MAMA PRESENTS… Jason Schwartz visits ELAN VITAL in his Wailuku gallery studio as well as at his Haiku studio location. Elan is an interesting character in the Maui art scene. Originally from NY, while here on Maui in the late 1990s and the following decade, he was known as the MOST original art pieces sold ins career, with more than 5000 originals…
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Summary & Transcript
The video transcript captures a rich and immersive exploration of artistry, creativity, and life on the Hawaiian island of Maui, centered around the renowned artist Elan Vital. The content opens with scenic descriptions of Maui’s natural beauty—blue skies, trade winds, whales, and island rhythms—setting a vibrant cultural and environmental context that deeply influences the artist’s work.
Elan Vital’s artistic journey is chronicled through a detailed studio visit and insightful conversations. His work spans multiple media, including sculpture, painting, and mixed media, with a unique focus on creating gemstone-like colors through layered pigments and translucent materials. Vital’s art is described as “meta-realistic,” seeking to reveal deeper, often unseen truths beneath surface appearances, akin to metaphysics applied visually. This philosophy extends to his creative process, where he develops his own materials and light installations that blend aesthetic beauty with health benefits, such as full-spectrum light that positively impacts human well-being.
The transcript also delves into Vital’s personal history, his engineering background, and his evolution as an artist on Maui. His early sculptural works, including the iconic whale sculpture gifted to the community, highlight his deep connection to the island’s ecology and cultural heritage. Throughout, Vital emphasizes courage as the core requirement for artistic and personal growth, equating it with the pursuit of bliss and truth. He also reflects on politics, leadership, and self-governance, underscoring the importance of authenticity and integrity over mere popularity.
The narrative is interspersed with warm interactions between Vital and the presenters, revealing a genuine camaraderie and mutual respect. The interview touches on themes of beauty, art as a fundamental human expression, and the transformative power of creativity. The piece concludes with a heartfelt acknowledgment of Vital’s contribution to Maui’s artistic landscape and a call for continued cultural and environmental stewardship.
Highlights
[00:00] ? Scenic introduction to Maui’s natural beauty: blue skies, trade winds, and whale watching.
[05:25] ? Introduction of Elan Vital, master artist known for sculpture and painting.
[12:09] ?ﾸﾏ Insight into Vital’s studio setup emphasizing natural light and air for painting.
[14:39] ? Vital’s unique technique of layering pigments to create gemstone-like colors.
[24:31] ? Explanation of “meta-realism” in Vital’s work—a vision beyond the visible surface.
[37:46] ? Vital’s innovation in using full-spectrum light in art to promote health and well-being.
[41:46] ❤️ Emphasis on courage as the essential quality for artists, leaders, and individuals.
Key Insights
[14:39] ? Creation of Gemstone-like Colors: Vital’s technique involves layering pigments to mimic the depth and light interaction of gemstones.
This approach reflects a sophisticated understanding of color theory and material science, where beauty is not only visual but experiential, requiring light to reveal the full spectrum. The metaphor of gemstones also symbolizes timelessness and enduring beauty, contrasting with the ephemeral nature of natural phenomena like sunsets or flowers.
[24:31] ? Meta-Realism as a Philosophical Framework: Vital’s art transcends mere representation, aiming to reveal the underlying essence or “verb form” of objects.
This concept aligns with metaphysics and invites viewers to engage with art beyond the surface, encouraging deeper contemplation about reality and existence. His comparison to scientific perspectives—such as DNA or geological formations—illustrates how art and science converge in revealing hidden layers of meaning.
[12:09] ?ﾸﾏ Studio Environment Tailored to Creative Needs: The design of Vital’s studio prioritizes natural light and ventilation, crucial for handling large quantities of paint and achieving desired visual effects.
This highlights the importance of the physical workspace in facilitating artistic innovation. The translucent roof and open air allow for an interaction with natural elements that both inspire and technically support his complex layering techniques.
[37:46] ? Integration of Full-Spectrum Light in Art for Health Benefits: Vital’s use of light-transmitting materials to create art that emits full-spectrum light serves both aesthetic and therapeutic functions.
This innovation demonstrates a holistic approach to art-making, where the artwork contributes to environmental and human health, reflecting an ecological and wellness-conscious mindset. It also aligns with research showing the benefits of natural light on mood and cognitive function, especially in regions with less sunlight.
[41:46] ❤️ Courage as the Core Attribute for Artistic and Personal Success: Vital stresses that courage is necessary not only for creating art but also for leadership and living authentically.
This insight frames artistry as an act of bravery—pursuing one’s vision against uncertainty and societal pressures. It also connects art to broader human endeavors, such as politics and personal decision-making, emphasizing integrity and heart-led action.
[07:12] ? Artistic Evolution and Personal Growth: The transcript traces Vital’s journey through diverse styles and media, reflecting life experiences and maturation as an artist.
This underlines the dynamic nature of creativity as a lifelong process influenced by both external environments and internal development. His early sculptures of man and woman and the whale installation show his commitment to ecological themes and community engagement.
[32:18] ? Art as a Form of Self-Governance and Political Expression: Vital distinguishes leadership from politics and sees art as a form of personal and social governance.
This perspective elevates art beyond aesthetics into a mode of influencing consciousness and societal values without direct political control, advocating for self-awareness and responsibility as foundational to collective well-being.
Conclusion
The video transcript offers a profound meditation on art, nature, and humanity through the lens of Elan Vital’s work and philosophy. It highlights how his innovative techniques, conceptual depth, and commitment to ecological and social themes position him as a seminal figure in Maui’s cultural landscape. The blend of artistic mastery and thoughtful commentary invites viewers to reconsider beauty, creativity, and courage in their own lives, making the content both inspiring and intellectually enriching.
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morning six o’clock morning we’re about to start a beautiful day will we go west side kind of a long drive think we’re gonna stay right here in kieh in here [Music] with some of our friends at the oasis the fun never ends it’s the island rhythm this side of ma we look at the moonlight shining so bright in here islands on the ocean and we will spend our sunny days beaches in reach we’re sailing the south shore down at the coal park watching the whales blue skies blue skies today
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blue skies blue skies in kiev here comes the trade winds blowing away on love that troubles your feeling today [Music] watching the whales look at the people having a good time they get the rhythm when they hear marty dread it’s the sensation sweeping the nation yes it began right here in kiev [Music] watching the whales blue skies blue skies today blue skies blue skies in kiev here comes the trade winds blowing away all of the troubles you’re feeling today [Music] [Music] do [Music] the beach isn’t reached we’re sailing
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the south shore down at the gold park watching the whales the islands of the ocean then we will spend our sunny days the beach is in reach we’re sailing the south shore down at the goat park watching the whales blue skies blue skies today blue skies here comes the trade winds blowing away we the troubles are feeling today [Music] uh [Music] is position thank you and look what just walked in the door [Music] and our most beautiful infamous tara are we i hope and we’re turning not green we’re
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turning pink that’s right black and blue welcome to another mama presents mama we have a great pleasure to be here yes yes we came down to see tara and elon here at addie galleries in lahaina on a friday night we’ll be right there we have a lot of people here who want to see you on elan is a i want to say a master artist but he’s just a master and a wonderful person he’s more than that he sure is he’s a masterpiece and the master being that he is forced forth through the arms that he creates
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it’s true and yeah we see it in multi-dimension yeah well done we’re gonna have a chance to talk a little bit later in fact we’re gonna take you guys to the studio so we see where this is all created and uh have a little time to sit down and talk to the guy up close sounds wonderful man i’ll see you there we’re not letting him go so fast [Music] say hello to maui maui hello you are so fantastic [Music] you are fantastic fantastic fantastic fantastic fantastic fantastic you are fantastic
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he is fantastic now i know he’s a fantastic dancer not only is he a great artist look over here see this one i know he’s not here yet look at this one this one that’s over here to me has always looked oriental early on like he’s gone through some series and stages of changes with his work this is one of the early ones it’s so beautiful notice how different it was a different kind of style but his sculpture looks like his painting does it yes in what way it’s all rounded lines
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and lines and angles and i see really beautiful and look this way i’m going to go around this way and i’m going around here’s another roll on boy they’re beautiful here aren’t they aren’t they beautiful he’s got a great place here outside huh you’ll show me which one you mean you mean the one on the that has the painting out there boy he has great pieces here they bring back so much memories the sculptures especially is what really that i remember most it’s man and woman together
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and when you look around it you see different feelings different whole parts of the subject that’s really beautiful i love how he uses even in here there’s all the different feeling of different elements yeah you look beautiful with those flowers on thank you we got this leg from some beautiful hawaiian people were they hawaiian they weren’t where they go towards yeah yeah yeah oh i think also samoan they look similar to me but the hawaiian now they’re here with us i added a few fresh flowers though
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that’s understandable you know that’s correct it’s so different huh isn’t this beautiful a color this is so incredible i wonder what will come out here in the house we’ll put on lights a little later but we got some nice ones in the gallery how nice shots good walk with me outside do me a favor i’ll open that door and go out there would you oh there’s a lawn now let’s go visit him see this piece is an old sculpture way long ago that he put in our maui when you look at
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it you say oh it’s made of tubes and it’s actually an amazing piece i could have lots of air and i could have natural surroundings around me and so when i took this place i said what type of studio would i like i need a translucent roof let the light come in natural and i need lots of air because i work with lots of paint i work with gallons and gallons of paint at a time painting like this which is going to um uh client in uh palm desert this one and this these are 60 by 90s these are ariel jump in please these are the last
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of the la of the um last of the series of this series yeah so this will finish up the nine paintings i’ve done for them these are beautiful you did nine for the same people yeah well they started off with one and they took it home and fell in love with it now she’s third generation artist but she doesn’t need the money she’s got inheritance so she you know can can afford to buy things and she has three beautiful homes and this one is a fantastic home and so but they took one home they fell
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in love with it more and they came back and took three more wow and then and then after they took three more they came back and said let’s do my entire home in the paintings so anyhow uh this place allows me to open up the uh the uh shades and let the air through now these which you know i always joked with you about an artist’s palette being so powerful this like whole place is your palette isn’t it all these colors and all the streamers of of paint that are hanging down from here huh
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oh yeah well basically uh i create my own colors my uh in a sense i don’t create it but i compile them what it is is that i start off with a crystal clear medium and then what i do is i put ground pigments in my medium and i mix it up and then i layer it and layer it layer it until i get colors that look like gemstones the concept of my work was that i was exploring what beauty was and uh because i figured that was what i wanted to do do something beautiful and which in my mind beauty has meaning
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so what i was after was to create um something that was generally considered beautiful and that i found existed in lots of different forms if you look at a sunset people say gee that’s beautiful one out of 100 would if that much would say no if you look at gemstones the same thing occurs if you look at flowers the same thing occurs so in other words beauty isn’t necessarily subjective beauty is something that there’s a consensus of opinion as to what it really is and so when i when i understood that
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what i did was um i went out to create colors like gemstones yeah and they really are like ginseng ah thank you yeah you really do well you know here you can’t see it because it’s really lying flat but gemstones require light for them to have their beauty and what i mean by that is there’s no gemstone that exists the beauty exists on the surface every gemstone requires the light to pass in through it and by accepting the light and then passing it back out what we get is the colors of gemstones
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you don’t get emerald color on the surface you get emerald color throughout the stone right you don’t get opal or pearl or anything on the surface it’s always looking into the stone i’m glad we were there with you last night because the light in the gallery really dramatizes and shows off what you’re doing i remember you’re going to see in fact i’m going to show right now the pieces when you look closely you can see that light quality coming through i guess that’s what you mean while you
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put all these different layers in is that what’s happening yeah well the layers are like necker on the pearl or the betrayal inclusions on the uh on an opal see see i couldn’t capture the sunset because that’s a light and that’s light cast upon the sky and i couldn’t hold the beauty of a flower because it’s so you know it it it comes and goes so rapidly but a gemstone lasts forever so i look for at least to have be able to create colors like that now i had my nectar of gems
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i call it and what i’m able to do with that is then learn how to use it i’ve got a material that’s by inherent nature has you know a transparency will last forever and then what i’m trying to do is have have that become uh like say a gemstone for the wall imagine that people buy rings you know diamonds or pearls or you know gemstones they put them around the neck and they’re that small and they spend thousands hundreds of thousands of dollars so i said if i and why because they’re looking at
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the beauty and i said if i can do that with my colors i’ve got something you know absolutely your stuff is really you’ve done it you’ve done it they are gemstones it’s been a pleasure when you walk down front street your stuff stands out so dramatically you know we’re in a land of fish and whales and take nothing away from the art that’s you know marine art and things but your stuff really stands very tall years ago i used to work with the circle art gallery and i used to appreciate being on maui
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and seeing a diversity of art that could be quote world-class and it’s its ideas stepped out of a single element and that’s what your art does and that’s always been my greatest appreciation of what you do because a conceptual artist that reaches boundaries and things that um i really respect i remember when you first started that art force gallery down there in in wailuku those were wonderful times you know when i look at all your stuff i get such warm feelings you’ve gone through stages though with
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this haven’t you oh yeah well it’s always a learning experience when i came here i wasn’t doing my sculpture which is where i first started and then i did the whale down in the kalama park as a way uh to show my appreciation for all i have and for the beauty of this island also it was my way of adding to the ecological uh movement that was just a foot at that time was still embryonic now we have uh you know a lot of good watch dogs including of course uh with the green party which you’re part
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of oh yeah and we also have you know the mechanic group and quite a lot of other people that that are watching over us but at that time it was still undeveloped so individuals were at that time putting things together to you know say let’s save the beauty of this island i mean i grew up in new york city you know and then i uh and then i i lived out in california for quite a while and i loved that too but when i came here i realized this is very fragile and very lit left you know you know little places like this
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left so i gave it away and uh you know magic has occurred ever since then uh for me uh and i guess it really has to do with uh the idea of courage well i have courage i’m going to break into a conversation and say let’s go inside yeah and pick it up and wait a minute before we do that i want to say that this is like oh yeah my very favorite oh i like this just love it looks like angelic beans yeah and it feels like angelic beans unfolding yeah like in the form of like flowers i’ll show you if i put it up here and
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put a little light on it you’ll see a landscape i just love this let me show you this one actually my work it’s unimportant what i think what i think is not important it’s what you think that’s important in the way you feel more about what happens when you look at a word ariel go up get in touch with it i know these are meant to be close to you see i see in here i see a wonderful landscape and there’s almost fire and water mixing with it looks like fire and water mixing yeah
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yeah right where they normally wouldn’t combine they do in this painting it’s almost like actually it looks all it looks like rally in the fact uh here’s the mountains in the background and here’s the fire and the yeah well if you turn it another way then it looks like angels you know oh let’s see that let’s see that okay i’ll show you wow see now it looks almost like angelic bean coming up oh yeah i think i like it that way best good well that’s why that’s one of the things
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again it’s not important for me to dictate which way you enjoy it it’s only important to me that you do enjoy it i love it i love it is this part of that series for palm desert or no no this is not uh but i did it in the same time period so there’s some similarities oh it’s beautiful you know each one of these is so special and naming them must be a lot of fun because they are there’s so much when you look into them yeah uh oh i think you lost that one hour [Laughter] good let’s go inside okay good
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thank you for joining us in here in this creative masters environment i’ll put this back aloha welcome to another mama presents the maui arts and music association is proud i don’t know proud this is my friend alon elon vitale wonderful artist i know him so long i tell you he’s as close to being a brother as anyone that i know on this island in this world except my brother who’ll be a good third party here good thank you for coming and being here with us thank you for having me you know we are doing this in a little
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disjointed fashion today we’re here in alan’s house what you’re looking behind us is actually i guess a number of different stages and times in your development as an artist when i look around here i always am so thrilled when i see your work because i remember as you’ve gone through sculpture stages and different pieces of art in different ways that you’ve grown and your success has just blossomed so much and here on maui where when i first knew elan i met him when he was oh you remember he
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was constructing the whale that we all see in kihei as uh kihei’s whale which uh that was a gift wasn’t it from you to the to the county or the people of maui yes it was and we’ve come so far now i haven’t seen a whale in your work except maybe as i envision it you’ve really come into a whole different style of work now how do you describe what you do now i mean well i guess the best way for me to describe it is simply with the words it’s meta realistic and what what my work about is about on the
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underlying things not what you see but the underlying aspects is simply that it’s the verb form of the noun that causes things to be meta-realism is in a sense an ability to see beyond the surface don’t mind me where’s your microphone oh it’s right here it’s there it’s still there good is it say beyond the surface beyond the surface so i’m sorry go ahead so what it really is is about uh if it i’ll give an example a scientist looking at a dna would be able to then
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see what you look like if you were fully formed that seed that smallest particle has all of you in it and that’s sort of like a meta-realistic vision or you take a look at a geologist the geologist tells a stone in his hand and you look at it looks like a stone to him it looks like the world unfolding he can see you know volcanic rifts he can see you know times of drought and you know all in this piece of stone so it’s a perspective beyond what most people see and that’s why it’s meta
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just like metaphysics is beyond what most people can see you know and yet it’s still real yeah and you’re now dealing mediums that um i mean i remember used to deal in metal and used to do work in plaster you can help me here because i remember in fact i remember you even created we don’t we’ll have to take a picture of it later you created your own material like this piece over here yes what do we remember that you’ve gone through stages this is also the same it’s i call that material petrified
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petrified yeah to be petrified is to be turned into stone right and most uh things start out you know like a sand and then they become aggregate and then they start to form under pressure or whatever and that’s the earl actually in a sense stone is an earlier version of a gemstone yeah and actually strangely in my work that’s the way it did evolve here i was looking to see how i mean if you look at the earliest the earliest work that man has shown in terms of the art what we see is prehistoric cave drawings
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and they’re petroglyphs petra rock glyphs rock riding rock pictures and in fact humankind was first recognized in this form as the modern man at the same time that art bloomed never were human beings fully formed without art art is really the hallmark of what makes us civilized and art really is a state of being you know like actually you know the old english thou art well that means you are right so we’re talking about thou art thou art art means you are art art is a state of being and so i started to explore
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art from the first time from the period of you know of rock formation and drawing on that rock formation uh something’s burning yeah i hear you it’s those lights yeah is that what it is it’s all right okay good as long as nothing smells like good home cooking okay okay good okay so anyhow um just wanted to make sure that [Music] i understood the advent of man the continuation of it through the art phases so i started going through it and development concocted my own kind of material that could say
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you know that this was like a rock and be formed and create visages which are akin to the coloration like this particular piece is called genesis right and it’s the cosmic egg cracking open and you see like an eggshell kind of formation on the outsides man woman and female man woman and baby rather and one if i turned it around you’d be able to see it i’m sure so but i will have more time in another show you know what i’m looking at you really your art you know maybe every artist has
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some concept that starts from science but somehow you’ve as i really have seen maybe i’m wrong but you started with an appreciation for things in a very physical way in a you know for materials and for a piece that was an old radiator and you said right what can i do with this to do something to to bring something to it and you bring color and like in like now this work that you’re doing you call it the beauty series right to really explore beauty and you were exploring kinds of material and stuff
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um i haven’t seen that really with other artists much here on a lot of artists uh go with what they’ve learned in school uh which is good to hone certain craft but it doesn’t i think that art really has to do with the person’s entire life they can’t do any more art than they’ve lived whatever they’ve lived if they’ve had i mean this is a reason why the experience that an artist undergoes is what very often if that artist is giving what they can they’re basically
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processing the their visions and their knowledges and their understandings and saying it through their art no more so than let’s say a journalist with through their writings or a novelist or any or or any other artist and through through the way that they express themselves whether it’s a violin or dance the culmination of an individual work on themselves and in the world really in my opinion jason has a lot to do with you know what they’re putting out if they’re putting it out right
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you’re putting out the culmination of what what they’ve seen learned and wish to purport that kind of thing yeah a gift to this island now the is a gift to me maybe you should run for mayor this year no i am not i’m full i have no political aspirations actually my political bent ends with the idea of influencing people through my art you could say that’s political in a sense but it has nothing to do with control of government it really except for self-government you know self-government is really what
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the uh finest form of government would be if each person has their own consciousness you know of how to run their lives you know we don’t get any better people in bit in uh in our offices than we are as a whole you know the smarter they are the larger the crimes they could commit or the larger larger uh wonderful things they can do but basically the people in power are no more a reflection than our lowest common denominator as individuals the simple man may not be able to commit as large a crime
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but you know because he doesn’t know how nor can he also commit let’s say the world of wonder in terms of helping and saving and doing what everyone can do as well you know so it’s it’s actually just a reflection magnified by the amount of uh one power that the person has or and control and also intelligence um how did you come upon the art world like i i know that uh years ago were you always an artist or you’re doing science and all kinds of different things well to me you know again art is
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actually anything beyond ordinary significance done by man anything above ordinary significance is art fine art has a certain appellation and that means usually architecture or painting or drawing and all that but we all live a world of art again not to beat this subject that’s right but the man that most influenced me or rather the idea of the man that influenced me most would be leonardo da vinci i saw a guy that i call him a guy but i saw this you know quote genius that was able to be in
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every field of endeavor you know and excel he was in engineering he built wonderful machines and flying machines and also machines of war he also built uh fantastic and schematics and designs and you know of course we all know him for uh you know his paintings and sculpture but here was a guy that believed art was in every area and um when i discovered him at the age of seven i said i wanted to be like that person because he was just so i mean it was so interesting and so i but when i was growing up
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engineering was the thing to do my dad told me that you know everybody said be an engineer that’s the thing you know so i got into engineering at an early age and i found out that i couldn’t be creative as much as i could would have liked to it wasn’t the age of da vinci anymore and you tend to be boxed so i started working my way into the idea of moving further further into areas that were more creative and areas also where my unusual qualities would be appreciated you don’t have any unusual quality
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yeah actually yeah where my eccentricities would would come to help rather than be a hindrance you know i mean after all i worked for ibm at the age of 18 years old and i was you know a little strange for that organization and i worked at itt and borgwarner and designed uh towers for them and in mongol dam and pakistan and you know uh so i did all these these really odd things and and uh i didn’t really quite fit i hadn’t found my place you know i was still looking for it i’m working my way toward it
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that’s wonderful you know i know you have another companion who we’re not going to let into our studio here and but you have a constant companion with four legs one of these days we’re gonna have an interview can we interview laina i think we got a little of her outside out there in there she’s been around has she told you about your artist she’s been a big influence in your honor oh she’s been constantly supportive there’s no i mean she i usually ask her questions and one thing i really like
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about her is that she usually agrees with me you know i find that very very nice i have i have always found being around you to be stimulating in all kinds of ways but you probably have seen i get thrilled every time i see a new piece a new idea that you’re taking into formation from a piece of the sculpture the different generations to the art that you have now now you have art now this is new to me and probably you can tell me will you put light into or behind your piece now yeah i also did some experimentation and
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some um research on on the effect of different light on people and full spectrum light is now well accepted in lots of areas for instance in germany all public all public uh housing or not public housing but schools and hospitals are required to have full spectrum light because of the health giving qualities they found that children learn better under it people heal better under it basically the full spectrum light is the light that the sun puts out you know and we found that also areas where that
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isn’t as prevalent in darker areas perhaps like in seattle areas or north what happens is people get depressed and give them the full spectrum like they feel better in the housing that we have today a lot of people live in apartments and uh what happens is that they get deprived light deprived um and color deprived because basically light is color you know the waves that that this the spectrum of wavelengths create color so what i did was i said okay how can i light someone’s home with a beautiful object
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that doesn’t look like it’s a sterile room because if you took a regular white light and built and put a wall it looks like it’s very sterile so i now i have a transparent painting so to speak but it’s not a painting it’s actually a film that’s like a transparency you put light behind it and it comes out full spectrum light it’s health giving and um also beautiful which is also health giving you know beauty is always health giving so um that’s what i did and it’s called the
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lumilon aluminum lumeland illuminati is right lumens are light a degree of light measurable light now i’m sure we’re going to do lots of other times together you know here on screen and in a moment i’m going to give all of us a pleasure we’re going to have arielle come and join us and be part of this interview but well i mean i’m having you on here quote formally what’s important to you you know what do you want to really tell this audience out there it could be art could be anything like
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you said anything that’s different than the ordinary is art yes not different than different ordinary that is in other words um of higher significance it’s not necessarily different than ordinary it could be if it’s different than ordinary it could also be ugly it could also be debasement but if it has a higher significance in other words something to lift you something that has a greater meaning than ordinary existence than the mundane reality of life mundane qualities are great i mean because that’s we live through
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that and i like great regular basic things however what really allows us to grow what really allows us you know the um uh the height like right now there’s the olympics going on well you these people are going for their heights they’re stretching themselves literally and figuratively spiritually they are moving and that’s in the physical realm okay but it doesn’t stop there everything that we do whether whether it’s you know trying to we’re trying to expand ourselves enlarge
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ourselves that’s what r is you know and that’s really what it is the courage to go about going after what you find is your bliss is the number one thing the courage people ask me what does it take to be an artist and the answer is simply courage what does it take to be a champion the answer is courage what does it take to be a good person and to um make sure you make the correct decisions about which way your life should go it takes courage you know and that’s really what it is courage of the heart courage
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with the heart how about a politician politician i mean you see i’m wondering you know i’m doing it but i do it with my heart also yeah so in some ways i look at politics as art yes well see there’s politicians and there are leaders politicians and leaders aren’t necessarily the same thing okay politicians the way we think or at least i do think of politicians as people who are always looking for a way to say two different things at the same time this is the way that most of the public looks at that they’re
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always looking a way to get around it or be popular popular is good as long as because that means that they’re following the public sentiment but to be truthful and honest and frank also requires courage the the politician that is honest knowing that perhaps the people don’t necessarily understand you know takes courage or disagrees with him but he knows alita doesn’t always agree with all of his constituency he has to lead them into understanding that this might be the right way to go
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you know i mean leadership is different than politician politician follows i think in order to get elected a leader is there to help the general public and that’s what i think maybe my words are wrong but um i know i’m having a great time out there in politics but i’m hope i guess i’m hoping to lead you’re helping to lead people in down the path of um helpful living and maintaining this island you know maintaining not only this island but you know any other place so that we could have beauty i remember
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when i first started mama mama’s birthplace was uh at the art force that’s right i do a gallery so um i’ve come a long way and i’ve like i say you’ve always been really a warm spot in my heart and me with you thank you a lot yeah thank you i um i would love to have ariel in here sure what do you think good what do you think come on in ariel come on come on we’re gonna go i’ll tell you what he’s stealing my heart oh wait wait wait no i’ll just talk here i just want to
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thank you so much for being here with us and tell you how very much i love you and i love your work and what a blessing you are to all of us and thank you so much for blessing us with your jewels and your color and your light and the light that shines from your heart because that’s most important and it shines through your work so thank you very much thank you and i love all the curves jason and i were here before i said you just looks like so feminine this is like the great mother it encompasses
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everything so when you were saying male female and child it does encompass everything yeah that’s it that’s that’s that’s the whole nut right there thank you very much for coming oh thank you for allowing us to be in your beautiful space and sharing your studios and thank you for letting us into your homes and into your space we have different shows each time and this is one i’m real happy to be here because my friend alon is really special to me and my lady arielle too and i’m really glad that we could bring this
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to you and we’re looking forward to bringing you more art and music and environment you know it’s really interesting you truly exemplify doesn’t he to me mama’s principles are to take an artist who’s conscious out of the realm of just a visual statement but actually feels from the heart and integrates everything together that’s what you are and it’s terrific and you are an artist too oh yeah yeah you do ariel yeah absolutely we all are if we just take ourselves beyond ordinary
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significance thank you everybody aloha [ __ ] you get up here right there comes fire department [Music] [Music] oh oh [Music] [Music] oh yeah and together we can get through this this is just unbelievable i’m focusing up above because i am just in shock at what i’m seeing as far as structure here oh this place is mickey mouse i mean there’s lily’s closet hanging over an area where the post that held up the house looks like it’s sheered right off yeah yeah and all this burnt structure
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is just structure yeah there’s no there’s no foundation well it’s just wood that’s a horror there’s a real horror i mean this place you know we were just talking i was talking to a fireman from new jersey just a little while ago and he said that by the nature of this construction the firemen really couldn’t come in and stop this fire they couldn’t stop it in the middle because it was just burning based on its construction and there was no way to get in he can see it when he
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looks at it and he didn’t even look at it from down here oh i know i understand well by the time this show is on we don’t know what’s happening we hope that a lot of the producers are tagging this on to their television shows so we can get the message out this fire in maui meadows really has hurt a lot of people so thank you for your aloha yeah a lot of the neighbors houses too were uh on fire and fires on the roof concluding hours oh yeah yeah so a lot of people have been touched by this fire
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and we thank you for your heart being touched thank you aloha
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