Summer Host Scott R Bushnell welcomes Jason Schwartz, Series Creator & Host— 8-5-2024
Summary & Transcript below
[00:00 → 06:32] Introduction, Personal Updates & Wildland Fire Restoration
- Hosts: Scott Bushnell and Jason Schwartz begin the show discussing current events and personal updates.
- Personal Health Update: Jason Schwartz mentions upcoming hip replacement surgery and shares anecdotes about rapid recovery experiences from friends and colleagues.
- Talent & Community: Scott praises local Maui talents such as Eric and Harry, highlighting the island’s creative environment.
- Viral Video Impact: Scott discusses a recent viral video produced with Janelle Valentine about wildfire issues, which garnered nearly 40,000 views and influenced legislative progress and national wildfire firefighter attention.
- Guest Introduction: Scott introduces Jeremiah Martin from Wildland Restorations, who is currently engaged in environmental cleanup near Los Alamos, New Mexico—site of historic plutonium contamination from the Manhattan Project era.
- Environmental Concerns: Discussion about the long-term health impacts of toxic waste exposure in Los Alamos, including cancer clusters among local residents and workers. The importance of transparency and factual reporting is emphasized.
[06:32 → 16:32] Media, Cognitive Bias, AI, and Political Commentary
- Media Influence: Scott and Jason discuss the power of media in shaping public opinion, highlighting cognitive biases such as cognitive dissonance, where people struggle to accept facts contradicting their beliefs.
- Importance of Research: They stress the need for individuals to be open-minded and willing to revise their views based on new evidence, whether about diet, politics, or social issues.
- Political Figures: Positive mentions of politicians Tulsi Gabbard and Maryann Williamson, with particular admiration for Gabbard’s straightforward communication style.
- Media Production Techniques: Scott shares technical insights into video production, emphasizing simplicity and adaptability.
- Role of AI: Mixed views on AI’s role—Scott uses AI for editing and writing assistance but warns about AI’s potential to homogenize information and replace critical thinking.
- Business Planning with AI: Discussion about leveraging AI to develop business plans supporting environmental projects with funding and scheduling considerations.
- Arts & Economy: Scott reflects on the historical connection between prosperous economies and flourishing arts, noting the surprising fact that the Olympics once awarded medals for poetry, painting, and music until the mid-1930s.
[16:32 → 25:14] The Arts in the Olympics and Maui’s Cultural Vision
- Olympic Arts Competitions: The video recounts how the Olympics awarded gold medals in arts categories (poetry, painting, sculpture, music) until approximately 1936, a fact largely forgotten today.
- Integration of Arts & Sports: The hosts express a desire to reintegrate arts into global cultural events, which would recognize the full spectrum of human talent beyond athletics.
- Maui as a Cultural Hub: Scott envisions Maui as a platform for showcasing global artists and musicians, combining local culture with international outreach.
- Historical Olympic Changes: Reference to Adolf Hitler’s influence on the 1936 Olympics, including alterations to the marathon route for political symbolism.
- Homelessness & Immigration in Hawaii: The discussion shifts to social issues:
- Hawaii had approximately 6,500 homeless people in 2018, with numbers likely increased.
- There are about 41,000 undocumented immigrants residing in Hawaii, living in housing and renting, which impacts rental markets and affordability.
- The hosts link high housing costs to this dynamic, exacerbated by FEMA-related displacement and rental market constraints.
- Housing Crisis Complexity: The problem is multifaceted, involving undocumented residents, federal aid effects, and local zoning challenges.
[25:14 → 37:15] Immigration, Social Services, and Local Accountability
- Undocumented Immigrants: The presence of undocumented immigrants is acknowledged as a significant factor in housing shortages and market inflation.
- Documentation and Rental Accountability: Discussion about the challenges undocumented people face in renting and how landlords may accept cash payments, complicating oversight.
- Diversity in Immigrant Populations: Immigrants hail from various regions including mainland U.S., Mexico, El Salvador, among others.
- Media’s Role: The hosts criticize media for not sufficiently analyzing or breaking down these complex social issues.
- Social Security Fraud Data: Hawaii reportedly has very few fraudulent Social Security claims related to employment (~15-20), suggesting screening effectiveness.
- State vs National Solutions: Emphasis on local, county-by-county enforcement of immigration and documentation laws, rather than relying solely on national frameworks.
- Enforcement Gap: Laws exist but enforcement is insufficient, creating ongoing issues with undocumented populations and resource allocation.
[37:15 → 46:52] Government, Voting Integrity & Political System Critique
- Historical Government Collapse: The hosts reflect on historical patterns where governments (e.g., Soviet Union, Rome, Greece) expanded excessively and collapsed.
- Voting Systems: France banned mail-in ballots 35 years ago due to concerns about voter identity verification. Scott advocates for Election Day as a national holiday with in-person voting to ensure accountability.
- Challenges of Remote Voting: Acknowledgement of logistical issues such as weather, absentee voters, and overseas citizens.
- Social Divisions & Media Spin: The conversation touches on divisive social issues such as abortion rights, noting that public debates are often exacerbated by media sensationalism.
- Forgiveness & Mercy: Jason expresses personal values of forgiveness and mercy, emphasizing the human side of political debates.
- State Rights vs Federal Rights Debate: The Supreme Court decision often labeled as “Roe v. Wade” is clarified as fundamentally about states’ rights rather than a federal ban on abortion.
- Media’s Role in Polarization: The hosts criticize mass media for amplifying conflict and divisiveness instead of promoting cooperation and understanding.
[46:52 → 55:14] Solutions, Native Hawaiian Issues, and Future Plans
- Housing Solutions: Scott offers to outline specific solutions to Maui’s housing crisis, including self-sustaining apartment complexes and community planning.
- Federal vs State Tensions: Discussion about Hawaiians’ desire for independence and local control contrasted with federal government influence.
- Native Hawaiian Autonomy: Recognition of Native Hawaiian aspirations for sovereignty, cultural respect, and financial equity.
- Concerns About Violence: Historical note about stockpiling weapons and threats to tourism dating back decades.
- Inclusion of Indigenous Voices: Upcoming plans to feature guests from the Navajo Nation, highlighting shared Indigenous concerns.
- Historical Trivia: Reference to a Congressional plan during Lincoln’s era to relocate African Americans to reservations, a fact largely unknown today.
- Integration of Arts & Culture: Plans to promote Maui as a center for diverse artistic and cultural expression through media and community events.
- Media Platforms: Promotion of local media channels such as MauiNeutralZone.com, Coach Scott Maui YouTube, and MauiArtsAndMusic.org as ongoing resources.
[55:14 → End] Closing Remarks & Upcoming Guests
- Upcoming Guests & Topics:
- Head of EPA overseeing local environmental issues.
- Tulsi Gabbard for political interviews.
- Bobby Kennedy commenting on Maui’s wildfire and recovery challenges.
- Navajo Nation representative Marjorie PSI discussing Indigenous issues.
- Media Presence: The hosts mention their availability on multiple platforms including FM radio, YouTube, and social media.
- Final Notes: Jason thanks Scott and the audience, reiterates appreciation for community support, and gives positive wishes for his surgery and recovery.
- Technical Details: Casual discussion about studio timing, camera setup, and jingle cues before closing the show.
Key Insights and Conclusions
- Wildfire awareness and restoration efforts are gaining traction, fueled by viral media and committed local activists.
- Maui faces a complex housing crisis, exacerbated by undocumented immigration, FEMA displacement effects, and real estate market pressures.
- Media literacy and critical thinking are essential to counteract misinformation, cognitive biases, and AI-driven homogenization of content.
- Historical Olympic inclusion of arts highlights the potential for a more holistic global celebration of human achievement beyond sports.
- Voting integrity and government accountability remain ongoing concerns, with calls for reforms like national Election Day holidays and in-person voting.
- Native Hawaiian sovereignty and cultural respect are central local issues intertwined with broader political and social dynamics.
- Collaborative community media on Maui aims to integrate arts, environment, and social issues to foster positive change and global connections.
Timestamped Transcript in Full
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[Music] good morning Mai good morning Maui it’s Scott Bushnell co-hosting with hosting with Jason Schwarz today we have a lot to talk about a lot of things have been going on so we’re here today in the studios of ali uh we are coming up on a very sad anniversary this two Thursday uh Lina fire and that’s the great one of the greatest tragedies we’ve had on the island and in uh known history of Our Generations so we’re going to be talking a little bit about that we are going to
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talk a little about you know the recession that we have been triggered into both buttons on channel one channel two there you are all right there now you have the guest hi I’m Jason Jason’s here I just wanted I I have surgery tomorrow on Wednesday Wednesday it’s like in andout Burger 6 to three maybe six to three and come out with a new hip and then recoup thank you for being what other parts are they putting in did you order anything more with that model no I wanted fries and I asked about Wireless
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or a rechargeable battery they told me good no they don’t do rechargeable because they keep getting better and better and this may be the one that will be there longer than uh I am oh cool I mean we all watch the $6 Million Man growing up we know that uh you know that’s got to be possible well I’ve heard so many people doing it you know I heard people say oh it took me six months seven months I had people tell me oh I was up in a couple of days and I was walking and I’m fine now and I’ve
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done both hips and and as soon as they can give you one take it and oh yeah I’ve had those kind of comments yeah I have a friend that uh works over at the mattress uh Sleep Number he got both his knees replaced and he was back running and Hiking within just a few days I mean he was just after it oh yeah well I’m I’m not ready to take on mountains yet but I know we’re going back to the gym getting in the water yeah and you know I want to be back on stage doing music I have ideas of different things and using
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studios here and out in this right beautiful Maui landscape well you’re very talented that way well thank you but there’s also lots of other Talent here when I see other talents I say there’s Eric there’s Eric and there’s Harry oh look at that and they have a story and I say well what’s the difference between what we’ve been doing here for all these years and that a story a story was civil beat Guy picked that you know it’s like what happens when we have a John Cruz’s wife and
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we’re doing things for environment and we do in music it’s a matter of choice in media which is you’re going to have these weeks I am very very proud proud and happy for you in the the way you’ve taken to this medium you had past experience but your subjects are having uh Janelle oh we are oh a little tiny update Janelle’s going to call in probably next week but the legislation because our video that we made from this went viral isn’t that great and went all over the country and
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representatives were called Representatives everything happened it moved through um Appropriations much quick quicker quickly than expected and maybe 40,000 people viewed close to 40,000 if you count everyone that it was shared to Shared to Shared to and it’s still up there Maui neutral zone.com plus finding you at coach Scott Maui YouTube right it’s there um it’s also on the national website for Wildland firefighters it’s it’s everywhere excellent yeah it blew up and then since
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our our supp good subject supported by the people that are on the shows to share them see that’s the best piece this was a subject that she wanted to deliver you helped pull it out from her really well thank you for that she knocks it out of the park well and you did a great job of pulling it and you know I I know cuz I’ve walked in the water with you Scott lwh house swim lessons.com Scott is helping me through this period you know with this thing with my leg but you have lots of opinions and we we got
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lots there are subjects that you’ve got on fire and on tap MH you know who is your guest you got guest SC I have Jeremiah Martin who’s Wildland Restorations uh part of the uh team that travels uh the west coast and basically anywhere and they help repair reparan areas places that have been damaged by either construction logging he’s on a project right now that called him away from this today which is outside of Los Alamos New Mexico where back in the 40s during the Manhattan Project they
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dropped like 800,000 tons of plutonium waste ouch ouch I I was going to say is it contained no they they the question is is that why they have the highest ridges and those unique formations maybe so well what really came to mind when Jeremiah called me because he was bidding this project and we talked a long time and he said Scott you know you were Downstream and down wind of that where you lived and you had cancer at a very young age and two of your neighbors had cancer odd cancers at a very young
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age two of my co-workers that were younger than me had canc cancer at a very young age so we’ve got a window of going wait a minute no one told anybody you know and the people that did this now have long passed away this this was a past generation and Los elos National ads doing their due diligence has gone after that they have not hidden anything when they en covered it they came out and said we’ve got situations here we don’t we don’t think it’s harming the public and they’re bringing it forward so
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there’s a lot to impact there in a future time when we get actual factual information well you know what I like when you said actual factal we are preceded by David Pacman who is a Pacifica feed I don’t know how the station’s relationship is but if we have subjects that are National subjects we will qualify to apply to be able to be syndicated so when you find subjects like that not only for you to be doing them but you and me and and yeah you just like you brought the the Notions about the toxic dumping
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of waste absolutely all and you brought it to my attention and you know we were couldn’t put it down we’re all shocked and and the fact that that’s how but then like I see the coverage I did eight or nine shows had John Cruz’s wife on here we had the Hawaiian on here I had this all the things they did through their own right public forums and no contact back from right right and you know so it’s the coverage in the media and someone that knows how to Market this media like you
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said you got it to an audience through Janelle who has an interest in getting something going on right so this is the power of what you do and the reach that you’re taking is something I’m very very happy and you’re you’re uh a great addition I feel like I’m a great addition to your team I think we just we work so comfortably back and forth here it just happens well it happens but you know notice I didn’t use the Donald Trump thing at all yet today because that’s aside from anything and
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everything else that I can move forward in a positive way I’m not I’m not going to discuss that you know I I I have a list of things I want to talk about um right a lot of those aren’t about facts those are about understanding how to do research understanding how cognitive behavioral change has influenced how the media delivers things if you have 10 friends that tell you the same story generally you believe it because you heard it from 10 different friends if you’re getting that information and
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those people get the information somewhere that they found it who’s controlling that information or those sound bites you know you don’t want to question your friends but you have to realize there’s a bit of cognitive dissonance cognitive dissonance is when you believe something so deeply in your heart that even though the facts are laid out there you go wow maybe I was wrong and at that moment when you can say maybe I was wrong about something that’s the moment you can introduce
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yourself to questioning your own reality if I eat this food this food and this food and I believe that I did the research and I thought it was right and I found out something different you have to have that ability to be vulnerable and go I really got this wrong and it’s the same with your diet it’s the same with understanding our political system it’s the same with going to the grocery store well that’s a subject like you say for a different day yeah but the heat of the political
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moment I’m not there and we both know it exists I’m parking it I’m in a healing mode yeah I I I you know what I can’t the the person that I absolutely adore in this whole political spectrum is our past representative telsey gabber I just listening to her just cut the crap just I love her she’s out do you like Maryann Williamson um she has her moments but Chelsea is just straight out I’d like to meet tulsy or maybe we’ll meet her on air I think we will meet her on here she
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blew up the other day so she her schedule just got after her debate results with uh the vi running for president uh against KLA Harris that blew up and her stuff is all over she is like top rated across all social media right now for her art her Comba or her her debate with com Harris was brilliant I mean well placed straight was it recently no it was 2016 2015 I’d love to get a link to that oh you can’t miss it it’s everywhere you’ll get it to me yeah I’ll get that to you good D you know I
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love being on this side of the seat as a guest you get a better picture of yourself I can see that you look I could see your face I’m seeing the side of my head all the time well you got to realize where your camera there’s my camera and there’s your camera yeah I wish my camera was kind of there well you can move your mic a little bit more but I want to look at you I we like talking oh yeah yeah we do and I you know I learned long ago that I would talk to the camera I’ve been talking and
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doing these shows for 30 years and when I am my own camera person that is the camera and I’ve learned to do you could do a medium shot we can do a shot of both of us you can take a piece of that shot and make it a solo shot all with the same thing so all the Techno stuff of the world has moved where I used to do it on SIMPLE now it gets it gets so complicated so I’ve decided and now keep it simple but you know what the amount of of stuff we have that I’ve seen from you and you’ve seen from me over these
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years in Maui and the people we have just an extreme if we link these things together we have so much to share with the world about a philosophy that’s beautiful here you know like we we have the freedom to unplug from thinking about National things oh yeah we have an hour and we can talk about anything and we can talk about the stuff that makes a difference to each one of us right and and you’ve been your subjects are good and I’m I’m back on my same track I still think that all the ingredients are here Y and this
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is the time for Mama to I want to say integrate all these different shows and people Eric and Harry donfeld and and Brad Starks and the guy that used to be here at this station doing moku moku show and getting it to Airlines and involving the hotels and supporting the people and creating a spotlight on environmental problems but also Solutions tapping into the national but tapping into the national and showing them what we’re doing on our beautiful island that we live live in this integrated Paradise we do that’s my
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that’s been my vision to see my flyer from 1994 oh yeah and my what I said then and to realize I’m still walking that same path that’s a good thing that it’s like that means this is all when I talk about wanting to get uh Willie Nelson and Chris kristopherson and Alice Cooper those are the words I was writing 30 years ago years and so funny because now it’s like the right thing at the right time bring you aboard you are such a dynamic I just want you to know the guy you’ve got sitting in here we we GNA
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have a have you asked for a day for having your own show yet oh gosh no Jason you want your own show well someday sure but I mean like yeah I’m going to come back in September Kelly King asked me she wanted to do an interview if you can have and you want to bring Tulsi or somebody we could do whatever I I’m open in any race that you bring someone on they have equal time on station so right if uh is Tulsi running no okay there you go and who’s it Kelly King so when I do that if Tom Cook wants
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to do an hour with right right right right right and but I mean I very happy to know and you showed me by what you did when you hit the right subject with the right guest you get views you get views because you know you you connect to either an or a National Organization that has people at the same and you need media coverage yeah just like I’m talking with there’s been no media coverage and we’ve been doing this for years right so what is that it’s the media as New Media style well we’ve got
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the we’ve got the internet now but You’ found a way through by people sharing with people sharing with people but that was a small window if people want to research things and that’s what we found out we did not know we got a new tool in the last 20 years we all have it on our phones now but we don’t know how to use this tool properly because there are organizations that control Google control all the search engines so you really have to Wade through that and understand if you get a the same
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sentence on five different places about one top IC you’re looking for that’s like a red flag it everybody’s sharing the exact same verbiage way a minute something’s not right here or when you um this was really weird and it was actually true I saw it isn’t that what AI is doing it’s creating this it this uh stuff that comes out all in the same way and they keep feeding to make it more of the same don’t have any more signatures for people right we’re in a very strange World AI is dangerously
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replacing the brain it’s it’s another it’s another scary tool I use it constantly I love it oh I I haven’t used it at all only thing I use it for is like I write I write a maybe four or five paragraphs about a subject I’m cut uh teaching at the jail or a subject that I’m teaching over for parents and children and then I have it scrub it a little bit to clean it up to make sure my thoughts but the input was from you yeah I put it all in where I see people using it as a tool to replace them
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thinking about it you know I’d like to plan doing six shows over the next year in all the hotels in Maui and I’d like the revenue stream to have 80% going to environmental projects and this will cost this much and this much how much time does it take and what kind of shows and that will spit out a business plan plan right and I I say that then the question is what do we do these plans are ahead of people that know when is the input to the advantage or disadvantage of people and I don’t know
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if that is as important to people as it should be historically historically let’s look at the Arts um music um p painting sculpture all of that all of the world’s throughout history great sculpture art painting uh poetry everything have been a residual of a very profitable economy a solid economy the Roman Empire when it was his Peak was making beautiful things the Egyptians were making beautiful things all of the great art and Beauty has come out of a very prosperous and solid economy something I did not know until last
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night and I double checked this do you realize in the Olympics from n up until 1936 I believe it was that in the Olympics you could get a gold medal for poetry art music and oh I forget the other one but all of those were gold medal subjects so the whole Olympic thing wasn’t just about physical it was about the Arts as and I I I read that and I researched it and I went this was true wow wow why did well yeah and they had a 26 member Olympic Committee that was for one was for like painting one
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was for sculpture one was for poetry it was like how did I not know this that’s really cool that brings in everyone not just our super athletes it brings in people with artistic ability the pet surprise and all those that kind of stuff and how do you do it with point system would be an amazing new thing to well it’s again it feeds right into your topic of young upcoming artists that have talent and that was addressed in the Olympics up until the 1930s imagine if there’s a pool that’s capturing
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capturing all these images and including them into the possibilities and now as possibilities are being generated through an AI system it feeds from A system that feeds on itself you’re really I don’t know it’s scary to me Scott but scary isn’t that it happens I think it’s fantastic that it happens yeah but I think that the the void it can leave in people’s experience that they may not pick up in any other way except chewing on the food yeah instead of ban getting something that’s already been
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regurg but if you start thinking about what was Greece and what was Rome like at the time the Olympics started they had such a focus on Art architecture it’s hard to imagine that they would cut out all the great philosophers and turn it only into a sports thing when it was wow right that’s huge so if you really think about Rome and the beginning and the parthona and the Greek Arts wow wow we just addressed the sports which is really cool it’s wonderful that we can come together for sports but that
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piece of the Olympics is what you’ve been talking about for as long as I’ve known you to bringing the Arts together could you imagine that at the Olympics to see young poets young artist and this outside of the mainstream from all countries bringing their poetry or bringing their their art I know little about this I am not wow it’s way over my head but it’s just the concept of it for people that that’s important how about this guy uh the he’s a tennis player no jokovic yeah yeah who won the gold medal in
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tennis right M yes and he is world renowned top champion of everything and this gold medal meant more to him he expressed yeah there you are isn’t a great example living in color yeah living a guy who realized man how really that that was where he felt like he really against everybody in the world in a nice way that’s a beautiful thing that really would really bring hopefully that’s why the word mama how many worlds we have mama in huh mama and papa y I’ve been dreaming this thing but I haven’t
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been just dreaming it you know I’ve been when I think of what we have here Scott what we have is something that is time has come the things that you’re talking about and being able to to be able to affect an outcome through this maybe people don’t maybe Jason you’ve been thinking too small maybe we need to affect the world Olympics maybe we need to look maybe that is the way to do it to to involve the Olympics the entire world we could but I’ll tell you Maui is not a bad place to be shooting it’s a
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good place to shoot from yeah so let’s start here if we can do a if we can do a video and a talk show that we did uh with Janelle Bush or jelle Valentine a few weeks ago and it goes all over the country and I get a call from the head of Texas Wildland firefighters praising it you know I’m like Hey we’re going somewhere we have a platform yes we do and that whole Olympic piece that I never knew that there were the Arts in the Olympics but when you think back and you think about ancient Greece and you
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think about ancient Rome how could it not be and the all-around man and allaround woman yeah all around with Arts and Music and poetry the the entire human being that something yeah up until the 30s right to uh yeah it was it was crazy have anything to do with Adolf Hitler maybe I they they changed he ordered things changed I think that was the end of it actually that German Olympics I I I would need to research that more you know he had a big effect he changed the distance of the marathon so so it would
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end in front of him instead of 23 mili it’s 23.2 miles so it would end in front of where he was sitting in the stadium much it’s a bit much uh he was a popular man at this time didn’t end up that way but it started that way so as you and I um we have been talking about the homeless on the island for since we started talking and I came across some facts the other day um some of these facts are from civil be and some from the state of Hawaii um right now in Hawaii as of 2018 they are listing us with about
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6500 homeless people and I know that has increased in the last few years you’re talking about all of Hawaii all of all of white I wouldn’t be surprised though if we’re at500 or 2,000 at least at least but the shocking number to me is and I thought about this because when I read that number I saw that there were almost almost zero if not a complete zero of undocumented immigrants on our homeless rasters so that means for the entire State we have according to um the uh Maui T Maui oh civil Beat Again civil beat
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41,000 undocumented immigrants on the island all of our islands and they are living somewhere they are paying rent somewhere they own somewhere so we have 41,000 people illegally living here how many of the homeless 6,500 versus 41,000 yeah holy macari that’s cutting into your uh people taking units yeah what does that demand do for our rent good boy the rents go up up up yeah I I you know I the open borders thing all of a sudden I was like I started looking at close 4,000 41,000 as of um this is January of 2024 according
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to civil does it break it into Islands no it does I don’t have that in front of me oh but let’s but obviously it breaks about the same as our population base so obviously aahoo who bigger they have more well it’ be interesting just to check out the numbers as they relate to uh what’s going on here because here on Maui we throw another 3,000 I don’t know how many that FEMA did right and they guaranteed higher numbers and escalated rents and scrambled an already existing Market exactly and then uh it it had
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people asking about short-term rental change and zoning and what be allowed and the real estate people the idea of a condotel condominium hotel and how the lending laws are changed and all that stuff goes in one big pot and how the local people don’t get as much business from the people that were now from wherever living in their Community exact so here we are got this giant mess and now we have it’s all Sol 1,000 people that are maybe are not paying taxes they’re taking local jobs well how do
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you get you can’t un how do you undo that I don’t know Jason you don’t unless you you need to elect people with an agenda that says let’s get those people either fast-tracked to citizenship or get them out of the country there’s only okay well so so now I’m seeing that and I’ll deal with that in a minute FastTrack the citizenship or get them out of a country is a second subject from those number of people if they weren’t there and we reintroduced people now have to figure out the prices have
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gone so up because of what FEMA has done and is currently doing that the local people are out in out of touch with what the rents are with or without that side subject that we’re going to deal with here in a second and I just don’t want to lose sight of that because that’s the housing piece yes I’ve heard always they always say we can’t build our yes we can build our way out of yes we can especially with alternative things that can be done I’m very tired of not hearing that talked
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about more and more open forums and the way elections go but let’s get back to what you said because we’re talking about immigration here he changed the immigration from housing so housing is a good subject if that’s still around when I come back or we can talk we could get into this deeply what you just said because that gets down to people say okay what’s the difference between TR Trump believes and what Harris believes and the different regimes and yeah so let’s I forgetting all that because
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whoever that be the the right thing will happen where you got to deal with something here we have a housing crisis that surely was spurred on by a FEMA but also spurred on by a huge inflow of UND documented people some of them may be homeless from other states they may be all kinds of things in there but however we look at that in that and in that search like you said MH people have to either then get documented appropriately right or removed from the mix but it doesn’t solve this housing problem
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that’s why I’m separ how do you how I know how difficult it is to rent here I went through that when we when Andrew and I left the family farm and all the documentation and paperwork that went into that how without documentation if you’re not here legally can you get through that do we need to make sure that the people that are renting to those folks are held accountable well let’s let’s stop there for a second so how can we do that some will be that they don’t have the documents and people believe cash is
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better than check and that’s but then there is also the fact that in those numbers that are reported 41,000 undocumented we realize oh well there’s people from Colorado there’s people from California there here’s from Mexico oh oh yeah there’s people from Salvador oh yeah look at that oh and they’re mixed in there but we are have media that’s where you say research right we don’t have media that take some sand in the sifter and they get things of this size and they see they’re a little different
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but to to go and sift them more it takes a little too much work so the story reads that yeah instead of breaking it down to what it is really and getting that’s how you untangle cords in an electric studio right you really have to go untangle it all I know that sounds weird to say no it doesn’t it supports what you said about research it also supports this anti- AI thing of we don’t get biod diversity when we diminish the microbiome we don’t get I’m bringing all these subjects together the world when
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you put it all together we have everything and we could be having everything right here in we could be leading the world have musicians from all over the world and artists from all over the world coming into our Spotlight and being shared through throughout the world and creating Solutions before you know I mean you know our government Jason still getting back to that that diversity yeah our country is based on individuals and when we bring together individuals with great passion I don’t have the passion to chase after the
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Wildfire situation the the the the but there are people that do and we want to hear from him there are people that are passionate about changing how the EPA works there are people that are passionate about deconstructing the national um education system they’re passionate this is the key to democracy every one of those people and that belong to every one of those organizations is a cog in how our country works but it is getting stepped on because when they’re trying to share their message just as you’ve been trying
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to share your message have been panted down by the high dollar input of media that gets money for making a show that is spectacular that just makes the people and their missions disappear and you’ve been fighting against that now for what 30 years yeah more it’s crazy but when you get a group of people who are passionate about this or passionate about homeless and people being homeless is so tragic but when you unpack that and go well we brought 20 million people into the country some people are saying and
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they’re not on the homeless roles so wait wait 20 million people now are renting and we’ve got our veterans on the streets isn’t there wasn’t there a group there still may be around called ice yeah and the whole whole thing about getting illegal I remember they were going after Mexican immigrants that were working in L and taking up jobs and that was like a sting operation going on well here it’s the same kind of probably identical kind of a thing on an island I would think it would be even more
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difficult to not stand out when everything is measured with work and number of people and number of beds and all the rest of that stuff so who knows I would think we could get to those numbers more clearly and on those Social Security civil be go to the Social Security website I see and you can look up each state and how many people have had fraudulent claims against their social security number which it’s been used to verify unemployment there are states that get some ReRe rounds of 20 to 30,000 a day
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it’s amazing I I am sorry that website’s not in front of me right now but I went and I dug through that Hawaii only has about 15 to 20 people that have questionable Social Security numbers that are rolling through our our employment so what does that say about our our uh numbers and how can we see how do those are those the criminals and mischievous ones that come from wherever it’s that interesting they couldn’t have gotten here by boat unless they so they had to be documented coming in it’s so
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very we are so screened here it’s like okay we should be able to see who and what and wherever has been here I look on my history I can look back a year and see if I went to website this one first or that one first so so the interesting thing is and so what do we do with that well we have many states that don’t require much of anything to get a driver’s license or an ID card and then all of a sudden you’ve got a driver’s license you can get on an airplane you’ve got a state ID you can
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get on an airplane so I don’t believe this is something that needs to be addressed nationally I think our local county by county state by state we just need to address who’s here if people are here and working hard and want to come to America God bless you that’s what this country is about but we have rules and we have laws how do we Implement that what you just said hi we’re doing a check every time we check you we’ll give you a stamp on the forehead oh yeah how how are we going to do that I Jason that’s the
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question we have we already the rule the rules and laws are there we just haven’t been enforcing them we um seem to the the problem and let’s go back to Greece and and Rome right okay back to Greece and Rome we’re back we’re back kind of on that Olympic theme here so once government starts feeding government feeds upon itself and gets bigger and bigger and bigger if you study World governments throughout history for the last you know 2500 years every government and every country that
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started out brilliantly say the Soviet Union they were freaking going gang busters they grew grew exponentially grew exponentially and then it became a point where they were almost eating themselves to stay alive and it collapsed Greece and Rome exactly the same well the same here why are we going to electronic machines to take replace people cuz the only way to keep things going is to minimize the workforce to make things efficient so we’re already seeing all the signposts why do we walk into the brick wall you know what I
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I actually Quantified this and checked it six different ways the other day do you realize that France it made it illegal for um mail-in ballots 35 years ago because there was no way they could make sure that people who were the right people were voting France figured that out 35 years ago I think the best thing we can do election day is a national holiday close everything that’s your day to go and vote I I I don’t and this is again this is the AI this is electronics that I think has been jinxing us we got
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lazy if we can go in and personally vote this is me I’m Scott I live here um my precincts over at the grade school and I go in and vote which I always do and I’m like wait that’s not so hard it’s part of what who we are I don’t like standing in those lines well if it’s National Day we could make it again I’m just sharing I don’t think that one is going to fly very well well until they what if there’s rain SLE hail and snow and what if people are all wherever they are and
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right they don’t want to have to go back onto American soil to vote and all the things there’s always been exceptions for that we’re going to blow up America wait till voting day we’ll get them then yeah anyway I there we’ve I what you’re basically talking about is how do we make things accountable I don’t know and in close elections I don’t know but when it comes to things like uh women’s rights I do know yeah women wom not women should be well and not fighting
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against each other well and if someone’s going to vote and they’re proud that they took away a woman’s right to choose with her own body that’s not possible well again I’m just saying to you right now yeah when I think about the div the issues and where the passions are and what’s happening with people here feeling like they’re against each other because they’re playing us we’re being played again as much as all that’s happening we can choose co-operation we’re on Maui I’m
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pledging that’s what we’re doing here right there’s another way there is wa let’s go please no that um go ahead I’m I’m just I’m the guest but I’m appreci having fun so let’s go back to that let’s go back to that Supreme Court decision okay yeah that you were just alluding to the mass media sold that as roie Wade the actual decision if you go and read it was about states rights versus Federal rights Federal cannot tell the states what to do internally that was
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the question but the mass media exploded it so that they could get a zillion re posts and everything else but the bottom line when you read that decision you read all what the Justice says it was about states rights the states need to have the right to run themselves now again I’m not denying it but the pain that goes through the media torturing people but also through the people that are in places where suddenly their freedom is uh dictated by someone it’s their convenience might be dictated
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but their freedom is not well and I’m just going back to the convenience piece for moment convenience life is not convenient no I I’m fine but uh I myself also have this thing inside which is very strong it’s called Uh forgiveness and mercy and I feel that religious dogma and that you’re you’re you’re you’re just that the media sold this no I’m just telling you what I feel that okay that the the fervor that people pronounce their version of the truth to impose it on someone else I don’t know
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if they’re imposing and when they change it in the law and here if a woman is pregnant in this state and suddenly she maybe tomorrow if you get pregnant tomorrow nine months out we’ll try to impose that law but when you leave people in the middle of a crisis and you make it less that has changed in any state well again I that’s why I’m not fighting these subjects but it’s all then it’s whatever media spin right I’m just saying the whole idea that we get divisive about that is making this this
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whole social media thing there’s much more spark when things Clash oh yeah than when they cooperate when I I have so many people that have delivered so much with so much goodness over these years of media and like you’re doing I’m so happy that you found a way to tap into a live thing now right it’s fun and like when if you have you know you seem to think that Tulsa’s GNA be I don’t know what she’s going to do next I don’t know but I I would like to see what she’s about
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because I I know people that work for her I guess interpersonally I don’t even try to understand what goes on in an office and that’s the but she had a great reputation going and suddenly um because Democrat became Republican and with Trump and yeah whatever sold soap you know there are you realize the Democratic party and the Republican party and the the they’re not part of the government those are independent corporations no I’m sure yeah so they they are just there as a marketing machine
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for candidates you realize that they are not beholden to the government with our Representatives though there are delegates elected that are supposed to do the will of the Republic of the states to put into office the most voted for candidate for president right now we are in a state that we have not seen since Richard Nixon left office and Gerald Ford who had never received one vote for president was put in as a president he’s the only President so far that has not ever received a vote in a pre primary
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for president until his second term so here we are again uh Joe Biden I feel so sorry for him I’ve watched my family members go through it he’s going through with his health right um and now how this country who is so brilliant cannot have a p a second primary for the democ ratic party for the Democrat Party so they can duly vote for who they want for president I can only put in that the clock is ticking yeah and uh that kind of a maneuver would take so much energy and effort does it at the yes it does
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especially when the rest of the media is picking the meat off the bones and every word they say they have a limited thing to do so um I don’t doubt that they’re going with what they got going on right it would be tough to to do a whole thing like you’re talking yeah I but it’s but we only have a few minutes left so the only reason that I only think about those things and passing is I don’t feel that it’s worth our energy on things that we can’t we need to do that right
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now I don’t want to have a thing and go talk at this place on I want talk at this other place earlier or I’m not talking that kind of stupid stuff I’m so tired and the arguments for both sides what a waste of all this media what kind of good stuff can we talk about Solutions want me to show you how to solve a housing problem on an island I’ll give you a time but you got to listen if you’re not listening I I can put together all that but you know I really maybe you’ll get the mayor get
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the mayor on the show yeah we could probably no but I’m the reason I’m bringing it on mayor abon I I’d love to have you sit here with Scott I’ll be recuperating but I would love to see you come on cuz I know that there are I’m yeah I don’t know the time is right now we’re one year since this right we’re one year yeah we’re going to see a lot of events happening on Thursday you know drill drill drill build build build exactly these these apartment complexes even the way they’re already going we
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have the blueprint we know the land we know how to be self- sustainable we can do these projects Scott but on the other side of what you were just talking about Jason for the last six year you and I have been reeling against the federal government telling us what to do is that horrible but here you go now you’re on the side of the federal government on the other case where it gave it to State’s rights so I’ve taken on this this comfortable coat of what the Hawaiians want they one they would love
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to be in an independent country the native Hawaiian they don’t want anyone to tell them what to do um but financially we are a blend we well we are a blend but and we can’t get rid of that so easily quickly no but the folks I talk to on the streets and in the jails think that they want to take care of their AA they don’t want interference from outside I don’t know how that will we’ve been talking about that for 30 years where they’re stockpiling guns and they have a whole
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arsenal of plans and that they looking to kill a few tourists and stop the trade I heard this 1998 so close up in personal that I was like shocked I heard it in the 80s well no it’s not new no but here we are so I’m interested in love and peace and find and I’m going to find a way to elevate the Hawaiian culture give them the love and respect and financial considerations that they’re talking about but that’s where I’m coming from the government’s giving something to you they’re taking
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something from you you got to realize those two things they don’t give you anything without wanting something back well our Native Americans have been learning that for the hard way for generations and generations well I’d love to be able to bring them on also uh we will and actually I have marjerie PSI from the Navajo tribe good who is going to be talking with me here live from the Navajo Nation excellent and the next few weeks um the pitfalls there’s one strange piece of trivia I learned
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being so married into the Navajo Nation uh through my partner I did not know that President Lincoln had a plan when he was being ass after he after the emancipation that they were going to move all the black people in the United States to reservations that actually is Congressional fact that the Democrats and the Republicans had gone okay we’ll give them their rights we’ll give them this we’ll give them their freedom and we’re going to put them on reservations because that worked for the
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Indians I had no idea until I researched that I went what what yeah W history that didn’t happen that was proposed wow could you imagine today if we had black reservations oh my Lord it reminds me of a man in the High Castle on Amazon oh great yeah that was so good well same kind of a thing oh it is we have the neutral zone and we have the western civilization and Easter Welly all these fantasies that are reality are oh my if anybody watches the Y files on YouTube you’ve got to watch yesterday’s episode
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it talks about the collapse of financial institutions and here I’m watching my ticker here that people have lost some 25 30% of their 401ks since this morning’s opening I remember losing that that was years ago 1987 yes what time is it we probably have n minutes left well I know that we want to tell them all about Maui neutral zone.com and YouTube coach Scott Maui Aloha swim lessons.com Aloha swim lessons.com Maui artsand music.org you know I’m going to start um I don’t know what we’re going to start but it’s time
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to do music and do some in the studio some of different clubs and I have the music ability of kids that was abused by nuns playing the piano well we’re going to have other musical artists on artists and um I mean there are many um visual artists and there are video artists and there are cultural artists and Hawaiian culture see all these pieces fit together in in a bigger idea that is all inclusive and right we’re going to be that example right we’ve been doing it for 30 I’ve been doing it for 30 years it’s a shock
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to me to see in print cuz I really looked at the flyer and I thought everything on this flyer I I totally am AG I have flyers from my years running for state representa and and many of them are still in play so I’m going to be doing an update now from now yeah cuz they’re in play this is I’ll bring I’ll bring my flyers in and my and my uh my stance that I had on stuff it’s still relevant today well you’ll see all the shows all these years you see all the pieces of the puzzle that laying out all
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this time so I’m looking forward to being on a show when I come back you are are doing a great job I’m too much of a talker n Jason you’re not a talker well I also see we’re running out of time I want to give you back the handle okay thank you Scott for having me on I really appri fun Jason and our prayers are with you for a fast recovery thank you we hope they work on the correct tip and don’t give you a new knee well you’ll be out there in the pool Aloha swim lessons make sure you get a
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indelible marker and right on the correct hip this hip not this hip xar this like a don’t don’t cut this one cut this one write it on your hip it’s the one when you step down on the gas there the one but yeah it’s an important they actually do that I went in had a toe surgery after putting a kave thorn all the way through my little toe oh made me m yeah and they doctor actually came in uh prep doctor came in and wrote this foot or not this they wrote something and I go what do you you
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have time you know where the button is over there I do it’s five it’s so we’ve got uh 2 minutes 29 is this great see like mine I have on my phone you’ve got the uh board over there that’s great with the jingle I see 2 minutes 20 up there I see five 1154 here so we’re a little bit off oh that’s good but yeah you’ve done a great job 88.5 FM the voice of Maui K simcast on akaku Maui Community media channel 55 YouTube humble true social we are everywhere we are everywhere yes so I am so thankful
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that um I am here with you thank you God for a beautiful and successful surgery and I will be back walking again with you Scott here imminently yeah and I’m going to hit do I hit this play button when we get down to one minute Jason when you get to like 13 seconds you hit you hit the jingle okay well I got about a minute oh that’s good um hopefully coming up I have uh open inroads to having the head of uh head of the EPA that’s been on island who’s been overseeing things I I the guy has been
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working seven days a week for over a year or coming up on a year the they they’ve been really working hard looking forward to uh hopefully bringing him in here I uh I have open roads with telsey gabber I have an ongoing communication with Bobby Bobby Kennedy uh Bobby Kennedy actually posted a Maui video the other day um How concerned he was of the Stalls and the pitfalls that we’re falling we’re running out of time but we’re coming to you soon I bet we got 51 seconds there 51 that’s a lot you said
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13 I’m supposed to click that button okay I 13 is when you click the the sound for the jingle okay yeah so I’m at 39 isn’t that fun isn’t this fun yeah so if blessings to you blessing to sing Jason and my number again 808 37279 you can find me at Loa Scott Cas Aloha Scott um on all social media forms uh we’ll talk about anything if you’ve got something you’re passionate about you be sure to give me a ring Aloha from Maui Jason blessings uhuh
