replenish itself so so if a person is really working out a lot they really need to be taking major supplementation to go through and have their body replenished from all the nutrients is taking and stealing from its workout I see so the more you work out the more free radicals the more you should be taking supplementation all right what kind of things do you think that our

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audience um I we’re in a very unusual situation here because I know that people are going to want to get their defense score you know and uh see what they’re number is but uh I imagine they can look closely at the life pack product that’s very significant to me that the I was going to say the United Nations the Olympics um all your products all our farm andex products are are the only ones ever endorsed by the Olympics that’s major yeah nutritional right that is that’s huge wow now this

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company phinex I I only know of them recently as we’ve had communication about them can you give us an idea about their background and how they started sure do you want me to do it or you want to do it you’re doing a great job six years ago we can be heard yeah yeah I’m good okay six years ago there was um individual by the name of Michael Chang who was head of Merc R&D Department he started a company with a guy by the name of Joseph Chang who was at John Hopkins University and John Hopkins University

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obviously is one of the top medical schools and he invented the drug that everybody uses for organ transplants those two guys got together and raised $46 million out of San Francisco and created what they call phinex and within 18 months they were in 39,000 locations now no one else has ever done that before but they were able to do that because of who they were because they were world renowned guys I see and so our company purchased farmex four years ago for about 135 million and they got two things for that for 135 Million

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number one to pull off all their Products off of these 39,000 locations right and their intellectual property their knowledge now think about that $135 million for intellectual property so we actually have um basically three mangor labs and another one that we do collaborates with we have a 38 million do facility in Provo Utah we have math spectrometers gas spectrometers several hlc’s which really is important for doing research so we have an R&D um lab in in Provo Utah we have another um R&D

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lab in Shanghai and Beijing we have a clinical we also have another Lab at UCLA because we do collaborates with UCLA Stanford tus Harvard and Berkeley which is absolutely huge now Berkeley is where uh Lester Packer is Berkeley is where Lester Packer is and they have this thing called the Packer lab and again Lester Packer being the formost authority in the world um you know is totally endorsing our product and what this whole bios scan is all about your company bought pharmanex and took their product out of

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the stores I guess you have a different marketing approach is that why well we we felt that you know nutrition is needs to be communicated you know we need to educate people on it they don’t most people don’t know what antioxidants are in fact if you went to Google an internet you know search engine and you pulled up cancer you’d find 12.1 million hits you pull up um cholesterol you find 1.9 million hits but you pull up free radicals you found about 135,000 hits or antioxidants about 400,000 hits so

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everybody seems to focus on the diseases rather than what causes the disease and what prevents it and so when our moms have told us to eat our fruits and vegetables when we were little kids this machine really becomes the ultimate veggie reader or maybe meat reader it’s our lie detector it tells us whether we’ve been good or bad huh good or bad exactly naughty or nice you can’t fake it out well on Maui we’re going to try to bring our scores up I know that we like to think of oursel as a very health

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conscious Sports minded you know a place for we have beautiful and incredible fruits and vegetables I hope and sushi bar by the way and massage place lots of massage but um we have beautiful produce so we could all be living uh well here and eating well and uh taking something I really like the fact that you can measure your progress to me that’s really a terrific thing right I don’t think though that it matters whether you’re on the um the meter or not I mean I started taking this product someone

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introduced it to me about a month ago and uh so I didn’t get my raw score of before but I didn’t think that mattered I thought that it’s important to take a product that’ll do good for my system because I can only get better you know this isn’t sort of to me a thing of oh this one has 30 36,000 I only have 22 or someone has 14 this is really our own individual uh process to make ourselves stronger and better and that’s that’s what I think um this scanner is it going to be available widely soon yeah we’re

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we’re actually launching this in Salt Lake City February 2122 so can we all get them can we anybody can get them because we’re not making medical claims but you know what this just remember this this is a biomarker this is one biomarker it’s a very important biomarker but it’s one biomarker we’re still suggesting that you exercise that you eat your fruits and vegetables that you do the common sense things but we’re also knowing the value of this biomarker you know we’re not saying to try to just

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go and Spike it with these certain um you know ingredients or whatever we’re we’re we got 65 antioxidants in our life pack 65 and again we’re majoring the largest window of antioxidants which which is your catenoids and and it’s very very important to every one of us to know what those numbers are and again the first time we’re able to able to do it but the answer is yeah we hope to get the world their number our mission and our cause is to get the world their number and maintain it okay this

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database is going to be a fantastic tool for medical research to be able to determine in the future at least as I see it how um resistant we are to different diseases that we’ve all taken for granted that you know when you think that heart disease and cancer are the two leading causes of death in our country and when you realize that if it’s so that antioxidants are a mark to be able to prevent these things this is going to change our world as we know it change our lifespans as we know it um I am very

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very pleased that you took the time to be here with us on Maui and also on our show well thank you and we’re so excited about coming back to Maui aren’t we hey thanks a lot next week next week now the truth is we’d like to get some scanners here on Maui and have people see about the life pack product I’m going to put some website addresses up so people be able to look on the web and discover about this what things would you like to share about uh the product or the scanner that you think is

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important for our audience to know at this point I know my thought before I get there is you’ve only seen people at a few spots and who knows who’s heard of about this before you got here I mean I haven’t seen have you seen very many Hawaiians I don’t think so no just a few right so there’s a lot of people that haven’t been scanned that really may not be that healthy group I know the different types of people here eat in a different way and I really think this may be one of the greatest potential

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solutions for people that really would like to improve their health and really understand and begin to to um start their diet and their vitamin plants I mean you know another thing I’m jumping in I’m gonna let them speak I promise the American Medical Association said that all adults all adults not some all adults need to take a multivitamin yeah that’s a big change this is a major Paradigm Shift uh for 30 years the doctors the medical doctors have said that we do not need to take nutritional supplments then June 19th

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20022 the jamama Journal of American Medical Association came out and said that every adult needs to be on a multivitamin every adult and that’s because they did a little study of 21,500 people and not one of them was getting the minimum rdas in their body not even one we’ve talked on our show sometimes about how the soils have been depleted and a lot of things that we get in our grocery stores it may look like a carrot but if you really look at it closely under uh close scrutiny find that it doesn’t have the nutrients that

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it once did many of us sort of fool ourselves into thinking that the food that we eat is going to be all that it takes and well the interesting thing our grandfathers if they ate one orange back when they were kids we’d have to eat eight oranges today to have the same nutrients that that one orange was when our grandfathers were doing it wow you know unless you’ve got some way to create it organically and in Maui there’s a lot of places that you can go do that that but you know we Mass

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produce it we put throw the pesticides on it and as a result the nutrients are not getting to us I mean I saw that list of foods these guys had a a piece of paper that showed a list of te’s and this and 12 oranges and this and then to get one supplement of vitamins right so basically it’s virtually impossible to do this these days based on sunlight creates free radicals stress none of us know stress hey Jason I didn’t tell you the higher the number the better looking you are and I made that up cuz my

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number’s always really high oh so you can get better looking oh yeah can you imagine that you’ll be you’ll be a complete chick magnet is that why your scores are so low no I’m just kidding no the truth is like I said I’m happy to know my score so that I can score myself in the future and know how I’m improving because to me it’s health is a personal thing right you know it is different kinds of people have different levels in their own system of defense against things so I’m

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just really thrilled and to know that this kind of thing exists I know is a tremendous breakthrough something that I thought was worthy of coming into the studio and sitting with these two guys now I’m going to shut up and ask you to for a moment think of something that you would like to impart to our audience that um we may not have touched on you think is important know you well coming from from the inside of the company I get to see many different things okay and not just what’s out on the field but what’s

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internally what’s going on not only people out here are excited about scanner people internally are excited okay so you’re not a new company so you’ve been this is a new thing I guess exactly so which makes us hey you know this is something new you know we have a niche in the market we need to go out and support every you know sales rep out there that’s why we do everything that we can to support you guys and support the people out there to have better health Better Living quality of life

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that’s a great thing I bet uh everyone would like to know that there companies out there committed to you know generating a better quality life and can prove it now huh right and those guys up up in upper management they’re so great um I’ve never worked for a company that has a better moral you know I don’t think um you couldn’t really describe a word for it because it have such a great morals you know they’re not there to make profit or anything they want you to have a great health um great living life

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and a successful life and to be so that you can be with your family more live with your family a lot longer well you know before I let you speak again I happen to know Lon was already retired but came out of retirement because he recognized that this was was an opportunity for him to share he was already into health and now he can share it even more widely I really appreciate you you know being there for us because I know that it takes leaders and people that have the enthusiasm to get out there and your uh marketing style and

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your personal style I know it’s been very appreciated here on Maui thank you and very much appreciated by me thank you now let me hear what you got to say well you know there’s we have a real cause here you know our company again it’s little motto is a Force for good but there’s a whole another dimension here that I want to bring up to all of you out there and to hear in your hearts we have another part of the company is called nourish the children and we’re going out and nourishing and we are

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feeding the um Orphans of the world all these children that are dying all around the world every eight seconds some little child dies that’s under the age of eight somewhere in the world and we are actually going out and feeding those young children and I hope you become part of our cods there I mean we want you to get the world their number and we want you to go get all your family their number but we hope that you can join in our cause of feeding the hungry children of the world that your heart and your

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back pockets can go out and help do that as well and I think we will change the world in a lot of good ways and we’re we’re starting we’re going doing research on EV that’s where these little children’s skin fall right off to their body they get rubbed up in their skin just Falls right off they have to literally be wrapped around their entire body and so there’s some really interesting disease es that we’re going out and trying to and we’re putting money millions of dollars into to go out

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and and do good for the world out there so you know I hope that you have a big heart I hope that you’re interested in your health and interested in your children’s health and your family’s health and your friends if you really care for people you’ll get them their number and if you really are beyond your box and and go out of your box and realize there’s people around the globe that are starving these poor children that are innocent that are so wanting and and so just need a little love and

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in our little love we can do by just um having like a $40 a month going and feeding SE several children a month so that’s a nice thing so it’s I guess it’s nice to know that you’re dealing I feel comfortable that we’re dealing with people that are sincere and really are interested in giving that’s kind of our motto and mission statement here you know you guys haven’t been exposed too much to me but um I run an organization called The Dream Makers Foundation which here locally is known as Mama Maui Arts

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and Music Association supporting Visual Arts Healing Arts music culture and educating people about Environmental Solutions that’s Mama it’s also known as Papa people aligned in positive action and we’re flowing along the same path and that’s very encouraging and good it it is really a pleasure now you’ve been telling people to go out and get their number but they’re going to have to probably check the website and such and see where they might get their number in different cities for a few months until

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these scanners are available but uh just just go to our website gotyou number.com go t y rum spelled out.com right and go to meeting schedules and you’ll know where we are somewhere in United States and can and if you’re here on Maui I’ll be uh sharing with you and you’re always welcome to contact us you can see all those numbers see you can’t see them now but later there are going to be all kinds of numbers on there and I’m going to have uh pictures of some of the SU sushi bars you guys have frequented

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good right in two days how many do you hit a whole bunch of them one just one you’ve been back to the same one twice no just once oh well we don’t eat I think you don’t give us time to eat yeah your reputation has preceded you I lost 30 pounds while I’m here I told you Mau is a good health plan it’s a great place definitely um I know that you guys are busy and everyone is wanting you back out there to to give them your their number so I’m going to end it N I appreciate you joining apprciate Jason

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and uh lon l wardr nalia and Lon it has been a great pleasure I hope we can do this again sometime we will we will thanks Jason thanks thank you guys for joining us any questions anything you want you can just get in touch with us it’s been a pleasure to have you with us and I hope that you recognize the greatest or purportedly the greatest biomarker of our age while we’re alive the bio photonic scanner thank you for sharing it with us thank you thanks aloha aloha aloha [Laughter] Mahalo you ready to get scanned sure all

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