CHAD WILSON, Green Party 2020 Presidential Candidate

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Host Jason Schwartz interviews CHAD WILSON, a Green Party 2020 Candidate for President of the United States. In this political year, Chad expresses his outspoken  views and offers up his candidacy  to all Americans..

Summary & Transcript

1. 1. 1. Interview with Chad Wilson, 2020 Green Party Presidential Candidate

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  [00:00 → 02:20] Introduction and Background of Guest
  Jason Schwartz introduces Chad Wilson, a Green Party candidate for the 2020 U.S. Presidential election, highlighting the unusual circumstances of running during the COVID-19 pandemic and election season. Chad is currently based in rural Tennessee, just outside Nashville, offering a perspective from a traditionally “red” state. Jason emphasizes the importance of understanding the political dynamics beyond the two major parties—Democrats and Republicans—particularly highlighting the Green Party’s role as a third party with independent voices.

• [02:20 → 07:52] Chad’s Political Awakening and Entry into the Green Party
  Chad recounts his political journey, beginning with his support for Jill Stein in 2016. His interest in politics deepened through his exposure to religious and cultural tensions, especially Islamophobia during Obama’s presidency, which conflicted with his Pentecostal upbringing. Disillusioned by Bernie Sanders’ perceived compromises with the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in 2016, Chad abandoned support for Sanders after the convention and the DNC email leaks exposed internal corruption. By 2018, Chad engaged in national progressive discussions, primarily connecting with Greens in California and Arizona, eventually inspired by Jesse Ventura’s rumored Green Party candidacy to become more involved. When Ventura did not run, Chad decided to enter the 2020 Green Party presidential primary himself, motivated by a desire to reform the party’s internal issues, especially regarding transparency, branding, and marketing.
• [07:52 → 11:17] Internal Challenges within the Green Party
  Once in the race, Chad gained insight into the party’s decentralized structure and observed manipulation within committees that control the party narrative. He noted a lack of promotion for the Green Party primary debates and a concerning overlap between campaign staff and party media committee members, which he views as conflicts of interest. Chad suggests that internal gatekeeping and control by a few individuals are throttling the growth of the Green Party by limiting genuine grassroots engagement and controlling which narratives gain prominence. He criticizes the party’s national media for often amplifying content from outside groups rather than promoting authentic Green Party messaging.
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  Chad Wilson discusses Green Party policies during his 2020 presidential interview with Maui Neutral Zone.[11:17 → 14:44] Green Party’s Unique Values and Cultural Challenges
  Chad emphasizes the importance of the Green Party’s Four Pillars—ecological wisdom, social justice, grassroots democracy, and nonviolence—as foundational values that attracted him. He stresses the need for a cultural shift within the party, describing it as a “cultural coup” necessary for a political coup. Chad believes the party must build energy, excitement, and openness to discussion to combat misinformation, propaganda, and censorship. He advocates for empathy in political discourse, understanding the root causes of people’s fears and emotions without condoning harmful behavior. He views addressing propaganda, censorship, and corruption as unifying issues that could bridge divides in the country.

• [14:44 → 21:51] Political Landscape, Propaganda, and the Pied Piper Strategy
  Chad reflects on the 2016 elections and the manipulations that led to Donald Trump’s victory, including the Democratic Party’s strategy of backing controversial candidates in the Republican primaries to weaken the GOP field (the “Pied Piper Strategy”). He discusses how ongoing political propaganda, particularly around Russiagate, has fueled division and anger on both sides, making it difficult to have honest conversations. Chad argues that the left would benefit from openly condemning corrupt figures like the Clintons and Obama administration officials to regain trust and weaken the right-wing’s ability to exploit these issues. He stresses the importance of validating people’s feelings and offering alternative vehicles for political expression to diffuse anger and polarization.
• [21:51 → 25:49] Practical Presidential Leadership: Addressing Justice and Violence
  Jason puts Chad in the hypothetical position of president during times of civil unrest and protests demanding justice for all, such as those sparked by police violence. Chad acknowledges the unprecedented nature of social media as a platform for public voice and sees it as an opportunity to foster unity by breaking down cultural and identity barriers through effective communication. He emphasizes the need to listen empathetically to diverse perspectives, recognizing that many fears and anger are fueled by misinformation and historical trauma. Chad highlights the disproportionate incarceration rates for minorities over cannabis offenses as a clear example of systemic injustice needing reform.
• [25:49 → 30:43] Personal Growth, Cultural Understanding, and Overcoming Ignorance
  Chad shares his personal journey from growing up in a religious, culturally homogenous environment in Tennessee to gaining broader cultural awareness through experiences in Miami and collaborations with hip-hop artists. This exposure helped him recognize his own ignorance and the importance of understanding different cultural perspectives. He stresses that fear and propaganda often exaggerate threats, causing division and emotional conflict even among friends and family. Chad promotes patience and open dialogue as essential to overcoming ignorance and building trust, both within political movements and society at large.
• [30:43 → 36:41] Policy Priorities and Vision for America
  When asked for practical policy steps as president, Chad focuses on several key areas:
  • Cannabis Legalization: Seen as a “butterfly effect” issue that could positively impact prison reform, criminal justice, and healthcare.
  • Healthcare Reform: Advocates for breaking the profit-driven healthcare model and moving toward a nonprofit, universal healthcare system emphasizing prevention, diagnostics, treatment, and cures.
  • Resource Management: Calls for reclaiming, renewing, reusing, and repurposing materials and infrastructure to build sustainable communities and prepare for potential disasters.
  • Technology and Organization: Emphasizes leveraging technology to organize resources efficiently and connect communities across urban and rural divides.
  • Transparency and Trust: Promises to release information illuminating government actions to validate public concerns and build trust.

Chad critiques the current political leadership for lacking clear, decisive action and aims to provide coherent leadership that improves quality of life and addresses systemic crises.

• [36:41 → 41:52] Building Energy, Culture, and Language in Politics
  Chad stresses that political change is as much about cultural evolution as policy. Without a shift in energy, excitement, and inclusive language, policies won’t resonate or feel real to people. He stresses the importance of understanding cultural “bubbles” and identity politics to craft messages that truly connect with diverse groups. Chad uses the metaphor from the movie Ocean’s Eleven to illustrate teamwork with individuals contributing their unique skills toward a common goal, emphasizing cooperation over ideological conflict.
• [41:52 → 44:55] How to Connect with Chad Wilson and His Campaign
  Chad invites viewers to engage with him through his website (chadwilson.us) and social media platforms, especially Facebook and Twitter, where the Green Party’s discussions primarily take place. He highlights his focus on growing the Green Party into a viable third party that fosters honest discussion and welcomes voices across the political spectrum. Chad underscores his ability to achieve significant outreach without large financial resources by leveraging internet virality and coordinated messaging.
• [44:55 → 46:41] Closing Remarks and Vision for Green Party’s Future
  In closing, Chad shares a vision for energizing the Green Party through cultural contributions such as commissioning a Green Party marching band to appear at protests and events, adding energy, compassion, and visibility to the movement. Jason expresses appreciation for Chad’s candidacy and encourages viewers to consider voting for him, emphasizing that voting is only one form of political engagement and that broader pressure and activism are needed for real change. Chad reiterates the need for collective action beyond the ballot box and thanks viewers for their support.

1. 1. 1. Key Insights

• Chad Wilson’s candidacy is deeply rooted in a desire to reform not just U.S. politics, but the internal culture and mechanics of the Green Party.
• He advocates for embracing the Green Party’s Four Pillars as a framework for uniting people around ecological sustainability, social justice, democracy, and nonviolence.
• Chad highlights the corrosive effects of propaganda, censorship, and corruption as key barriers to national unity and political progress.
• His personal story reflects the importance of cultural humility and empathy in breaking down divisive political narratives.
• Practical policy priorities include cannabis legalization, universal healthcare reform, sustainable resource management, and increased government transparency.
• Chad envisions a culturally vibrant political movement energized by art and music, emphasizing the power of coordinated digital activism.
• He critiques both major parties for manipulation and corruption, positioning the Green Party as a necessary independent alternative.

1. 1. 1. Keywords

Green Party, 2020 Presidential Candidate, Chad Wilson, Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein, DNC leaks, internal party politics, propaganda, censorship, corruption, Four Pillars, ecological wisdom, social justice, grassroots democracy, nonviolence, cannabis legalization, healthcare reform, resource management, cultural empathy, political strategy, Pied Piper strategy, Russiagate, social media activism, political reform, third party, political culture, trust building, political messaging.

1. 1. 1. FAQ

Q: Why did Chad Wilson decide to run for president with the Green Party?
A: Disillusioned by the 2016 Democratic primary, internal party corruption, and lack of genuine progressive leadership, Chad sought to bring energy and reform to the Green Party, addressing both internal mechanics and broader political issues.

Q: What are the core principles guiding Chad Wilson’s campaign?
A: The Green Party’s Four Pillars: ecological wisdom, social justice, grassroots democracy, and nonviolence, combined with a focus on transparency, empathy, and cultural understanding.

Q: How does Chad Wilson view the current political climate and propaganda?
A: He sees propaganda, censorship, and corruption as major obstacles causing division and distrust. He advocates for empathy toward differing perspectives while exposing and combating manipulation.

Q: What practical changes would Chad Wilson implement as president?
A: Legalize cannabis to impact criminal justice, reform healthcare to a nonprofit universal system, promote sustainable resource use, improve government transparency, and connect communities through technology.

Q: How does Chad Wilson plan to grow the Green Party?
A: By leveraging social media for viral messaging, fostering open and honest discussions, and building cultural initiatives like a Green Party marching band to energize activism and increase visibility.

This comprehensive summary provides a clear and structured overview of Chad Wilson’s interview, capturing the essence of his political philosophy, campaign priorities, and vision for the Green Party and the United States.

Transcript

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[Music] Aloha everyone how are you today my name is Jason Schwartz I am the host of the Maui neutral zone it’s anything but neutral and today we have a terrific guest a special guest and you guys know that this is 2020 and we’re in the middle of a covin 19 virus pandemic but that doesn’t stop us from having election season and in this election season there are Democrats Republicans and there are other parties one of those other parties is one that I have a lot of feeling for that’s called the Green

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Party I don’t know if you any of you were alive some of you were when I ran here on Maui in the 1990s but here are 2020 I think there are some people running that have very strong and independent voices nationally and so I am trying to interview some of them and one of them a very vital one is Chad Wilson who’s sitting here with me Aloha Chad welcome to the show Aloha thank you for having me appreciate it where are you based right now what you and I mean he’s gonna see Tennessee oh yeah just just outside of Nashville and

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actually in the country so very cool it’s a cool place man yeah Tennessee is is God is interesting and it actually it’s it’s good for me to understand the South and be here because I have a neck I guess a lens that a lot a lot of the other candidates don’t have so I think it’s important you know the red states are important red states means the Republican states blue states means Democrat states right degree many states we don’t have any states yet huh no no state but the green seems to be

02:20

everywhere you know what eub Green Party and what kind of things make you decided you wanted to run this time to president the United States well I voted for Jill Stein back in 2016 I was on the birdie train I I I got into politics like heavy during during that that season I’d started getting into it through through like the religious side of things because you know during the Obama’s term is when they took the two to seven wars so they beat the fear drum about Islamophobia so I was battling a

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lot of people that I grew up with my because my dad’s like a Pentecostal preacher evangelist so I was getting getting this emotional response from that and then of course led into the 16 election and then and then dealing with everything all the the drama that went down with Bernie Sanders campaign it woke me up in a way that um I wasn’t expecting Bernie vinta me he what he wouldn’t stand up to the Clintons he wouldn’t stand up to the DNC and from that point on it it just shifted my understanding

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of what someone needs to do you there can’t be any compromise you can say these people are my friends you can’t work with certain people you have to put your foot down and some at some point you know especially when when what they’re doing is so is so bad so you’re talking about in 2016 Bernie Sanders was running for president against at the club Hillary Clinton and but with the way you felt the things happened in the Democrat Party that Bernie should have stood up and kicked his hind legs and fought for what he

04:15

felt was important then and here we are in 2020 and I don’t imagine that was specifically you were you running before Bernie dropped out of the race here this time 100 yeah yeah no IIIi gave up on Bernie at the convention it was such such a big big deal too for everything to have come out the way it did you know with wick Wikileaks truck dropping the deans DN c– email leaks because their leaks or they weren’t hacks he had a real opportunity you know strategy-wise it however you wanted look at it if he would have put

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his backbone into it then he could have made something happening of course the same kind of attitude that behavior or you know he bent the knee again this time around so i didn’t pay any attention to bernie you know I know that people kind of went went that route and wouldn’t tried it again and and tried to you know play the insider game as far as tried to try to change the the DN C through the inside so I was done with that it was in 2018 because I was doing these these discussion talks through

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zoom actually with people across the country for and we did it for months and months and in a lot of a lot of people that were involved in the progressive and independent media progressive world they you know we we talked about everything went through everything and and that’s where I kind of got engaged with with greens because the Tennessee greens is not super active so my interaction was was from California and Arizona greens mainly so the Arizona Green that I knew brought to the attention to my attention or to

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everybody’s attention that Jesse Ventura was talking about Ronnie this was in 2018 and he was getting all this press about it and of course you know we’re talking politics we’re talking all these different things and going through and and and it was really it was really awesome to hear a bunch of people talk that’s just a side note but anyway so Jesse Jesse Ventura said he was gonna run or so he was thinking about it with the Green Party so a group of us got together and started having these

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discussions called a venture a thon basically about drafting him he just just about having the conversation what it would do for the Green Party what kind of attention he would bring what kind of energy what do you know the the positives and the negatives and trying to hear what people felt and and my first real interaction that way was there was a lot of vitriol actually coming from some of the insiders in the party and I thought it was just you know kind of a few different players toxic things but that

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that’s what got me more invested in the internal issues of the party so as time went on and Jesse because he was gonna he was gonna say something by a certain time and he didn’t and I I realized he wasn’t gonna run or I didn’t think he was gonna run and I started seeing everything that was going down already in the primary seeing kind of the the drama that was happening prior to me even getting in so I knew that we’ve talked about it for hours and hours about what the party needed and I felt

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like I had a good idea especially because it’s branding and marketing it is the biggest thing the way the way we present ourselves but I decided to jump in the race and bring my my energy into it and when I got in it it just ended up being a lot more of internal issues and in my opinion well not just my opinion I mean it is what it is you can’t build the party off of a bad foundation and it seemed like there was a lot of people that were trying to sweep some things under the rug rather than address it

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head-on this is the 2016 right oh this is aekta this is the 2020 2019 yeah once I started running I got in the race in September and so what one I got in the race you know it gave me a different perspective than before I got in the race obviously I started really understanding the mechanics of the way the party ran you know that it’s a federation you know my understanding in education on on the party mechanisms were was very small but I realized that there’s not a lot of people in the party

08:27

that really know all the pieces and how it works and so that’s what the real issues come in is is there’s a lot of people that are using our districts decentralization value as a way to manipulate some of these committees in order to get certain things passed in order to control the narrative of the party if you see that our party hasn’t promoted the primary once I think they share actually I think they shared the September debate maybe on the Facebook page but since then there’s been no no

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promotion of it all the only the only candidate that even promoting is a candidate that’s not even was gonna run green but ended up going independent and and didn’t even get an endorsement from the Green Party yet but we’re sharing it all over the all over our GP media and not only that the the people that are getting paid on on that campaign are part of the media committee you know so I know it’s kind of a lot to throw at you already so basically you’re talking that the Green Party’s internal

09:31

politics aren’t a lot to your liking and so you’re standing up as a candidate but also you’re standing up so that the Green Party will be now quote officially taking a look at what’s going on in their own ranks – I want to say are they mirroring activity and these other parties that you haven’t been comfortable with and you thought the Green Party was somehow different and I’m looking in a better way that was more independent when you see people on the committees that are on the a

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candidate staff it makes you kind of wonder what’s going on here it’s a little bit more fixed than you’d like to be well yet and it would be one thing if there was just one or two but it seems like there’s so many of these people that are across committees and there’s so many co-chairs and there’s so many like little little details that that are going on that it’s just overrun so it’s so this long purpose this is what I found out is that they’re purposely basically with trying to throttle growth

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because if it grows too fast then they lose their their control over how they direct you know the energy and the narrative of the party because each individual state is is separate right the whole digitalization but the party’s national the National Party is what is the face of the party because people are mostly engaged in your presidential primary are you your presidential that’s when the party actually raises its most money and that your game comes from the national media so what what’s been done

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is that you know people use the party’s media influence to qualify and legitimize their outside organizations so for the last four years they’ve been doing all these shows on streaming from Joe Stein’s page and non-affiliated content but they’ve been sharing it on the GP page so it’s been it’s not really been growing our party we’re not putting things out that are that are benefiting us that keep bringing people back here so it’s like in September right they had an eco

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socialism event and I know social is good so what I’m understanding is in some ways it’s above my head meaning it’s the the politics of party and all that goes on when people get involved in politics is they’re pushing their own private agenda through party and you’re not feel it’s getting the Green Party’s name out in a way that is I don’t want to say generic and really talking about the roots of what it is that make it so unique what do you find me obviously you’re running under the agenda what

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about being a green fills you I mean now let’s now say we get it just like the rest of them you may or may not get to the final but let’s now say people are gonna see this and they’re gonna say okay there’s that guy like a vote hopefully you can get in position to be seen but what is it that you feel as president or what is it that the greens in with the us candidate can offer this nation that is unique or yes that’s way or if you don’t think you’re gonna win because the sheer volume what message

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and style do you want to add to the presidency and this whole discussion obviously you’re running with some specifics in mind and I just want to get a feeling from what’s at the core of you and what you want to do for sure well the main thing is in the four pillars right so I do music I’m an artist like my background is music I was in the marching band so I’ve played trumpets really understand how it orchestra works how all these different pieces work and how everything’s supposed to flow so

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that’s the kind of the way that I approach things from a production standpoint so I’m looking at it from okay well what is the disconnect between people and the party why aren’t people coming to the party so that my first thing is to say okay be honest with what kind of of what are the pieces and the biggest part has to do with the gatekeeping and the vibe the energy the culture we need a cultural coup for political coup and it’s because it’s important to understand that that

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people’s the energy if we’re not if we’re not building energy building excitement opening having a place to feel open to discuss opened it to to work out these things that that people feel or are missed or miss educated on you know we need we need to be the ones that are have the high ground that understand why people are propagandized right so we don’t need to take the approach to always be just angry directly we need to be empathetic not condoning of behavior but understanding

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the building blocks and that’s that’s why I think censorship propaganda and corruption are the three issues that could unite the country because we forget rid of those three things then it actually gives us a real level playing field to discuss things and it’s everything everything that everybody wants to to get rid of everybody’s tired of the corruption that you’re gonna hear that in the rural area I mean III the parties okay so the parties values the four pillars is what brought me in as

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far as I looked at it and said wow these four pillars could really be be something that people people to look up what those four pillars are but it’s specific and then Aguila ecological wisdom justice for all grassroots democracy and non-violence so let’s take them just for a quick second okay justice for all well and they say very remiss if we didn’t note that right today that there are demonstrations and protests and violence that but many will say are not in any way related to the people that are

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protesting but they’re creating and creating violence to almost diminish the power of this discussion about justice for all well if you were in presidency right now what would you do what would you do based on now well okay so again this is the first time in history that we’ve been in been able to communicate in such a way now a lot of people look at social media as as toxic because people are arguing and always fighting and stuff remember this is the first time in history that we’re giving people

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a voice I mean and it’s not because it’s not just two people talking in a room it’s a it’s like a public platform and I look at it like ants write how ants work together as a unit we haven’t yet figured out how to to work as a unit right here so I look at it as language to understand each identity each culture break them down and and and be able to use language and use specific people within those cultures to to back-trace the to the policies and to you know to the dynamic well to what’s creating the

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dynamic in order to to make someone feel like they’re heard because again it’s not it’s not about condoning someone’s behavior it’s about acknowledging the way that someone’s feels because we’re feeling something even if we’re filling something off something that’s not real we’re being taught the fear drums being beaten in order to I mean that that’s the whole thing like so there’s more people in jail for cannabis than all violent crimes combined blacks and

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minorities four to five times as likely to be incarcerated even though whites blacks use it the same rate so right there just cannabis alone is going to empty out so many of our of our people out of our prisons so we need to look at and I try to use movie references so I like I talked about Doc Doc Brown from Back to the Future you’re not thinking fourth dimensionally you know it’s like a butterfly effect we have to change certain things at the root level so time can can change these things because time

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makes more converts the reason unpacking but here we are now we have a president we have disruption in many states and now your president and first of all you’re going to address the nation what are you going to say to them and what are you gonna do I’m going to assume you’d like to stop the violence and unify the people a little different than our present sitting president who seems to put out a message that encourages violence and encourages on us and them mentality I feel like I say I’m trying

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to put you in a real-life situation here in some ways because when I hear justice for all and we see this all going on right now I know that we can talk to theoretical x’ but i’m trying to get something a little practical to give a difference and show who and where you are in that kind of way absolutely absolutely remember so so you know and it gets the big picture there’s a lot of things that when you make when you make your decision or when you make a strategy move or or you have to think

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about all the pieces of the puzzle so that’s the problem right now with on the quote-unquote left we’re forgetting about the Pied Piper strategy all these things that came out in WikiLeaks all these things that led up to given us Donald Trump because if if Obama if the Democrats had given us if they were so great then we wouldn’t be in the problem where we are now and the problem is is that every every so often you know it’s always the last guy was always better I mean look at the way that they’ve

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rehabilitated George Bush so I’m looking at and trying to understand the pulse of people and understand the different pockets the different because most people are in the two party heads the head mentality where they have to pick a side because their sides the lesser of evil and it’s the devil they know so you know there’s there’s a bunch of different pockets of people so I’m the idea is to to have a strategy that snowball into really building a relationship so I look at the Pied Piper strategy in all

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these different things with them the propaganda what the proper can be the the propaganda machines been doing with Russia Gate and we can get into all that so Russia Gate I’m gonna say Pied Piper strategy let our audience have an idea what you mean by that okay the the Pied Piper strategy was the the Clinton strategy for the election in 2016 so what they did is they said okay we’re going to going to pick a candidate either ben Carson Ted Cruz or Donald Trump and we’re going to throw all our

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weight behind them money energy through our media to make them the nominee so that way it makes it easier for Clinton to beat in the general so this is how they manipulate so not only did the Democratic Party basically rigged the Democratic Party nomination it did the same thing with with the RNC because of the way that they they’ve you know they’ve put everything out and so that’s what we’re finding out now that the FISA warrant then them spying on Trump the Russia gate all this stuff was

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so this is the point I want to mention there is that when a broken clock is Right twice a day you still have to acknowledge that that’s still the time right so when I was saying before you have to acknowledge what people are feeling and where things are coming from is what the propping began propaganda machine has done is built this Russian lie off of the original goalposts which is the DNC leaks and that was the excuse in order to to start this whole well it was this whole wave and again they’ve moved the

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goalposts but they’ve beat the fear drum and they’ve given legitimacy to that to that specific fight so when they’re pushing Russia gate as in Russia packed our election Russia hack the DNC all these different things that you know what they’re doing is they’re giving legitimate reasons for Trump’s based to to fight against something so what you’re doing is you really you’re really building up their anger you’re really building up things so the idea is to take the wind out of the sails right

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find out what what the one or two reasons are people or picking their side and give them give them what they want you know just give them a different vehicle and what I’ve been learning and listening is that people are tired of the corruption and as an example of something that would completely change the playing field we’re completely revolutionized if the left were to give up Obama to give up the Clintons and a way to say you know we we condemn them and actually call out their actions the behavior of what

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happened you know with the two to seven wars belli not Wall Street the the spying powers the journalists you know prosecuting journalism does the the abuse of powers with this fight and fires war and all this kind of stuff the point is if we did that again it would take the wind out of the sails of the Trump stirs and and and not only that it would give us the room to really build up the left because the people that are are are you know exploiting all these things would would be out of the way and

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good I’m hearing you know I hear a lot of conversation about politics but I’m like trying to get a practical answer here I am I’m I’m a governor and I’m in Minnesota and I have a riot in my town because a police officer put his his leg on or on somebody’s neck and he died and now there’s all kinds of stuff going on in the street and just this morning we hear a president who’s telling the the governor’s they’re not tough enough and bring it in the National Guard and you

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got to be tough so as Fred I’m looking to put you in president now here we go bang your president what are you going to do how are you going to unify and what are you going to put out to the country I appreciate that you’re saying what you were just saying politics is wild if the Democrats would throw under the bus the people that are culpable in their group it would stop the other side from being able to use that and we can actually get at some issues well there aren’t because nobody trusts each other nobody

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respects each other I’m just saying let’s throw that out the window you’re now president I’m trying to say okay we’re trying to give you the role of president as president now we have to lead by talking about justice for all and working on things to bring up equality I’m not exactly sure how you do it or what you’re thinking well you’re also talked about ecological wisdom to me that means do things that make sense that illogical so that we don’t completely destroy the e the everything

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around it so system so we our kids and our grandkids are left this decimated place where we took advantage of right now to make profit and to feed lots of people with look I don’t guess I’m not getting into the specifics but ecological wisdom and justice for all what was the other one that really grabbed you because I’m trying to say when you run you’re running for a reason I get that the politics part you’ve made it already clear even without going into even more detail right that these

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politics in these parties doesn’t matter whether you’re Democrat Republican Green they’re all politicians and their juxtaposition and not dealing with it it’s not no as I say it’s not just that I mean what I look at its behavior it’s it’s it’s a society like a structure the way we look at things it’s your churches your schools it’s all the same thing that’s why people get away with doing things because we excuse certain behavior with those around us and we’re

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not taught to say hey that’s wrong or how to deal with things were bullied were we’re we’re gas-lit we’re told to shut up and it means the same thing that happens in church like save churches schools wherever you want to go with organizations with this with the the hierarchy kind of thing so my thing is is about trying to walk people to understanding these behaviors so so propaganda is a big thing like people are seeing the propaganda in a different way on the right using because of Russia

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Gate so it doesn’t mean that they’re not being propagandize in their own way it just means that that I look at it like that eventually if they’re realizing how how deep in depth the propaganda is that they if they start applying that to everything that then then we’re eventually going to get to the same thing because if you watch jimmy dore right there’s a lot of things that jimmy dore talks about that really resonates with people that are libertarians or Trump supporters cuz he

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gets a lot of people from you know they don’t they don’t always agree with him on policy or on everything but just justice to see that that there are places that just calling out the brings people together that to me that excites me and I just I know that there’s there’s a way to do this through music because so I grew up in Tennessee dad’s a preacher I grew up in it in this this bubble right and and I never I never thought that that I was prejudiced in any way but it wasn’t till

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I moved in Miami at 25 you know that that I understood that that that I’m real that I that I’m really ignorant on culture that I’m really ignorant on people that I’m ignorant in myself because my whole my whole perspective has to do with the bubble and the people around me so as as I’m learning these other cultures and being accepted and I actually started doing a bunch of hooks for a bunch of hip-hop artists is going around and and experiencing something totally different than I would have

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experienced in in Tennessee it it allowed me to get it to to to see a pulse a thread of something that most people don’t get to see and especially to be accepted and to be able to go somewhere and feel comfortable and get out of that that fear box that’s kind of created I felt like okay if I see this this world and I could see this world and I understand like where the ignorance lies because it’s it’s it’s always to a degree right so the fear drum may may be talking truth but it’s

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only to a degree right with they’re talking about exhantus extremists that may be something that’s just a fear but it may be only to a small degree but the way the media hits it too you know the hyper focus on it ninety nine percent and that’s what you know completely makes somebody afraid of something so uh you know I I spent so much time arguing with friends family and people really that I didn’t know but mainly friends and family and and you know trying to understand like you know

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Wyatt why keep butting heads and all this kind of different stuff and I I was getting emotionally you know triggered and getting caught up in these propaganda things where I’m supposed to you know and eventually I got to the point where I really started to understand the polls the thread the theme of what’s going on so I try to look tried to look at people in in what they’re trying to say or why they feel the way that they feel or how their process and the information so so I’m not just blanketing people because

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that’s the problem you know we’re I mean we’re all all blanketing people and we’re done necessarily giving people a chance to to to work through their their ignorance is sometimes so understanding are understand all these different things I wanted to I felt like I could connect in because I’m not afraid to admit my mistakes I guess and that’s something you don’t see well philosophy wise and discussion wise politics I can see your valuable important part in the discussion I’m trying to look

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practically I want to turn my phone off I forgot like like oh my here we are I’m making you president bingo okay what give me an idea what changes you’re gonna make because I mean we’re at a point where we are in the middle of we can name 10 crises going on just environmental crises food sit I’m here in Hawaii 90% of our food is imported you’d think at some point they’d get it hey it’s not really of be self-sustainable about that we look at the country we see all these

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food things being broken up they closed a meat plant they closed another plant they farmers dump and produce if everyone isn’t realizing that things are shifting where they are so here you are I’m now making you president we saw President Trump do things like a point Ben Carson in housing in our development we thought Betsy DeVos going into education I mean I’m just getting specific we see they bring on the Mike Pompeo out of the Senate and now he’s the Secretary of State you wonder what

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the hell’s he doing there and you you all kinds of things so here we are we’re turning you into the president any things that you you would do I mean if someone’s gonna look at you they have to say if I’m gonna vote green by itself that’s big but what is it about this candidate that I’m gonna really see he really has it on the ball he knows where he sits where I sit he’s gonna move the the dial this way a little bit or a lot but that’s what I’m trying to get at well really trying to be

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practical in this if you will cuz we elect neutral zone which we can talk about this stuff but in this election year with this highly charged atmosphere I’m just trying to single out on ya some of your action steps that would be cannabis cannabis legally legalization first you know that’s was saying like there the the cannabis butterfly effect because of everything that’s connected to it when it comes to prison reform criminal you know criminal justice health care you know of course we can

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talk about him you know all the the benefits there so I want to be able to redirect how we’re using our energy and how we’re how how we’re looking at things so first of all what we’re going to get rid of care for profit I want to break I want to break that down into into a you know preventative well your preventative diagnostic it to treatment and to in to cure so we need to work on focusing on tech and using technology in order to organize our resources that’s that’s the

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key is organize our resources that we could we could separate it into two things one thing is we have to look at it as a at the end of the day we don’t know what’s gonna happen we could have a solar flare we could have something happen to volcano you know could RuPt and you know we you know it could screw us up so we need to have a contingency plan in place for everybody to be straight which means everybody needs to be housed food clothes educated so there there’s so many resources in this

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country I would focus on reclaim renew reuse and repurpose everything so all these old houses old buildings you know we repair them and we rebuild them up we take we learn how to break them down of course we use make make stuff we’ve got so much plastic that we can we can 3d print stuff with you know they’re there’s so many resources that we have we’re just not understanding how to use it and by using the phone by using our technology we can connect all these things we need to have all these things

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in place where again communities are able to have these self-sustaining in these in these types of crisis I mean we should really really have something in place and in connect really connect the country with the city you know state by state and have a real organization and I and I think that’s something that the Green Party can do even without even being in in office so it’s about framing things with the coops and stuff but you know part of this I go this philosophy thing because it really does have to do

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with trust we don’t trust and we’re asking questions is because we don’t trust the narrative we don’t trust what anybody says and you know so will they say a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong a superficial appearance of being right and then you know that’s that’s the other problem so it’s approaching these issues as a country as a unit to be able to to really gain trust because what what the problem is is the information and how to process it we’re not getting that so as

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a president I would release a lot of information that that would illuminate everything that’s been going on so when you illuminate certain things like that and it validates what people are feeling that gas-lit that you know because I really feel like what are the one of the things that that they’re doing you know because you see and I know I’m jumping all over the place I’m seeing you as a policy guy I’m seeing in other words if I asked you to be leader so far I haven’t heard you say I would have the

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truth stand down and I would address the country and tell them this this and this and here’s what we’re gonna do and we’re gonna we’re gonna get money into your pocket because we’re in the middle of this thing where economy shut down we have so many things going on now and I’m watching I’m watching a narrative where there’s no clear decisive leadership that makes people feel confident that makes them feel covenant that we’re gonna slow the violence in the street

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and yet get to the narrative and be doing something so on I’m really looking at you I may be in fair but I’m trying to get a feeling for what you’d be able to do now as president because what we’ll think about it I mean it’s it’s influence I mean you’ve got Ken Kendall Jenner made a million dollars per post on on Instagram a million dollars per post like so having social media this is something that the party could do in general is really be present really be providing value for people’s lives so we

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have to we have to give framework for people to live to live these quality of life you know we have enough land we have enough old houses we have enough resources we should be distributing it and and building our infrastructure and building or creating a blueprint that allows us that allows us to again pass it off to the world so they could see how it works because if we’re a melting pot then worth of the world then we’re supposed to be the example of how how things can can really change do you have

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a place anywhere up on the net I’m especially in this time where we can go belly to belly a place where people can see your your direction and policy where would that be Chad Wilson got us and and as far as like you know I’m for your sea I feel like some of these things we talk about are so natural for universal health care you know health care for all I mean I health care for nonprofit is how I look at it you know I need to get rid of glass-steagall or role of reinstall glass-steagall get rid of citizens

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united and overturn citizens united you know these basic things that I mean I feel like we all agree with that are supposed to be natural I’m looking at it from the perspective of okay we know what we want for the for the main for the you know for the most part it’s you know when you go too deep into the just policy types and numbers all this kind of stuff is I feel like your your I feel like we’re missing the ball a little bit because we have to build the energy of how to get there cuz

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I think we already that we already know what we want you know I mean and I think I mean you could you can even see to this pandemic that people were okay with getting their their stimulus check you know that’s the form of socialism you know so it’s all about how its framed how the narrative is set and we talk about that night I said as Ocean’s eleven like everybody’s okay with Ocean’s eleven everybody does what what their expertise is for the common for the common goal no one calls it

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socialism some of the people don’t know what Ocean’s eleven is a reference to a movie where if you’re trying to do something and everyone does their little job you get the job done that’s what you’re talking about there and it makes people feel comfortable you know cuz we get caught up on these isms we get caught up on these different things and and so that’s that’s where like language is so important so when we address people one of the things I want to do is it begin to address cultures and

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identities because of the way the propaganda is set up and the identity politics is that we we’ve you know created these clear lines and these in these cultural bubbles that it’s important to to use language and understand the pulse of those culture bubbles because you know the things that that people don’t understand I see that it’s hard to hard to explain without without being in one culture and then you know I guess it’s different towns look at it like that you go to a different town they operate differently

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the people are different everybody you know you know if you’re like to go out and drink bars are different nightclubs are different you know depend on on the culture so we need to understand how to how to really process and analyze information and and have it were a really an evolution an evolution revolution you know a conscious evolution see I just I really do think it has to do with with more more about more about the culture then it then it does about the policy because unless unless people feel something different

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or see a vision of something different it it doesn’t necessarily feel real sometimes well because we’re we’re Believe It or Not we’ve been almost talking in our amazing oh I’m gonna give I want you to we’re talking and I appreciate the conversation but here you are you’ve got an audience of the world out there and I’m giving you a platform if you were to let them know who you are where to find you what you want them to know and why to vote for you house Chad Wilson dot US or you can go to Chad

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Wilson 20/20 at Facebook or Twitter Instagram I spent a lot of time on Facebook that’s that’s kind of where the Green Party does most of its discussions and it’s of course Twitter some too so you can you could find me there and interact with me directly but for me I want to see the party grow I’m about the team and I’m about having a real viable third party a real viable party that allows that allows real discussion honesty and opens the door for everyone so so my focus is has been on on the

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party this is for the primary in order to get it ready for the general so I want people to be able to go look and see of course where I started and where we are now and of course by the time the primary is over to see what I’ve been able to do as thus far just on my own and one of the big things I tried I wanted to show is what can be done without even spent any money and I’ve done so much without it and and we could do so much together using the internet and just just creating something to go

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viral all sharing the same thing at this at the same time all giving the same message out of that at the very same time directing our energy at the same thing at the very same same time and we we saw how Epstein you know the whole you know Epstein didn’t kill himself and stuff like that we have to be very clever and really hip on the way that we reach people and the way that we get them engaged so I want the Green Party to be to totally revolutionize politics and and it to be a place to to to

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communicate and to feel comfortable regardless of the political spectrum because you know you need to be welcome you know we’re the values are for you to it’s not just for for us so well Chad I I appreciate you coming on the show here with me and I hope that our audience realizes the opportunity to get up close with you Chad Wilson is a one of the serious candidates for president of the United States with the Green Party and whether or not you win the election your voice is powerful and thank you for running

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and getting your ideas up there and I hope that you can become an integral part in the development of the Green Party to be able to get the kind of things that you and many of us realize is important which is better open communication and all the things that you’ve been talking about I really appreciate having you here today anything that you want to say like a last thing to the people of the audience here yeah right now we we the Green Party should should have a marching band we should have people out showing up and

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adding value adding energy and adding adding real real compassion through through art music so that’s one of the things that I want to do with the Green Party is Commission a Green Party marching band so any times their protest any times that there’s anything going on we can we can show up and and give people the height they need so okay thank you thank you much for having me I really appreciate it’s a pleasure and I hope that through this election season people get a chance to see you and your

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philosophy and if an opportunity and they feel akin to your heart that they pull the lever and vote and that’s a really big one to me I hope more people get out there and express themselves and not to sit back home in their armchair and think there’s enough people voting if you’re not voting it’s not enough people right absolutely well and voting is only one way to to apply pressure I mean it’s the revolutions gonna have to be more than just the ballot box but we need the pressure so vote thank you for

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Chad thank you very much thank all you guys out there for watching and anything that you want to say you can say to me directly or to chad a chad wilson got us what was the other one sad wilson 2029 wilson 2020 calm okay thank you all for joining us we will see you again Thank You Chad thank you man hello everyone [Music]