GUTSY WOMEN – Amorah St. John

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Jason Schwartz spends an hour with AMORAH ST. JOHN, hostess of KAKU Radio Show “GUTSY WOMEN” Amorah interviews women two at a time on her weekly show that shares dynamic and interesting women from Maui, Hawaii. 3-16-2020

Summary & transcript

1. 1. 1. Introduction and Overview of Guest and Show

• Host Jason Schwartz welcomes Amorah St. John, the hostess of Gutsy Women, a radio show airing Fridays at 11:00 a.m. on KAKU 88.5 FM, Maui’s community radio station. The show is also available via Facebook Live, YouTube, and MauiNeutralZone.com.
• Gutsy Women celebrates determined, courageous, and spirited women by interviewing local Maui women and showcasing their talents, creativity, and stories.
• Amorah recently produced a live stage showcase at the Maui Arts & Cultural Center’s Pro Arts Playhouse featuring women performers, including a memorable pantomime performance by Stephanie and Julia that conveyed a full relationship story without words, highlighting the power of nonverbal communication.
• The conversation touches on how much communication is nonverbal—only about 7% is verbal—with body language, energy, and expression playing dominant roles.
• [07:30 → 17:00]
  • • Amorah St. John’s Media Background and Philosophy
• Amorah has over 30 years in media, holding a degree in Radio, TV, and Film from Northwestern University. Initially aiming for a career in New York TV, she found corporate media restrictive and lacking local creativity, which led her to radio.
• She’s been with KAKU for nearly 28 years since its inception, emphasizing storytelling and personal connection as central to her work.
• Amorah’s mission includes broadcasting positive stories to balance the often negative, sensationalistic mainstream media coverage, especially relevant during crises like the coronavirus pandemic.
• She stresses the importance of media as the “nervous system of the planet,” influencing societal health and collective consciousness.
• Amorah encourages careful but fear-free media consumption and promotes love over fear as the core emotional driver in life.
• [17:00 → 26:00]
  • • The Impact of Media and Community Engagement
• Discussion about the challenges and opportunities of community media compared to corporate media.
• Amorah highlights the unique platform KAKU offers for grassroots storytelling and community voices.
• She shares insights on the importance of mentoring young media talents on Maui and bridging the gap between academic media training and local employment opportunities.
• The difficulty of retaining young media and artistic talent on Maui due to limited professional opportunities is discussed, with many graduates leaving for the mainland.
• Amorah advocates for collaborative creative projects to nurture and sustain local talent, indicating her involvement with the Maui Arts & Music Association and ongoing efforts to connect local and mainland resources.
• [26:00 → 45:00]
  • • Technical Aspects and Media Production Insights
• Amorah describes evolving media technologies, including editing software (Final Cut Pro, iMovie, Adobe Premiere) and the challenges posed by switching platforms.
• She praises local training opportunities such as those at the University of Hawaii Maui College and IKKAKU Plaza, which offer classes in mobile filmmaking and media production accessible to the public.
• The conversation touches on the practical use of smartphones as powerful media tools, enabling accessibility and spontaneity in capturing important moments.
• Amorah emphasizes the value of mentorship and hands-on experience for young media practitioners and the need to simplify technical workflows to accommodate aging eyes and other challenges.
• She mentions the app Filmic Pro as a high-quality mobile filming tool.
• The growing importance of remote auditions, online collaboration, and virtual communication tools like Zoom and Skype is noted, especially in the context of isolation and the evolving media landscape.
• [45:00 → 01:00:00]
  • • Societal and Political Commentary
• Amorah reflects on political events, including the presidential debates, expressing disillusionment with the divisiveness and harshness among candidates.
• She discusses gender representation in politics and society, highlighting the disproportionate violence committed by men and advocating for more female leadership, citing Barack Obama’s view that women could bring compassionate and heart-centered governance.
• The conversation emphasizes the importance of youth engagement in politics, particularly Millennials, as pivotal in shaping the future and handling current crises like COVID-19 responsibly.
• Amorah stresses responsibility without fear in managing public health and social challenges, encouraging empathy and collective care for vulnerable populations.
• She shares personal stories of women in her life who have faced cancer and terminal illness with courage and grace, highlighting the spiritual journey and positive outlook even in adversity.
• [01:00:00 → 01:20:00]
  • • Positive Media and Community Building
• Amorah advocates for a “positive spin” in media coverage, especially during crises, to foster community resilience and collective healing instead of fear and despair.
• She proposes media projects that focus on solutions, breakthroughs, and opportunities arising from difficult situations, inspired by the Chinese concept that every crisis holds opportunity.
• Amorah cites examples of her community involvement, including co-creating events and shows that combine entertainment with calls to action, such as encouraging voter registration and participation.
• She discusses the importance of co-creation and teamwork in successfully producing community events and media content.
• Amorah underscores the value of preserving and sharing local stories through accessible platforms to build a legacy and inspire others.
• [01:20:00 → 01:30:00]
  • • Personal Lifestyle and Closing Thoughts
• Amorah shares that besides hosting her show, she works part-time as a nanny, which she credits with keeping her youthful and connected.
• She discusses her love for Maui’s climate, community spirit, and unique energy, contrasting it with her Chicago roots and her time in California.
• The conversation touches on the importance of gratitude and focusing on the positive aspects of life as a daily practice to improve physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being.
• Amorah closes with a heartfelt message encouraging listeners to appreciate their surroundings, their loved ones, and the beauty of life rather than dwelling on negative news.
• Jason Schwartz thanks Amorah for her time and reminds listeners to tune in to Gutsy Women Fridays on KAKU 88.5 FM.

1. 1. 1. Key Highlights and Insights

Theme	Details
Gutsy Women Show	Focuses on courageous, spirited women; local Maui talent; storytelling as empowerment.
Media Philosophy	Media as planetary nervous system; need for positive, solution-focused stories.
Communication Insight	Nonverbal cues dominate communication; pantomime as powerful storytelling tool.
Community Media Platform	KAKU 88.5 FM offers grassroots voices, local content, and community engagement.
Talent Development	Mentoring youth in media; bridging academic training and local media jobs; retaining talent.
Technical Tools	Use of smartphones, editing software challenges; importance of accessible media production.
Political and Social Views	Advocacy for female leadership; youth political engagement; managing fear vs. responsibility.
Health and Spirituality	Stories of cancer journeys; promoting love over fear; holistic approach to crises.
Positive Media Spin	Encourages solution-oriented coverage; media as a tool for community healing and action.
Personal Connection	Gratitude, aloha spirit, and positive outlook as keys to wellness and resilience.

Summary Table: Quantitative/Timeline Data

Date/Period	Event/Detail	Notes
Nearly 30 years	Amorah’s media career	Began after graduating from Northwestern
Nearly 28 years	Amorah’s tenure at KAKU 88.5 FM	Since station’s inception
Fridays 11:00 a.m.	Air time for Gutsy Women show	Repeat Saturdays 2:00 p.m.
1988	Amorah moved to Maui	After 25 years in California
March (Women’s History Month)	Discussion on women’s contributions and leadership	Timely political commentary

Keywords and Core Concepts

• Gutsy Women
• Community radio and TV
• Positive media
• Nonverbal communication
• Mentorship and talent retention
• Media technology: Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, iMovie, Filmic Pro
• Aloha spirit
• Fear vs. love
• Female leadership
• Youth political engagement
• Cancer journey and spiritual growth
• Co-creation and teamwork

1. 1. 1. Closing Recommendations from Amorah St. John

• Start each day with gratitude for life’s simple blessings—breath, nature, loved ones.
• Focus on positive news and stories that uplift rather than sensationalize or induce fear.
• Engage actively in community media or local storytelling platforms to empower yourself and others.
• Support and mentor young talent to sustain local culture and creative industries.
• Approach crises with caution but without fear, embracing opportunities for growth and connection.

This summary provides a detailed, structured, and professional overview of Amorah St. John’s interview on The Neutral Zone with Jason Schwartz, strictly adhering to the source transcript without extrapolation or unsupported assumptions.

Transcript

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Aloha welcome to the neutral zone it’s Monday at 11:00 I’m your host Jason Schwartz I have a terrific guest today I have a more alight with us hang on [Music] I’m a man [Music] sold [Music] hand please meet you hope you but what nature good morning everyone how are you Amorah st. John is here with us amaura is the hostess of gutsy women which is on here Fridays at 11:00 a.m. here at Kak you 88.5 FM the voice of Maui you can also find us on Facebook live you can also see all of our shows at

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Maui neutral zone calm the day after and forever we like to keep the library up there and everything’s found of course on YouTube where it lives a more welcome to the show nice to be here on the other side of the table I was gonna say you’re on the other side of the table you know I we were two weeks ago I guess I was or last weekend on – I was at a new warrior training with mankind project down in K and I and couldn’t get to your gutsy woman to show at the pro art Playhouse there you have had two at

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a time and pretty much right two at a time on your show and gutsy women yeah right here on kak you what makes someone gutsy well yes let’s see that’s a great question I am the dictionary definition for gutsy is determined courageous and filled with spirit so after almost two years of interviewing those kinds of women on Maui I thought we did a showcase I want more people to see to see these women and see their talent see their creativity and bring them together on a stage which we got to do last Saturday

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at the beaux-arts well you know I happen to listen to the repeat on Friday when you were talking to Stephanie Stephanie and Julia yeah yeah their performance was off the charts they created something brand new for the program the show I am right they didn’t speak at all they they were my mean an entire relationship that meets in a restaurant they fall in love they get married they have children and then one of them dies at the end all in eight minutes pantomime to music with sound effects it

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was it was amazing I think they’ve got they’re onto something that’s a very funny thing I’m I remember when I was growing up Marcel Marceau always really intriguing he and his ability to communicate without speaking yeah well you know Jason’s words are only seven percent of the communication everything else is you know where you’re coming from your energy body your movement your eye movement seven percent his words I mean sometimes you look at you could look at Donald Trump and just

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think you know he’s communicating just with his sneer no way and beyond the words he uses before you speak yeah or anything yeah yeah yeah I look at a little baby how they communicate there’s no words well has anyone done it in depth look at Amorah I mean I know that you’ve been part of the media world for a good one time yeah give us a little bit of history because of everyone here that you haven’t seen it or listened to a more show amaura is a very skilled and talented Andry I want to say practiced

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hostess so you’ve been doing this a long time about 30 years yeah 30 years yeah you can’t tell you’re only 30 it’s right I was a mere babe when I began but I got turned on to I have a degree and actually from Northwestern and a radio TV and film and I thought oh I’m gonna make it big in New York I’m gonna get on The Tonight Show and be the producer and make a splash and then I realized that they were all owned by corporations and that you were all being talked I pretty much

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told what to do and it there was no creativity that I could see that was particularly local locally in Chicago in the local markets there was mostly news and weather and a few little live shows and TV was so complicated so I thought wow let me take a look at radio listen because it’s so much easier then you walk like we do walk in you turn on a switch and you know you we got Tony out there we’ve got Renee of managing the station but it’s a much easier walk than the TV side as much as as much as I

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think we learned visually right well that’s interesting I think of myself as a TV show but I have to be doing it on radio because I take the Facebook live feed uh-huh and then I put credits on it and get rid of the beginning that sometimes we get sort of a funny start yeah we’re and then I get rid of the end and turning it to TV shows so I’ve been doing TV now I can’t even believe it almost 28 years here since they opened up I was in the first class Don couch was my cool trainer well

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see you have a proclivity for to I mean we all know that when you have a microphone you’re talking to more than just one person which is for me exciting because my mission in life is to spread it around when you hear something good when people learn through their stories that’s why we just talk story on my show net facts and figures and ideas and thesis is it’s it’s really people stories where we learn and the media can can can broadcast those stories like this very same station where you’re at

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okay you 88.5 FM and i think of my show as stories but i originally was going to do this thinking of that i would interview candidates and then found out the FCC equals I might and they give equal time amendment for all candidates so then it was okay if I have nine people running for mayor in the primary I can’t deal with that so I switched the values and I’ve been taking it kind of in in group I’m now in the environmental stuff I’ve had a series of really interest I think interesting shows with

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people that are farmers and new way of creating power and the Ohio char and soil regeneration well let’s tell the truth Jason we do these shows for ourselves we learn and we grow as hosts meeting and knowing so many wonderful people and we get first hand info that way and beyond watching a newscaster reading a book so we’re blessed in that way and I’m always surprised more people don’t do this because it’s a it’s a way to meet and greet the people you’ve always wanted to know and you’ll get to

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know people even deeper are the ones you already know I flipped it a little bit in I’m inviting people on with an agenda and direction of what I want to do on the outside I want people to see how things fit together and if I don’t get to show them up close and personal like this the public is sorry about you guys mostly you were asleep and so I always say those with ears to hear and eyes to see those were the people the people that will be speaking to a 200 that we’re attracting oh yeah it’s been good

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so what have you like best about being a hostess for your show well I kind of just said it it’s it’s doing that deep personal connection with people’s stories and then spreading that message to the world you know I was my mentor was Barbara Hubbard Barbara Marx Hubbard who was no longer with us but she said which is which is what galvanized me when I was in my 30s to get on this mission that our media that our media is our nervous system of the planet and it literally if it broadcasts bad news and

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gloom and doom and despair then the social body this planetary system becomes sick because we’re getting nothing but the negative and what I heard that I thought kind is so true if you look around most of it is either sensationalistic or negative and let’s do something positive so that’s been my mission is to get an answer dote to the to the to the good news – the bad news is called the good news which we need a whole lot more of these days because I think that’s why we’re in such fear

09:04

we’ve got the media talking all the time about the coronavirus to the point we want to scream and enough is enough in some ways I think Blaine said it yesterday best at Unity Church that if fear is taking hold it’s just um out of proportion because it’s almost more dangerous than the virus because that’s catching you can catch fear I see ok well that’s interesting I look at this media thing now it’s a tough balance because they think it’s often said that what we know about

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what’s going on is shy of really where we are after testing it so is it makes good sense to be careful how totally but not to be fearful yeah Michael Beck was said to adapt by church yesterday which we listen to every Sunday is that the the universe has just taken a nightmare nightmare peel a nightmare pill because it’s thrown us into this tizzy which is not surprising given that the nature of the beast but it’s still it’s steer more fear than we need to have we need to manage it in

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a way that is healthy well I yeah and my thing is be careful but not be fearful there you go and then you know I guess it’s a personal journey for all of us yeah of course a miracle says love is letting go of fear that there’s only two emotions in the in the universe one is love and one is fear everything we do comes from either of those places and it makes life really simple like okay what’s your come from are you coming from love where you coming from fear makes easy it does but again but it’s

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coming from love or coming from fear but and you know that joke about the camel but the tether your camel exactly makes sense to do through your tether and I say you’re wearing a glove here well you know this is a little tethering for you and and if I’m gonna be on the board I thought and you know I brought less things in yeah after track yeah and they’re being very careful here at this public access televisions and radios yeah very much appreciate did you hear this morning they were saying nope no

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gather is with more than ten people no yes is that here or is that everywhere or what was that I don’t shop this on the air this morning I just didn’t hear all of it well what I’ve heard is you know where things are much more accelerating or where they’re concentrated like in New York or Seattle then for sure no more than ten people but it’s a recommended guideline and in just a couple of days or weeks if if the numbers were and potentially go up then they’d be implementing that kind

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of thing anywhere nothing as I understand that is nationally decided now it’s all being decided right State and like the news this morning kitv said that we have one person who is tested positive who’s here on Maui and that was a person who was in Canada recently a visitor so it’s not it’s not endemic to the island so I thought that was good news and it’s just one person well it depends on what our you listen to the news because I I heard that also though that was a lady from Canada right I

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remember that but there are a couple of people from Kauai and they found someone on a cruise ship so I’m just saying on Maui where we are I understand so it’s actually up since this morning but you know I think this being careful is I mean God knows God willing it’s nowhere around in our arena and if we keep that going on we won’t have the big problems and we’re potentially very what’s the word susceptible because we’re an island yeah so I definitely so we’re all somewhere out of reach if

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we’re an island – I mean it’s another way you can spin it I wouldn’t spend it that way I see cruise ships coming in I see I see detected and yeah well we’re all protected like they say but by doing those things that we should do to protect ourselves and in Hawaii we have the Aloha spirit that elevates everyone that’s why I think a lot of us are here is it B has a certain energy to light a certain vibration that is a higher than New York City or Chicago where I’m from or even Marin County that there’s

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something in the air here vibrationally that I think is almost helps our immune systems well I hope that everyone out there who in the south of my voice has a lot of Aloha which is helping on your immune system and I’m just glad that I’m just finding the first day the days that was happening it wasn’t really real and then it started to get real and like you say the media does its thing to get us all heightened to the point of could be fearful that’s what we’re doing here but

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stir the pot goodness yeah let’s spread the good news when you’ve had your show I mean I kind of am framing you with the fact that you’ve been really presenting and uplifting the view of women which is really two women has been my focus I had shows called um women like us which I love the play on where it’s women like us like we like each other and it they’re like us so let’s get together and another one that ran for five years back in the Bay Area was women of courage and that was because there was

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such a high incidence of breast cancer and more in fact I was just talking about this last Friday on my show that we decided to do a program and find out why that was so rampant and what I wound up doing is talking to all these women who had cancer thanked thanking their cancer every single one of them because it changed their lives in a new direction that they really must have needed and wanted and that they talked about their spiritual journey through this so here I am you know back with women gets the women talking about their

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journeys through cancer number of my guess of going through that one of them particularly my new friend Sarah is rising above it like nothing I’ve ever seen before because her sister terminal diagnosis and I’m just so inspired by some of these women who are doing it they’re out there on the on the edge yeah terminal diagnosis but keeping a good at it oh my god she’s I get up every morning and I’m just grateful and she’s invited me to chronicle her journey through her her cancer journey

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to her deathbed to so that others will know that death isn’t something you have to be afraid of she said I knew when I was eight I was going to have died young no really I remember when I first got involved with Adriana well yeah she was going through her journey and her good attitude she was another one yeah keeping a smile on your face and being positive and growing through this whole episode I don’t know it was visiting her in the hospital and she’s saying I’m kind of excited about this next

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dimension I’m going into I’m kind of excited I couldn’t believe she said that but now I kind of get it something I kind of wanted to die and go to heaven since I was seven because I was painted so it was such a glorious picture of heaven I just wanted to get there fast well when you say go to heaven whatever comes to my mind is your your play about Trump yes yes yes yes I was a little about well you know after he was elected I was some like everybody else in the country or the liberals it just

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was a rate like this can’t possibly be happening and I needed to do something to get my upset and frustration out and I’m driving down the street and I’m thinking to myself just wait till that guy gets to heaven he is going to be paid back big-time he’s gonna pay for his sins kind of thing and then I thought gosh when Trump gets to heaven hmm it’s a good name for a show and that triggered the whole script which was just basically him writing at the pearly gates and God being a woman and the

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judges who sent him back to earth are as little as as a little Syrian girl born to an unwed mother that was his karmic do in my play and the judges were all a Mexican hombre are you in it Jason you were the Mexican hombre who you played the Mexican hombre that’s right Gary Eric Molina who was the original he was the original that’s true that’s true and Gary Levitt played Trump to a tee he was so good his Trump we got the I got the wig and the red tie on Amazon and we were Hurst and that the other judges

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were a transvestite and a african-american man and a woman and virtue can Torah play to a Muslim woman and they all circled around him and decided on his his punishment which was going back to earth oh boy isn’t it sad it made me feel really good to write that it’s like I got it out of me and then we could laugh about it that’s what I’m saying about keeping your vibration high yeah you know to me the sad part is that we’ve come to a point where we just laugh about it but hopefully this

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election will rearrange the the game of don’t you think yeah thank you – thank you – aren’t we lovely loving being on Maui though aren’t we oh my god it’s the best thing that ever happened to me I like this also being out here in this yeah it’s this place that and that’s why I’m always talking about self sustainability here we are the most remote landmass in the world has its pluses and it’s minuses but all the pluses are we get to be out here and we kind of design on our own place here we

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do and for me it’s just the warm weather all the time I was brought up in Chicago I feel I didn’t leave until it was like 35 and I mean I was freezing to death half my life I didn’t know any different but it helped a bit get back to her frequency it dampens your frequency I remember when I when I met Barbara I was in Chicago and I said I think I may want to move to California and she said well you’d have to shine your light brighter here because it’s darker here it’s literally darker and colder in Chicago

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in New York and some of the eastern states in Midwestern states than it is here in California or certainly Hawaii you have to shine your light brighter it but here you don’t have to you can just be your light you know you have to work at it well like Arielle likes to tell me this is the heart chakra of the universe ah right here’s right and we had you know it seems that everybody that comes here kind of gets that feeling that this is a really special place hmm yeah so it’s a good thing yeah you’re blessed and

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highly favored I like to say so when you made your way from Chicago you didn’t here directly from Chicago no no no let’s go I had a 25 year stopover in California northern Cal a little time in Southern Cal but mostly northern Cal I also spent 15 years in California in Southern Cal ha ha ha I came here yeah 88 and I can’t believe I say 1988 and then I realized my goodness that’s 30 years yeah how about that isn’t that extraordinary time flies by amazing mm-hmm I still feel young yeah I think we all

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like to say that I think one of the reasons Jason you’re staying young and probably for me too is you’re still active you’re out there you’re doing this show you’re you’re you’re always at events recording them and putting creative projects together that really I think help your your spirits and keep you active otherwise people get depressed and bored and they live on their Social Security and then what’s next right what’s next is just the final chapter you know what’s next a lot of

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the senior communities here really a very quiet little very little interaction can you live it don’t you live in one I live in a senior I know what’s that like for you it’s been great yeah I mean I I know some neighbors and but it’s so interesting we all have you become friends with them or yeah but I to be able to keep our own privacy and distance so we find that we don’t often as a group get together but we know each other and helpful for each other as we all can be nice good good thank you

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but um it’s been really very respectful because sometimes and I remember when I was in college and I lived on a hall with others mm-hmm it just the lack of privacy was always in the camp these seniors seem to maintain their own separate space did you get together that was a community inch in a shared space or all getting in theory aha I mean we have I’m in a fortunate place that’s only like 56 units total aha and if we get a gathering if we get ten people we’re lucky really it’s too

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bad because I think when you’re older you need to know that other people are around you need to know their names if you need help right away it seems like the people around you would be the ones you would call on if you lived in one of these places you’d be surprised to see there are no names on the mailbox there is no directory if you don’t know who lives in unit 3 you don’t know who lives in unit company next door why do you think that is because of the privacy and because they don’t want

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everyone to be hit on and found and they don’t want it to be so there’s no soliciting in the building if you say who’s in unit 9 the managers don’t tell you is in unit chambers you’re like a nonentity yeah does that work for you it’s been working really ok but I get to know people because I see them and we all like say we all many of us are friendly and say hi yeah you live yeah are you in this complex I haven’t seen you around are you new here like that yeah good I think it’s good you interact

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with them and some of these people don’t drive and then yeah this Meo system now Economic Opportunity has these buses that run in and out of our place driving all kinds of that’s so great though at least they can get out talk about a funny system and the bus comes and takes them and takes them back what an incredibly it’s a huge service it’s like having your own taxi yeah yeah and you get you get your life back instead of being at home in front of the TV you know which is what happens to

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most older people and I also I exercise a lot sometimes going to the gym but I find myself taking nice walks every day which is a great good thing like you say staying young staying active is exactly good for not staying stimulated motivated exactly you know I want to say something I learned yesterday on a video that my upstairs neighbor whose name is also Jason sent out because his son is a health care practitioner and it was Christene theory around not even a theory a scientific fact that the virus

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begins in the sinus cavities and they did a whole diagram to see where it is eventually originates and if you immediately when you make it a little bit of a symptom heat up your this even suggested using a blow-dryer to warm up the entire sinus cavity area and that kills them upon as soon as the end of the body if you can catch them fast enough it’s a very interesting thing I’ve seen so many different solutions well the one about you know in 40 degrees I think I’ve been thirty hundred

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forty degrees so use a blow dryer and a mitt there by yourself dry right another one I heard is to take a sip of water every 15 minutes because when it goes into the stomach the acids of the stomach would kill it but that it could stays in that nasal cavity there AHA because of the heat but because it’s a not because of the heat because it’s cooler because it’s getting air cooled going in so that whole cavity is cooler than the rest of it that’s the opposite of what they had blow-dryer is about

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well I’m saying the cool the reason that it in the body it hangs in the nose and this haha because the air coming in keeps that area cooler right so the heat from a drug is what breaks it up what breaks it oh yeah yeah and by having it where if you swallow every 15 minutes the thought is that it goes down to an area where your body can destroy it ah yeah well there’s a positive spin I just wish we had more of that going on yeah you know instead of at this these you know oh my god we’re gonna run out

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of hospital beds gonna run out of hair dryer hair dryer you what not to mention toilet paper is already a problem really we’re gonna take a break for our sponsors we are here at the neutral zone I am here with the hostess of gutsy women amaura st. John and we will be back in just a few minutes and we will be continuing our conversation let me go reach over for the button the neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to sincerely thank David Bryan for his support David was founder and head of school at

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as well as our underwriters if you would like to help keep the voice of Maui looking loud and clear go to kak UF m dot org slash donate today and give them and don’t miss the neutral zone Mondays at 11:00 a.m. on 88.5 FM – voice of maui [Music] we are back I’m Jason Schwartz here with the Morris st. John on the neutral zone it’s anything but neutral I’m more is the hostess of gutsy women which is on here kak you Fridays at 11 a.m. and Saturday repeat at 2 at 2 p.m. so that’s

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always a good thing and I understand that they’re now taking our shows from Radio and we’re also putting them on TV so everyone has to television of community television yeah shout out to community radio and television this is our channel this is people’s Channel versus NBC and you know even PBS we are the ones to program it and share our views and our ideas so I just wanted to say anyone out there who has a proclivity for media and they’ve been seeing the power of it to get their own

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show here yeah and I like to put all the shows up so that there’s a permanent easy available library of past show yeah I know they have that available through the website but it’s a little cumbersome so I actually created a website really shows what I do is thanks to Tony our erstwhile engineer he got me onto a Facebook page for a gutsy women so I put most of my shows there so anyone who wants to see a backlog of them I don’t know if they last forever but there they are I think they do last forever the

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only thing I’ve seen is some people don’t have Facebook and people who like pulling away from Facebook well that’s true variety of relapse so anyway I put it on the regular web and sit the stuff on you and you’re a lot more technical than me Jason I have to say just you know just by necessity over the years yeah yeah but you know what’s really been a great thing for me I’ve gone to the University of Hawaii Maui college now for a few years and my thing is I would like to see the young

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people being apprentice to those with more experience to try to find a way to get them more involved like a mentoring program yeah yeah it was really strange in that here at the at ikkaku and kak you they use final cut parole and iMovie at the college they use Adobe Premiere as the editing so so never the twain shall meet well you know it’s like if when I’ve learned iMovie and then we they switched up Final Cut Pro and things in a little different places yeah and now over go be premiere you have to learn again new

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places for everything and with my eyesight getting less and less yeah it’s true I agree you know it would be nice if it would keep it simple I have found that you know when I there at the college there are lots of young people that would like to be doing things with media mm-hmm the biggest question is when you get out of school where are you going to be able to use those skills for work here on-island yeah that bridge has not really it’s an important bridge to otherwise they head out to the mainland and so all the

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talented people we train them and ship them and ship them and that said so my goal is to get them to go from that environment into this environment and also with the Maui Arts and Music Association linked up with the mainland to try to create productions here so I’m in the process and I’ve been talking about it a long time yeah well we’re a magnet for good talent here I mean we have tremendous talent here yeah and the young people coming up this tremendous talent is but then we like your gal that

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was on your show Friday Julia mm-hmm she’s 19 years old and she’s leaving Maui to go kennyart yeah that’s good for her but Maui keeps losing a lot of our people a lot of our young people and our graduates to the mainland because of lack of really any know your direction of how to use it here so yeah and also lack of funding for their dream and vision that you know they get there’s no business that’s gonna hire them to do theirs just trap their stuff if they’re a musical talent you know they’re

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probably gonna find more paid work in New York or in California I mean I had I went and worked for one production company came here a summer job we had an opportunity to work with production coming and right there on the set they’re telling me look you have more opportunity to be working in the industry because you’ve been here even though you’ve just been a production assistant then all that college we don’t even look at the college yeah it’s amazing thing I think you know it

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clearly who you know it’s who you know and just having a base of knowledge that will serve you well in life it’s basically getting yourself out there and how many of us say oh look at that that’s Joe Blow son that’s Mary Jo’s daughter and they are like the same thing we see this the people that are acting their parents were actors yeah the parents are producing yeah it’s really that I remember asking Gary Levitt who did play Trump in my show she was a wonderful actor and a great musician at

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court cocora leader orchestra leader and a singer and I said Carrie don’t you know you are so talented you could easily be making a living in New York City or st. Louis you know where there’s a bigger market and he said no no no no no I’d rather work for free in the theatre do what I love and then separate that from my work life and just stay on Maui that was his trade-off and I think you know he made a clear decision oh yeah I’ve heard that Oh Laurie he works with the county and he’ll work until he you

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know it has to retire and then he’ll be able to fall back on theater full-time but in the meantime all these talented people basically don’t earn a living from what they’re doing and it is such a commitment it’s a huge commitment the amount of times in Rio my god you got to love it and they do love it that’s why they do it well you know there’s a gentleman here that I met you know Mark beltzman you know Mark bellman now we improv yes yes yes mm-hm and he’s here he’s been in a zillion movies and

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productions second city in Chicago yeah and here he is now you know from long distance it’s amazing now because you can do auditions long distance with tape why do I hear someone talking in like I don’t know who’s talking remember it’s community radio folks I think it’s just that lead it’s almost like I’m hearing commercials running uh-huh that’s interesting yeah we have tremendous people here and we’re learning to do things from long distance and so hopefully the media I mean we’re

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all gonna get an opportunity to learn how to use Skype and zoom and FaceTime and it’s true with all this yeah the kids are gonna learn online now we’re gonna become little isolated people where it won’t matter where you are Union isolation yeah or a while if we weren’t isolated before we are now right but it’ll teach us a lot of the skills that we’re gonna need that maybe will bring the mainland closer in terms of opportunity yeah well if we can model how to how to move through a crisis with

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grace and ease and even some modicum of joy if that would be a good thing that would be a very good thing so what happened yesterday unity I didn’t go yesterday I Oh I’m laying blame Tinsley who was my former housemaid of mine and just a wonderful man who’s gotten very very skilled at delivering these talks that just kind of hit home and he did an entire presentation on the importance of managing this disease not just from the physical standpoint but from a spiritual and emotional standpoint as well and

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what to do around the fear thing that takes over and to be cautious but not crazy that kind of thing and just his advice was just so right on in terms of not being swept away by this this contagion on the media well that’s good and I know that they have a Facebook live feed and the Phaedo way up on and on YouTube Facebook yeah you just have to Google unity Maui right and you can access over da door yeah yeah yeah Blaine is getting better have you had him on the show he’d be a great guest

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for you oh well I haven’t yet I’ve been doing like I said I’ve been doing it by subject groups oh I see and you know with after a while I think oh I have a unique guest and then I find they’ve been on Bill best show show and their respective show and I’ve been around so I have I’m kind of going in my own that’s how I’ve been doing I think it’s a good way direction yeah choosing subjects like in this guy that came from Montana Michael Smith was sitting here who was featured in the

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movie the need to grow mm-hmm by doing a show before about farming and the shows afterwards that support these ideas of trying to show our public groups of people and how they relate yeah so that as things go on they have a resource to hear in more detail about things about a certain subject I think that’s brilliant yeah yeah yeah like I have a guy coming next week about structured water ah I’ve heard about structured well again whether one believes it or not I think it or not I thought that would be an interesting

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static to bring I wish it was you know it’s like I know people that take water and turn it into hydrogen and and hydrogen and oxygen for health so I like to bring on things just to get the public thinking and looking and exploring and positive I like to take a negative thing and try to show positive things yeah and doing people that are working in a positive exactly you know what we were on that boat for our whale watching trip with a Kaku and a wonderful J April who’s such a great a great guy he’s the CEO here of a Kaku

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Media Center and I haven’t pitched him this idea yet and I don’t think it’s I’m not sure it’s mine to do but you know a lot of stuff that comes out of here is news newsworthy things and again like I said a lot of it is just what’s not working instead of what is working what’s the breakdown rather than the breakthrough and I was going to suggest that we they do an ongoing series called the positive spin and bring people in who have another take on that on the crisis who can see that crisis this is

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an opportunity which is the Chinese way of looking at life every crisis is an opportunity so bringing that kind of perspective to Maui as terms of a news offering that would be a totally different way of receiving it would be a really cool thing to do AJ if you’re listening no well that’s kind of why I created this neutral zone I think of it as positive in that Mike Molina a councilman always remembers whenever I get them he always tells me you told me to put down the sword you put down the

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sword don’t go into these interviews looking to take paint and cut them up I’m in there to see what do we have in mmm-hmm what can we agree on yes we do we realize we’re not adversarial at all we all want those solutions together and another great thing to do is a call to action again I learned that from Barbara Hubbard after every presentation she would say okay now what can we do in the real world and so I had a call to action at my gutsy woman’s showcase and that was a call to action for people to get

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out and vote and register and tell their friends and here’s the new system on Maui and Judy Levy who I love dearly who is as I call her a social and spiritual activist got up and did the call to action and that way people weren’t just sitting there being entertained they were it being empowered as well right well you know that the old stories that whenever you find different groups getting together they realize vision is one thing but if you don’t take action you’re just a dreamer that’s why I

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formed my organization called the dream makers because it’s more than just dreaming it dreams plus the energy to create the result we all want yeah and co-creation okay I’d like a great example was the show I just did with Lynn McEwan over at Fords she was a great partner and we co-created the whole thing together along with Stephie Garrett and that made it fun for me rather than having to take on the burden of having to do all the promotion and the marketing the tick sales and all the things that go into

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doing a show so finding the your co-creative team is a big part of making it work you’ve been real good at getting groups of teammates yeah action by attraction right that’s great and when the cueing is so tell she’s amazing she’s sang a song a beautiful heart-wrenching song from the musical waitress that I don’t even remember the name of it but it was so poignant and touching there was beautiful moments in that show that uh that we’re hoping I’m gonna see if I can gets my friend Susie

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out there at the front desk to help me make a little video as soon as the highlights so you do have some okay but not a lot just little snippets next year I’ll tape the whole thing we’re gonna do it every year well you know I keep telling people out there and I I’ll say it again all of us are armed with these cameras in our phones Lou who’s our tech engineer from way back when my camera mechanism broke when there was an iPhone 5 we’re up to 10 11 12 now iPhone 5 and I was trying to find

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someone on island to fix the camera mechanism and we couldn’t find him he said to me you know the camera here in this phone this better is stuff around yeah and so I’ve been doing hundreds and hundreds of shows that are up on TV from the phone good so when we all see things out there grab them if you’re in the middle of an event and they say you can video feel free city snag a little excerpt right yeah yeah well you know I just finished taking cat Tracy’s class right here at ikkaku it was just last

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weekend the mobile class the mobile class and I learned so much about how to use your iPhone to capture the moment because I’m working with this beautiful cancer a person who’s walking with cancer and I’m going to be with her and I want to be able to be in the moment with my iPhone to be able to interview her or have her say something she wants to say in the moment and so I really I was going to get a camera person to do it with me I realized oh no no I gotta learn this myself I’m getting a camera

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person I mean I so many people that come to me and say Jason can you videotape could you do a shot and I thought oh look you’re already armed with the tool it’s true the thing is editing you know that’s where I got I don’t I’m not a Virgo I can’t concentrate on small things so I need someone to help me with editing which takes a lot of precision but you know this I understand like I say with my eyesight getting warmed yeah me too so I’ve learned to keep all that as simple yeah you know that thing about

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where’s the beginning of a shot where’s the end of the shot you have you deal with it as little sections and then put them together it can be pretty you can do it it’s a great sense of a sense of accomplishment but you can see why I was talking about three different programs and more for editing to try to go from one to the next the next you gonna have to realize where are you today am i at the TV station or am i over at the college because they use different systems they do and them it’s

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always financial like and why does a Kaku do this this way because iMovie and Final Cut Pro you buy and you own whereas at the college people pay so many dollars per month to Adobe a special rate if you will yeah but you pay and you never own it you’re always renting I see how I see and so that’s better for the college as far as how to deal with it with many people who you know what Katz suggested she said and wish I did I got the app it’s called filmic fi lm I see filmic Pro and it’s

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fortune 99 but it’s worth it because it gives you a lousy to focus right there with your camera and adjust the light it gives you a time thing where you can watch see how many minutes have gone by and it’s just a very high-end app for filming well that’s internal easier to edit to filmic tele ILM IC ke y mo USC filmic that’s gone oh yeah thank you yeah now these classes here at ikkaku that’s worthy of some mention totally the College teaches and they have a whole regime and you can take them there at I

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I think it’s a hundred and fifteen dollars in credit that’s one way to go for class but here at ikkaku we have great classes here absolutely and open to the public very tell and there’s a slight charge for some of them but not you know not prohibitive right and then you get to use them right here exactly and put your own shows on the air and let people know when they’re on and you can have your own private if you will I want to talk about remote viewing yeah I used to think when I was doing shows and

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a lot of people didn’t come what a great thing because their heads weren’t in the way when I was trying to fit yeah and then the afterburn many many many people saw these things online and on on the air after exactly so like I said right now we’re watching television debates presidential debates without a lot I couldn’t watch that did you watch it I ate a portion of it after a while I felt I wasn’t really gaining any any new insights it wasn’t like I saw Joe Biden they say he has Alzheimer’s and stuff I

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didn’t see it yeah now I never see Bernie they both look very violent I just don’t like the competition that kind of they’ve got to work together and I don’t know why they go to each other’s jugular during the debate and then expect them all to work together like happy little campers after the elections over they were pretty mild that’s what I saw he really I thought okay I heard it wasn’t somewhat mild max told me what’s this a mile well you know they pick on each other like hey Joe didn’t you say

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on the Senate floor yeah that do you should reduce Social Security and justice no no I never do said they weren’t Fenneman no I didn’t okay good so but again venemous that somehow held by our current president well give him that give him that title he wins that that’s for sure you know I don’t think there’s anyone I’ve ever seen in the media that tries to he defends himself before anyone accuses him you know what he said though yesterday he said he was going to put a woman in his vice president he did make

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that announcement you’re talking about Joe Biden Biden and Bernie said pretty much yeah I mean they better for god sakes well again Michael and light voices the woman and the woman is not as qualified as the man then I don’t see anything in doing that but there sure are many oh my god I mean I can’t stand that every time I look at the White House lineup there’s two women to every 12 men you know it’s just across the board they’re not representatives because I’m not a

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woman I don’t really it’s Women’s History Month today this month the Jason it’s March Women’s History Month look at the powerful women that have made this country what it is today well you know I like I say I don’t look at men and women I’ve had men on here I read women on here but I appreciate there’s something about the feminine energy that they if they were in control if they had with a fake because we automatically follow our hearts were automatically more compassionate just the way we’re made

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and we look at the who does the rapes the murders the violence in this country in this world it’s men well ninety seven ninety eight percent men is that right absolutely and then let’s try you know the matriarchy worked well for most people so let’s put a woman in charge of Barack Obama said this and I said it many times here and I said it at the show on at the pro arts that a woman should rule every country on earth and a woman should rule every endeavor on earth those are his almost exact words every

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so I thought coming from Obama and he did say we need to have the white guys the old white guys needs the white guys the old guys step back and let the women run the show for a while then we’d have a quantum change in this country yeah the only thing I don’t like about that whole thing is the rule part I keep thinking that well he meant the president I understand but people need to step up I mean to me in this election process right now the work isn’t finding someone to vote for Bernie or Joe Biden

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or Trump the thing is to get the young people to realize yeah that they need to be stepping up in greater numbers yeah they’re the ones that are going to be living this future it’s really true you know what they said in the press conference today with with Trump is I forget who which one of the medical people said it but they said it’s the Millennials who are going to make the difference it’s the Millennials who need to step up now who know are stepping up and they’re unafraid and they’re willing

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to get out there on the front lines because it is their world but also like in what you just said there’s all those Millennials that need to be responsible even though they themselves may not be as targeted by the virus it’s up to them to recognize the impossibility to not be the carriers so that’s why I said it originally being responsible without being in fab salutely absolutely you can be young and be healthy but be responsive to others like my partner like I mentioned my partner has his older and has some kind

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of health potential challenges so even though I’m I’m still I try to feel well I know your partner and I know that she has she is surrounded by the light of God she is totally protected she totally gets who she is and she’s gonna can rise above oh yeah anything that’s like I said I just try to be careful cuz yeah al has been you know sick on occasion yes rather not give it up let’s just send you a little good vibe right now so I just want to say Jason the positive spin I want to see it on this

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coronavirus is that it brings our world together over a common crisis there’s no black/white good/bad any of that it’s the breakthrough under this horrible breakdown could be bringing our global family together I would love to stand that for me would make it worth it well it would make this somehow if the shift happen yeah cuz everything gets very clear when people start dying around you and you start seeing our own humanity but in what links us more than it divides us well that’s back to the the Chinese what

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seems bad is really really exactly our crisis is an opportunity yeah yeah yeah I just finished reading a magazine article for neighbors of Wailea and McKenna and it’s about using our creativity and using this period of time to step forward with our gifts and talents and see what we can do to reshape the future what we can do to make it better that’s a good use of our time yeah so what do you do when you’re not doing radio what’s what are some of your personal path oh well you know I’m

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a nanny I work part-time as a nanny for gas and groceries and because I love yet hey kids have kept me young all these years and I don’t have my grandchildren near me so last night I was at the four seasons in must act bet this was a $5,000 a night sweet it was so luxurious that it was almost beyond the beyond and gorgeous fuse and the kids were actually pretty cute and we walked the grounds and we fed them dinner and put them to bed and I made some cash so that’s one of the things I do $5,000 I think sorry mm-hmm that’s

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what those little sweets go for that are at the Fairmont that are in the water they have their own little pool in the front yeah it’s the 1% well that’s interesting I didn’t know they were that much money I always thought I’ll just have one of those things down at the kailani that’ll be my office for the pleasure quarters yeah that’s amazing I know I know what’s amazing is that people pay that you know you could feed half of half of the town for somebody exactly well that’s how I felt about

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people putting all this money like Bloomberg into his into his campaign you could have been feeding those starving children on the border of Syria and Turkey who are freezing to death in the winter and you still can Mike by the way yeah no kidding that just makes me crazy all that money down the channel all that money is that not even a day’s worth of interest for something else I know people need to get more generous can you imagine we’ve been sitting here an hour and an hour has flown I know the

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feeling you know do we have about a minute left my goodness I want to give you the Florida if I can ma’am to let you tell our audience what you’d like to leave them with okay I think if we all got out of bed every morning and we’re grateful for the first breath we took and for the sound of the birds and for the ocean waves and for our loved ones around us and focused there instead of the ain’t it awful and news of the day that we would be in a far better place physically emotionally and spiritually

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so it’s my recommendation I like your recommendation and I’m gonna leave us all with please come back next week and please be checking out all the shows here at k8k you 88.5 FM it’s always a pleasure to be here with you a more st. John thank you for joining us here today and on Friday make sure you watch it 11 o’clock a more show thank you guys for joining us we are so happy to be here with you and we are leaving you [Music]