Early EXCLUSIVE -Incident in Kihei

Jason Schwartz with JAMES G HUTCHINS 8 18 2025 – ATTACK IN BROAD DAYLIGHT !!! James G Hutchins was arrested on Monday August 11, 2025 and released from court on a Wednesday PM after having been attacked in BROAD Daylight in his vehicle in a Kihei Maui park, woke up hours later in handcuffs in the emergency room under police custody charged with terroristic threatening, endured solitary confinement and two episodes in emergency Under Custody— and then Let Go- no story or any video cams to be seen? Reports to be written? What happened ??? I want to know. YOU want to know. JAMES HUTCHINS 808-385-7197 wants to know!! Oh— and the police did not secure his car, which went MISSING/Stolen report Wednesday to the police… heard it might have been towed from a different location than the park, almost a mile away… Don’t the police have access to where vehicles are towed??? WHAT IS GOING ON?????? This story needs clarity and police need to offer help, as do the County, in remedying this matter…. some.

Summaries -& Transcript  

• [00:09 → 02:02]
  Introduction and Guest Overview
• The show “The Neutral Zone” is hosted on Maui’s 88.5 FM and Akaku Maui Community Media Channel 55.
• The episode date is August 18, 2025.
• The host introduces guest James Hutchins, a long-time acquaintance known to some listeners but unfamiliar to many.
• James appears with visible injuries: a swollen face and a large stitched wound extending from his forehead to his temple. Photos will be shared later for visual context.
• James has been living a challenging life, including periods of homelessness, despite having two highly trained service dogs.
• [02:02 → 05:19]
  Incident Overview and Legal Charges
• James recounts being released from county jail after three days in solitary confinement with no medical treatment except stitches he received at the hospital.
• The charges initially filed against him were severe: terroristic threatening in the first degree, including an allegation of holding a knife to a woman’s throat.
• The incident leading to these charges occurred on Monday, August 11, 2025, with his release happening on Wednesday, August 13.
• James was confused about the charges and had no access to legal documents or a lawyer at the time.
• The host and James clarify that the charges were serious but later dismissed before his court appearance.
• [05:19 → 07:05]
  Description of the Attack and Immediate Aftermath
• James was in a park in South Kihei, a usual spot where he stays with his dogs.
• After dropping someone off at the airport, he returned to the park and was attacked while sitting in his car with the door slightly open.
• An unknown individual approached, struck him through the car window, prompting James to brandish a knife and warn the attacker to back off.
• A physical struggle ensued, and James managed to repel the attacker.
• James lost consciousness at some point and woke up in the hospital, handcuffed and being treated for his head injury.
• He admitted to having consumed a small amount of alcohol (a couple of beers) earlier that day but did not specify any drug use.
• [07:05 → 11:38]
  Personal Context and Challenges
• James has endured difficult circumstances, including homelessness, exacerbated by his two service dogs, which limit his housing options.
• Despite physical ailments such as knee and hip replacements, he has managed to work and maintain his dogs’ welfare.
• He has lost essential belongings: his phone, wallet, and car (a maroon Chrysler Sebring, license PWZ480), which was not secured by the police after his arrest.
• His car was found abandoned approximately one mile away from the attack site at 28 Khale Drive, an upscale residential area, raising questions about how it was moved there.
• Attempts to locate the vehicle through towing companies and abandoned vehicle services have so far failed.

• [11:38 → 16:16]
  Law Enforcement Interaction and Mystery
• Police officers expressed surprise at James’ release and indicated they had video evidence related to the incident.
• James has no knowledge of the details captured on video or what exactly transpired between the attack and his hospital admission.
• There is confusion and frustration over the lack of communication from authorities, including no paperwork or clear explanation of charges.
• James was placed in solitary confinement, which he suspects was to keep his appearance hidden, not for his protection.
• Despite the serious charges, no physical violence or stabbing was confirmed by James, and he denies any guilt.
• [16:16 → 23:00]
  Community and Social Context
• The incident highlights broader issues linked to homelessness and crime in Maui, especially in public parks.
• James notes that attacks like his are not isolated and that some individuals are brazen enough to commit assaults in broad daylight.
• Homelessness on Maui is complicated by lack of affordable housing, addiction challenges, and limited services.
• James tries to live simply and work when possible despite his physical limitations and unstable living conditions.
• His dogs provide him with emotional support and safety, which is crucial to his survival and well-being.
• [23:00 → 30:06]
  Needs and Requests for Assistance
• James’ primary requests are:
  • Recovery of his car and personal belongings
  • A safe place to live that accepts dogs
  • Legal assistance to clarify his charges and obtain documentation
  • Community support to navigate his current challenges
• The host provides James with a temporary phone number (808-385-7197) for contact and offers to help publicize his situation.
• Attempts to find towing records and police reports have been unsuccessful or unclear.
• The host invites community members to help locate the car or provide assistance.
• [30:06 → 39:32]
  Discussion on Local Crime, Homelessness, and Social Services
• The area where James was attacked is near affluent residential neighborhoods, underscoring the unusual nature of the incident.
• The host recounts his own experience with theft and crime in the park area, emphasizing a rise in such incidents connected to homelessness.
• James describes the local park environment as populated by people struggling with addiction and poverty.
• He distances himself from crowds and negative influences to protect his sobriety, having been a recovering addict for 35 years.
• Various community services provide limited support such as weekly meals and occasional visits from aid groups.
• James prefers to maintain independence while receiving support and hopes to regain stability.
• [39:32 → 48:53]
  Personal Background and Character
• James has lived in Maui for 35 years.
• He has a history of labor work and is skilled as a “shade tree mechanic,” helping people with auto repairs without expensive shops.
• Known for his strong personality but generally gentlemanly demeanor, he has a reputation for generosity and resilience.
• Despite being a controlled alcoholic who drinks moderately, he avoids illegal drugs and pain medications.
• He is highly literate and passionate about reading, often finishing large books quickly.
• James values his dogs immensely, describing them as well-trained, protective, and loyal companions.
• [48:53 → 56:30]
  Closing Reflections and Future Outlook
• James remains uncertain about the full details of the incident and the reasons for the severe charges and subsequent dismissal.
• He hopes to obtain access to police reports and video footage to clarify what happened.
• The host urges the community to support James, emphasizing the need for compassion and collective responsibility.
• The show encourages viewers and listeners to reach out to James via the given phone number if they can provide help.
• The conversation ends with hopes for a positive resolution, including possible cooperation with police and community services to improve safety and support for vulnerable residents like James.

Key Insights and Conclusions

• James Hutchins is a long-time Maui resident facing significant hardships, including homelessness and legal confusion following a violent attack.
• He was charged with serious offenses (terroristic threatening) but the charges were dismissed without clear explanation or support.
• His car and personal belongings remain missing, complicating his ability to recover and find work.
• James’ two service dogs are essential to his survival and well-being but also limit his housing options.
• There are significant gaps in communication and support from law enforcement regarding James’ case.
• The incident sheds light on broader issues of homelessness, crime, and social service deficiencies in Maui.
• Community involvement and assistance are critical to help James regain stability, find housing, and access legal resources.

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Summary Timeline of Events

FAQ – Based on Transcript

Q: What happened to James Hutchins?
A: He was attacked in a park, suffered head injuries, was arrested on serious charges, but released after three days with charges dismissed.

Q: What is the status of his car and belongings?
A: His car was found abandoned about a mile from the attack site; personal belongings including phone and wallet remain missing.

Q: What support does James need?
A: Legal assistance, housing that accepts dogs, recovery of his car, and general community help.

Q: Does James have a history of substance abuse?
A: He is a recovering addict with 35 years sobriety and is a controlled alcoholic who drinks moderately.

Q: What role do his dogs play?
A: The dogs are service animals, highly trained and vital for his safety and emotional well-being.

Q: Has the police provided sufficient information or assistance?
A: No; there is confusion about charges, lack of communication, and no help recovering his car or belongings.

This comprehensive summary captures the full scope of the interview, focusing on facts, context, and the broader implications for community and social issues in Maui, strictly based on the provided transcript.

Full Transcript

00:00:09 – 00:01:36
Good morning everyone. Aloha. It’s August 18th, 2025 and this year is running away. Welcome to the show. This is the neutral zone. Maui neutralzone.com up on the web and YouTubedream Maui number one. But here we’re at 88.5 FM. The voice of Maui simalcast on Akaku Maui community media channel 55. This is the neutral zone. I have a guest every week unless I’m out for whatever reason and um run them again or have a a subhost and I do interviews people on different subjects. This week I had an unusual

00:00:52 – 00:02:05
situation and I Mr. James Hutchins is here. Some of you know him, probably many of you don’t. Do you know all these people? Probably. You can’t even see them, but I’m sure they all know me, of course. Well, I was coming home on oh gosh, Wednesday, getting my mail and washing my car actually and I can’t see terribly well. I suddenly see a guy walking at me like, who’s walking at me here at And it’s James. Except it wasn’t just this gentleman you see here, handsome gentleman. he had. And if you’ll he’ll

00:01:29 – 00:02:35
turn or you look on the the Facebook a little bit, you will discover his face was swollen. Uh you’ve done a really masterful job of hiding the fact that you have stitches all could you do me a favor just to I know we’re on radio and on TV. We’ll put up some pictures afterward in the second viewing. You’ll see you have stitches. Show them where. Turn there. Okay. No, you don’t have to put your hand in front. You can just show them. It starts from here. Yeah. And goes all the way down to my temple.

00:02:02 – 00:03:11
Oh, how did that happen to you, Mr. I have no clue. You have no clue? Well, he walked up to me and I thought, “What is going on, James?” I’d met James years ago and we become friends. His mother lived at the complex where I’m living at, apartment. But even before that, we were friends. I met him, he saw me on TV. How many years ago? Oh, 30 years. Easy. God. long time ago. And um you’ve had your own uh you know life all this time. I’ve known you and you’ve been great and things have gotten

00:02:37 – 00:03:35
more difficult in the world and I’ve seen you’ve gone houseless. In fact, it’s even more difficult when you have two beautiful, wonderful trained dogs. They’re now service dogs. That’s great. But still, what do you do here? And um he’s been living out of his car. couple of car changes here and there and difficult and experience, right? But when he walked up to my car, it’s like, “What the heck happened to you?” What happened to you? Where what would you arrive there with? Where did you come

00:03:07 – 00:04:16
from? I walked from the courthouse to your place. A little bit louder if you can. Yeah. Uh I walked from the courthouse to your place after 3 days of being in solitary confinement and not being medical uh treatment ex minus the stitches that was you were at the hospital. You tell me that you woke up. So try to tell this in a way that I can understand. You came to me from the courthouse. They released you. What they release you from? What happened? Uh they they released me from the county jail to go to court. What did they

00:03:41 – 00:04:49
charge you with? Uh, first was the the the paper. I’m going to make it shorter for you. Terroristic threatening. First degree. The next day, a terroristic threatening call in the other side of the island had an officer die. So, this is heavyweight stuff when you say terroristic threatening. So, you were charged with terroristic threat threatening when? Monday. Tell me. And then Wednesday they let you out and said you’re done. Well, they did they didn’t come up with the charges and they you’re cut. What’s this? What

00:04:16 – 00:05:14
happened? They did not come up with the charges until the third day, but they they wrote something down, but I’m not privy to the documents or anything. So, you need a lawyer to get your documents of what’s going on. Yeah, like video cam. But you were released for terroristic threatening. That’s quite a charge. Well, the first one was supposedly holding a knife to a lady’s throat, which is When you say the first one, there’s more than No, that’s the first charge they The

00:04:44 – 00:05:55
first thing they told me when I was in the hospital and I came to and they’re stitching my head up. Oh, you were handcuffed in the hospital. When was this? Monday. Uh the 11th. Monday. Last Monday. Okay. And it was in the afternoon, you mentioned about 1:00. You were in the hospital. Uh well well when I had inter the interaction. So give me that story. I mean you guys would like to hear the setup for this. Here you are. I know you were taking someone that was leaving the island and you were driving back to where you stay

00:05:19 – 00:06:34
normally which is in one of the parks there in South Kihei. Yes sir. rather than point a finger focus, we’ll let the the police and others that may come on or help make clarification of this identify a word. So, here you are. You’re in one of the parks in K where you stay during the day and night. You got to get run somewhere. That’s why you have your car. I get it. So, there you are in the afternoon after dropping someone off at the airport. Take it. And then I was going just been back at the park for 20 minutes and I

00:05:56 – 00:07:13
was walking to my car to roll a cigarette and a person attacked me while I was in my driver’s seat and my door was open a little bit. So I came over to the window section, hit me, poked me. I grabbed my knife and said, “Back out of my property. Leave me alone.” Then he lunged against the pool body in my car and tried to take the knife away from me. I kicked him outside, you know, by the door, you know. I open the door. Did you know this person? No. I Okay. And all I know is uh it was squashed or whatever. You know, I

00:06:35 – 00:07:35
got him away from my car and I told him, “Don’t come back.” And then what happened? I have no clue until What does that mean? What happened next? I have no clue until I woke up at the hospital. Did someone hit you? What happened at you? Do you have any idea what happened at all? You just blacked out, lost consciousness. Yeah. Bloss train of thought, I guess, or something like you were in the middle of it. And you pro were you doing alcohol or drugs at the time in any way? A little bit of

00:07:05 – 00:08:23
Oh, yeah. A little little some, you know, a couple beers and Okay. So, you were relaxing in the park. Yeah. and I just hanging with my dogs and doing my usual thing. And someone came through the window after fighting you, you sounds like you blacked out or whatever after whatever happened. But as I understood it when you came to me and first thing I thought of is heck, you have to have a phone to function. And wouldn’t you know, I had a uh phone to function, but I didn’t turn off my Facebook or

00:07:44 – 00:08:50
whatever. And you had posted on Facebook at least once and a couple of times. Once. Once. Well, it got a lot. Talk about uh breaking out some news. People thought I was in jail and wasn’t exactly sure what was going on, but uh that was your personal message on your account that you were I thought someone else my family, you know, talking to my families and friends. And uh I appreciate you calling me your uncle first of all for all you uh women out there. That always makes me sound older so I never Why do you mean uncle?

00:08:17 – 00:09:31
But uh here in Hawaii, we have relationships that are kama and we have relationships that are hai son or daughter and I’ve sort of adopted you. Your mom was a friend of mine and uh she loved you. She loved you very much. Well, I just know that um you’ve always been really upstanding. You kept me in automobile when uh the cost of expenses is too much and you know you’re a good worker. You were working. Then you had a hip replacement operation. Knee knee replacement and that’s been quite a struggle to get

00:08:54 – 00:10:01
back and with all that’s going on to be able to find work. Yeah. Cuz uh after the whooping I got my whole body that they they You’re not in good shape. Yeah. And I’m thinking I’m probably going to have to get my right knee done, too, because they just Well, what? Well, that’s why I say it’d be nice to see. Now, we’ll tell you the story. I thought it was interesting. We got a phone. We got a phone and got you all set up and then we got you some a little bit of food and where to be and a

00:09:28 – 00:10:29
blanket and nowhere to be and some. We really need place for you to be and we need help for you and your dogs. Yes. I went and picked your dogs up at the shelter with you. Yep. That was your priority one. And they were they were always good with my dogs and did not charge me for housing my dogs. And wherever you’ve been with your dogs, they’re incredibly trained. I mean, when he says stay there, they stay. If dogs can be walking by and barking, they stay. They’re unbelievable. And in all

00:09:58 – 00:11:08
kinds of ways, they’re amazing little dogs. They really are. Two girls. They love me and that’s all matters. Give me a peace of mind. But you need a place to be and uh in the park with no car. Yeah, that that stolen or to So maybe people will reach out. I hope. I’m going to uh make sure that we leave a phone number um at least once through the show. Okay. 808 3857197. Yes, sir. And I may post it at the uh at the end. But yeah, I lost my phone, my wallets. The officers did not secure my car.

00:10:33 – 00:11:36
They didn’t secure your car. And wait, was your car supposed to be secured at the park? You have no idea because I wasn’t at the park. Well, what where was this incident? Uh Keon Kai. Wait, what? When? Here’s what happened. You and I then after we checked to see what was going on at the park after getting you the phone and getting you, we went up to the police station in K. And what happened there? Uh they one they were surprised I was released and I was there and there comes a sergeant out to meet me very nice

00:11:05 – 00:12:14
gentleman and he said um you know hi oh yeah that incident and you said that you were released and he said really really we have videoed and it’s like I got documentation so he obviously had seen one perception of whatever happened that you don’t even know right you don’t even know I have no clue so that would be a nice discovery and um let you go. So obviously they must have thought that you weren’t at fault, but they didn’t have your car. We still don’t have the car. If you’re a

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towing yard, please a uh maroon Chrysler Sebring. What kind of year? Uh PWZ480. There you go. Anyway, con um all my personal stuff was everything. So this was not only an intrusion into your world that they let you go. That’s not like uh sort of saying uh we’ll slap you on the wrist. That’s quite a slap. So you still don’t have any of your personal stuff. You’re living on grace. Yeah. And uh you could use some help. But now this story though intrigues me. When we went to see the officer

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and he came out with a slip on paper, not the report or anything, that had an address of where this incident was and that your car was left there and it was 28 Khale Drive, which is up off Kiona Kai, which is almost a mile away from where you were. How did your car get from point A to point B? I have no clue. How? And and if you were doing drugs, were you driving? No, I have no clue. But could you have driven? I don’t with people fighting you and bleeding all over the world. So something happened between point A and point Z and

00:12:55 – 00:13:57
there’s distance there. Obviously daytime, right? Middle of day time. It was. So there should be some people have seen this whether it be at Khale Street or whether it be down in the park. So this could be some investigation to support in some ways. And all the cams from all the police. Yeah. Do we have that? I’m sure they must be. Yeah. They have the the body cams and the the the videos. You said many times if I’m guilty I’ll say, but you didn’t. So far I don’t hear any guilt here. You’ve been

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you were attacked in your car and suddenly you wake up in the hospital and they tell you you put a knife to someone’s throat and your car isn’t even there. It’s somewhere else. So, there’s some pieces missing. None of my personal property was brought in. The only thing came with me when I went to jail was my hat and my belt. That’s I saw those orange pants. I’m guessing cuz I’m happily happy to say I’ve not had an experience in jail and don’t hope to, but those they issued you those

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pants. Yep. Since I got into the holding the solidary, they put in solitary. So they were protecting you from general population. I not I don’t think so. I think they were just keep me in a hole so nobody seen what I looked like. You mean you were Well, I got to say in one week you what do they say? You clean up good. You you know I have pictures. We’ll put some up. I didn’t like to shock my audiences, but you this whole thing, where am I? This side. This was all swollen really badly and everything

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was red and swollen in your cheek and like you say a week now your whole body is aching because some massive attack on your body enough to something happened with a gash etc. Well, not just a gas like back. The thing that I wonder and maybe you guys wonder is uh so this guy doesn’t have an attorney. He’d like to know what’s going on and he’s in jail and who you made a phone call I bet. Imagine you called an attorney. No, you call who? Your brother. No. Yep. Your brother. Called my brother and he we told him to

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call you because we could not get in touch with you. And I’m not an attorney. You know that. I know that. But but I got, you know, people think because I’m on TV, I’m stronger than dirt and can do magic things. I don’t try to do magic things. I just try to be there and stand strong with you. And uh, you know, I think maybe that’s why police and others still respect who I am. I’ve been here 37 years and what I say is what I mean, you know, and I’m a standup guy. One thing is it hurts me to

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see you hurt this way. was hard enough all these years to be helping you and because you had two dogs and you have a let’s call it a strong personality. Oh yeah. You know you know that thing about take Mr. Clean and put him in a bottle. I don’t exactly know if that’s a good reference, but this guy knows how to square. If there was seven words that you couldn’t say on a radio, you might cover some of them all most all the time. I’m doing my best not to. See, this is a mild James Hutchins. If

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he was giving you a full-blown counting, I’m I’m going to give them to a reporter who can write down words that I can’t say, but uh you have strong feelings about this, I bet. But you’ve been you’ve always been a gentleman to me. But uh it’s like, what’s that one about? Don’t poke the bear. Someone came at you in your car in the park in the middle of the day. My only guess is this was someone that felt comfortable enough to make an attack in the middle of the day. Uh

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police, do you know that there are people here that will make attacks in the middle of the day? That’s what I said. What? In parks here in Kihei? I remember. That’s not the first time it’s happened to me. No, but at night I mean there’s there could be stories. I was going to bring uh Lisa Darcy on here talking about houselessness in the recent sweeps, but I know a lot about houselessness. I’ve watched and known people that have become houseless over these last years and some that have been there for years.

00:17:24 – 00:18:40
Like you pretty well are houseless because you have two dogs and people don’t want dogs. Yeah. And making money here has been crazy hard. And unless you have a steady job and I imagine it’s not easy to do when you don’t have a steady place. So it’s it’s been rough, but you’ve been surviving. I try to live simple. And you work when you can and you are capable. Well, at the moment, if we find your car, find the car. No one destroyed it. his work tools, his never mind his ID and his driver’s

00:18:02 – 00:19:14
license and his phone and his right but and dog treats. Couple of dog treats. You probably always have dog treats. These dogs are so great. If you’ll meet them, you will not ever forget them. They are Betsy and Beauty. What are they? They’re like Jack Russell Chihuahua. Jack Russell Chihuahua. That sounds like someone that was a dog made a raid on the other house, huh? Up there in and Betsy the mom just incredibly loving dog and beauty only a little bit younger. I guess there’s one of those what do they call

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it? Incest stories. No, Betsy got knocked up on her first seat by her dad. See that? So, but beauty is beautiful girl. But anyway, both of them are incredibly nice and controlled. Don’t bite. They bark and speak. They’re incredible. Yeah. So, what do you think you want to do now? Do you have any plan for how to move forward? Have you found an attorney? I know we’re I towing. We got to find the car first. Did the police give you any help? No. They give you any list of towing companies? Nope. They obviously deal

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with someone that knows about towing companies. Who else can we call to get a list of towing companies or is there a central something? Anything? Why don’t you call the abandoned vehicle people? I did. What’ they say this morning? They said, “Nope, we did not tow your car.” Did they know that? I went by the baseard to look for my car. I did not see it. Do they might know of all the towing companies? If any of you please please help and reach out. 8083857197. Is that right? Yeah. By the way, that’s not my number.

00:19:45 – 00:20:51
That’s his number. by using my phone. It’s a complicated affair here. But um I hope we find your phone because all your contacts, your wallet, everything. And the thing about having nowhere to live, a lot of people are houseless here. There are a lot of people living on the street with nowhere to be. When you’re out there at night, do you hear a lot of rustling in the bushes and trees out there, James? No, cuz people pretty much uh stay away from me. They stay away from you. And why? Cuz

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you’re sleeping. You got two dogs. And they they know my dogs will alert me. And then and you’re you’re you’re what do they say? You’re capable when you’re awake, right? Yeah. You can defend yourself, right? But I don’t know you as an aggressive guy. Are you an aggressive guy? I have never seen you that way. I can be. You know that. But do you I’ve never seen you. I don’t start none. I don’t start none. I finish it. You have a hot mouth. Yep. And you could probably encourage someone

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to want to smack you. I’ve had a few moments, but I don’t do that cuz we’ve You know what I found? You really are incredibly gentleman. And you know what do they say? Every time I see you reading a book, you amazing. We have a friend, a neighbor that was reading books and uh I was suddenly run into books. I could give them to James. He just eats them up. Enjoying them. Huh? Yeah. I can I can read a book pretty much in one day, day and a half. 600 pages. Wow. Let me ask you a question. Have you

00:21:23 – 00:22:20
tried to find uh work in your area? It’s sort of hard to do, isn’t it? And what do you do with your dogs? Not since this happened. No. Yeah. Because I I needed You can’t leave dogs in the car and work a day. Even if you didn’t have no car. I’ve done I’ve done that before. You bring them to the job site and but now I don’t have a car. So So you need help, right? Yep. And I can’t, you know, the two bags I have that, you know, the food and stuff, I can’t be walking around every

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day. No, I understand. And you know, we know many people with shopping carts around this island. And uh some of them do that by choice, which is really a trip. I mean, I don’t want to point him out more than he knows, but 30 years ago, maybe more, Lono wrote a song called Little Red Man. And all this guy said to me was when I told him, “I’m not that little. He’s not that little.” But this guy’s been out hitching and walking for 30 plus years here. But that’s he does that

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by choice. And maybe he has, you know, since Ronald Reagan stopped having mental health facilities, a lot of people that might have gone a different route toward their repair or their help don’t have that. And so the streets are mixed with all kinds of people in all kinds of condition and the public has seemed to lump them into one thing, dangerous, crazy instead of how can we help these people? Some are working and can’t live in it. Don’t have a way to live. Some don’t have a job. Some want to have a

00:23:00 – 00:24:18
job. We are so far behind the eightball. I don’t want to change subjects. I spoke to AI this morning about housing that you’ll love that report by the way coming up. What about this thing is most important to you? What do you want out of this? You seem to be somehow resigned to the fact that you know anyway what do you want? I want compensation. What does that mean? You want a car place to live? Yeah. I want someone not a place to live. What? What is And how do you deserve that? because they did not do their uh

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due diligence on their job by caring because this ain’t my first rodeo that I’ve been arrested or anything. And what they do bring your ID and you have a car. If they’re not towing it, they keep the they get, you know, bring the key with you with your wallet, with a phone so you can make contacts. Well, they did not do this and they already know you and your car, right? Yep. Okay. So, that is that is odd, right? Um, police officers, we really love you. I mean, honestly, I have no gripe and

00:24:21 – 00:25:39
I’ve seen him with police is not the problem, but that does seem like something is screwy. Why? Someone and something in these reports are going to identify ways of how could that not be your car? How could they not know that? How could And why was it a mile away from where you were? These are really big big holes in this story that are deserving of some investigation. And I want to say sadly on the heels of a horrible murder of an officer the next day and that was a going on a call of terroristic threatening. So you

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can imagine if someone in whatever was going on there in the park called the police, they come loaded and ready to beat the heck out of someone if that’s what’s going on. So but the fact that they let you go and that this whole thing is a big mystery to you is a mystery to me. I don’t understand that. And I hope that we can clear that up. Someone here and get hopefully they’ll offer and you need some kind of help. What you said. So that’s one thing. You’d like to have somewhere to live or a car or

00:25:37 – 00:26:57
something. What What else do you want? That’s it. If I got a vehicle, uh maybe caretak that this guy was beaten up and still not. Was that me or you? Someone’s calling in. Well, I guess that’s they’re going to ask me to answer a phone. Let’s see if I can figure it out. Okay, hold that question unless they can bring me the answer. Uh, if they can bring it, then you got it. Otherwise, see, that’s the the power of having a station with some money. We’ll have an engineer to answer the phone like Joe

00:26:17 – 00:27:31
Rogan does. So, I still don’t see it. So, no matter how many times I’m looking here. Do you see a phone, young man? I don’t see nothing. I don’t either. Okay. So, there we go. But this is a call-in talk show. I’m actually happy that someone’s calling, but it is odd that I can’t find a phone. Anyway, so you’re not too demanding. Would you like to know what happened and through that mystery time? I I would like to, you know, if I did something bad, I would like I I I I operate like

00:26:53 – 00:28:04
this. I am innocent until you can prove that I’m guilty. Same as the court say. Yeah. All right. I asked, you’re telling me I’m I did something bad and I ask what was it? You don’t give me information. You don’t give me paperwork and you allow my stuff to get towed away or stolen. I don’t know because I was locked up in a hole for three days. No help. No, no, nothing. And then threw you out, huh? Basically, and then threw you out. Oh, well, yeah. I went to court and they

00:27:30 – 00:28:32
straight up before I even went to court said, “Yeah, we’re going to be dismissed.” I don’t know how many of you guys out there have had this kind of an experience. Boy, that sounds strange to me. If someone had me for a weekend and then dismissed me and I don’t get to even know what’s going on with the charges and all this blood and all this stuff that has happened to me and then who did who did this? Who moved the car? Who any of this? Yeah. I think we would like to see a fuller

00:28:02 – 00:29:21
answer, right? I know. I would I mean that’s the bottom line here. Now we actually have a little bit of time which is good. I want to make sure that I cover this subject in a way that is fair. So again, if you have calls to make, you can call 8715554 and you’ll get Akaku uh TV media. If you call uh 873 3534, I think it is, that’s the call-in line. But if I can’t find the look at this when I said I can’t find the phone, it’s right in front of me. See what I mean about blindness?

00:28:42 – 00:30:07
You can feel free to call back again. No, no, don’t say Sophie. We got to find out where it is on the board. Anyway, maybe that’ll make for another show or some replies to you. 8083857197. Yeah, that’s where you call if you want to help. We really need help for this guy. Okay. Um, when you had this incident, the part that there’s lots of parts that are really missing and confusing to me. You were in the park and someone out of the blue. Yeah. Attacked you. Yep. Basically fast, walked up to my car

00:29:26 – 00:30:46
and jumped in my car. Why? I have no clue. This is broad daylight. Nothing hiding, right? I’m in my usual spot rolling a cigarette cuz the lifeguards know me. Everybody knows, you know, knows me. So, and you know, I think there’s people out there seen what happened and just don’t want to be involved. Yeah. Well, uh maybe some uh help from our community can help us. And if not the people in the park, which I hope that they will come forward because I think quote making the park a safer place is

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something that everyone will appreciate. There may have been tourists, there may have been locals there. We don’t know. And we hope to be able to discover. But the other part up into a residential up into a residential area real houses live. By the way, if you’re not on Maui, these are like 1 point I don’t want to be shy. One and a half million dollar houses, million dollar houses. Someone lives there, they’re watching around their property. So, someone’s looking out to see what’s

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going on outside in the middle of the day. And then when we went back that evening, right, remember the two days later, looking for the car and you walked down the street there, someone came out looking to see what was going on. So during the day, you’d think someone would be looking, right? So that that’s worthy of some investigation. What happened in the middle of the day in Kihei? And by the way, you could probably tell this is south now. That’s near Wa. So this is could have happened to anybody, right?

00:31:15 – 00:32:24
This is this is not something all you people who are visiting, maybe you think that uh crime doesn’t happen here. I don’t really know statistics, but I haven’t had too much personal Oh, wait a minute. Oh, yes, I have. Sitting in the park, running around the park, having my car broken into at 11:00 on Friday, took all my stuff. Remember that one? And the guy used my credit card and showed on the hardware guy and they gave me the picture and through the internet, we located who this guy was.

00:31:50 – 00:33:06
But that doesn’t stop. You know, all this homelessness is creating a level of crime here that is off the charts. I wouldn’t be surprised to say you see all kinds of people. Do you see any kind of criminal element down there? Well, there drug addicts, uh, Z’s seeing there all the parks and side of the road, you know. I mean, we we we lost the tough love act back when, you know, when we were kids, we got tough love if we did something wrong. Now, it’s just self- entitlement, which is you’re entitled and you’ll do

00:32:28 – 00:33:34
whatever you want to do and take what you want. Well, it’s a horrible way to be really. So you when you’re out there in the parks now I’ve heard others say they’ve tried to sleep in the parks and they’ve gotten robbed. Yeah. And they’ve gotten stabbed and they’ve gotten told to not be there. They’ve gotten sprinkled on. You can imagine you’ve heard maybe you don’t hear stories because you don’t have uh television but you watch enough on the net. There’s a shortage of

00:33:01 – 00:34:20
housing here in Maui. I imagine you’ve come upon this in your days of looking. Yep. So, um, what do you do when you have two dogs? Best I can. You know, I mean, my dogs are my life, but I don’t have my dogs and there’s no reason to live. But thank goodness you got your dogs and they’re with you. So, excuse me. If you could find work, you’d work, right? Oh, yeah. In better, there’s only certain amount of time I can work because my body is just, you know, the knee recovery.

00:33:41 – 00:34:39
Oh, right now you’ve been trashed. I’m not hopefully now you’re going to get some help and hopefully you’ll be reaching out into the community, but I hope that people will see this show and reach out. You can always call me uh you can always find me 80887-45900 but James is directly 808-385 7197. See that? It’s new to you too, huh? I know that’s not his normal number. Hopefully you get your regular number back here soon. Yeah. And hopefully you’ll get right now on an

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emergency basis from some people in our community. Yeah. And that that phone number it’s 500 8164. But I I doubt it’s going to ring except in your car unless Yeah. No, I’m uh I’m just talking about buying another phone at the end of the month, you know. Yeah. Just give me Oh, you can retrieve it from a distance, can’t you? And you had a uh a password on your phone, so your data is safe. Here’s a call. Let’s see if I can do this. Now, I don’t know which one to pick.

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Let’s see if we do it. I know that. Let’s see how this goes, folks. Hello. Hello. Are you there? Oh, well, you can see I am not able to hear you. Are you there? Who’s this? Norman, you are on the air, but you’re not being broadcast because I haven’t figured out which button. Do you have a question for our guest or no? Okay. Well, he you called the wrong number. You don’t win the prize. Sorry. That was different. That was Norman. In case you see Norman, tell him he had a wrong number.

00:35:45 – 00:36:54
Maybe they were calling for Norman before. Well, Norman was calling for someone before. But we’re a callin. I like to think of us as a callin, call out radio show because if we have a hot issue, I could pick up the phone here, someone would help me with the tech part and call some of these places while on the air, which always would be interesting to see the responses we get, but I don’t think we’re at that point here. Well, I said, well, you know, you’ve been so respectful and the police that I’ve seen

00:36:18 – 00:37:39
interact with you have been fine all this time and all these years. It’s only when things happen around, and I guess they happen around because you’re in the park and some of the other people in the park carry some attitudes. Yeah. So, we don’t know if this person that attacked you is someone that is brazen enough to attack someone in the middle of the day in a park in Maui and feels that somehow they have the ability to do that and have no retribution. Oh, they got they got the retribution,

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but I mean I never even hit the person. That’s right. I understand. I I just pushed him away from my car. So, whoever you were holding with a knife at their throat, according to what that police officer said, BS, this person doesn’t know that this is not going to happen. Okay, we’ll do it again. I really like to see this thing. There was no You obviously must have right to see these videos and to see a full report. Yeah. And I don’t know how long a full report takes. Do you have a police report

00:37:38 – 00:38:52
number? I have um just from the dismissed uh charges from the court. Anyway, so we’ll look for a number there and it’s probably found under the Jeff system. You know these systems that are online. So you can look things up by case. You guys know that you can look things up by case. You can look it them up by driver’s license. You can find it by name. We have a great system if you know where to find information. And here locally, we have a lot of things that are helpful if you can find them. Oh, and if they

00:38:13 – 00:39:27
have room for you. We are so crowded and overtaxed on the services needed here by people. It’s difficult. You do get help though, right? Even in the park. I I Oh, I get uh I get friends and family, you know, like you come and come say hi and bring stuff for the dogs and me. And you told me about Cup of Cold Water. Cup of cold wateries that come out to the parks. Yeah. And then you got Salvation Army comes out and, you know, gets you a a hot meal. And then you got uh Is this once a week? Once a day? Uh once

00:38:51 – 00:40:13
once a week. Once a week. Yeah. And I know different days for each one. St. Teresa’s has um that other group uh the uh the dinner at nighttime, right? There’s a dinner meal that they serve at the Catholic Church at Leo and Kihei Road. That’s a long way from where you are. Yeah. But I the crowd I don’t associate myself with the crowd that’s down there. Yeah. or that’s bad juju. I I I stay by myself. I don’t like crowds. It’s select few of people can get near me and hang out with me.

00:39:32 – 00:40:57
You’re not bad to hang out with. You’re not So you’re just saying that the crowd of people there are needy. Well, I don’t want I’m a recovering addict for 35 years. I don’t need to be around people who are going to try to talk me into going back to doing this stuff. I don’t need it. Good sense. Good sense. So, I still want to be sure and I don’t want to harp on it, but I want to look through that time sequence again. So, whatever number this is, either someone will come in and help me or this

00:40:14 – 00:41:48
person’s going to be really frustrated. because they’re wondering who’s doing that to me. That was me. That was me. Um you um I when I ever I look at you, I think of only one thing that you were a big supporter of Maui Shop for Less. What was the name of that show? Maui Maui.net. No, Maui for Less.net. Maui for Less. Are they around anymore? No, they they shut down uh shoots at least at least some years ago. 10 years ago. Yeah. Well, I remember when you got all their prizes cuz you decided you were going to

00:41:01 – 00:42:17
give them the chance to tattoo it on your body, which I did on my neck. So, does anyone ever ask you about it? Uh, actually somebody just asked me about it like a week and a half ago. They said, “Can I look at it?” And I was like, “Yeah.” Yeah. You have any other stores on you? No. Uh, tattoos? Yeah. I got You have a Toys for Less Toys R Us over here on your arm? Oh, no. No. But I have my uh my BW chat with my heart and then I got my Sagittarius. But I’m really uh glad you’re okay

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because when I saw you on Wednesday night Yeah. you were in very bad shape. I still am. But you still are. But you like to downplay it. And I’m trying to upplay it because what happened to you is serious and super important to anyone in our community. And I don’t want to gloss over it. And I’m sure the police would like to know about it so they can do their uh surveillance or however they do. Do you see have a police presence down there? Uh they come they drive by and every once in a while they uh they’ve been

00:42:14 – 00:43:15
pulling in into the parking lot and stopping and they see they look at me every time they drive by. Well, they know who you are. Yeah. Right. You don’t have an issue. I got it. So, at night, it’s got to be hard when you don’t have anywhere to sleep. I’m so sorry for that. I hope people will reach out to help you right now. And maybe there’ll be some kind of solution. I hope that we can find your car. That’s the big one. That’s the big one. Yeah. And then I got to do the storage,

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too, still. Yeah. Which is put a new lock on it because all my keys are were in my car. Oh, I understand. What’s What do you want to say? I mean, we eating it up here. We got a little bit of time left. I want to see where your head’s at and what your heart’s at. What do you hope to go after this? Get a little help would be nice so you can be self-sufficient again. And then go looking for work or maybe find work through this, huh? And a place to live. That will accept dogs. I will not.

00:43:21 – 00:44:32
That’s why I’m houseless because if you know if I did a caretake job which I had you know remember in haiku I took care I took care of where you had the ability to keep animal with you. Yeah and I that’s I love more than anything just be able to look okay landscaping or built you know picture up this stuff or whatever. Well, maybe as we put this out, we’ll uh hear from people, you know. 8083857197. I feel like a game show host here. So, what were you doing before? Were you a mechanic before?

00:44:01 – 00:45:11
I’ve been in labor my whole life. But you also I like to think of you as a shade tree mechanic, which means if it’s something that isn’t going to require any kind of equipment or specialized stuff, you’ve been amazing. You’ve helped me with so many things where I know if I went to a shop, they’d still have my car waiting to the rest of the money. I’m always amazed when someone says, “Oh yes, I changed my brakes, 1300.” “Oh yes, I’ve uh someone gave me a

00:44:36 – 00:45:46
tuneup 600.” I don’t know. I’m maybe I’m living in a different century or something. That’s why I do the best I can to help somebody not have to pay. I know you’ve keeped a lot of people in their automobiles and you always been a gentleman. So, hearing that you got attacked, that concerns me. And that’s why I’d like to hear some more from the people around the area who were there at either of the locations here. I mean, this gets me. Have you I guess you can’t

00:45:11 – 00:46:36
really do it yourself. You can’t go walking in an area. Maybe the police can or their detectives can go and check out what happened and maybe we’ll get access to those body cams and we’ll report in anything to be able to clarify. But unprovoked, arrested for terroristic threatening whoever that was that you had supposedly under knife. Yeah. Which is must have been doing something. What is all that? But then like I said at the end of everything done it was just uh it’s terroristic threatening.

00:45:54 – 00:47:05
But with a knife, you know, like said they told me two different things. Was a knife in somebody’s neck. Did I cut him or anything? No. Okay. Uh, did I do anything fiscal? No. All right. And then, but they were treating you. I mean, terroristic threatenings. Those are big words. No. As far as I know, when you say that, it’s, you know, basically telling the guy, “Shut up my house. I’m going to kick your ass.” Well, just like we heard the following. My bad. That’s right. There we go. One slip.

00:46:28 – 00:47:45
That’s it. Now you know though you can kick it. Okay. But yeah, I got you. See, once you slipped in, it’s like, okay, what am I going to do now? I That’s all right. No, but I mean I don’t I have not seen you ever as long as I don’t lose control. I don’t lose control. I know you. You know that. I know you 20 25 years already. Yeah. 25 years. So this whole thing, the fact that they let you out and said nothing about it, that I understand because I know you and I’ve seen you and you’re not a

00:47:07 – 00:48:23
terrorist, threatening guy. No, but I will tell the truth. But they must have felt the same when they let you go. So what happened in the middle? Well, they that’s the part we want. That’s what I believe is the reason why it got dismissed because all the physical harm that I had on me, which is on their body counts when they detained me. Like that I don’t remember anything, but they detain me. I forget the names of all the victims across the country that get knees and things across their throat and then die.

00:47:46 – 00:48:52
There’s many of them. Yeah. So, that could have happened to you. I’m glad you didn’t have that experience. Well, I still can’t feel my hands. They’re still known. Well, you I’m sure you’re going to talk to an attorney, so I not going to get into that subject, but I’m sure you need a police report and copies of the videos if you’d be they’d be so kind, right? or help us understand how to solve this to discover what other crimes were performed that got this man into this situation. You

00:48:19 – 00:49:27
never heard anything from anyone else getting arrested that day? No. Nothing. Right. So, whatever this was is going to be interesting discovery, isn’t it? Everybody’s staying away from me pretty much. Oh, yeah. Well, I’d stay away from you if especially if they saw something happen and they know you don’t have a car and they all know that. Yeah. Have they anyone been helpful? Nope. They come play dominoes or dice, but I don’t have those games anymore cuz they were in my car.

00:48:53 – 00:50:12
Right. You’ve had a hard time. I’m sorry. Well, let’s see what we can do about finding the car. And if we can’t and whatever, I say we, you’re part of the wei out there. That’s the best part about being a community here in Maui. We all watch out for each other. And those that don’t watch out for each other, I I beg you to take a review of that policy. You know, the reason that I’ve seen such good care from you and the reason that I’ve always found is because I’m good to others. They don’t

00:49:32 – 00:50:44
I’ve never seen like I said, I can’t imagine when I’m hearing this and hearing that you were a terroristic threatening just that alone is gigantic surprise to me. That’s quite a charge. I don’t know. And again, it’s horrible that an officer was killed here the next day. Oh, yeah. And I’m not trying to play on it except it’s really true. Terroristic threatening call goes out. Same thing has happened to you. So those officers are ready to do something. So whatever happened, they

00:50:07 – 00:51:15
did something and then discovered, I don’t know, oops. It’s an oops if they let you go, right? Oh yeah. Does seem like an oops. Not an oop. Oops. Because I didn’t do nothing. That’s what I’m saying. So, how do you do nothing? Your car gets moved a mile away. Gets towed. No one there is taking care of what’s going on with you. They knew enough to take the dogs. Yeah, they took my dogs. That was the worst part of being in jail, worrying about my dogs getting put down or something.

00:50:42 – 00:51:49
Oh, god. No. We were on that immediately. I called the shelter to be sure that everyone was there. And they love your dogs. They’ve seen them a couple of times over these years. All my dogs, at least eight dogs since I’ve been here. You’ve been here a long time, right? Yep. 35 years. Wow. Hear that? Young people of Maui, old people of Maui, there are people that have been here that many years who need help. Capable, has two dogs. I mean, you could be a dog trainer, actually. You’re

00:51:16 – 00:52:23
unbelievable. Those dogs are unbelievable. And they just are lick factories. I can’t get around them without them trying to lick the heck out of me. Oh, they’re love dogs. Yeah. And they’re just very, you know, it says a lot about you that you can have such gentle animals around you. They’re amazing. Really amazing. But they can uh scare you. All I got to do is say certain words. and you know well but they if you say stay or now they know exactly what’s going on up top they’re like amazingly trained and uh

00:51:49 – 00:53:05
you know I’m sure the others would say attitude my god you know and they’re just amazing but you’re amazing you’ve been amazing because you’ve been able to survive here all these years working independently helping people all this time so now’s the time when you need some help. So, I hope so many you know James Hutchins help them. I’ve had you, my brother, my mom pass, you know, bless her, but I’ve had some I’ve had support, no place to live, no place to navigate

00:52:27 – 00:53:42
with your dogs. People think you need to give up your dogs, but not ready for that. It’s not going to happen. Yeah. Well, and I can’t see you moving away. I’d have no one to fix my car. That’s not true. But also, your dogs and just your whole lifestyle, I’ve never I don’t think of you as a taker. I think of you as a giver. You know, I’ve seen you just over these years working. And yeah, once in a while you can get a little bit over the top, rambunctious. Yep. But that’s usually, you know, I

00:53:04 – 00:54:12
bad day or something like that. Well, I always think of it as alcohol, but you don’t because you you I’m a controlled alcoholic. You know that controlled alcoholic? Is that the term? Cuz you don’t never see me like really stupidly where I’m staggering. No, I drink a beer every what four 45 minutes. 15 pack I could wake up with three beers the next day. It’s just I couldn’t if I had a 15 pack and I drank them in one day, I wouldn’t wake up for a bunch of days. You could drink 12 beers in a day. I

00:53:38 – 00:54:51
guess those of you out there who are sports fans, you say 12 beers? That’s nothing. We got a case. I don’t know. I don’t know how you do it. I do it all the time. I sip I sip my beer. I don’t chug it. But I mean, if I don’t have it, I don’t have it. Same with cigarettes. Okay. If I don’t have it, why am I going to get make a fuss about it? Good. So, so that’s right. That’s a controlled alcoholic. Meanwhile, uh, so if you have work, you work, right? You don’t doing drugs and

00:54:15 – 00:55:28
alcohol. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But you’ve chose I guess, you know, I know people that uh need to take pain medication and choose alcohol as their chosen Yeah. thing and they don’t take the pain medication. No, because uh I don’t want to be a drug addict again. I I did that when I in my teens, late teens and stuff. And no. Well, I’m always amazed when I uh see you like with all the things going on after your operation. Most people would take pain medication, but you didn’t. Ibuprofen’s good enough.

00:54:52 – 00:55:59
Wow. It’s like right now my whole body hurts. But we got about two minutes left and I don’t know if we’re satisfying the people out there or not. What do you think? I apologize if we’re not for what? I apologize if we’re not entertaining you. Well, you’re communicating great. I’m wondering if I’m asking you the right questions. If you have any questions you’d like uh asked, you can go to anywhere. Uh that’s Jason Schwartz, Jason Neutral Zone on Facebook. You can call,

00:55:24 – 00:56:32
you can text, you can smile. Anyway, we have a minute and a half left. James, thank you for coming on the show, being brave enough to come and sit here for an hour and open up with me. Oh, I appreciate it. And I hopefully uh we can learn something out of this whole damn thing. You can say damn there. You can say the word good. Yeah, we learn something from this whole damn thing. And we’d also like to be u getting things so that we can get a clear picture as a community on what this is all about. Maybe we can

00:55:59 – 00:57:00
work in a positive way with the police to make something out of this come that’s good. Wouldn’t that be good? I hope that you think so because that’s what I think. We got 50s something seconds to go. James, thank you for being here. Really been a pleasure. I um have some kind of prize for being on the show. I don’t know what it is yet. I’m like that other game Maui for Less game show guy. He had your attention. He kept giving you gifts. I I don’t want to. You can tattoo my

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name over here though on the butt. Thank you guys for joining us. I hope you’ll join us next.