
[00:06 → 02:41] Opening Song and Personal Reflection
The singer reflects on a long life of performing before large audiences but now sings intimately for a loved one, expressing vulnerability and affection. The lyrics emphasize themes of love, personal transformation, and the deep connection between the singer and the listener, reinforced by the melody as a vessel of hidden emotions.
- [03:13 → 04:53] Welcome and Introduction to Event at Maui Arts and Cultural Center
The host welcomes viewers to the Maui Arts and Cultural Center, highlighting an exciting show featuring fabulous cars under a clear Maui sky. The event is praised for having knowledgeable and authentic judges who appreciate the craftsmanship and purpose behind the vehicles, distinguishing them from superficial or purely aesthetic car shows.
The host expresses enthusiasm about the street rides and head-model cars, emphasizing the event’s genuine appreciation for automotive culture.
- [05:21 → 07:39] Interspersed Musical and Vocal Expressions

A brief segment of musical interludes and repeated vocal phrases follows, including a recurring line “I’ll come to you tonight,” conveying an emotional or artistic expression. These segments serve as atmospheric fillers, blending music and mood without detailed narrative content. - [09:29 → 12:33] Audience Reactions and Personal Stories about Cars
The conversation shifts to audience excitement about the car show, with expressions of desire for particular vehicles. A participant proudly identifies as a “Motor City mama” from Detroit, expressing deep love for cars and an appreciation for the variety on display. The dialogue touches on personal preferences and nostalgia, including a humorous exchange about differing opinions on car choices and the thrill of potentially driving any car of one’s choice, reflecting the celebratory and communal spirit of the event.
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Custom Motorcycle and Artistic Expression
A participant shares the story of how their custom motorcycle came to be, starting from frustration with a poorly functioning bike that was gradually deconstructed and creatively rebuilt. This process evolved into an artistic passion blending craftsmanship and mechanical creativity. The bike’s unique, almost gothic aesthetic is noted, adding a layer of personal identity and artistic statement to the mechanical object. - [16:30 → 17:51] Renewable Energy Advocacy and Maui’s Future
A speaker discusses the growing motorcycle and automobile show as a platform not just for entertainment but to promote ideas about renewable energy, specifically using sugar cane as an energy source instead of burning it wastefully in fields. The emphasis is on creating and preserving jobs while bringing innovative energy solutions to Maui before expanding them globally. The speaker underscores the importance of protecting Maui’s natural beauty and expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share these ideas with the community. - [17:51 → 19:55] Interview with Charlie Silver on Custom Vehicle Exhibition
Charlie Silver, the organizer of the fifth annual custom motorcycle and hot rod exhibition, explains the event’s origins dating back to 1991. He highlights the community nature of the fair, the reasonable cost, and the high quality of the vehicles and entertainment. Silver notes the surprise that many owners invest heavily in their cars despite financial struggles elsewhere, reflecting a deep passion for automotive culture. Personal favorites include Studebakers and Avanti models, connecting the exhibition to personal histories and broader appreciation for classic cars. The interview closes with encouragement for broader community participation and plans for increased publicity. - [19:55 → 25:41] Introduction to Dr. Brian O’Leary and Free Energy Discussion
Dr. Brian O’Leary, an author and advocate for free energy technologies, is introduced alongside artist Meredith Miller. O’Leary shares his journey over the past three years visiting inventors worldwide who are pioneering free energy devices as alternatives to polluting oil, fossil fuels, and nuclear power. His book, Miracle in the Void, explores both the coming energy revolution and the necessary consciousness shift to embrace these technologies. O’Leary explains the concept of free energy based on principles like the zero-point field, an electromagnetic energy pervasive throughout space, which can be tapped through specific magnetic configurations. He mentions contemporary innovators,
including Shuji Inamata and Paramahansa Tiwari, who blend conventional engineering with free energy inventions. The discussion emphasizes the potential for a paradigm shift that could replace multi-trillion-dollar industries with clean, abundant energy sources, contingent on public openness and scientific validation.
- [25:41 → 30:26] Meredith Miller on Art, Spiritual Partnership, and Earth Healing
Meredith Miller introduces their spiritual partnership with Brian O’Leary, describing their mission to heal the Earth and human patterns through blending art and science. They envision Maui as a prototype “laboratory” for global healing, a place where paradise can be preserved amidst global environmental crises such as pollution, global warming, and ozone depletion. Miller stresses the importance of bonded communities for collective healing and higher purpose, citing scientific experiments showing enhanced psychic effects in bonded couples. Their artistic work, including paintings centered on water and healing, symbolizes emotional and planetary renewal. They advocate for a return to simplicity and unity through love and collective consciousness, positioning Maui as a beacon for this transformative vision. - [30:26 → 33:47] Kamapua’a Press and Vision for Creative Environmental Advocacy
The couple discusses founding Kamapua’a Press, a publishing venture dedicated to spreading information on free energy, ecological awareness, and cultural renewal through various media including books, posters, and calendars. The Hawaiian mythological figure Kamapua’a symbolizes the blending of forces to protect and nurture the land, serving as a metaphor for their mission against greed and environmental destruction. Their outreach seeks to inspire creativity and dialogue about history, pollution, and solutions, emphasizing art and science as tools for co-creation. O’Leary’s book Miracle in the Void is presented as a key resource for understanding the new energy paradigm and the societal changes required to realize it on a global scale. - [36:47 → 50:17] Interview with Dr. Glenn Olds on Maui’s Role in the 21st Century
Dr. Glenn Olds, an experienced university president and futurist, discusses Maui’s significance as a cultural and intellectual crossroads of the Pacific in the 21st century. He advocates for intellectual and cultural integration between Alaska and Maui, emphasizing the Pacific region’s growing global importance. Olds reflects on his efforts to develop innovative educational programs blending Eastern and Western cultures with practical work-study models, particularly in hotel and restaurant management, leveraging tourism as a sustainable economic driver. He stresses the inseparability of environment and human development, warning that ignoring ecological needs leads to inevitable consequences. Olds shares a personal anecdote about patience in gardening as a metaphor for education and societal growth, advocating for nurturing roots without destructive interference. He envisions Maui as a think tank for the future, integrating space, sea, and self as frontiers of exploration and development.
- [46:13 → 49:50] World Federalist Association and Call for Global Cooperation
Olds recounts his role as a U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and his involvement with the World Federalist Association, advocating for a federation of states to effectively address global challenges beyond the capability of individual nations. He highlights the need for collective action on peace, trade, and environmental care, emphasizing that natural forces transcend political borders. Despite personal health challenges, Olds remains committed to raising funds and building support for this vision, particularly emphasizing Hawaii’s symbolic role as a multicultural bridge. He calls for committed supporters to financially back efforts for global governance and sustainability.
- [50:35 → 52:08] Closing Musical Segment
The transcript closes with a musical segment featuring a rhythmic, upbeat song celebrating “Friday” and the sound of money sustaining the island’s greenery, blending themes of economic vitality and cultural energy. Additional lyrics evoke the imagery of running horses and magical moments, reinforcing themes of freedom, connection, and joyful expression.
- [53:00 → 58:01] Final Reflections and Musical Closing
The final portion returns to a more introspective musical expression, with lyrics emphasizing mystical and magical moments of love and connection, inviting the listener to join in walking together through these experiences. The repetition and gradual build of the song create an emotional climax, ending with energetic calls to action and celebration.
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- Core Concepts and Themes
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- Love and Connection: The opening and closing musical segments emphasize intimate, heartfelt connections as foundational human experiences.
- Cultural Celebration: The Maui Arts and Cultural Center event highlights community engagement through cars and motorcycles, blending art, craft, and personal stories.
- Innovation and Sustainability: The discussion with Brian O’Leary centers on revolutionary free energy technologies and the necessary consciousness shift to embrace them, aiming to replace polluting energy systems.
- Art and Spirituality: Meredith Miller’s contributions underscore the role of art as a healing and unifying force, advocating for collective spiritual bonding to address planetary crises.
- Education and Future Vision: Dr. Glenn Olds presents a vision for Maui as a hub of integrated education, cultural exchange, and sustainable development, linking environment, economy, and human growth.
- Global Cooperation: The World Federalist Association’s goals reflect the need for new political frameworks to manage global challenges collaboratively.
- Balance of Economy and Ecology: The interplay between economic vitality (tourism, funding) and environmental stewardship is a recurring theme, emphasizing that human prosperity depends on ecological health.
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Maui, custom motorcycles, hot rod exhibition, renewable energy, sugar cane, free energy, zero-point field, consciousness revolution, art and science, spiritual partnership, environmental healing, Kamapua’a Press, tourism, education, Pacific region, World Federalist Association, global governance, sustainability, ecological preservation, cultural integration.
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Q: What is the primary focus of Brian O’Leary’s work?
A: Brian O’Leary focuses on free energy technologies as clean alternatives to fossil fuels and nuclear power, combined with a consciousness revolution to embrace these new paradigms.
Q: How does Meredith Miller contribute to the mission?
A: Meredith Miller integrates art and spirituality, promoting healing and bonding among people to support ecological and social transformation.
Q: What role does Maui play in the vision presented?
A: Maui is envisioned as a prototype or laboratory for global healing and innovation, combining natural beauty, cultural diversity, and new energy initiatives.
Q: What educational innovations did Dr. Glenn Olds propose?
A: Olds proposed integrated, non-traditional university programs combining work and study, blending Eastern and Western cultures, with a focus on sustainability and tourism.
Q: What is the World Federalist Association’s goal?
A: To create a federation of states that can effectively govern global issues such as peacekeeping, trade, and environmental protection beyond national limitations.
This comprehensive summary synthesizes the diverse content of the transcript into a structured narrative aligned with the original thematic progression.
Transcript
03:13
Hi. Aloha. Welcome to the Maui Arts and Cultural Center. It’s a great pleasure to be here. We have a great show today, don’t we? Yes, we do. Fabulous cars. Oh, well, let’s go in.
03:43
Look at this beautiful Maui sky. Not a cloud in it.
04:18
Oh, yeah. You know what I like about this is that Charlie’s put on a show where he’s got some right-on-righteous judges that know what they’re doing and what they’re talking about. Not these sketchy, sketchy men. Oh, I like these street rides, or I like these street cars, or I like these head-model cars. They don’t have any purpose. They’re just looking at it for what they’re looking at.
04:53
I want to walk home To no particular destination I want to try home
05:21
When I got the information that I want to do I’m gonna take a little break and try to pass away and still be sure I’m out on the road, I’ll be there in a minute
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06:41
Yeah! You know that I’ve got to
07:10
I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight. I’ll come to you tonight.
07:39
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08:09
so so
08:51
Bye.
09:29
Yeah! Woo! I don’t want to do as much as this in a little bit. Hey, did you see that? I want that. I want that. I want that.
10:01
We were born real men We were born real men We were born real men
10:45
Thank you.
11:15
You don’t know how long that lasted.
11:46
It’s fabulous. I’m from Detroit. I’m a Motor City mama. I love the car. I love the car. I like all of them. It’s fabulous. And you’re on balance, right? Yeah.
12:06
Yep. He hates mine. Oh, not at all. No. As long as I can see nice old cars like this, I’m fine. I don’t miss Detroit in the least bit. No, no, no, no. I have no idea. It’s probably pretty bad. Actually, yeah. I will. I am.
12:33
You do? Fabulous. I want to come out. If you could just arrange for me to drive off in the car of my choice, it’d be a fabulous day. You may take any car and tell him it’s on me. I will. Okay, I will. I’m going to tell him. We’re going to talk. We’re going to talk.
13:09
Thank you.
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14:01
Well, sure. You know, it’s kind of funny. This whole thing happened by default. And it’s because I bought an old bike that was such a lemon that every time I rode it, it broke.
14:21
So I slowly took things off, and I had to do things. And then maybe 5% of the way through that frustration, I said, oh, never mind. And I took the whole thing apart. And now this is kind of what it became, right? And then seeing that I could do anything that I wanted and reading all the magazines and kind of being in love with it as an art form and being the craftsman that I am in the jewelry thing, I kind of went for it. And here it is, right?
14:48
This looks like it could be Dracula’s car With a telephone, of course Excuse me
15:28
Wow.
16:00
Thank you.
16:30
and better and more and more people come out and share motorcycle and automobile show i’m going to stay out there putting out good ideas about renewable energy and how to use the sugar cane to create energy instead of burning it out in the fields ways to keep jobs create more jobs and bring the ideas here to maui
16:56
Before we bring them to the rest of the world, we have a need for these kind of things out here. I appreciate the opportunity to come and talk to you all. We have a beautiful place, Maui. Let’s keep it, Nokoi.
17:36
Thank you.
17:51
My great pleasure. We’re here with Charlie Silver. We call this the sixth? Fifth. Fifth annual.
18:07
a custom motorcycle and hot rod exhibition. You’ll see when you look around here, an incredible display of vehicles. How did this all get started? Well, it started just like using one of those tools. I knew some people wanted to exhibit their vehicles. I just kind of got some people to get into the field and do along the road back in 1991.
18:30
Well, you know, this is the kind of thing that if people knew it was here, that’s why we’re going to show it on TV. If people, if you guys knew that this was here, even more of you would be coming out. In fact, we’re going to probably work out a plan here so that next year we’ll have some kind of giveaway special.
18:47
that we can tie together with this. Good deal. That’s OK. This is a real community type of fair. It sure is. And the price is reasonable, and the entertainment is good. It’s just something to get everybody together. And I’ll tell you, some of these cars here are incredible. Well, some of the people have a lot of money in this country. Oh, I see. I was wondering. They can’t pay their rent, but boy, they have nice cars.
19:08
Do you have a favorite or a couple of favorites we can go look at? Nah. They’re all favorites. They’re all favorites. He’s a politician, not me. No, no, no, no, no. But I’m going to chirp in and say my favorites were the Studebakers, the Avanti, and the truck because the first car I ever drove was a 1960 Studebaker Lark.
19:27
So it was wonderful to see him. I want to thank you for not only being here with us, but for bringing this show to the island. And I hope that next year even more of you come out here. In fact, I can guarantee you we’re going to be showing some of this show on a couple of times through the year just to make sure you’re ready for it. Aloha.
19:55
Right on. Thank you, Jason. My great pleasure. Thank you for participating. I appreciate it. Aloha. Aloha. Aloha. This is Jason of Mama Presents. We have someone here for a coming attraction. This is Dr. Brian O’Leary. You may know him from this book, Miracle in the Void. Brian is going to be on, and we’re going to do a fairly extensive interview with Brian, and also we’re going to bring on his wonderful lady, a talented artist, Meredith Miller, and she’ll be on.
20:25
with Arielle, so looking forward to that show. Brian, why don’t you give us a couple of thoughts? Well, hi, Jason, and thanks for coming. I just wanted to say that a couple of things that Meredith and I have been here in Maui now for about eight months, and we just love it here. We truly realize it’s our home.
20:45
And part of the context of what I want to mention that will be on the show is that Meredith and I are gathering a group of people here on the islands for a number of purposes, but mainly
20:58
to help the earth to bring us into the 21st century with some sort of sanity to create energy sources that are true alternatives to the polluting oil and fossil fuels and nuclear power we now have my life over the past three years has been primarily dedicated to traveling the world and visiting inventors of free energy devices and there’s no question in my mind that it’s a technology this time has come and which can supplant the
21:28
the very polluting oil industry that we have. And so the book that I just wrote, Miracle in the Void, is all about the coming energy revolution. But it’s also about the process that we all need to go through to be able to envision this new future, which is nothing less than a full-blown consciousness revolution. So that’s what we’ll be talking about. So you integrate science and consciousness in the book.
21:56
I integrate science, consciousness, free energy. I talk about some of the basic principles behind it. But also I talk about the process that we all have to go through to embrace this new technology, because it is so
22:09
revolutionary. It’s going to totally change the way we do things industrially, for example, because now the two trillion dollar per year oil and nuclear industry no longer exist. That sounds good to me. You know, I’m sure you don’t know that my background, I came to Maui bringing solar energy concentrators. That was my thought, and I found resistance from the powers that be. I think it’s new and
22:36
I’m glad to hear there’s free energy systems coming in, even better. Well, free energy is a concept that needs to be described, of course, and it does have a description. It’s a concept that has been totally alien to most physicists. It’s been a great gross oversight since the time of, actually, Faraday in the early 19th century, who came up with a wheel that produced unusual amounts of electricity, a wheel with magnets on it.
23:03
And later we found a number of inventors, contemporary inventors, have found time and time again that if you rotate a wheel of magnets with a certain kind of configuration of magnets, then that wheel reaches a certain critical velocity.
23:19
then unusual energy starts to be created. The principle behind that, according to now some mainstream physicists who are coming forward, Hal Puthoff, Bernie Hache, and so forth, the concept is called the zero-point field. It’s an all-pervasive electromagnetic field that fills every point of space, is the same everywhere, and behaves the same in all directions. So therefore it’s virtually undetectable.
23:44
And now what’s happening is that we find that we can stimulate that field and extract energy from it by certain configurations of electromagnetic forces. And so, even though we’ve known this since the 19th century, it hasn’t been acknowledged by enough people to create enough critical mass to become implemented socially. But nowadays, we have, for example, Shuji Inamata from Japan, who is coming and visiting us here in Maui soon.
24:14
He’s a free energy inventor. Well, actually, an engineer who replicated an invention. And Inamata and Paramahansa Tiwari, who’s the chief project engineer of, believe it or not, India’s largest nuclear power plant. And he moonlights by creating free energy devices. He moonlights. Right. So all of these people, there are people all over the world producing free energy devices.
24:44
Good Morning America about a week ago had Patterson Fuel Cell. That one really excited me. Right. So, and that’s, by the way, that’s a commercial prototype of a, basically it’s based on cold fusion technology, but it’s not really cold fusion. It’s a technology which can lead to free energy. And this device produces something like 20 times more heat energy than goes into it initially.
25:12
So these are the kinds of devices that are, we’re right around the corner to developing these devices. It’s about time, isn’t it? It’s perfect time, I guess. Right. And yet, like you’re saying, we all have to be open in the right frame of mind to be able to embrace these technologies and pull away from what’s been so traditional. And I’m looking forward to more of our conversation. Great. You’re going to watch it too, I’m sure.
25:41
We’re going to have a change here, and I’m going to jump on the camera and bring in Meredith Miller. Okay. Okay, my spiritual partner. Aloha. Well, hi, Mayor. Here we are. Perhaps you wondered why we’ve gathered you here today. We’re bonding. We’re a couple bonding, and we’ve come home to Maui to find our mission.
26:10
which has to do with the earth and with healing ourselves and our patterns, our parents’ patterns through us to come together and forgive and then to, as a bonded spiritual partnership, to make a difference. And so we have found an alchemy of art and science. So Brian brings to Gaia or Earth’s Table the gift of science and of his path. So we’re a blending
26:38
And it’s time to all blend and come together. And that’s what we want to share about. And part of what all of this is about is Maui being a laboratory or a prototype for the rest of the world as paradise, as heaven on earth. And we still have heaven on earth here. But much of the earth is being gobbled up by greed and by pollution and irreversible, seemingly irreversible global warming and ozone holes and so forth.
27:06
in order to solve these problems, we’re going to have to do more than we’ve done so far. It seems like existing political systems are totally ineffective at that. And so part of what Meredith and I are about is to
27:18
help spearhead an effort toward bringing people together here on the island as a gathering place, as a round table, if you will, or a tribal gathering of people wanting to bond, wanting to bond in the sense of, well, for example, a recent scientific experiment using random event generators. These are the little black boxes that tell you what your psychic powers are to affect a result in the material world.
27:46
And they found at Princeton University, one of my alma maters, that bonded couples do six times better than people as individuals at affecting the results of the random event generator. So these are the kinds of experiments that lead us to believe
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that coming together in bonded groups and surrendering to the higher purpose, or the higher will, that this earth be a clean and wonderful place to live, a Garden of Eden, that this is really what we want, and we can have it, but we can have it only if we come together in bonded groups. And so Meredith’s expression on this as an artist, for example,
28:25
this painting here, which is sometimes called the, what is the latest on that? It’s about water and about the healing waters that now have to do with healing. And as all of us, as the first man,
28:41
The example of all men, Maui man here immerses his inner child into the waters of feeling, into those waters of the heart as others come together in that release through Pele’s beat of our earth song now to help us to return to that place of simpleness where we all can bond in the waters of our love.
29:04
And so this painting is my own flow into the blending of linking to the earth and acknowledging that gift she gives to us through the waters of our own making. And because we are a water, we are seeing now that so much is flowing and releasing. And this is the great time of family healing.
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And from all the kingdoms we come together, from the angelic, from the fairy, from the goddess, from the earth, from the feminine comes now the great wave, the wave that will bring us home, home to our heart’s dream. And our dream here is that this Eden, this heart of Maui, is the home from which the great message can be given back.
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to our mother earth that we do love her and we appreciate now all she’s given and it’s time to give back.
29:56
Yeah, that’s a remarkable vision, and that’s the kind of vision that we would like to implement here as Maui’s laboratory. We have many friends around the world who would love to come and join our roundtable. By our, I don’t mean just Meredith’s and mine, I mean all of us. We’re dropping a drop in the bucket of that cauldron that is love. We’re just a part of the overall effort in bonded groups and creating various networks and hubs of communication and
30:26
that we can truly use science and art to create a vision for a beautiful planet Earth. The pollution that we’re seeing now is such a serious problem, and it’s one that just deeply reaches Meredith’s and my hearts. We just moved here from Ashland, Oregon, and we saw what logging has done to the beautiful primary and secondary forests of Oregon.
30:49
And now here we are in Maui, seeing our island also being threatened by overdevelopment. However, I think that the bigger global questions are what we want to address is what are the root causes and what are the solutions? Well, the solutions will come.
31:06
in part from co-creation from visionary art and science, which provide the symbols and the methodology for coming up with solutions. And that’s this group that we’re talking about, this gathering, these events that we’re going to be creating.
31:22
Over the next several years, our commitment really is to help the Earth through having events and publications. We just founded a publishing company here called Kamapua’a Press, and that will facilitate the publication of some of the books in this field of free energy and also in the ecology movement.
31:47
And by the way, it’s called Kamapua’a because Kamapua’a is the Hawaiian peg god. He’s the one that stood up to Pele and
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united with Pele to create the beautiful green earth that’s in front of us. But this is the Lapis Pig, who’s the quintessence of greed. I use him as an example. Here he is. I also have a Muppet, but that’s for some other appearance of the Lapis Pig. He represents everything that’s antithetical to what’s really needed for the earth.
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Part of our purpose is through entertainment, through art, through music, through books and lithographs and posters and calendars, the Kama’a Press will become a vehicle for spreading the word through the internet, through all of these different hubs of communication. But just as important is that we want to encourage others to be creative, to ask the larger questions about what is the broad sweep of history now? What are we up against?
32:51
What is the extent of the pollution? What are the solutions? And this is exactly what we’re up to these days. Meredith, I’m standing here behind the camera. I guess you guys in there know that. And I’m not on screen. And we’ve done a pretty healthy promo here, but we haven’t shown Brian’s book. I think we should show the people. Hey, there we are. That’s Miracle in the Void. How long has the book been out, Brian?
33:19
It’s been out for a few months, and actually it’s officially going to be out a couple of months from now. And we’re going into a second printing, and it’s obvious it’s been favorably reviewed by many of the senior people, scientists in the new energy field, as well as folks like Whitley Streber and Dennis Weaver and others. So this book, we now have major national distribution. We’ll be able to have them in the bookstores, do the whole national television thing.
33:47
Well, I know that by the time I get on with you guys again, I’m going to have read the book, and so I’ll have some fun questions to ask. People that I know that have read it have really, really appreciated the book, and I’m sure that some of the people that are out here on the screen are going to take this chance also, so that when we watch, they’ll see if I read the book and I know what to ask.
34:10
Well, it’s a book about free energy. It’s about the paradigm shift. It’s about what we need to do to really embrace this new paradigm or this new worldview, this whole new way of being. And, of course, that includes that we have to help the earth now. We’ve polluted it enough. We have to now move the energy back in the other direction.
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And this helps individuals understand what’s possible and that these things are happening, that we are developing energy sources that are clean, that we can totally transform our energy economy, that we can have things for free. We can have our energy for free. We can have our food for free. We don’t have to be enslaved. Well, that’ll be an exciting time if people can embrace those ideas.
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Rather than just go on, I know that it’d be nice, because Arielle, who’s on the mainland, would love to be here with us. So we’re going to do this as a preview, okay? Great. And I can see from looking at the book, that’s Meredith’s work there, huh? Yes. That’s right. That’s the Resurrection of Gaia, which is… Ah, let me focus in closer. Ah, beautiful. And beautiful hands there, too, Meredith. Okay.
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Well, thank you, guys. We look forward to having you on the show real soon. You’re a good guy. Thank you. Aloha. Aloha. I was going to say, I don’t have a… You take care. Oh, hey. Wonderful. Incredible.
35:52
You’re going to be the elder. That’s right. You’ve got to find a word for it. Well, the Portuguese were the great navigators. He’s a navigator. You’re now a spiritual navigator. I’ve got to figure it out.
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We’re just starting already.
36:47
I’m Jason. I’m here with Mama Presents with a terrific guest. We just had dinner, and we were going to call it Mama Loves to Eat, but it was too crowded in there, so here we are sitting for a few minutes. This is Dr. Glenn Olds. Welcome to our show. Well, thank you for inviting me. What a setting. You know, we have been in love with Maui since our first visit many years ago when I was…
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resurrecting and building Alaska Pacific University. And I believe that Alaska and Maui ought to be brought together intellectually. We were the last two states. Alaska was rich in natural resources, poor in human resources. Maui was rich in human resources. We are the window to the Pacific. I said the 20th century belongs to the Atlantic. It’s tired now. The 21st century belongs to the Pacific.
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And this is where the action is. This is the arena of the new century. And I’m a futurist. You know, I was Bucky Fuller’s president of his Design Science Institute. And as a futurist, you know, Maui has to be at the center of the action of the 21st century. You sound like me. Well, I think you know we would wonderfully…
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blessed to have had a meal with Mayor Tavares, who was a great supporter at that time, and we, as was the council and everyone else. See, we wanted to bring, since the state university was not likely, and I think it’s not likely to bring a four-year college here with Hilo and Ottawa, we wanted to bring the last two capstone of the liberal arts, you know, in the program, in hotel and restaurant management and management and so on.
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with Hawaii and to develop that ambience. And I was, you know, we were interested in energy research, which is your field of interest, all kinds of alternative energy, even though Alaska was supplying most of the oil, you know, for the country. But we had every reason to believe that this was also the intellectual crossroads. You see, we were worrying then, we, I don’t, I shouldn’t speak for the mayor,
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But the Hawaiian culture is so rich in its diversity and its long heritage. Bucky Fuller is the only other person I know, except the man we met on Kuna this weekend, who believed that the origin of the human race was not in Africa, but in Polynesia. He had a lot of arguments for that. And so I was kind of disposed to that conviction. And therefore, it seemed to us…
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What a place for experimenting on the three frontiers of the future, which we talked about at lunch. Let’s talk about them again. Space, sea, and the self. The interior world, the galactical world, and the subterranean world. And that’s where some of the most exciting forms of energy, features of understanding of life,
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biotechnologies with respect to all of the kind of adaptation for medicine and health and so on for coming. And with Haleakala here, I knew, you know, one of the great centers for space exploration was going to be here. And you’re sitting in the middle of the Pacific, so the sea had to be. And a lot of people then, I don’t know whether that’s true now,
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We’re being attracted to Maui for the inner self development. Even more than before. All kinds of new age psychology, spirituality, that the main channel, the main line thinking was missing.
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But what Aldous Huxley called those niches between the pigeonholes of little minds. And those niches were ones that we thought such a concept of a university could be built. And although this hasn’t been built here, it was based on
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I would like to call it a boardroom decision that had nothing to do with our key principles here. No, Maui was ready. We had Mayor Tavares. The council. We had Colin Cameron. We had the Manoholu campus leased for 50 years. I spoke to all of the major hotel restaurants here. We developed a program in Alaska, unique of its kind. I wanted to demonstrate you can have a new kind of university with no tenure.
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no departments, no vertical division, integrating the cultures of the East and West, so that any kid or any person, you better watch that, any person, man or woman, could earn their way through college without help from mom and dad or Uncle Sam. I wanted to design a university where they could work their way through. So I talked to the hotel and restaurant management here. I told our students, and we demonstrated it.
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If they were willing to work 20 hours a week, I didn’t ask for money from the community, I asked for jobs.
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that provided them enough money to pay for the tuition and the costs. And we were all set up with hotel and restaurant management. And tourism, as you know, most people don’t know, is the number one industry in the world. Did you know that? I didn’t know that. No, no, most people don’t. It’s almost light years beyond most of the other major industries that we talk about. Wow. No, it’s huge. And it’s the only possibility of the cash crop for third world countries. You know, it doesn’t require the high tech. It requires soft tech.
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It requires the human touch. It requires the understanding of language, the rich diversity that the islands demonstrate. And doing it with the sensitivity for our environment. Well, that’s it. Well, you know, I don’t need to tell you because this is your interest. I was commissioner, as you know, of natural resources for the state of Alaska. So the environmental concern was major.
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And I’ve tried to point out, you know, there is no… And they usually set development and environment against each other. That’s not true. There is no real environment without the human. We are a major factor in it. We’re a major cause of some of its problems, but we’re a key to some of its solutions. Absolutely. So you have nature, human nature, and the integration of the two. And…
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There’s no development that ignores the environment. It catches up with you. There’s no free lunch. You can’t sow thistles and reap grapes. You cannot rape the environment. You can’t be indifferent to its needs and processes and get away with it. Nature doesn’t let it. I used to tell my students, if you leap from a cliff, you don’t defy the law of gravity, you illustrate it.
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And what’s happening now in the world is an illustration of the integrity of the universe rubbing against human greed and folly. And the islands had escaped that, in Bali especially. So now is, I think, a critical time to start, like you said, plant the trees now because they take time to grow. Of course. We need to be doing that. Oh, it just won’t illustrate. No, you don’t have time. And then I want to talk about what you are here for. No, we don’t have time. I learned this when I was about three. And I wanted to garden.
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You know, we lived on the farm in Oregon. And I watched my folks. And so I kept harping away. And so finally my dad got me a little hoe and shovel set and gave me a little, you know, five-foot patch in the garden and gave me some peas for the early plants. And I planted them.
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And I kept, you know, I kept going out every morning, you know, digging them up, see how they’re doing and so on. And, you know, within a week or two, dad’s peas were really going to town. Nothing was happening in my garden. I remember, I can, this is the first memory I have. I’m sitting out there in the dust of that garden, crying, you know, because obviously I was failing as a gardener. And my dad did not believe in children. You were an instant man. If you were born a boy, you were an instant, he was a logger, you know, and he expected this. And my mom, I can hear my mother. She said, what’s the problem?
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I said, they’re just not growing. And she said, well, what have you been doing? Well, I said, I dig them up every day and they’re just not growing. And she said, which is your point, she said, son, I want to tell you something. I don’t want you to ever forget. Many of the best things in life have to be planted and let go. They take time and tending. But tending is not
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disrupting their roots and looking. Tending is to ensure that their roots can grow. And that’s what you’re talking about. And that’s what education at its best does. It tends the roots of the future, you see. And this is where I envisage a think tank. I talked to Colin Cameron about converting his plantation, you know, the plantation up there at the end of those, those Norfolk Pine up there, a think tank where you would be bringing people together. This was before the Japanese
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impact, really, essentially, on not just the island, but on the world. But bringing the East and West together, so everybody would want to come to Raleigh. Well, anyway, dreams delayed are still viable. That’s why I’m still here. Well, I’m glad you are. Thank you. Let’s jump to the subject, because maybe I’m quick, but I know you have only a short time.
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I want these people to know why you’re here now, because your mission now is also very important. Well, I was your ambassador. It’s hard for you to believe. I was your ambassador at the United Nations in 69, 70, and 71. And I believed, then and now, that after World War II, it was obvious that no nation, however strong, good, or effective, could govern the world.
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We created the United Nations for that purpose. But it was clear within two years that the veto of the Russians was crippling it seriously. And there was founded at that time, I was involved in that, the World Federalist Association, patterned after our own American history. You remember, after we won the Revolutionary War, we were so sick of king and of power and of, we didn’t even have a president.
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We created the Articles of Confederation, and we were going to rule with 13 sovereign states. Well, within seven years, the whole thing had broken down. We couldn’t even agree on tariffs in the Chesapeake Bay where there were five involved.
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Our currency couldn’t be transferred from one state to another. You’ve heard about you’re not worth a continental. So we called the Constitutional Convention to create a federation of states. And we have been arguing, the World Federalist Association for 50 years, that’s what the United Nations ought to be, a federation of states, where the independent integrity of the nations are guarded and honored, but where those things that we can’t do alone, peacekeeping, peacemaking,
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international trade, in care for the environment. The wind doesn’t stop blowing when it hits the Mexican border, right? The fish don’t start swimming. Global responsibility. Okay. So I agreed with some reluctance after it’s been a tough year for me, as you know, just so they can have some sympathy with Hannibal. You know, I’ve had…
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Quintuple bypass surgery, radical prostate cancer surgery, and rolled my tractor over me this year. So I’m aware. Well, you’re a living testament to that you can heal. That you can heal. Terrific. Now, my final point is I agreed then. I saw the world federalists, you know, struggling like every good cause with no money, no resources, and so on. Right. And I’ve been a three-time university president. I’ve had to raise a lot of money. Yes. And I’ve discovered money is the easiest thing to give.
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Money is the easiest. Time is the next most difficult. Your commitment is the hardest. But ultimately, if you’re going to be committed, the test of that is whether you’re getting any money. So I said, I’ll find 10 people in the United States that can give a million dollars. That’ll endow this operation, throwing off a million dollars a year, and we can do it. So that’s why I’m here. I heard… So, that’s important. If any of you out there have a million dollars for a very important cause… Well, actually, I had identified such a person. Who will go name was…
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in Honolulu, and I came over to have dinner with her last Friday. So if you have any other out there with a million, we still need our money here. Oh, hey, Mike experiences, Ken, that this is the way our universe is put together. It’s not only tightly knit, and it’s all part of a system, but if those who have money get linked to something more important than money, it’s a catch. No, you may not have that. We used to have pumps in Oregon. You had to prime them.
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The old vacuum pump. And you kept a quart there to pump it, you know, to prime it. Once you got it going, man, there’s a lot of water down there. This is a 10 million pump primer. Once it begins to go, we’ll get it flowing. So, yeah, I’ll find… But my theory was…
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I wanted the first one to be from the Hawaiian Islands because Hawaii symbolized that world federation of diverse cultures and traditions east and west and so on that the world federalists have been about. Well, I’m honored to have gotten your time here. It’s been really a pleasure meeting you. My pleasure. I look forward to our future conversations. And, you know, I still think you’ll find a way creatively to get that capstone
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the third and fourth year in the college and the future so if i can help in any way why somebody will holler thank you good aloha it’s my friday come what may
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It’s my Friday. It’s here to stay. It’s my Friday. Maybe I get away. It’s my Friday. It’s here to stay.
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It’s my Friday every day. Ka-ching, ka-ching. Ka-ching, ka-ching. Ka-ching, ka-ching. That’s the sound that money brings that keeps my island green. The sound that money brings. Ka-ching, ka-ching. Ooh.
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Ooh, turn your money down. Keep my eye on me. Ooh, turn your money down. Keep my eye on me. The swats be with you every day. I know there’s not enough light. I’m trying springing on you. I see a horse going over the middle.
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The horse rings true The horse is running across the meadow The horse is running true The horse is running true
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Well, thank you, Brian. I think we’re going to come back with light. That was fun. I like that you threw in that Schwartz be with you thing. ¶¶
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There you are A magnificent work of art And here I am Just a lonely boy, lonely man It’s the mystery boy
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The magical moment I spent with you And maybe no one else, no one else In my life will do
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Take my hand, darling, please let me walk with you. I know our love, I know our love will always be true. It’s a mystical, a magical moment I’ve spent with you. And let me know
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Here in my life will do Come on. Come on.
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Take my hand.
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Darling, please let me walk with you I know our love, I know our love will always be true It’s a mystical, magical moment I’ve spent with you
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I need to know what else no one else here in my life will do. It’s a mystical, a magical road in my life.
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I’m gonna fall in love with you.
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Girl, I’m gonna fall in love Yes, I’m gonna fall in love Girl, I’m gonna fall in love with you Girl, I’m gonna fall in love Yes, I’m gonna fall in love Girl, I’m gonna
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oh
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Come on, boys, let’s go. Let’s go. Let’s go.
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Oh, my.
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that’s what they say



