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Jason Schwartz enjoys an hour with HAIKU HELEN KRITZLER, provider of Haiku Helen Email Marketing, Palmistry and Psychic Reader, Comedienne with the Maui Improv Group. Wonderful all over the map discussion involving many facets of this interesting and powerful woman . 3-9-2020
Summary & transcript



Introduction and Background of Haiku Helen
Jason Schwartz opens the program from Maui’s Neutral Zone radio, welcoming the multifaceted guest Haiku Helen, known locally for her insightful, opt-in email updates that share news beyond mainstream media. The conversation begins by acknowledging the recent International Women’s Day and reflecting on women’s empowerment through a recent event called “Gutsy Women.” Helen shares her involvement in the Mankind Project, a men’s group focused on personal growth, where she witnessed a powerful weekend training of nearly 2,900 initiates and 55 supporters. This event brought together men who embody support and unity, pointing toward a future beyond gender binaries, emphasizing the idea that “our souls are not gendered.”
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Early Feminist Movement and Soul Identity
Haiku Helen recounts her early activism during the late 1960s, participating in the first waves of the women’s movement in New York City. She gave one of the earliest public speeches on abortion rights before it was legalized, highlighting her deep-rooted commitment to social justice. Helen frames the women’s movement as a soul awakeningrather than strictly a gender conflict, advocating for identity beyond traditional societal labels such as race, gender, and nationality. She stresses that all dichotomies stem from one fundamental unity, a concept resonating with quantum theory and spirituality. Helen and Jason explore the idea that recognizing shared humanity and common values is essential for societal healing. - [12:00 → 19:00]
Soul, Self-Realization, and Multifaceted Human Identity
The discussion deepens into the concept of the soul entering a physical body (female, male, etc.) and the challenges and lessons inherent in that incarnation. Helen reflects on her current stage of life (age 77) and her ongoing spiritual studies, notably Judaism, which reinforce her belief that the soul never dies but expresses itself through the body and DNA heritage. She emphasizes self-realization as a uniquely personal journey, where individuals recognize and transcend societal conditioning. Helen describes her spirit name from Mankind Project training, “Gentle and Peaceful Lion,” symbolizing the balance between strength and compassion. The conversation highlights the importance of passing the torch with integrity and lightening one’s grip on control, connecting this to the mission of the Mankind Project. [19:00 → 25:00]
Integration of Diverse Wisdom Traditions and Environmental Action
Helen and Jason connect their shared vision of integrating arts, music, environmental care, and spirituality into collective action. They mention the Maui Arts and Music Association (MAMA) and the Tree Makers Foundation as examples of local groups working to blend vision with action. Helen shares a story about Michael Smith from Montana, who innovatively uses green waste to produce biochar and biostimulants that aid sustainable agriculture, illustrating how ancient wisdom and modern science are converging to solve environmental problems. The dialogue reiterates the ongoing process of “relearning” and embracing both old and new wisdom as part of human evolution and consciousness expansion. [25:00 → 33:00]
Judaism, Spirituality, and Interfaith Connections
Helen reveals her renewed interest in Judaism as part of her spiritual journey after studying Hinduism and Buddhism. She describes her initial skepticism about Judaism’s spiritual depth and her discovery of contemporary teachers like David Solomon, whose teachings resonated deeply. Helen draws intriguing parallels between Jewish and Indian spiritual traditions, noting linguistic and mythological overlaps—such as connections between Abraham and the Brahmin priests of India. This exploration underscores the universal roots and interconnectedness of ancient wisdom traditions, reinforcing the theme of unity amid apparent diversity.- [33:00 → 41:00]
The Role of Spiritual Practice and Sabbath Observance
Helen shares her personal experience of practicing the Jewish Sabbath (Shabbat) as a meditative retreat, describing the transformative impact of disconnecting from technology and daily distractions for 25 hours. She explains the concept of multiple levels of the soul in Jewish mysticism and how the Sabbath elevates one’s spiritual awareness by connecting with a higher soul. The practice brought her a profound sense of timelessness, peace, and spiritual receptivity, with messages encouraging generosity, doing one’s best, and releasing attachment to outcomes. This personal insight ties back to the overarching theme of surrender and trust in a higher intelligence within the spiritual journey. - [41:00 → 50:00]
Aging, Wisdom, and Memory
Helen and Jason reflect on the aging process, noting a shift from sharp cognitive agility to expanded wisdom and deeper emotional insight. Helen shares how she can vividly recall childhood memories, experiencing them almost as if reliving them, underscoring the power of memory in preserving identity and wisdom. They discuss how life’s challenges, including the “explosions” and blessings, contribute to enriching one’s perspective and gratitude. The conversation highlights the importance of embracing one’s evolving capacities and appreciating the soul’s growth over time. - [50:00 → 56:00]
Palmistry, Intuition, and Energy Work
Helen elaborates on her practice of palmistry, which she inherited from her mother’s family lineage. Initially skeptical, she now sees palmistry as a valid tool for understanding a person’s attributes, challenges, and life path, akin to astrology but grounded in physical markers such as the lines and bumps on the palm. She explains that palmistry reflects genetic and energetic information encoded in the body. Beyond palm reading, she uses intuitive energy work and Tibetan Buddhist practices to help clients release blockages and transform energy. This holistic approach blends spiritual insight with practical guidance for personal growth. - [56:00 → 01:00:00]
Community, Media, and Sharing Wisdom
In closing, Helen and Jason discuss the importance of sharing diverse perspectives through community media like the Maui Neutral Zone radio. Helen encourages listeners to access her services via email and visit her website, haikuhelen.com. They emphasize the power of bringing together different “facets of the diamond”—the many layers and dimensions of human experience—to create a more integrated and enlightened society. Helen expresses optimism about the internet as a tool for accessing and disseminating ancient and new wisdom, fostering connection and awakening in the modern world.
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- Timeline of Key Topics Discussed
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| Timestamp | Topic Summary |
| 00:00–00:05 | Introduction, International Women’s Day, Mankind Project event, gender unity, soul beyond gender |
| 00:05–00:12 | Early feminist activism, soul identity beyond categories, universal oneness |
| 00:12–00:19 | Soul incarnation, self-realization, spirit names, passing torch with integrity |
| 00:19–00:25 | Integrating arts, music, environment, sustainable tech example, relearning wisdom |
| 00:25–00:33 | Judaism study, spiritual interconnections between traditions, Abraham and Brahmin parallels |
| 00:33–00:41 | Sabbath practice as spiritual retreat, multiple soul levels, message of generosity and detachment |
| 00:41–00:50 | Aging and wisdom, vivid childhood memories, gratitude for life’s lessons |
| 00:50–00:56 | Palmistry origins, intuitive energy healing, Tibetan Buddhist practices |
| 00:56–01:00 | Community media, sharing wisdom, encouraging broad connection, website and contact info |
Key Insights and Themes
- Soul Beyond Gender and Labels: The soul is considered genderless and transcends societal categories, emphasizing unity over division.
- Early Feminist Movement as Soul Awakening: Activism focused on liberation from imposed identities, connecting deeply with one’s true self.
- Self-Realization as a Lifelong Process: Personal growth involves recognizing societal conditioning and choosing authentic identity.
- Spiritual Integration of Diverse Traditions: Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and indigenous wisdom all offer complementary insights toward awakening.
- Sabbath as a Meditative Practice: Observing the Sabbath is a powerful way to enter timelessness and connect with higher spiritual levels.
Aging Brings Expanded Wisdom: Cognitive decline in some areas is balanced by deeper emotional intelligence and memory recall.
- Palmistry as a Reflection of Genetic and Energetic Patterns: The palm holds clues to personality traits and life challenges, validated by intuitive work.
- Community and Media as Vehicles for Shared Wisdom: Platforms like Maui Neutral Zone foster connection and collective awakening.
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- Contact and Resources
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| Resource | Details |
| Haiku Helen Email | haikuhelen@gmail.com |
| Website | haikuhelen.com |
| Maui Neutral Zone Radio | 88.5 FM, Maui; live Mondays 11 a.m., replay Saturdays 7 a.m. |
| Mankind Project | mkp.org (Men’s personal growth training) |
Conclusion
The conversation with Haiku Helen is a rich exploration of soul identity, spiritual awakening, and the interplay between ancient traditions and modern challenges. It highlights the importance of embracing multifaceted human nature and cultivating unity beyond superficial divisions. Helen’s journey through feminist activism, spiritual practices, and intuitive healing offers practical wisdom for self-realization and community empowerment. The dialogue encourages listeners to engage with their own souls, contribute positively to the world, and remain open to both timeless wisdom and new insights.
Transcript
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good morning everyone it’s Monday at 11 o’clock this is Jason Schwartz I have a terrific guest today I am [Music] Oh [Music] watch this hand [Music] you hope you get my good morning everyone Aloha it’s Jason Schwartz we’re in Maui Hawaii this is the neutral zone Maui neutral zone .com kaku 88.5 FM the voice of Maui and today is a really special day I have I have a great guest today let me first introduce many of you out there who live in Maui get select emails that have very high value

because they share people that you don’t see in like regular news as much but she makes it available to be able to send that information on an opt-in basis to people that want to know if you ever heard of haiku Helen we are now unveiling haiku Helen welcome to our show good to see you Jason we know each other a long time and we know well that just means we were children together just this weekend was an interesting day for all of us in that it’s now celebrated as International Women’s Day
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it was yesterday March 9th and here we are March 10th yeah amaura light who many people on our station know from her show gutsy women had a show Saturday night of a bunch of women are you in that no no no no I listened I was supposed to go but I didn’t I I I got I couldn’t go but they had a great thing but I was thinking how we didn’t plan it that way but we had I’m part of a group called the mankind project yes and we had a new warrior training adventure in Camp K and I was beautiful this last weekend I think 29
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initiates and 55 people in support isn’t that an affirmative now it’s beautiful how would you like to be going through something and having that kind of a group of caring you know thoughtful men it was beautiful and what I’m talking Mike Dario this morning you know area of course and she was thinking you know that it was Woman’s Day but when he knowing men we think nothing but support it was such a beautiful thing so men and women one of the guys they were saying maybe someday we will even get rid of the box that
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says male female other and just say we are water if we keep doing this I don’t like to be I’m from Venus right you know it’s like when this world and universe gets bigger when do we realize that we are one yeah yeah how much spirituality do we need to if we aligned with the with the what do we say with the natural universe yeah with our true Souls which which is not a gender our soul our soul is not gendered see that now let’s really change subject so we we just went diving into the subject
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because that’s part of who you are also you’re a many-faceted diamond you know here we are I think of you as you beef way back when when I first began to know you you are an active mother not beautiful son right and you also had had a career in in business before what were you doing night I worked for Atari I wrote games game program game programmer here on Maui hiding doing things like this but you also have other sides because haiku helen is also known for her palmistry palmistry what is pong
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well let me let me let me let me let me because you’ve mentioned some that I connect to I just want to talk about the women’s movement because this you might not know about me I was in the very very beginning of the women’s movement in New York City the very very first group that began when we first started to talk about what is women’s oppression the you know the I gave the very first abortion speech that you know before abortion was legal speaking about the illegal abortions I had had
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may I ask just so I can place it in my life to it when was that what years as 68 so I was in college 69 I graduated from how active I was just in high school so your oh I think you younger than me in April 11 I’m 69 oh okay we’re all sort of the same yes you younger people you go oh he’s 10 years older than me 20 years you and me and then as we get older we start to look the same like when uh people have their dog the longer you go look you don’t looks like you you look like it the we are as we grow older we forget
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those lines like I have a know a partner who’s a little bit older than elbow many people see her as young and beautiful yeah no she’s great I love you I love her yes I was saying that um yeah I was there way back I was there in the very very very beginning good for you yeah yeah thank you yeah it came out of really the black movement some of the women had been you know with Martin Luther King some of the people who came you know first came out and realized that in that enduring the anti-vietnam
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war they were secretaries and they were you know the girls and they said no and that’s really where it started from the the people who first began it and it was what I was gonna say about it for me it was about soul at that moment it wasn’t about men and women it was like as soon as I started hearing it I was saying I said yes because don’t tell me I’m a girl don’t tell me I’m on this one I’m this person it’s not the same argument with don’t tell me I’m white or Blaney’s
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for American America all right I mean all of these categories nation separate right yeah adversary you know they always say that you can’t have one position unless there’s another position that’s what perspective but it can be the hot and cold the dynamics of the universe right the balance of what is all boils down to one thing it’s one yeah that’s and that’s your quantum my quantum theory yeah yeah you know I truthfully when we were talking on I mixed it all up really because I want the world to know what we
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all what you know and what I know is we are like many facets people think they know this or that we we that’s what this neutral zone is all about I can speak to someone that some people say it is an adversary because they like this they don’t like this I just went to a training and one of the guys there he’ll be a guest if I can get him this week right Jason Stover is his name oh he’s a great guy Karen Stoffer related to related this guy Jason Stover lives in West Virginia right now when one think
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he’s right in the middle the Trump country we lied and we never even talked politics but you can just feel how we all fit together and the distances and different if you take away all the things that make you think you’re supposed to belittle someone or find us reason to separate rather than see what we agree on and I think I would just add to that I think the thing that the the thing about differences is we we have gifts to give each other like you say something to me that’ll wake something
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in my mind or I’ll share something with you so so by putting all of these little puzzle pieces together we actually create a greater whole and that we become that one you know don’t we at least be I’m just gonna bring it back again my maui arts and music vision and action is mama and papa arts and music taking care of our environment together and creating a foundation it’s not just vision it’s vision plus action together oh yeah yeah all these ideas you know they they’re just all on us
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like the movie remember Close Encounters of the 3rd yeah yeah no matter of the things just came of age a room was suddenly building these Mountain right right right yeah I think I just said that consciousness is raising we are becoming more and more aware of something greater than this if this is all there is oh my god you know what yeah what I think is really fascinating I mean you and I have lived through let’s say 70 years we’ve watched we’ve watched history move from you know the 50s to
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the 60s to the 7 to these eighties we’ve watched all these things happen and you know each decade brings a new understanding and a new awareness and then we have I I feel at this point like Oh 70 years well this is such a young country I’d never really realized you know what 250 years we’re babies the babies you know just like in medicine Chinese medicine is thousands and thousand years old and we say this way it’s a very funny world oh yeah that’s why I think the when we talk
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about awakening and with everyone’s looking and then realizing that they’re part of it that vision with the action that goes with it when they come to grips with who they are and they stand in their own commitment of what is and they clear up things that are blocking them from self-realization right well you know what I think about self-realization actually I was thinking about this on my way here like what are we gonna talk about to me when I follow because I think the other thing is like as in in
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this stage that I am now I actually turned 77 so I’m a few years older than you I also erielle is you know in your neighborhood l okay so almost birthday buddy she’s April 8th I’m a little oh how sweet so um what I’m seeing now what I’m beginning to see is that soul and I’m just studying Judaism actually that’s my new kick this soul comes into the body the soul never dies it’s just the body that dies so this soul that comes in and then we’re you know we’re born with all
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this various DNA that comes down through you know these generations as we discover who we are on this earth plane that soul says yeah I understand that or I don’t understand this when I connect to that inner soul that inner knowing that’s why I say when the woman’s movement first started I didn’t have to hear anybody say anything I said yeah don’t make me into that did you know what a woman is supposed to be I know who I am I’m the soul so it fit you know and then we discussed how this all was being
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treated you know when I take on a female body how is this soul being treated no that’s not fair that’s not right because I Know Who I am as us all not as a category and I forget why I the soul and how its expressed through physical action well that we get what we need to learn lessons yes you know all the stuff we hear and from many different people and some people say oh I don’t know you have to do it this way when is it has to be that way it’s got to be that way self realization is made so personal
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yeah it’s like I went to 85 men at one group yeah and my spirit name chosen by me through this process is gentle and peaceful lion Buda thought think I’m not a lion right I’m a gentle and peaceful one so this is this is fascinating that you just went through this I’m you know it i got went through it a couple of years ago but so I’m one of oh I get your support but that experience made me realize I don’t have to be right there doing every process if I need to be I know how to roar I know how to give
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when I feel I have to give but isn’t it the role of a king or someone with wisdom to realize hey you can’t pass the torch without lightening up and loosening your gripple of new mate you know and passing it that’s what mankind project feels like to me giving men of all ages mm-hmm the opportunity to align with and pass the torch of with values and integrity so my question to you would be is there something that happened this weekend that was new for you that was new for me yeah I think
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what I have to think about it it’s renewing because when they were talking about visioning and mission statement without giving details Louie what the leader was wondering in a while I wasn’t writing in the book we didn’t the new guy came from Chicago man he was wonderful guy brother G’s named us a beautiful mixture I told you West Virginia a Seattle man from India was going through the initiation it’s and I forgot 14 countries write languages but there’s an awareness what did I learn
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you learn yeah a read you know I will I say the word relearn I think of were you here and did you see Michael Smith when he was here no there’s a man that was on a show I made this shirt because it just makes me feel good Michael Smith was from a company called Regina tech mm-hm and he’s in Montana remote Montana they take green waste and with a process of growing algae through that process able to extract hydrogen and methane power an engine that they go and be burn and create biochar and create the most
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valuable piece which is biostimulants that when used on ground gives plants it the the biochar carries these stimulants and holds them in suspension so plants get these things that they don’t have to create themselves they’re in their environments and so they can grow and pesticides aren’t need I mean it’s it’s like wow you know you know it’s a it’s a it’s very interesting what you’re talking about here I think yeah what I learned as we learn we keep relearning
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and realizing there’s new wisdom old wisdom wisdom is wisdom it’s that ability isn’t it to take and honor the old but be open and willing for the new to integrate isn’t that what a being is doing well let me think about that I’m just trying to see if I have this if I have the same process I think that for me it’s like okay there’s a certain understanding that I gain you know over the years you know as I learn new things and get opened up to to new ways of new perspectives and then I have to fix it
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it you know put it into what I already know like how does this all connect together like you for example epigenetics when that first came about or or now we’re we’re learning a lot about how we can heal ourselves from cancer from you know various things that really which is connected to you to what you’re talking about I mean right now new or something revealed and possibly revisited the Chinese wisdom that now they make into an artificial thing when it’s their natural if they just I was just
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listening to dispenser again I listen to him for a long time but I really this sense of that he was talking about the placebo right do you think the placebo and your body it’s just what you were talking about about the earth that your body will create that chemical that it needs to cure yourself you don’t have to take that pill it’s not like Oh suddenly I believe I’m going to be a well and therefore I’m gonna be well no what happens is it’s a process of believing by believing and maybe
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focusing in the body that you’re going to get well that the body itself creates that particular chemical that it needs to cure you that’s just wonderful that’s fit together when you said that I thought of comedy and the people that have cancer that find comedy then I thought another aspect of this wonderful woman Maui improv yeah right you know this weekend one of our new brothers is Mark beltzman oh yeah yeah I heard he went so you hear comedy but the head facet now someone who gets a dynamic isn’t that we
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keep seeing how all this fits together hope you guys are picking this up you know what I was thinking about this this is it cuz I was I was thinking about this coming here either what am I gonna talk about I was thinking and again I’m just gonna go back to the soul cuz with this new Jewish Studies I’m doing just reigniting as you’re saying revisiting like recognize that you come in as that a soul now how you express it we have to express it to a female body I came in as a female I came in as a Jew like a mini
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Orca and we discovered these gifts that we have you know I draw I act I write they all come from the same soul passion you know they that’s that soul passion and then I then the the gifts of of improv or the gifts of drawing or the gifts of writing or the the the radio show the hosting that you do is that is is how your soul is coming through this gift which is not yours the gift is in your is in your genes you you know share it from a source greater than I that aligns look at my whole keep like
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I keep doing it Maui Arts and Music Association mama and have people aligned in positive action is the power of the mother and the fun and the mama and the Papa to take a vision and action and be tree makers not dreamers three makers we can solve these problems we’re in 2020 we should have perfect vision but we have trouble we have come I figure that the way to your way quote to turn bat a mentality that is that yeah that is what do we say that is manifesting as Donald Trump right is to see what we have in common as values
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because from there we wanna find the answer that Horton Lange everyone and and the thing also about Trump is really that you know we wouldn’t have a OC we wouldn’t have all of these you know people saying well if the if the national government is not got a federal government’s not going to do it we got to do it here you know we gotta can take control of our lives because they’re talking well here we are now Maui what a great up against why I always talk about if we go back to the
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same stuff to take all these pieces together make this beautiful an example for the world been called the mama and the Papa to show our art a musical culture beautiful people well if you will listen to our shows at Maui neutral zone calm I’m here with iku hell and Crisler Helen is multifaceted we’re exploring all kinds of stuff so if you’re on radio 88.5 FM if you’re on tuned in you can get us kak you radio let’s see where l you can get us at Maui neutral zone calm the next day and you can see a number of
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our shows because this is by design I guess it’s my design I choose my guests they seem to be organic grouping yes in a way that is sharing a vision you know like the matrix what is our part in this yes I’m not trying to reinvent I’m trying to identify and relate and when that happens like when you were just talking I’m thinking palmistry aren’t you really read everyone has a unique yes a unique piece so the the spiritual fits in with the physical aligns with you know these things that people find so mystical and
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I astrology now when you look at all that stuff you realize what an amazing I met this matrix so the fact of the matter is this is the way I’ve always looked at everything is that there’s a material reflection of it and there’s a spiritual reflection of it so palmistry I mean your DNA you’re born you know when you’re gonna get your period as a woman is kind of in your DNA yeah you know when you when you and mature as a man is kind of in your DNA so a lot of things that are gonna happen as we grow
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up is already programmed in there so it’s not surprising that there should be reflections of it in the palm I mean I started doing palmistry because my mother was a promised and she got it from her grandfather so I would watch her read people’s palms and so I got interested and I began to study it did I believe it when I first heard snow I didn’t believe it I mean it sounded kind of ridiculous sounds ridiculous why should you be able to read the bump but as I’ve been doing it all of these years I see that it
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totally works you could totally just like astrology you could totally see the persona of the person their attributes their strengths their you know what they’re going through it shows up in the palm it’s a it’s it’s it’s incredible it’s incredible we are gonna take a break for our sponsors here in a minute I you know you wondered what we were gonna talk about it seems like oh it sounds like a big mishmash but it’s not really a mishmash because it all fits together as perfectly I like
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what I thought this weekend every time I looked at mark beltzman ring I thought about you and and the good Jeff Hisle is right these are people you see people that have all kinds of facets man that make up the physicalist in the spiritual the serious and this big in that moment as you know what it’s like yeah it’s not what we’re doing here this is improv yeah people ask me you’ve do a lot of research for your shows and I I tell them the story of my friend Sharon Levine you may be sure olivine
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was a guy used to be in the garment industry in New York his name was Harvey Levine he wrote a book after they got out of I think he said 11 insane asylums oh oh yeah and he wrote a book of poetry and Chiron was just insightful and interesting I forgot what we’ve been talking about but just all these energies that fit together just so perfectly in our world you know I don’t think that we’re gonna find Donald Trump is here for a reason yeah yep well I got my adversary I’d like him to see what we’re doing go I
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like that let’s do that you know can’t we all leave each other through our who in what we do well I think down Donald Trump is a certain personality that has arisen now which kind of allows us to say wait a minute wakes us up to say I have to do something oh my you know what I mean he’s like the night and we’re the day you know what I mean it’s a you know if I mean Obama was great but we could all sort of sit back and relax and let Obama you know do whatever he did things about
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Obama that we could also criticize so that’s why I say I truck that’s what this zone is I can criticize Obama and record I could have I could criticize Trump quite a bit but rather than focus there what I find like focusing on is all the good things and that’s what that’s why you’re here yeah because how can people you know young people see all the people you know I say older wisdom is in many shapes and Sun it all I know you have to go for a dad but I was gonna say that for me my life is ever like I
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said I just about two years ago I had studied Buddhism I had said it Hinduism you know I studied many different religious teachings and but I’m letting you know now I’m studying judy’s Judaism and I mean I didn’t know anything about it really so fascinating well you know I’m kind of trying various practices and it’s been a revelation to me it’s I didn’t expect it I really did not expect that but it’s it’s an extraordinary experience so for me I’m always like a little kid whoa here’s a
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new package I’m gonna open up on Christmas morning how wonderful I felt that always were bombed us if we be here now yeah and have that that new awakening awareness couldn’t why aren’t we happy if we’re happy in the moment in the air in the moment yeah yeah I’m gonna take a break for longer sponsors well I have sponsors old and new one is a cash-for-gold combine alone Richard Dan oh we know and Harry eager who writes restating the obvious he was at Maui news report a business reporter 25 years
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paia so there’s a building in the way or another signal around you might not catch us as easily as finding us up on the web that’s why we are also our facebook live that’s why we have these cameras here so people can get to enjoy us out of our small vicinity you know and then we put it on TV and they’re up there everyday we have a beautiful library of people just like you different different facets of the diamond but all part of this wonderful thing called one therefore why is that
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why they call the one after Reese Pell Italy we were just talking right before the break about your exploration into Judaism now you were born a Jew I was born a Jew right and I grew up when I got bar Mitzvahed I had a choice do you want to go continue doing school Anna and so I know the basics and it was reformed Jew but I you know I didn’t think about it but in studying Judaism it’s like opening up a new box on what you see in that dog well I you know I don’t know what your background I mean
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they were various you know kinds of Jews I think my family was sort of like the socialist the you know Moses was the first revolutionary right violent revolution that was no but I’m saying my parents were you know of the left-wing yeah mom said no and he smack that guy and said yeah let us go let us go so um so you know what like you Reform Judaism totally boring the rabbi was totally boring everything seems totally boring and when I went for spirituality I ended up you know in India with Muktananda and I had
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extraordinary experiences you know powerful experiences and Buddhism powerful of wonderful teachings but I was always curious about Judaism because I thought you know Jews are they’re comedians they’re businessmen they’re communists you know me they do look around you know they they’ve how come there isn’t any great rabbi so he’s always kind of like looking and I discovered somebody a couple of years ago on the internet who was fantastic and I started listening to him name his
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name is David Solomon and not all David Solomon no no no no no he’s from Australia anyway we invited him to come here he gave a teaching here and I got like a transmission from him and I began to study like okay maybe there’s something more I mean after all they’ve been riding it like you said the Chinese they’ve been riding it for five years I mean it goes back 5,000 years right so there’s the June and now we’re via 57 something yeah actually the Messiah is supposed to come I think in the exact
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way we are the Messiah all right hopefully a part of its interesting let me hear what cuz you know all these religions Larry Feinberg right used to say scratch a Buddhist scratch a Hindu find a Jew well so so very interesting so I so so this goes back to when I was in Muktananda this is this is just one little thing that I’ve learned from studying this um this tribe I don’t really like Judaism because that’s Judah may be Israelites with the Hebrews when I was with Muktananda in India and
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we spent every morning reading what was called the Guru Gita and I come across this word a Brahman because one side is in sin script and the other side it’s a translation so I see a Brahmin and I look over at the translation and it says first priest I said wait a minute that’s Abraham right and it’s his first priest father / Judy it can’t be there’s got to be a connection with that so for years I I thought something’s something something is not being told there’s something here so more recently since
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I’ve been studying this I realized I looked it up on the Internet I’m not the only one that came up with this connection and when I researched it so it turns out that Brahman was married to Saraswathi Abraham was married to Sarah Saraswathi had her first child when she was 90 and Brahman was a hundred I Isaac was born I mean Abraham idea Isaac was born when Abraham was a hundred and Sarah was ninety sounds like you’re reading the Jewish but I’m saying there’s so many as I began to research
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it Brahman believed it was the Creator God he’s the father of the Indian nation Abraham is the father of the Brahmins or priests the Brahmins of priests the children of Abraham are supposed to be priests the and then there’s another part which I found out from someone else that Solomon said they said in the Torah it says that Solomon was as wise as the children that went to the east it turns out when Sarah died Abraham had relations within this again is in the Torah had relationships with many
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concubines like hundreds and he sent them off to the east with gifts and then later the gifts the children of these they say Solomon was the supplies this anyway this connection is like wait a minute something’s going on here that no you know people haven’t really talked about which connects us all together as one once again your point it’s like Close Encounters of the Third Kind some of these that’s why I say we’re all awakening we who step out you know you were a leader being you did it
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because it came to self-realizing yeah that this action helped make a difference in the physical world yeah absolutely so we’re supposed to do yeah that’s why I say I am just I give you I try not to find myself lingering on the negativity although I see it all around me and I’m passionately interested in changing things and trying my best but try to do it from a gentle and peaceful place you know cuz no doubt I can be a lion the lion king when I think of those images and realize that the king that is
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the gentle king yeah one who is there when he needs to be managed and just you know it’s very exciting times Milligan yeah I think it is everyone out there is has the power to make a difference if you don’t like Trump you can vote for someone else but you vote you don’t not fold right you have the power and you take your unique position and you do something you come along isn’t it great how action you come along this was a wonderful weekend for all you men out there if you were to go to M kp.org I
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think they probably explained it in their mission statement it was a thing that came back at me I had interviewed a guy named Harry Newman mm-hmm from Philadelphia right and his girlfriend who was Phyllis Newman any um a-and any wo two of them were together but and what was interesting to me was he I didn’t realize at the time he was we did a television show you guys on TV remember we did a TV show and he was talking about the mankind project that he got into 1991 and really late and then dr.
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Joseph Cohn who’s here on Maui I was sitting talking to his wife Arlene about the dream makers Foundation and vision in action and he said you should make the men in the event I’m proud you should do so he said how first came to it yeah is I had this friend and he mentioned they were having a boy a weekend and I said yeah I’ll do that and went to it and it was a great experience for me that’s what self self-realization or enlightenment is seeing how we’ve been formed which is what you’re talking
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about formed by by this society make your men have to do this and men can cry or or women have to cry and they can’t you know how we’re formed by this and then we see it as a structure that we do not have to fit into as long as we see it we’re free of it if we can’t see it then we’re trapped by it but from what you’re saying by by seeing it that’s realizing the self that’s realizing the soul from outside this society or point of view that’s making us into this woman or man you know like
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oh I don’t have to be that at all I can be who and what I write and fit into this creation yeah which I am active in right it’s a beautiful thing yeah so I’m sure that you out there some of you are saying these guys are really airy-fairy what’s the deal yeah I think an airy-fairy we’re flying because we’re we’re exploring things outside that traditional box yeah I’ve had so much fun with with I call them politicians and I you know people in Council and mayor and whatever
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because when you pull away all the veils and you get down to when you’re electing someone you want to see who and what they are right that’s what I hope we do man I don’t know where to go you know there’s a lot of things that I can’t let that go I would love to go into the comedy in the improv okay but I think about the palmistry you know and I think how really interesting you do these readings around here on the island all the time yeah time yeah so if you want I’m gonna put a link on the website and
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its psychic promise tree since I start with the palm which tells me who you are as a you know like astrology like you you attribute your power but then I go into the more intuitive place because you know the brain waves its electromagnetic we’re electromagnetic and electricity doesn’t stay inside the head so you know we do pick up a whole world is picking up energy from everywhere you know and when you focus in on it and you begin to do it you begin to be able to connect to those brain waves and connect to you know
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understanding so I go into a more intuitive place to if people want to know what they should do right now which might W night not be written in the palm like how should I handle this or how should I handle that right so as you have repeat clients that you see people come back and then and then just to add to what I hear so after we figure out what’s going on with them or what we’re they’re being blocked and I do a lot of different processes to let go of those better than I do an energy
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transformation from a lot of my Tibetan Buddhist practices and some new stuff from my and it still don’t like where Judaism refined Jewish practices like to think of it as well I just I think that’s limited name I mean it comes from you Judah that feel better I like Israelites I like Israelites even though the rosters have made that I said Israel I call the fights over Israel’s terror yeah that’s terrible to Bank territory that’s our Hebrew Jewish what’s a Jew it comes from Judah yeah
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yeah yeah was from the northern was I believe it was a part of the northern tribes and yeah anyway okay I think we have to come up with a new name those guys so what was this wisdom that you really was finding yeah I’ll tell you one of the things that that I got was somebody was talking about doing the Sabbath well I’d never done the Sabbath I just heard about it but I but I was in this group studying the Zohar and this one woman said well it’s like an extent you know it’s like an extended she was doing a meditative
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retreat she said it’s like an extended Sabbath I said oh a Sabbath is a retreat I never thought of that let me try this thing called so I wake up one morning well first I like the candles Friday night and I read about it turns out that you get a higher soul on the Sabbath and you get a there are five souls in in Judaism is the nefesh which is your body soul just your ordinary living on the earth soul then there’s as I say there’s five other levels and the highest soul is the one that connects
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with the divine intelligence is that what the Sephiroth is all about it’s connected there’s a connection but no it’s not exactly that so that’s fine oh yeah so you get this higher soul it’s actually the third so you get the on the Sabbath that’s what they say that’s what they say and they say two angels come in yeah you know that’s what they say I like the candles I say I know the the barakah and sure enough I’m starting to feel you know it’s lovely oh you’re lighting the candles a
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place looks nice you don’t turn on the TV no electricity I wake up the next morning it’s dark it’s like 5:00 a.m. you’re not supposed to turn on lights that’s supposed to put on any electricity so I walk into the living room and I slowly watch the Sun come through the curtains and I think I’m not supposed to do anything today that’s the commandment don’t do anything so I sit here and I say oh well usually if I have a moment I go to the computer I talk to somebody on the phone I’m
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always being distracted there’s not a moment of just unless I’m doing meditation but even meditation I have my instructions I just and then I realize I could take an hour to walk from my chair to that door because there’s nothing to do today for the next twenty five hours so it’s sort of like time has disappeared because time has to do with this thing and then this thing and then the next thing like this this is going to be over it is certain we have to fit everything it suddenly there’s no
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fitting in of anything and I feel this like you know we’ll talk about whoo-whoo I feel this dimension like opening up I’m in a timeless zone so now really get whoo-whoo so I’m in this timeless zone nothing to do but just sit here and I’m beginning to feel this energy this you know it’s wonderful peaceful the birds I’m hearing the birds I’m watching this light come in and then I get a message I get a message and I’m told be generous [Music] I’m told do your very best I’m told but
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the end result is not in your hands so I’ve been meditating on this message there was the only time I got a message but I’ve been meditating on that message for the past I think you know I think it’s about a year but I got it and I’ve become more generous you know somebody can’t afford you know I said well pay me what you can you know I just I and then I realized I want to be generous we all want to be generous but we can’t be generous because people take advantage you know people take advantage of you or
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whatever and then this this word that I got do your very best but the end result is not in your hands it’s like there’s a lot of things I haven’t done in life because I’m afraid I’m not good enough you know or the burden is on me to make sure it’s gonna be something I’d rather not do it but if the end result isn’t out of my hands then I can do my very very best and it’s not up to me how this interview how this radio show goes it’s up to some else you know so I don’t have
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to be I can let go of that fear yet but and I can do my and I can do my very best which means my very best does it mean vivere best I don’t have to be as good as get out the greatest actor the greatest improviser I don’t have to be other great if you’re the greatest you that you can be I can exfoli expression to my very best that’s it what a great revelation yeah it was and I’m still working with it I’m still you know letting that open me up more and more to see wherever it takes me
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you know talk about being blessed I was just looking at you and thinking I think you talked about being 77 yeah yeah did you ever think 77 look like you’re growing up our whole world is now shifting or awakening getting eat not eating this we’re eating that look how we’re just continuing to evolve yeah the only things that stop us are not the only thing but the regulators so the people that don’t or that you know it’s really a funny world if we just relax and do what’s right feels right
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it’s a great thing it’s wonderful talking to you because I get to to play the game some people are very singularly focused or they’re very very much into these little little things they do but you know but I’ve had explosions in my life that went later though the blessings come from the things that happened to us right the wisdom that comes the feelings that come all that stuff you start to really appreciate and have a lot of gratitude for your life you know realize with doing nothing but
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just being me is where you get the greatest attitude to have your soul raise yeah exactly you know I was thinking also because as we age you know it’s like I’m not quite as sharp improv years ago you know I like configured I was like what was what was what was the name of that servant but but what I notice and I don’t know if you have this experience but what I notice in this aging process is yeah my brain maybe can’t retain all the details you know I never could do crossword puzzles but
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that kind of brain but the wisdom brain is expanding and the other thing that I’m finding and you tell me if you find this I can remember now in my childhood like I can go back do certain moments and almost be there again like I can go back I tried this once I thought Commodore around my house that I grew up in come in the front door and walk by those couches and you know just like in my mind you know just see it and as I was doing that I suddenly heard my mother say in my you know in this imagination I
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heard a sigh glad skipper in who was our dog but I could you know it was like I I could really relive those early moments that are so powerful our childhood is so powerful inside and that’s why when you asked me what this weekend did I yes no right and I jumped to what I said that’s it that’s it I didn’t know what my answer was gonna be my it’s relearning getting in touch with something remembering a memory who would remember my skipper and right it’s really good yeah this universe awesome unfortunately
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we are honestly I’m looking at this hell okay we’re a two camera shoot we’re on Facebook live this is kku 88.5 FM the voice of Maui and we have a bunch of people here that doing these shows that are really fabulous ya know it’s great that you’re doing this because it’s really recording the people who lived on Maui at this time I mean they might you know in the year you know 2050 or or 3000 they’ll go back and think of us see I don’t have those pictures and videos
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of my mom and dad and grandparents as much because they weren’t around and we didn’t have the technology now we’re taking these moments and passing them on to this library oh it’s always happening in the cosmic world you touched in it so say mom let’s Skippy Skippy skipper skipper in right yeah let skipper it you know who probably would be a great host for a show can you imagine it’s now we have about two minutes amazing yeah so I think I should first say haiku Helen you are a beautiful
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woman thank you thank you thank you thank you for deciding to come to my show yeah I really know that you know you’re a gift to everybody how do people get in touch with you well they could just write to a haiku Helen a gmail.com that’ll get get to me right away who H aik you Helen a goe m at gmail you guys that’d do that and I have a website you know haiku Helen calm and I have actually some videos where I talk they’re old but where I talk about my palmistry and what I do in my sessions
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you’re around I hope if people want to come Maui improv I know I’ve seen you there many do yeah yeah I love that great group of people yeah yeah it said simply play it really is yeah man so if you want to see a beautiful wonderful multifaceted woman haiku Helen calm and haiku Helen at gmail anyway um you know we have a minute left I’m gonna say goodbye you’re welcome to say goodbye it has been wonderful I hope you’ll consider coming on again and if there’s any sure there anyone is here you know
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we might want to share with our world it comes to media oh yeah you know I just think that you know looking at all of the ancient teachings like you were talking about Chinese medicine and you know all of these things there’s so much richness in all of this there’s old things that we can combine now with new teachings and see in a new way so I mean that’s the great thing about the Internet you know we people put it down and everybody’s on the internet all the time but you can look
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anything up and I’m gonna do it when you leave the show cuz we are leaving the show it has been wonderful haiku Helen I’m Jason Schwartz the Maui neutral zone that gamma Laura everyone we love you see you next week [Music]
