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Guest Shone Edel is a three plus decade homeopathic practitioner on Maui, Hawaii. Jason Schwartz discusses what homeopathy is an how it can powerfully and positively impact our health lives.
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The video features a detailed and engaging discussion between the host Jason and Shone Adel, a homeopathic practitioner with nearly three decades of experience on Maui. The conversation centers around the principles and applications of homeopathy, a holistic healing method based on the “law of similars,” where remedies are matched precisely to the individual’s symptoms. Shone explains how homeopathy differs from conventional Western medicine by offering highly specific treatments designed to restore balance and health. The dialogue touches on the recent environmental challenges Maui has faced, such as flooding and contaminated water, highlighting concerns about exposure to harmful bacteria and chemicals, and how homeopathy can support immunity and healing in such situations.
Shone also demonstrates a self-testing method (muscle testing) that allows individuals to gauge their body’s responses to various substances, empowering people to make informed health choices. The discussion further explores the obstacles homeopathy faces in mainstream medicine, including regulatory resistance and a lack of widespread acceptance, largely due to economic interests favoring pharmaceuticals. Shone emphasizes that homeopathy is cost-effective, safe, and often misunderstood or misused due to lack of proper knowledge.
Personal stories enrich the dialogue, including Shone’s background from Montreal, the influence of homeopathy in hospitals historically, and real-life cases where homeopathy provided significant healing benefits, even in acute situations. Shone also stresses the importance of listening to the body’s signals and trusting one’s vital force as a key to healing.
The conversation concludes with plans for future episodes to further educate listeners on homeopathy, self-testing techniques, and alternative approaches to managing health, including safely reducing dependence on prescription medications.
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- Highlights
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- [05:00] ? Explanation of homeopathy’s “law of similars” and how remedies match specific symptoms.
- [07:00] ? Discussion on Maui’s flooding, contaminated water, and associated health risks.
- [23:00] ? Demonstration of muscle testing as a self-assessment tool for health decisions.
- [40:00] ? Conversation about alternatives to antibiotics and chronic medication reliance.
- [44:00] ? Introduction of “Vogoff,” a homeopathic product addressing air pollution-related symptoms.
- [48:00] ? Critique of modern medical practices heavily influenced by pharmaceutical companies.
- [55:00] ? Emphasis on integrating homeopathy with community values and holistic well-being.
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- [05:20] ? Homeopathy’s individualized approach: Homeopathy operates on the principle that “like cures like,” meaning that remedies are tailored to the exact constellation of symptoms a person displays. This contrasts sharply with Western medicine’s broad-spectrum treatments and underscores the importance of personalized care in healing. The specificity enhances effectiveness by addressing the totality of symptoms rather than isolated issues.
- [07:15] ? Environmental impact on health and homeopathy’s role: The recent flooding on Maui introduced significant health hazards through contaminated water carrying bacteria and chemicals. Shone notes that conventional authorities may underreport these dangers, and many residents face ongoing exposure without adequate support. Homeopathy can offer a supportive role by strengthening the body’s defenses and addressing skin and internal infections caused by such environmental stressors.
- [23:30] ? Muscle testing as a biofeedback mechanism: Shone demonstrates how muscle testing can serve as an intuitive, subtle way to receive yes/no answers from the body about what substances or decisions are beneficial. This empowers individuals to engage actively with their health, fostering self-awareness and responsibility. The technique challenges the notion that all health decisions must be made solely by external experts and encourages a more participatory approach.
- [44:00] ? Addressing modern pollution with homeopathy: The product “Vogoff,” created by Shone, targets symptoms caused by volcanic smog (vog) and air pollution, which affect respiratory and systemic health. This illustrates homeopathy’s adaptability to contemporary environmental challenges, providing natural, non-toxic options for managing chronic exposure to pollutants that are often overlooked by mainstream medicine.
- [48:30] ? Critique of pharmaceutical dependency and medical practice: Shone highlights the pharmaceutical industry’s influence on healthcare, leading to polypharmacy (multiple medications) for chronic conditions such as hypertension and diabetes. Doctors may hesitate to reduce medications due to uncertainty about outcomes, yet patients often suffer side effects and dependency. Homeopathy offers a potential route to reduce medication reliance safely when guided by knowledgeable practitioners.
- [51:00] ? Proper use and understanding of homeopathy: Many people distrust or misinterpret homeopathy because they try remedies incorrectly or without guidance. Shone stresses that remedies must be chosen based on symptoms, taken correctly, and not antidoted unintentionally (e.g., by touching pellets with hands or mixing incompatible substances). Education is key to unlocking homeopathy’s true potential and ensuring effective outcomes.
- [52:30] ? Holistic healing requires respect and trust in the body: Healing is not just about physical treatments but about honoring the body’s vital force and signals. Shone shares that people must consistently listen and respond to their body’s messages for homeopathy to be effective. This relationship between practitioner, patient, and remedy forms the foundation for lasting health improvements, emphasizing self-trust and ongoing awareness.
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- Additional Context and Analysis
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The conversation situates homeopathy within a broader cultural and environmental context, particularly highlighting Maui’s unique challenges. Shone’s insights reveal how homeopathy is not merely an alternative medicine but a comprehensive system that interacts dynamically with the individual’s environment, lifestyle, and spiritual essence. The discussion about muscle testing as a method of self-empowerment is particularly significant as it democratizes health care, inviting listeners to reconnect with their innate wisdom rather than rely blindly on external authorities.
Furthermore, the interview critiques current healthcare and regulatory systems, suggesting that economic interests often hinder access to effective, low-cost natural therapies. This tension between mainstream medicine and homeopathy reflects larger societal debates about healthcare control, patient autonomy, and integrative approaches.
Shone’s personal narrative—from childhood curiosity to decades of practice, creation of homeopathic products, and engagement with community health—adds authenticity and depth to the discussion. The mention of historical homeopathic hospitals in Montreal and the persistence of homeopathy despite regulatory challenges underscores its resilience and relevance.
The video is a valuable resource for anyone interested in holistic health, environmental health impacts, and practical tools for self-care. It encourages viewers to explore homeopathy with an open mind, guided by knowledge and respect for their body’s innate healing capabilities.
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Well, it is Monday. It is April 6th. April 6th. That’s not January 6th. January 6 is etched in my brain, but that’s a different story of a different Trump. Anyway, but we’re not talking politics today because I have a beautiful and wonderful lady with me that How many years have I known you, Shone? >> 29. >> You’ve been here 29 years. Yeah, >> I was rarely do I go out on the town, but 29 years ago, Airielle said to me, I was with Airielle 29 years ago. I’m so thankful. I knew that.
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>> Still with her. Isn’t that amazing? >> Yes. Wonderful. >> I met met Shone at a place called the Lounge. The Lounge in Haiku. What do they call that? Haiku Community Center. >> Well, it was kind it’s the Haiku community. Like it’s the Haiku town. where the market is and uh Colleen and all that stuff now. Yeah. >> Yeah. But now, but this was long ago and there was this place at the end that but I guess it was less than 500 ft from houses and they were impacted. They
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couldn’t have music late at night because everyone was complaining and that didn’t last long. But this guy that I know is in 29 years ago, that was Nick Lan. He was Nikil Ananda then, too. He’s the same guy that many of you probably know. He ran for politics all these years, but so did I for a little while. But there we went to this the lounge. The lounge. And it was I don’t even remember anything except there were two ladies in there. There was nobody there. I was like, they really could have used some
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business. So, we sat there and we talked. I And you had just come to the aisle and I said, >> I had just come to the island. >> Smart, intelligent, beautiful woman on Maui that just walked in. I said, I’m with Airielle, but this is a good one. I’m going to be able to let my friends know this. Wouldn’t you know, years later, one of the people was my friend, not a close friend, but someone I knew and loved and respected, uh, Freyam. Hidel, you’ll tell me. >> He says A-del.
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>> Adel. >> Yeah. >> Oh, there you go. Froyam. >> Adel. >> If you were here years ago, you knew about a cook. You heard Fre. Is that Frey? Destroy-em. He made those awesome cookies. Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, Shawn married Froyam. Talk about having two incredible people together for a lot of years and in the last couple of years Froyam passed away. >> Yeah. >> And suddenly it’s almost like you were in his shadow in that he was such a big presence and you in Hana you know you
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say realtor Frey you have a fruit guy that’s Froyam. You want to do this that’s Froyam. He’s involved in polit. Yeah, he’s involved. Beautiful man, you know, and his brother uh >> Charlie. >> Yeah. Char, everyone called him Charlie Butterfly. But Charlie Rosen was out there for years living next to Chris Kristofferson with his wife. All kind of stories. He died before, but now the show. So, >> and then Chris died after Froyam died. >> Yeah. They would never >> not long after. Yeah. Yeah. We were
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close neighbors. Yeah. >> See that? This is Shone. Now, if you don’t know Shawn Adel, do you say Adel? What do you say? >> Yes, I do. I do. Adal. Yes. >> See, you got to learn. We’re We’re Americans. We don’t say stuff, right? I mean, like that’s always interesting. Here are those Americans. Talcin word France say. >> Well, I’m Canadian, you know that. >> Oh, you are? >> I am. >> Oh, a >> a >> So a fit. >> Oh, I never thought of it like that.
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Frey always thought of it as Adidal Vice. >> Oh, that’s good. But when you just said Canada, I said, “Hey.” >> Okay, that’s easy. That’s a good one. >> So, if I So, that’s who this is. This is Shone Adel. Shawn is I if I you know, I don’t want to identify, but I would say a homeopathic practitioner. >> Practitioner. That’s the legal way of saying I’m someone that knows a lot >> about you >> about you and I through uh I guess through careful questions cuz
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you probably observe and you ask those key questions that someone opens up and tells you the little stuff cuz homeopathy does do you out there know what homeop I’m going to start for all of you that may or may First, homeopathy means >> it’s a law of similars. >> A law of similars. >> Yeah, that’s one of the definitions of it. It’s the law of similar color there. What does that mean? >> Well, so you try to match you’re you’re looking to match the remedy to the to
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the symptoms. So, if you have two children that are both sick and they have colds, one may be hot, lying in bed, throws the covers off, red face, and all sweaty. The other one could be in bed, shivering, all covered up. There’s specific remedies that match the symptoms of each one of those symptoms. Whereas western medicine will just give you a broad thing that could that could take possibly care of everything but maybe won’t. So it’s very specific. It takes the totality of symptoms of the person and
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matches the remedy to the symptoms. >> Wow. >> Yeah. So, >> and so if you take the the the symptoms as a negative and you take the remedy as a ma as a mirror, then you’ve got these two things coming together that will cause a positive, which is health cure, >> balance, right? Balance. So that’s so that’s really interesting. I be asked, for example, how about someone that’s this week, April 11, 75 years old? No. >> Oh, you have the same birthday as one of
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my best girlfriends. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Oh, there we go. >> That’s good. >> That is good. >> That’s good. >> And Airielle’s birthday is April 8th, my brother’s birthday, too. >> Wow. >> Yeah. But anyway, I brought that up for some reason. >> Something about something that just happened to me. >> Something that just happened to me, >> right? And I think how am I going to solve this issue? This we just had a mud mud. We had more water
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than we should. We had a what they call a conal low. And those of you on Maui know that we were inundated with water and then it stopped for a couple of days. Then it came again and it wre havoc to a lot of areas. And one of the things that happened is water flowed from as high up as you get 10,000 ft down the sea level and it took the route of least resistance and that included a lot of houses, people >> animals >> animals. It’s been a monster. People’s lands have been >> decimated.
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And it’s not just quick over, you know, with all that’s going on federally with FEMA and here we have MIMA and Schmeima and insurance companies all these years that people fight to get the money that they need to repair. They’ve been paying all these years. But wait, wait, you didn’t sign that paper on the third day after the second day and we we didn’t receive it. because we didn’t receive it. Anyway, stories like that or even without all those stories, there’s not enough help. So, if any of you out there
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have excess, even if you don’t think you have excess, take a look. That’s called excess. You have enough to be able to give and help. And if you don’t, why not? There’s so much that you could do. And one is even to encourage people and try to be helpful, please. But we have another one coming this week. It looked when I looked at the thing, it shows Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. What’s happening now? >> I hope I hope it’s not because I moved from Han and I brought all the rain with
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me. >> I hope it’s not that also. >> I don’t think so. But it it’s >> But that water >> was amazing. >> When when I look at my skin, it’s like, what is that? And I someone said, “Oh, that’s keratossis be.” It’s dry skin. Oh, that’s so brilliant. >> No, it’s from the water. The water is contaminated right now. >> Give me more information that you know. Can you? >> Well, um I know that they’re going to this we we will not be told that the
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water is contaminated from from the county, let’s say. >> Yeah. I mean, they’re not, you know, yes, they have ways of of of um looking at the water and determining what’s in it, but they they that I don’t think their testing factors in for dead animals and all the other things that got swept into that water. Well, you know the guy that works with me on the website, Jim Carrey, he was in the hospital for five days intravenous every four hours and now he’s out and still What was that? Because one was
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called sudamonus and another one not the one they heard in the news. So there are a lot of things in the water. >> There’s just a lot of bacteria. >> Be very careful. I’m not sure exactly what to do. They kind of kind of scoff it off. Oh, it’s nothing. That’s not nothing. And I’m going to do my best when I get it. Getting an appointment with a skin doctor is like pulling teeth from a rhinoceros running at full speed in a snowstorm. They don’t have rhinoceros snowstorm. So, see, you can’t
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>> That’s a good analogy. >> Well, anyway, um, >> so you just have to be careful with the water. I personally will not use it right now. I will not bathe in it because I don’t trust it. >> No. >> And I’m, you know, I I just know that there’s stuff in there that we don’t want anything. You know, you don’t And you know, they talk about brown water. This, you don’t even have to have brown water. You can just There’s still a lot of chemicals in in the water right now.
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If you can smell how much chlorine there is in it. >> So, >> are you aware of that all you guys out there? If not, the being aware is your first step. >> Just be careful. And then if you use it, you’re going to have to find a way of what do you do for if someone comes and look I have no choice. I have to use this water miss homeopathy. What are you going to do for me? How are you going to help me? I have to use this stuff. What do I do? >> You mean if they have to use the tap
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water? >> So here I’m come to you my homeopath homeopathic practitioner because I heard that you can really help me. Something’s going on with me and I but no. So I come to you and I say look I have to use this water and you’ll tell well see it has chlorine and personally I don’t bathe in it this but I say thank you but hey I have to wash them so what do you want me to do and you say >> I give you something that’s going to that’s going to keep you from having the
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symptoms that the water can cause your body >> and even in that example when you sit with someone it’s like what’s going on well it’s here does it itch yes no okay let’s see the so you identify like a doctor. >> Of course. Yeah. I have to have you physically. >> Well, probably I take more time than a doctor would probably take. Okay. >> And I look at the person when I talk to them >> as opposed to being in an office where a doctor’s looking at a screen a lot of
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times. >> So, yeah. So, very compare you. I think it’s a very different experience. >> You are you um I imagine you’re not are you covered by insurance certain kinds of plans? >> No. >> No. Okay. Luckily, luckily for me, the government doesn’t want to acknowledge homeopathy, which is a good thing and a bad thing. >> So, it, you know, I mean, the AMA is very much against homeopathy, and they’ve they’ve gone into a lot of stores like Whole Foods, for example,
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and they’ve wanted them to remove homeopathy from their stores. They went into all the drugstores and they took all the homeopathic eye drops out. They’ve taken remedies that they feel are I don’t know what what they’re thinking. >> So what criteria? >> I don’t know. >> Have you had any kind of input from the Kennedy group after they took over? >> I don’t know. But nothing unique. >> I don’t No, I don’t know that. >> But I do believe I just I just believe
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that they’re just doing everything they can to squash homeopathy. They don’t want it around. They know the efficacy of the remedies and and and and and the the cost isn’t anywhere near anything. >> For those of you out there, some of you know what efficacy means. They know what >> that that the remedies work. >> They know that the remedies work >> and they are >> afraid >> thinking they want to logically to them restricted. >> Yeah. because they don’t give you
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reasons why. >> Well, because there’s no money in it for them. Homeopathy isn’t expensive. You know, it’s when we get into who is influencing the choices that come before us, the people, companies that say, “Look, look, if there’s too much of this on the market, our cash flow stream won’t happen.” Well, we wanted to p to fund public access, but public access puts information out there that may not be the company line. And oh, that’s like us. See, that’s what we are. We’re the
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neutral zone. We’re anything but neutral. But you’ll hear things like we’re hearing here now. if we were against some subjects. I’ve actually had shows that were pulled in the past when it was about 911. I had a pilot on who was in Pakistan when I interviewed him and uh he was showing that there was no way that these uh guys that had the planes even knew or could even fly these planes cuz this is how they work. Blah blah blah blah. And they have tried to and they have. Anyway, that show was pulled. I had
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another guy get on here talking about something and again what he said against COVID pulled. So public access means there’s still someone listening but you could still say your peace but we haven’t really been on the radar >> because we’re pipsqueak. >> Yeah. But we’re here in Maui and we only want a voice and when we are doing good and we’re out there we are attracting an audience all of you >> all over the world and we want you to join us become part of us remember all
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that stuff you see all these web addresses unless you’re watching aaku where we don’t have it on the screen but dreamawi.com mauyneutralzone.com if you go there you’ll be able to see starting tomorrow this show with a full transcript Albert Einstein. I only said that so when you’ll see the search engines, you’ll see that this shows up and says Albert Einstein because I said it and that goes into this big search engine. So, did Jason interview Joe Suki? Oh, yeah. Look, what about affordable housing? Did someone
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talk about that? That’s what this search engine does. So, every show we’re accumulating data. We have so much data. No kidding. We have a half a terabyte something that can’t that sounds crazy. But 5,000 or 8,000 pages of transcripts and summaries go on this website. Why? Because I want to provide a different kind of service. Think of it as >> the last 30 years. You want to see good people and you look and you’ll ask something. You’ll see on my show you’d say homeopathy.
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Shone Adel. Wait, Edel, Adel, you’ll see all that stuff in the search engine because that’s what we did it for, to make this data have value and be usable in the in this time of AI. See, I I’m not afraid of AI because Airielle is spelled AI. And so I’ve been into AI for 30 years and I know, see, I gotta laugh. You never heard that one before, I’m sure. I love it. >> But it’s true. >> So AI doesn’t scare me. Not only that, it’s how you use it. >> And it’s always how you use it. The
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technologies that can destroy are the ones that can also save and heal. And so that’s not all for this show, but I’m really excited because when I heard the word homeopathy, I remember all these years when I I still don’t really know what’s up, but the bigger the number, the smaller the amount of it in the formula that you’re getting. So if you get 5x and you see 35x, you’re thinking, “Oh, 35x is stronger.” Wait, wait. And I’ve learned, tell me as I’m wrong, the
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ones that are higher are diluted get more diluted into spaces that other bigger concentrations can’t easily get. Is that right? >> Not exactly. Oh, >> okay. >> So, you know, when you when you take a homeopathic remedy, the the you know, the the potency that your body’s going to require is is attacking different levels of healing in your body. But when you have that remedy in your inside you it’s like looking you’re just like cruising searching your body looking
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what can I do here you know so it’s always looking so it doesn’t matter because it it doesn’t matter actually the potencies become diluted as they get stronger as they get higher but it doesn’t matter because whatever vibration your body is going to connect with is what’s going to work for you >> I see >> because we’re all spiritual ual beings. We’re 100% spiritual. There’s nothing physical about us other than we’re living in physical bodies and we have to
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deal with them. But >> how did you come to that conclusion? >> How did I come? >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. That that was a big that’s okay. But >> well, I just I don’t know, you know. I I can only >> you have lived and you have had experiences that bring you to a point where you understand in your beingness. >> I’m just asking only because we don’t know who’s listening. But that would be a good question they’d ask you. In your experience of life and your experiences,
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you have felt you’re able to to see and experience that your body is not who you are. >> Yeah. Well, most Yeah. Because most people don’t don’t realize how their body’s functioning. And there’s so many things that are going on in our brains that we have no clue about, let alone our bodies. Our brains are very busy. And you know, there’s a lot that we can do to help ourselves in in many many ways. But homeopathically, there’s always a pathway to healing with homeopathy because sometimes like I’ll
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hold a box of remedies and each each each box has like a hundred vials in it. And I’ll say everybody needs all of these remedies all the time because we’ve been exposed to so many things in our life in our lifetimes that we don’t even know. And that’s why sometimes a weird remedy can come up. It doesn’t make sense, but it’ll fix it. It’s just magical. >> Now, how do you do you have a way of testing it? >> I do. >> I do. >> All right. So, you see that that that is
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uh something if people would understand homeopathy and not think of as something far away, >> it’s something very available. >> It is >> the do you teach people about that? Hey, >> I like to teach I like to teach people how to test themselves. So once they have the understanding of how their body works and how their body is going to react to a substance, whether it’s food or homeopathy, their body’s having a reaction. If they don’t realize the kind of reaction their body is having, then
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they can’t help themselves and be clued in. You know, if you pick if you if you know how to test yourself and you ask yourself, oh, should I eat this? And you get no, then then you have to make the decision. Even though you may want it, are you still gonna eat it even though your body told you not a good idea? So it’s >> so that self- testing. Is it something we should do here? We’re not really need to do it here. >> Well, I can teach you how to do it >> right here. You mean these guys?
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>> I could teach >> even if they can’t see you guys. Are you blind? No, you’re on radio. Okay. >> Yeah, you can’t see. We can’t do it that way. >> No, but you can do it. >> I can test I can teach anybody how to test with this method and it’s it’s really really amazing. So, want to give me an example or no? >> Sure. >> Okay. We are going to get an example of this. By the way, we are at K Aku 88.5 FM, the voice of Maui, Simocast on
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Akaku, Maui Community Media, Maui Stream on your phone app, and channel 55 on the I call it TV, they call it media. >> Oh, media. >> Media. But um but you can find and the best way to watch our shows is mauianneutralzone.com. It’s all up on YouTube and you can go there. But then you but if you go to Maui Neutral Zone, you’re going to be able to look it up and this show will be right there at the top next cuz it’s the newest show. So hit me with an example. >> What kind of an example would you like?
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>> You just saying that you can teach me how to test. >> I can. >> So let’s do Stand up. >> Okay, you guys. I’m going to try to stay in camera. Let’s see how I do. Okay, >> stand up and take off your Stand up and take off your glasses. >> Take off my glasses. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> What’s next? >> Just close your eyes. >> Can you hear me? You probably still hear me. >> Yeah. >> Can’t see my head. Close my eyes.
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>> Okay. Close your eyes. And now just say to yourself, just say to yourself, ask your body to show you a yes. That’s all you want to know. Uh, say, “Body, show me a yes.” >> Body, show me a yes. >> Okay. >> Where’s your body going? >> It’s vibrating forward that way and back. >> Okay. Good. So, that that’s your yes. Then going forward is your yes. Now, ask for a no. >> Oh, you went right back. >> Yeah, that was interesting, wasn’t it?
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>> Yeah. So, that’s it. That’s your yes. Now, everybody’s different. Some people’s yeses can be forward. Some people can be back. Everybody’s different. And sometimes I don’t even >> hold the object. >> Yeah. So now let’s say I want to test this. Okay. So you can just hold this and you can just say is this is this is this is this something that is this good? Is this good for me? Is this good for me? >> Is this good for me? >> See it was very subtle.
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>> It’s always subtle. And that’s the thing >> right for >> Exactly. So the thing is is that what people really don’t understand when I sometimes when they’re first taught this is they’re looking it’s like I’ll give this example. It’s like when people think God’s going to speak to them. They think it’s going to sound like hi I’m God and I’m telling you this. It’s never going to be like that. Okay. >> Isn’t that a great That is a great thing
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to say. Right. Okay. And so >> doesn’t have a megaphone. >> Exactly. And so we’re going >> Yeah. He’s just moving you. He’s just moving you all the time. And so when you pick up a substance and you say, “Is this the right thing for me?” And you get an answer. But then let’s say let’s say you’re a food addict and you’re you’re trying to get rid of sugar in your life >> and you pick up something that’s full of sugar knowing that it’s full of sugar
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and you just want to see what your body’s going to react to. And I’ll just say in parenthesis, no one, no one can test strong on sugar. Nobody. I don’t care if it’s organic. I don’t care what it is. Nobody can test. I’ve tested muscle tested hundreds and hundreds of people. Nobody can test strong on sugar. And it’s amaz it’s amazing. So if you go and test something that you know really you’re hoping it’s going to be a good result, but you deep down in your heart
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you know it’s not good. And then you get that no. Okay. And then you have to make a decision. Do I respect my answer? >> Yeah. >> Or do I >> like all the decision >> like everything in life. Exactly. >> If we had made >> But this is really in your face because I have a I have a friend and it’s like I and I said this to him. I said, you know, if I’m going to teach you how to do this, then are you going to listen when you get a no even when you want to
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eat it? That becomes a moral moral thing. Now, that’s a really that is the big question >> because then you’re giving that to your to yourself really. You’re not you’re you’re you know, you’re telling yourself, well, I want to honor my vital force because it’s smarter than me. And then it’s giving you an answer and you’re saying, well, I really don’t like that, so I’m not going to do it. And that’s why that’s why I remember years ago I read an article by Carolyn
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Mace. I don’t know if you know who she was. >> MSS. >> Yeah. and she was doing um she was doing um a talk in England and she was talking pe to people about smoking and um this woman came up to her after and she said to her, “Oh, you know,” she said, “I’ve listened to everything you’ve said and I really think that now I understand and I think I’ll be able to quit smoking right now.” And like Carolyn looked at her and said to her, you know, you’ve been
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telling your vital force all these years like that you don’t want to listen to them. You can’t expect that it’s just going to turn around and trust you now because you haven’t listened to it all this time. So, it’s the same thing with us with everybody. If you’re not going to listen to your answers and respect them, then they may not keep coming. >> Wow. So, so >> now when you know how to test when you know how to test yourself like that, that way I just did, you can test
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anything. You can go into a store. You can pick up and oh, I want to Oh, maybe I want to try this new blah blah blah. Pick it up. Or a piece of fruit. Is this good for me? You get the answer. You put it down. >> I don’t have to get rid of my metal, my glasses, my this. What’s the No. Okay. >> No. cuz you know I know the muscle testing often times well people talk about having no metallic and different >> well there’s a lot well of course there’s a lot of different facets to
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>> but yours seems not only seams I just did it >> and I saw I could feel a subtle >> you saw it >> you’re watching cuz >> I can Yeah because I I I show people how to do it >> but I felt it. Yeah, >> I felt it. And it’s you’re always going to feel it. And it it becomes so subtle that that it’s almost like like it becomes almost like your body is moving so subtly. >> Do I want to go talk to this person? Yes. No. >> Yeah. Exactly. Do I want to be friends
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with this person? Is this a good person for me to have in my life? Things like that. And this is this is one of the things that I wish I could do. and that is teach kids how to how to do how to do this because kids have problems with food. They’re you know they don’t know what’s good for them and and they don’t know what friends are even good for them. Like you know you have a friend that you’ve got a kid that’s being bullied all the time. Why would they want to be friends with that kid? But
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they keep going back. So there’s things that there’s just it just gives a person confidence to trust themselves and know that the answers that they’re getting are real. And that’s why when you muscle test this way or people muscle test this way or they muscle test this way, you can still influ even a pendulum you can influence. But you can’t when you ask a question to your body, you you’ll see the more you do it, you’ll realize you can’t make your body go back when it
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wants to go forward. You just can’t. >> Wow. See, that’s amazing cuz what you said like about pendulums. For some reason, I’m able to control a pendulum. You can control it. You don’t want to You don’t want to control it. You don’t want to control it. And that’s the problem. You can if if you want the answer, you can project and then you can get the answer you want because you’re putting that energy out. >> Yeah. >> So, you don’t want to be doing that.
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>> Isn’t that an extraordinary thing to just hear? >> Well, it’s pretty cool. Yeah, >> it is very cool and it’s very very useful and it it it just it works. >> How did you learn that? That’s beautiful thing. >> You know, when I first started doing homeopathy, I I was taught different ways of testing and I studied I studied applied kinesiology for years and we used to do all these crazy things, you know, mudras and putting your hands in different places and all of that. And
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then when I first came here and I first started testing people and I remember I would I would do certain ways of testing and then I don’t know it’s just like one day I guess God watched me and and thought you’re really struggling with that when I can just go make it easier aren’t you? I think that’s I don’t even know that’s all it’s just like the feeling that I had like all of a sudden things just changed. I started doing things in a different way and it was like where did that come from
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and then I just realized that it was just like a a quick download that just hit me. So I got Yeah. >> Well that we can go back to uh we’re not really these people. We’re the spiritual beings controlling these flesh bodies. That’s a great conversation. >> Yeah. >> Different. So in working with people over these years, so you just basically shared you’ve been studying homeopathy and from way back when you were a small child because 29 years is a lot of years. So you were a
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small child. >> A baby. >> A baby. >> Well, you know, when I was a kid, all I never really had I never I don’t I was the oldest of three kids, but I don’t I don’t really remember having toys. I had one doll, but I really remember having a book that I used to walk around with all the time. And I I couldn’t read. I was like really small and this was like a big hard coverver book. The Lost Continent >> really >> was that book. Yeah. >> James Leeward or something.
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>> I don’t remember. But I know like there’s drawings in there and there were all these different things that I was really drawn to as a kid. I used to carry that book around with me. >> Wow. And when I when I decided that I when it turned out that I was going to move to Maui, >> my parents weren’t happy about it. >> And when I came here, one of the first things that happened was I went to a meditation up in Kula and I was and it was about Lumeriia. And I remember the
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next day I called my mother and I said to her, “I know you’re mad at me because I’m here, but you you were here before me and that’s why I’m here now.” So that’s why I had that book all those years. And I had given the book back to her when I left m when I moved here and she sent the book back to me. >> Wow. >> She lived to 100. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> That’s great. So she’s not with us anymore. >> Oh no. But she lived to 100.
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>> So what you were from New York also? >> Montreal, Canada. >> Montre Oh yeah, you mentioned >> a >> a >> Montreal. I was in Montreal. Um, I think the only time I remember was 1967 >> for the fair. >> I remember going up on this unusual thing where we were inside sort of a rectangular stadium. >> You came for the You came for the fair for the Montreal for the expo. >> Yeah, >> that was a memorable >> Oh, yeah. That was incredible. That was
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like an incredible thing for our city alto together. I mean, they had to build highways and do all kinds of things. And they built everything out on this island that was called St. Helen’s Island. And a lot of the things are still actually there. Some of the pavilions are still there. They’ve been used for other things. >> Isn’t that nice? That’s a beautiful thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I I was at the New York World’s Fair in 1964. >> Uhhuh. And the thing that’s kind of
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stayed, of course, is the New York monument with those two tall towers and the Globe. But I remember as a kid, I was just a little guy, 13 years old. >> Well, I think the I think the the American pavilion may have been a globe also at the at the World’s Fair in Montreal. >> Yeah, >> if I recall, there was one Yeah, I think it was the American pavilion. Les, do you see is Canada different laws-wise for homeopathy? >> It’s a little friendlier. It’s a little friendlier, but for example, I mean, you
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know, because there’s not much regulation, they don’t there’s no regulations, they don’t really want to know about you, you know, they kind of leave you alone. So, you know, but I mean, places like California, for example, things are pretty strict over there. Are there colleges that teach it? How do you how do you become a >> of course there’s schools all over the country in Canada all over the world there schools >> homeopathy been doing obviously it’s been >> well homeopathy homeopathy has been
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around for over 250 years and actually in Montreal one of the last hospitals it was still there was the Queen Elizabeth Hospital was until the 50s was a homeopathic hospital. >> What was that? >> Montreal. >> Wow. Yeah. >> Wow. >> Yeah. And there’s hospital, you know, there’s all these hospitals, but >> so they would do the same as you. >> Yeah. >> They look at >> Yeah. >> you and they >> Well, they they probably were more
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classical than I was trained classicalally. But many years ago, I had a a lady from California who came to see me in Hana. And at the time, she told me she had a daughter that was a drug addict and she was trying to get her into rehab. And then she got her into rehab. And then she met a guy in rehab and they got on a motorcycle and they had a very bad car, a very bad accident. And then she called me and she told me her daughter was in the hospital and what could I do to help her? And I remember thinking to myself,
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there’s no way one remedy is going to fix this, you know. And I just sent her a lot of different things because she had a lot of issues, the daughter. And the mother calls me up one day and says to me, you know, she says, “They don’t know what I’m doing.” They didn’t know what she was doing. And I made it in such a way that she could quietly do it without getting caught, so to speak. And she says, “They came in and they say to me, well, we really don’t understand how
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your daughter is just healing so wonderfully. Like, it must be because she’s so young and they the mother never said anything, but she knew that that was the difference.” >> Wow. In in an acute situation, homeopathy is really like if you can get something into you like right away, you can like pretty much knock it out. >> Wow. >> Yeah. It’s pretty powerful stuff. >> So, >> I’ll give you something. >> I’m curious. I’m I keep going like this.
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This is very strange. >> Yeah, I know. >> And I’m not one to, you know, normally get sick. >> Yeah. But there’s a lot of it’s because there’s bacteria and your skin is your biggest organ in your body and it’s a filter and sometimes it just can’t filter out everything because there’s a lot coming at it. >> So if anyone you do you have um easy way to get to you have a website? >> I do. Maui homeopathy. Now I’m going to spell it even though
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you on seeing it on TV on the net you can see it but m a u y >> h o m e o p a t h y >> home >> homeopathy >> oathy >> right homeopathy >> homeopathy >> see this will teach you how to pronounce Hawaiian too >> you that was a side benefit But we just thought we’d include that. >> So you have patients. How do you find your patients or they find you? >> They find me. I have patients all over the planet pretty much. I’ve >> Do you mind I put your your
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email address. Okay. Up there. >> Sure. Sure. >> Phone number you want or >> No problem. Yeah. >> Okay. So we’re going to put that on. If you’re watching and you’re on the radio and if you’re watching, go to mauneutralzone.com tomorrow. And tomorrow is just one day away and I’ll have all that stuff up there because that’s that’s how people like to watch our shows. Yeah. I’m really glad you’re here. If you were here live, I’d say, “Hey, call
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808733435.” But >> that’s our call-in line. But since the last storm, >> we have been uh what I say knocked out as so many people have been, >> you know, on their back, they’re on their heels. So right now, what kind of things do you see? I mean, is there tendencies or in periods you see different kinds of things? >> Well, I’ll I’ll tell you. You know, there’s always going to be a lot of um viruses that are going to be out there. I was just uh told by one of my patients
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that there seems to be a new a new virus in California that’s moving around quite a bit. And uh he told me the name of it. I don’t know. Something with some it sounds like something maybe like with like pneumonia or something like that. I don’t remember. I have to look it up. >> Okay. But um there’s all these things, you know, and you know, and and because of what we’re going through right now with the water contamination, there’s a lot of skin issues. And then there are
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still people unfortunately who can’t afford to buy water and are forced to drink the water and that’s then they can’t they they’ll get infected somewhere inside. whatever their weakness is in their body, the infection will probably go there unless it’s specific, you know, and then they’ll end up on in the hospital in the, you know, at the at the ER, maybe on antibiotics. Homeop homeopathy will will reach those things as well. >> So, one could go a homeopathic >> route route, correct? rather than anti
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>> antibiotics and antibiotics aren’t aren’t guaranteed >> when homeopathy is it the same kind of a time thing I always wonder about that you know >> it depends everybody’s different it depends like you know if you if you called me and you said to me Shone I think I’m getting a cold and I gave you something right away I could probably knock it out like overnight you know and something like this how many days have you had it >> couple of weeks couple of weeks. Okay.
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So, >> and it’s going through stages. It’s now scabby. I’m thinking, well, it must be getting better, actually, but I don’t know and I don’t know what to put on. >> Well, your body’s probably your body is trying to heal it, but you know, a lot of times there’s so many foreign things coming into our bodies that we just, you know, we can’t always rely on ourselves to heal it. >> Yeah. You know, I mean, look, when I think about homeopathy, hundreds of
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years ago, there were no chemicals, there were no pesticides, there were no food additives, there were no food colorings. The air pollution wasn’t the same as it is today. So, you know, maybe in those days you could give somebody one remedy and and hit it, you know, better than bloodletting or leeches. But today, there’s too many there’s too many factors. If you go on my website, the first thing it says right at the top is air pollution is the number one killer of people, which is the truth.
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And I my my website’s old. It’s old. That’s what I’ve said from the beginning. And that’s how Vogoff came to came to be. >> Oh, by the way, let’s mention that. Do you have it with you? >> Of course. >> How many of you have gone into the store and said, “Do you have something that can help me with this vlog?” What? But here’s the sad part. This and and I’ve said this for years. >> The sad part is that a lot of times people don’t realize and and I felt this
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on I felt this on government. Okay, this has been my my peeve for a long long time and that is that nobody wants to talk about the vogue because of tourism. >> Yes. and they don’t want to say anything because they know that people will come here and very often be affected by it negatively and then it could be uh you know it could be have a negative impact on tourism which of course nobody they don’t want. So it’s really not mentioned. It’s rarely even mentioned on the weather
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forecasts and people, you know, luckily for me in all these years a lot of the people who the stores they they’re they’ve become educated and they realize when people come in now and they’re tourists and they’re complaining that they have coldlike symptoms, but they whatever they say, these stores all know already that it’s 99% of the time it is the vogue. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Cuz it manifests. What does this do? >> It works on all the things that can happen to you from vogue, which are your
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eyes can be blurry, they can burn, you can get a headache, uh your nose can be itchy, you have trouble breathing, uh your sinuses feel con That’s me. Your sinuses feel con your sinuses feel congested. >> Someone wants to give me a loan. They keep calling. 61,000 is out there for me. >> Okay, >> thank you. So >> sinuses can be >> sinuses everything everything in your head your ears can be blocked up your throat your lungs and then I remember many years ago when we first we were
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doing a um a demo up at the Ula Palakua store and somebody walked in and Frey gave them a spray and they he said you know just walk around the store and see how you feel you know come back and tell me and the guy came back and he said to him all the symptoms that I told you that I had went away he said I didn’t mention that I had a stomach ache and that went away also. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> From this. >> Yeah. Because you don’t And Yeah. Because And there is something actually
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in there that’s going to work on that because you know if you’re if you’re jogging for example and you’re running and you’re really deep breathing and you’re breathing all that vogue right into your belly and it’s going everywhere in your body. So, >> so little did I know that I’d be talking about Vog off here, but that’s great. >> It’s a wonderful, wonderful product. And I’ve had the most incredible um stories and things that people have shared with me about not being they
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couldn’t leave the eye, they couldn’t stay here if they didn’t have it, and >> whatever. It’s just it’s been really heartfelt for me. And you were the creator of the formula. >> Of course. >> Wow. >> All my products I created. Oh, >> you have lots of products. >> Oh, yeah. I have a whole line of products. >> See, when you go up to Maui homeopathy, remember homeopathy, >> right? >> Wow, that’s a great >> I make a lot of products and they’re all
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really, really good. They’re they all work and they’re all good. So, uh, I didn’t realize just how powerful this interview is going to be, but that is really super good because here on Maui, I mean, like here I am. I’m going to give you an example. They seem to think that this heart condition and high blood pressure, which they or this will, they keep give me a pill, then they say, “Well, we got to they give me another one, then they give me they give me another one.” I take
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eight eight prescription medications a day now and many of them have I mean high blood pressure one two three of them the now for someone like me to say okay I know they say don’t take cold turkey or you’ll die or you will be going through symptoms you will wish you never stopped but whatever they’re all those are threats how do How do I get off of them and even look at something like homeown? >> Okay, so uh this is a good question. >> It’s a great question. It’s a great
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question. >> Okay, >> so let’s let’s go back. Let’s go back a little bit >> and talk about doctors. >> Doctors are are taught by pharmaceutical companies. They don’t really know the things that they did. Like when you were when I was a kid, the doctor came to your house. You had a cold, your doctor came to your house and he treated you. If something was going on with you, he thought about it and made and tried to figure out an answer. Doctors don’t think the same. They don’t think
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anymore. I don’t think they just rely on big pharma for their drugs. And that’s why somebody like you, you’re taking three medications for high blood pressure when probably you don’t need three. But when the first one stopped working, they’re afraid to take you off that one. So, they put you on a second one. And when that doesn’t work, you’ve got now you’re on two and now they’re going to add a third one and put you on. And this is what’s happened to all these
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people with diabetes that they’ve been on two and three drugs because most of the drugs that are the AMA drugs are not made to be long-term. They just aren’t. They’re all made for short term. Like for example, like if you look at something like oxycodon, that’s a drug that’s going to help you if you’re in pain, but it’s not to be made long term, otherwise you become an addict. So there’s all these drugs like that. So a person like you, a doctor is never going to want to take you off a drug because
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he’s afraid because why? Cuz he doesn’t know what’s going to happen. >> I got dizzy and they took me off one. And >> so but here’s the thing, Jason. Here’s the thing, Jason. Now that you know how to muscle test, you can take pick up all your pills one at a time and you ask your body, should I be taking this? And you’re going to get an answer. And they’re going to see. And then I’m going to tell you that probably seven out of eight or maybe eight out of eight you’re
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going to go back. You’re gonna go back. >> What do you do then? Cold turkey. >> Well, you don’t. Well, we if I was if I was test if I was working with you and I was putting you on homeopathy instead, then I would see I would check to see. >> Oh, I see. Instead, cuz we you’d still identify symptoms. >> Yeah, of course. And still >> Well, I make a really incredible I make I make a heart tonic and a high blood pressure uh uh formula. See, because you’ve done this, you’ve come to
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understand what combinations work. What an amazing show. We have got John Adel telling us about something an alternative and a way to go there with it. Wow. >> Yeah. >> Well, thank you. I don’t even know what to say. I’m >> I thank you. Well, I’m going to >> I just wish more people, especially children, people, you know, people should just really embrace homeopathy. It is. It’s still one of the best medicines on the planet. It’s better than it’s it’s it just is. It just is.
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>> I’m just again just thinking. >> So, I can’t wait for you to go home now and test all your meds. I know I know you’re going to do it. >> But if I But I’m like, should I take this today? I can do it that specific. >> And there’s something else I’m going to teach you and that’ll be for another show. >> You hear that? We’re going to get Shone back for another show. That’s a good deal. Yay. >> That’s a It’ll be life-changing for
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people, honestly. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Well, maybe I can schedule you for how about an hour from now? >> We want this. I already have things scheduled, but how about in in a month or so? You mind coming? >> Anytime. I’d love to. Thank you. you guys. Hey, but don’t wait for me if you guys want to see her. And I would hope that you’d listen to this and say, “My goodness.” And um wow, already what you’ve told me is uh lifechanging. >> Good.
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>> I can’t imagine to have to wait for something that’s going to even more life-changing. So, it’s not unreasonable for me to think that I can go off my medications. >> No, it’s not. if I find suitable alternatives >> and and it’s done the right way. There may be some medications where you just can’t stop right away even though your body is telling you I don’t like this. It might you know then if if so then what I would do is I would take each medication and I would see can I take
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can I I know you don’t like it. >> So that’s a reason that see if someone said well I could do this by my own. Why do I need to have a you need someone that knows what they’re looking at and how to address this and guide you through the process. It’s like oh yeah I know acupuncture. Let me I think I’ll needle myself. >> No >> you’re going to needle me if you start needling yourself. >> Exactly. Well, you never, you know, the thing I always say to people, a lot of
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times, a lot of times when people tell me, a patient will say to me, “Oh, so and so said I should do this or I should do that.” And I I always have the same answer. Some people have no problem dabbling in your health and that’s all they’re doing. They’re just making suggestions and maybe it worked for them something, but you we don’t always know. And the thing about homeopathy, the I just want to say one more thing about homeopathy. A lot of people think it doesn’t work.
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And the reason they think it doesn’t work is because they didn’t use it properly. They didn’t know what could antidote it. They didn’t know how to take it. They didn’t know when to take it and nobody told them. And they’ll go into a health food store and they’ll buy those little vials of pellets and they don’t know what to do with them. They’ll put them in their hand that doesn’t tell you don’t touch them with your hands. It doesn’t tell you anything. So, you know,
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it’s it’s it’s not represented as well as it could be. And also, people are buying a remedy. Let’s say I’ll use arnica because arnica is such a well-known remedy by everybody. Okay? So, everybody knows that arnica works on a bruise or if you fall or something like that, but they don’t realize that it works on deep trauma or or things like that. And what does deep trauma affect? Everything in your body. So people will read on the vial that it’ll say upset stomach, but
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they don’t real they don’t know that that remedy can be addressing a hundred other things besides the upset stomach and maybe that’s not the best remedy for them for their upset stomach because there could be other things in that remedy that they don’t need. So did you learn I want to say trial and error. Is that how one learn? How do you learn this thing? Did you have a coach? Were you >> Well, I studied I studied I studied it but aside from that when I first started like using I I always muscle tested
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always different ways like I told you I studied that for four years applied kinesiology and we did like all kinds of crazy things. My brother also applied kinesiology. So I remember >> and so really the way I do it right now is like so easy and after I’m with after I’m with a patient for like five minutes of testing them they can feel the difference right away. They’ll say to me, “Oh, this one’s weak.” They can feel it because they start the same way you could feel it and you just start to feel
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it and then you you start realizing your body is really talking to you and I am not having a a verbal conversation with your body. I’m only holding your hand and I’m thinking something which you have no idea what it is and your body answers me. That’s the coolest part. >> Wow. >> Yeah, that is the coolest part. >> I’m looking up here and if I can see correct I can. It says 2 minutes and 45 seconds. Can you believe we’ve been speaking an hour? >> No. No.
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>> See, now you’re going to say, “Well, bring her back. Bring her back.” I have a few people scheduled. I don’t know who’s on next week, but I Leohu Ryder’s coming on. She called me and said, “I want to be >> good.” >> Yeah. >> You know, people that watch our show know our show is about bringing beautiful things and beautiful people to light. Today, we got a bonus plan. I knew Shone when Aaron enter. I said, “Oh, you’d be a great guest for the show.”
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And I know she does homeopathy, but we are blessed on Maui to have people like Shawn and to have people that do all kinds of things and together we are amazing. Even alone, this is an amazing woman. But when you put all the pieces together, >> yeah, >> that’s why when people say to me, “Oh, Scott, my guy, said your grandiose ideas.” My ideas are start with little things. It’s called Start by truth. Start by caring. Start by sharing. That’s right. >> Start by things that become a way of
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life and habit that make things better. And that if you watch our show, you know that’s what we’re about. And I started this because why? Because I wanted to do politics interviews like I’ve been doing for 15 elections. But then I’d have to give equal time on radio. I said, “Wait, let’s do values.” And kept adding good people. And that’s where we are now. We only have a minute left. Shone, you’ve been a terrific guest. >> Thank you, Jason. It’s been a lot of
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fun. >> I’m glad. And I hope you will come back. >> I I would love to. I would love to. >> And um as you might know, it’s, you know, an eb and flow on guests, but we’re going to make sure to get Shone back here. Well, about a month or so. We’ll see. But we I was just thinking about a regular series. That’s a good way to do it. We’ll start by having you back again. >> Okay. >> So, we have 45 seconds. Thank you all for joining us. mauineutralzone.com the
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best way to watch this stuff and uh come back next week you can see us live even call in maybe maybe have a beautiful week and happy birthday to me and Airielle and my brother and here we go everyone >> aloha
