James Akahi & his wife, AKA Akahi Nui and Akahi Wahine

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Jason Schwartz on Maui interviews James Akahi & his wife, AKA Akahi Nui and Akahi Wahine, King & Queen of Hawaii. In this rare interview, they trace the lineage of Akahi Nui and advances his ideas to the world.- 2000

Summary & Transcript Below…

 Kingdom of Hawaii and Its Reestablishment

• [00:16] Opening Theme: Maui Style
  The transcript begins with a vibrant chant emphasizing “Maui styling,” a celebration of island spirit and unity. The repeated lines encourage uplifting one’s spirit, helping each other, and embracing family love. This sets an inspirational tone about cultural identity and community strength.
• [02:57] Introduction to the Interview
  Jason Schwartz introduces the program “Mama Presents” and welcomes Her Highness Akahi Nui and Akahi Bahini, identified as the King and Queen of the Kingdom of Hawaii Trust. The interview aims to clarify questions around their roles as monarchs and the status of the Kingdom of Hawaii today.

1. 1. 1. 1. Basis of Kingship and Spiritual Appointment

• [03:18 → 04:14]
  Akahi Nui explains that his role as King is not derived from political election or human appointment but from spiritual vision and divine selection. He serves “I’o” or Akua, the supreme being recognized by the Hawaiian people, indicating a sacred, spiritual legitimacy rather than a political claim. This spiritual appointment differentiates his position from previous claims to kingship, such as that of Dennis Kanahele.
• [04:42 → 05:41]
  The King shares that Hawaiian groups have acknowledged his position, including notable figures like Bambi and Mililani Trash, who have not contested his kingship. The King expresses a strong sense of responsibility to his people, particularly in light of the ongoing legal and sovereignty challenges facing Hawaii.

1. 1. 1. 2. Historical Context of the Overthrow and Legal Status

• [06:08 → 08:10]
  Akahi Nui outlines the history starting from the illegal overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893 by 18 men, which led to the provisional government, then the Republic of Hawaii, and eventually the U.S. Territory and State of Hawaii. He refers to this as a “poisonous tree of doctrine” implanted unlawfully. He emphasizes that there is no legitimate evidence that the State of Hawaii is a lawful government, a point supported by Public Law 103-150 signed by President Clinton in 1993, which formally acknowledged and apologized for the illegal overthrow.
• [08:31 → 09:07]
  This law admits the overthrow was illegal and that the Kingdom of Hawaii remains the rightful sovereign. Despite widespread acknowledgment, confusion and fear persist among residents, many of whom live within the current U.S. legal and property systems.

1. 1. 1. 3. Land Ownership and Title Issues

• [09:36 → 13:42]
  The King discusses the complexity of land ownership in Hawaii today. Many people hold mortgages on properties with “clouded titles” because the original land ownership was never legally extinguished. The land was historically awarded by Kamehameha III under the “Elodio” system, which granted lands forever to chiefs and people, but prohibited sale outside family lines and required land to be returned to the kingdom if not cared for.
• Escrow companies and title insurers are criticized for not thoroughly researching land titles back to 1840, leading to questionable legitimacy of current land sales. This creates tension because many homeowners rely on the ability to sell land to pay mortgages, but under the kingdom’s principles, land could only be inherited, not sold to outsiders.

1. 1. 1. 4. Proposed Solutions for Land and Mortgage Issues

• [14:19 → 18:49]
  Akahi Nui proposes a transitional period of 7 to 10 years during which people can resolve mortgage obligations before full kingdom authority might be restored. He stresses that no one will be evicted unjustly and that lifetime use rights (and inheritance rights) will be granted to current occupants and their descendants. This would stabilize people’s living situations and protect native land rights.
• Title companies and mortgage lenders are seen as responsible parties for the current confusion due to failure to research titles properly and issuing loans on clouded properties. The King suggests their insurance should cover these liabilities and contribute to resolving the issue.

1. 1. 1. 5. King’s Personal Journey and Legitimacy

• [19:14 → 24:29]
  Akahi Nui shares a personal testimony about his spiritual calling and discovery of his Hawaiian heritage. Initially unaware, he came to realize through divine guidance and historical research that he is a pure-blooded Kanaka Maoli (native Hawaiian). He retrieved an original 1840 seal from his grandmother’s lineage, symbolizing his legitimacy as heir and rightful leader.
• His kingship is grounded in this spiritual and genealogical authority, supported by divine selection rather than political maneuvering. He emphasizes his role as protector of the Hawaiian people and lands.

1. 1. 1. 6. Core Doctrines and Vision for the Kingdom

• [24:29 → 27:47]
  The King declares that his governance embraces all ethnic groups residing in Hawaii, likening the community to a rainbow of colors united in the islands. He envisions restoring traditional Hawaiian land management systems, including dividing the land into districts (ahupua’a) governed locally, echoing ancient practices.
• Freedom and unity are central themes, with a focus on healing fear and uncertainty among residents who worry about land loss.

1. 1. 1. 7. Response to U.S. Government Initiatives

• [28:27 → 31:23]
  The interview touches on Senator Daniel Akaka’s Congressional efforts to establish the Kingdom of Hawaii as a “nation within a nation.” Akahi Nui firmly rejects this, arguing the Hawaiian nation never relinquished its sovereignty and that such a move would undermine true Hawaiian independence and perpetuate injustice.
• He compares the Hawaiian situation to Native American tribes, some of whom have accepted similar arrangements but with mixed satisfaction. He stresses that the Kingdom has existing treaties with the U.S. and that any relinquishing of rights would be detrimental.

1. 1. 1. 8. Current Activities: Land Titles and Community Engagement

• [31:48 → 35:01]
  Akahi Nui reveals that some landowners, including non-Hawaiians, are voluntarily returning land titles to the Kingdom of Hawaii Trust. In exchange, they receive lifetime use rights passed down through families, ensuring protection from eviction or condemnation by outside interests.
• This trust-based system aims to safeguard native land rights while respecting the current residents’ needs. The Kingdom operates with a spiritual council or cabinet and plans to expand as more land is incorporated.
• Contact information and web presence (freehawaii.org) are provided for those interested in engaging with the Kingdom or exploring land title transfers.

1. 1. 1. 9. Challenges and Community Concerns

• [36:21 → 38:56]
  Discussion returns to the challenges posed by mortgages and unclear land titles. The King acknowledges the complexity and fears among residents but stresses the importance of unity and cooperation to resolve these issues. Title companies and banks are urged to take responsibility.
• Condominium ownership is highlighted as a particular complication due to land and structure ownership separation.

1. 1. 1. 10. Testimonials from Landowners Who Transferred Titles

• [41:15 → 46:41]
  Two landowners, Jerry Chong and John Sheldridge, share their experiences transferring land titles to the Kingdom of Hawaii. Both express relief and gratitude for the protection and lifetime inheritance rights provided by the Kingdom, despite their diverse ethnic backgrounds (Chinese and Caucasian).
• They affirm that they can continue living on their lands and pass them to descendants, though they cannot sell the land outright. Their stories illustrate practical applications of the Kingdom’s principles and appeal to a broader community beyond native Hawaiians.

1. 1. 1. 11. Closing Remarks and Call for Unity

• [47:11 → 49:28]
  The program concludes with a reaffirmation of family love, community support, and cultural pride, echoing the opening theme’s call to “Maui style it” — a metaphor for embracing and living the Hawaiian spirit fully. The hosts express hope for ongoing dialogue and greater involvement in the Kingdom’s reestablishment efforts.

1. 1. 1. Key Insights:

• The Kingdom of Hawaii, as represented by Akahi Nui, claims legitimate sovereignty based on spiritual appointment and historical lineage, not on political election.
• The overthrow of 1893 was illegal and remains unrectified legally, supported by U.S. Congressional acknowledgment.
• Land ownership in Hawaii is legally complicated by clouded titles, conflicting with traditional Hawaiian land tenure that forbids outright sale outside family lines.
• The Kingdom proposes lifetime use rights and inheritance as a model to protect residents and native land claims without immediate eviction.
• There is skepticism about U.S. government efforts like Senator Akaka’s bill, viewed as undermining true Hawaiian sovereignty.
• The Kingdom is actively receiving land title transfers from residents who wish to protect their properties under Hawaiian sovereignty.
• A transition period is proposed to allow residents to resolve mortgage and legal issues.
• The Kingdom emphasizes inclusivity, cultural heritage, and restoration of traditional governance structures.

1. 1. 1. Summary Conclusion:

This transcript provides a comprehensive overview of the Kingdom of Hawaii’s efforts to reestablish sovereignty, protect native land rights, and create a viable path forward for residents caught in complex legal and cultural circumstances. The spiritual legitimacy of the current King, Akahi Nui, is foundational to his authority, and the Kingdom seeks to unite all island residents in a shared vision of justice, cultural respect, and sustainable community. The challenges around land title, mortgages, and federal recognition remain significant but are met with proposed solutions emphasizing fairness, protection, and respect for Hawaiian traditions. The dialogue invites further engagement, legal clarity, and collective action toward restoring the Kingdom’s rightful place.

Transcript

02:57

Aloha! Welcome to another Mama Presents. I’m Jason Schwartz, you know me, but I imagine many of you don’t know who I’m sitting with. I’m sitting here with Akahi Nui. Majesty Akahi Nui of the Kingdom of Hawaii Trust. Right. This is the King of Hawaii and the Queen of Hawaii. Her Highness Akahi Wahine.

03:18

The King and the Queen are here with me because we’ve had a lot of interest from people to understand what is going on with the Kingdom of Hawaii and the King and the Queen of Hawaii. You’re the King and Queen by virtue of what treaties and or what situations so that everyone can understand on what basis you are in this position?

03:45

In pertaining to the vision that was, which has been brought upon His Majesty Akahi Nui, it was a vision, it’s not a godly appoint, it’s not a manly appointed position, but it’s a spiritually appointed position that was brought upon him by the visions that were brought upon him by the spirit, which is a god, he serves the foremost as I’o, which is the highest supreme being in the universe, which is called Akua also, by our people, which is

04:14

is the people of Hawaii. And this is not a manly appointed, but a godly appointed position which has been brought him. It’s not like an elected position by man, but it’s a godly elected position that he has come and taken at this time. OK. And over the last few years, we heard that Dennis Kanahele was the king. And we had all kinds of different groups

04:42

Now, people are hearing that you, Kahinui, you’re the King of Hawaii. So, have the Hawaiian groups been together and understanding your new position or that your position and what it is? Most of all, Bambi would know about me. I approached him back in 1993 and his statement was that he will never challenge me. But we met with Mililani Trash.

05:13

And her statement, she did not make no statement at all against me being the king of the Hawaiian Islands. And as king of the Hawaiian Islands, I imagine you feel a tremendous responsibility to your people to what? I’ll be fully responsibility because of the eating overture that happened. And the state right now have to prove

05:41

whether they are lawful to become a lawful government here. They have to prove knowing whatever is going to happen in court, if I ever challenge the state. Okay. So I’m trying to get some clarity. You’re the king of the kingdom of Hawaii, but at the moment, do you have any lands? I mean,

06:08

All these lands were overthrown in 1893, right? Yes. But we have an active United States presence and lots of change of titles of land and purchase and sale of property. And it’s somewhat of a confusion from many people’s point of view on what to do now. How can we be

06:36

doing what is righteous for the peoples of Hawaii who have been overthrown. But there’s lots of fear in the hearts of a lot of people on an unknown condition of what’s going to be. Well, as you know, the land is on cloudy tidal right now. Everyone knows that, even the realtors all know that. United States knows that. And right now, United States, they have five treaties with us guys.

07:06

And this become 107 years, 107 years that’s been the overture. Beginning from the root of all this, it starts, it begins on January 17, 1893. The poisonous tree of doctrine then was implanted into the soils of Hawaii as well as into the manpower, which is called the provisional government, which it became, the provisional government first, which it took 18 men,

07:33

to bring apart the overthrow of Hawaii. Then it became the Republic of Hawaii, which becomes another branch of the poisonous tree of doctrine that was implanted in Hawaii, and the overthrow of the nation. Then it then became the territory of Hawaii, which is called now the state of Hawaii.

07:52

When it becomes then, the poisonous tree of doctrine which has been implanted, it becomes the poisonous tree and branches of Hawaii now, which there is no evidential facts of evidence that the state of Hawaii can challenge or prove that this is a lawful government.

08:10

Due to the fact of the admittance and public law 103-150, they have admitted to the actions of their illegal act by the drawing of a sword, which there was no war here in Hawaii to protect the Americans for one. They were here to protect the Hawaiian people. Now this was 1893 you’re speaking?

08:31

Yes, it all began… This act that you just were quoting was when? When President Clinton made an apology? Yes, on June 23, 1993, he signed with Congress in agreement that it becomes public law 103-150

08:47

Public law defines the fact in law term it is to protect the public. And it has been admitted into evidence of law that it was an illegal overthrow for the US over the lawful nation, which is the kingdom of Hawaii. Which this admittance now is recorded in law and in records.

09:07

There is no evidence for the state of Hawaii or the United States of America to prove a fact that it is not a law. It is an illegal act at this time due to the admittance here in Hawaii illegally. I think that most people I know, Hawaiian and otherwise, recognize that the kingdom of Hawaii was overthrown illegally.

09:36

But now they don’t know what to do because so many of them are quote, own, illegally own the lands of here and they really don’t know what to do. Many of them have mortgages. Many of them are in the middle of a system that’s been their whole lifetime. And now the question is really, now what do we do? How do we?

10:02

will not put their people out because they bought land in Hawaii. It’s not their fault to buy land in Hawaii, but the kingdom is here now. It’s working up one thing that if the people only realize to give the land back in return, I will put them for lifetime interest there, living rights. Lifetime interest and their… And their children, children, children, passed on through generations through generations.

10:28

And they can sell it, sort of like what we understand. They cannot sell. They cannot sell it to someone else, only their families. No, they can just pass it down to their family, but not sell. Okay, so effectively it’ll stop a lot of the, a lot, all the real estate sales that are going on of people that want to come here and own or be here in a house, right? Mary and Bob Jones are in this house in Kahului.

10:55

And they have a mortgage of $150,000. And the house is worth $250,000. And they don’t want to live there anymore. And they don’t want to pass it to their kids. They were thinking the way they’d get out from this obligation was to sell the house and at that time pay off the mortgage. So now, based on what you’re saying, they can’t sell it. They can give it to their kids, right?

11:22

Yeah, as you know, the land always was for the kingdom of Hawaii. We’re talking about the land, not the structure that was built on the land. So that the kingdom will protect the land. But the mortgage thing is dealing with the bank of some kind, you know.

11:40

But a lot of the mortgages, if not all the mortgages, are based on the value of the land and the house, which makes it a challenge. Right. That would be a challenge with the kingdom, because they’ve got to prove otherwise their jurisdiction, whether they are lawful or not.

12:02

In 1843, Kamehameha III awarded the lands in an Elodio pattern to the

12:12

royalties to the ali’is, the chiefs, and also to his people. And when he had awarded the lands to his people, it was forever. It was not to be sold, but it was to be carried on from one heir to another, from generation to generation. It could never be sold. If they could not malama the aina, care for the land, then it was to be given back to the kingdom of Hawaii, to the government.

12:36

But it could never be sold. So the purchases of lands today in Hawaii is purchased with a clouded title. For instance, Title Guarantee is supposed to be the escrow company that should be doing the title search. They cannot go down 20 years to check on the title search. They have to go to the beginning of 1840. What happened then? How did the lands get issued? If they go into the term of the full…

13:03

research in titles they would then know and understand which i believe they do know that they are selling lands with the clouded title but as far as to the mortgages whenever a person go and borrow money to purchase a home

13:18

They are automatically obligated to the contractual agreement that they do with the bank or to any loan company. You can’t borrow the money and not repay what your obligations are. That’s an obligation to the owners that are purchasing the home. But as far as the land, it’s a clouded title. It’s a title that is not clear.

13:42

But these people now, based on what you’re saying, can’t sell that home. So they don’t have any way to get the dollars to pay off the mortgages. Right.

13:54

But that’s an obligation to the person that goes to get the mortgage for their home. But as far as to the error in this whole issue is the bank and escrow. They didn’t do the thorough, complete research on the title of the land. If they had done it, I totally would not, if I was a banker, I would not lend them the money using a property that has a clouded title.

14:19

Okay. But I’m just saying, right now, I’m sure you can agree, there are many thousands of people who have. And so, I’m trying to find what can be done in this moment where people can become supportive of development and establishment of the Kingdom of Hawaii without

14:46

having to deal with this fear. I mean, how can we somehow embrace everyone and make it circumstances that are livable or reasonable for people? Because I don’t think anyone disagrees that the Kingdom of Hawaii came up with the short stick that someone came in to protect them and basically took over their lands, took over their everything.

15:12

And now a hundred years have gone by, and we all have people that, like they say, I didn’t do it, but here they are now in this very difficult situation. For one, it should not be taken out of the hands. I don’t believe His Majesty would remove them from their homes. They labored it.

15:33

So why should it be in such a way where they should be removed from the land that they labored so long on and remove them from their homes? I believe it should still remain the same, in the same process, but not where their heirs wouldn’t be able to establish the rights also to live there continuously to the future generations.

15:57

But now here, Mary and Bob Jones, we’ll put them in a condo in Waalea. How’s that? And they have a mortgage. Mary and Bob Jones have this condo, and they don’t want to be here anymore. They can’t afford these mortgage payments. Is there any solution for them? They can’t sell it. I believe they should.

16:22

For one, whatever the outstanding obligations to their loan, they should in some form and way establish some form of financial way to clear their debt in their obligations to the loan. And then I believe it could then be returned back to the kingdom.

16:41

under an agreement with the kingdom? Most Mary and Bob Jones, or everyone else, don’t have the money. Or I imagine they all would be happy to pay off those debts. That’s why they were intending on selling the property, as the property appreciates in value. So that’s why I say it’s confusing. It’s confusing to me on how to get out of this situation and not create panic

17:08

with the mass of the people, and in that, it sometimes can be difficult for them to want to see the kingdom of Hawaii established because it puts them in what they perceive as jeopardy.

17:21

Well, I believe it will be a time of interim before the whole turnover towards the kingdom. There should be a number of years in the interim, which I believe it should be 7 to 10 years, an interim period giving the people a chance to take care of matters like we just spoke on in regards to the obligation to the contractual obligation with any bank.

17:44

or any situation they find themselves pretty much having a problem getting out of. And there should be this time interim that we should give the people an opportunity of choice and time to make their decisions, which they will be having a length of time, which I believe seven to ten years is a lot of time. It’s a lot of time, but there is no solution. There is no solution.

18:08

There is no solution. You could wait 20 years and someone with an obligation of $300,000 that can’t sell the property, there’s, we reach a wall. And you’re saying that that wall is that the title companies are responsible for not tracing the title completely before the purchase. And so the title company,

18:34

Basically, has to be coming up with the money to relieve that obligation. Exactly. I totally agree because of their title insurance that covers the title that is given from escrow for the clearance to the buyers.

18:49

They should be the liable parties, too, where the solution should be taken care of due to the insurance coverage over the title. We’d love to hear from you, all you title companies and insurance companies, because it’s through your efforts that we can come to some kind of solution. You know, I think it would probably be helpful for us to establish or get some more clarity on

19:14

on your kingdom and how you’ve come to the position you are and track it for people because people are asking me a lot how is he the king of hawaii why is he the king of hawaii is there two king of hawaiis are there three king of hawaiis i heard they were fighting all that kind of stuff for one for one how i became choosing because in 1980 there was a challenge between me and me and god

19:44

And all of a sudden, I didn’t believe that there was God. And he draw a line between me and him. In 1980, I became saved. And then as I, he put me to his, to all these things that I got to go through all these hassles that he made me go through.

20:14

He challenged me on that issue, and then in 1992, I was gifted by him. I did not know about my kind people. I thought all the time I was a U.S. citizen. And I claimed myself as a U.S. citizen until I went to have to go back and trace and look into my birth certificate.

20:43

I claim myself as American, and my birth certificate shows only Kanaka. So after, then he worked into my life, and he told me to go to these groups in Oahu to study these things, the spirit that I’m talking about, Holy Spirit. So I went down in 1992. I learned that, wow, we are not U.S. citizens. So I traced my things, and I tried to find out

21:14

Where’s my certificate that I can prove to people that I’m a U.S. citizen and did not have any for me? I knew that the United States put us guys on top there without letting us guys know. Then the Spirit talked to me about, you know, that you can’t call yourself Chinese.

21:40

Because all the time I thought I was Chinese, but I end up, I’m a pure-blooded Hawaiian, 100%. Because that’s when it was brainwashed going to school. And then in 1992, it showed me many things. It made me go and, you know, search out this thing. Made me go get the seal that I hold to today for the people. They didn’t know that my grandmother would have a seal in 1840.

22:09

That’s the seal I hold today. God had sent the Holy Spirit. I went down to the archives to heaven. In the archives, he showed me everything to get that seal out. And the seal was made with a diamond, a measurement. That’s all we took. We took the measurement of the seal that says Akahinui.

22:32

That’s my grandmother there. So we found the paper. We took it down to the Bureau of Convents. We filed the papers in. I see. We caught the paper. Bureau of Convents took about, oh, I have almost two hours in order to pass that thing. They knew what happened, but they didn’t know that I’m going to use that. So in 1992, I used that in the first court case. And they was jumping, the clerks was jumping in the court.

23:01

Say, you can use this. Well, who’s the top? I didn’t know about the clerks or chief clerks at that time, 1992. So they went and called the chief clerk. Chief clerk came and looked at the series. Oh, there’s nothing wrong with that. So they took my paper as a notary. So that went on and on until God had worked a lot of things in my life to get the passport, to get all these things, record everything before you come out.

23:32

So that’s how I was choosing by the father to become the person to run for the people. And in the documents that are from 1840 and before, it actually traces you in your lineage? I passed that in the 14th. I see. My lineage goes straight in. And no one, no Kanakamole can come as close as I.

24:01

I see. So God had a reason why he picked me. So now what I’m doing for the people of land now, they give the kingdom back, and I give them back lifetime interest plus generations and generations. Pass them down to your kids. No one in history would do that, not even other groups, because you’ve got to show your pala pala in all the ways to face the state. I got the pala pala to face the state.

24:29

God gave me all this. And I was chosen by him to be the king. As king, do you have any doctrines that you hold core to your nation? I have all kinds of doctrines. Even in 9th of Pentecost, it says that they lack over the subject matter, over the campaign, over the kingdom of Hawaii. And when I came back from one trip,

24:57

that I took in Geneva, I was stopped by the United States. With three of us. I took seven of us guys in Geneva with a passport, Kingdom of Hawaii passport, diplomatic passport. We coming back from Geneva, entering to United States, we got stopped. They took our passport. They said, well, our passport is no good. I said, sir, before you say that,

25:21

The passport is good for us, not good for you folks. If you only look at this paper here, the 9th appellate paper, it says that you folks do not have jurisdiction over us. So when they called Washington, D.C., and Washington, D.C. somehow called Geneva, because Geneva gave us the visa. And when he came back, he had his hand up like this. I told my wife, whoa, what happened? She said, it’s good. I told you, sir, because I never owned Hawaii.

25:50

Thank you. But we lost our flight. They were dead. We scheduled our flight for the next day, and they gave us guys room and board, telephone, free phone, and they upgrade us guys to coming home, the Roy family.

26:03

I see. What I was asking was, as a kingdom of Hawaii, any doctrines that you live by that you say to the peoples of your kingdom, these are my proclamations. Are there any things that you want the people that are part of your kingdom to know and understand and where you abide by from your heart? Yes.

26:29

It’s a proclamation to all. It’s not only to the Kanaka Maoli people, but to all ethnic groups. We are like a rainbow of all different colors, and we can unite within the islands, like our ancestors had with other nationalities that have come in, even as immigrants. And it’s open to all, every man, every woman, every child that walks.

26:54

within the earth and the islands of Kaua’ine, it’s to all. And we stand here to even be a part of them as we want them to be a part of us. So, as I recall in years past, there were ahapuaas, that the land was divided in such a way that each area was governed.

27:18

Kunihikis. Kunihikis. Do you hope to employ that kind of a system again? Yes. We’ll have to go back that way to just break it down. At least protect the districts. We call it districts. So it’s going to be easier for the people. And I don’t see nothing to be afraid of. It’s going to be, this is what you call freedom. That’s what the people are looking for, freedom.

27:47

But we first have to get past that first time where all the people are going, I lose my house. I’m here, and yet my family and other families are over there. How do we do that? So there’s a lot of things to work out before we get to that then. I know that people are afraid of losing their team, but if they know Akua, then they know that…

28:09

They can test my spirit out because I am a born-again Christian. They can test my spirit out and they can, you know, go back to Akua and ask him. Akua will speak. Right now,

28:27

The Senator Daniel Akaka from the United States has proposed in Congress, you probably know more about this than I do, has proposed the establishment of the Kingdom of Hawaii as a nation within a nation. Your thoughts? Well, as you know, we are a nation, independent nation. We have never relinquished our rights to anyone. As you know, the bill you are talking about, you know, the people…

28:57

Every Kanaka have their own rights. If they go there and they sign up on the bill or they relinquish it, they’re establishing their rights to the United States. We all know that. But for me, I will not sign this because I know we are a nation. We are Kanaka Maoli people. I’m not going to sign off and relinquish my rights when you come back to the

29:23

to the Public Law 103152. It states right there that we have never relinquished our rights. So you feel that the things that Akaka is doing there with OHA are not to the benefit of the Kingdom of Hawaii? No, because number one is that Akaka himself, when you look at Akaka, he’s asking everyone to vote. It’s up to the kanaka mole whether they want to vote or not, but they got to think.

29:51

But again, I said we had never relinquished our rights to anyone. But once they relinquish their rights, as some of them said, it’s not going to jam them up. It’s going to jam them up, because why? You’re giving your rights to the U.S. again.

30:08

Public Law 103-150 already, Congress and the President has admitted to the fact of the illegal overthrow already that

they have committed. So they must understand we are here to bring justice upon our people, not injustice, continuous. Because as nation within a nation, it just repeats the wrong that the United States has already committed upon the Hawaiian people.

30:31

And when the lands were given from the Republic of Hawaii to the U.S., it could not be conveyed in that point because already the fact, the overthrow was illegally taken in 1893. So it already proves the fact that the Republic of Hawaii has illegally given the lands over to the United States. Illegally.

30:53

The American Indians also have had their lands taken over illegally and have gone through establishment of, quote, nation within a nation. Some of them are happy, some of them are unhappy. You don’t think that that’s a good route to go? No, I don’t think it’s because we are a nation. We have a treaty with the United States, five treaties with the United States, and the United States obligated to all this.

31:23

I see. You know, I know we’re down here, today we’re in beautiful Nahiku, and we’re down here because you’ve got a couple of days of meetings about the nature of the land and its titles, and then tomorrow you’re going to do a service here. The land. Now, as I’ve heard about it, maybe you can clarify for me.

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You have gotten people that are starting to give you title to the land back. These are people that own land free and clear that are transferring title back to the kingdom of Hawaii? Yes. Okay. I’m here just to protect the people of the land. They give the land back to the kingdom. In return, I have a paper here saying that, you know, in return I gave the people back for a lifetime.

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And this is a paper right here that I have. And we all know that the kingdom of Hawaii is an Asian. We do not pay taxes. We are foreign people. So right here, to protect John Sheldridge, John Sheldridge is here. Okay. Yeah. I have his paper here that’s been approved by the tax. And it says here that John Sheldridge has

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for himself and his family, forever and ever to live there. I’m not here to take anyone’s land away. I’m just here to protect the people because we’ve got many millionaires that come here. They shove our people out. So if you see the kingdom protecting these people, you know the court not gonna take the kingdom inside. It become a sovereign thing. And the court knows that. So that’s why I’m here to protect the people.

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Well, you have a stack of these. You’ve had lots of land being turned over? I have two lands here, one from a Chinese couple. They were supposed to be evicted. Condemned. But, you know, get a wide field person that come there, a millionaire come there, want to condemn their land. So this person came up to me and said, what can you do to protect our land?

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I can do a lot of things. But I’m glad that you came up to me. So in return, they didn’t know how I was going to do the papers. But in return, the kingdom owned the land. But in return, I gave them a lifetime, passed down through the generations, through generations. I see. And no state or federal can put them out anymore. They’ve got to challenge the kingdom. And their personal reason on returning back the land, back to the kingdom, is they totally believe that Nakanaka Maoli

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Hawaii has never relinquished their true and just rights to their lands, and their personal belief that it should be transferred and give it back as a gift back to the kingdom, to the people, to all the Kanaka people in a trust under the kingdom of Hawaii. Do you have a council already established? Akua is our council. Akua is our council. I mean, a round table of people? Okay, a cabinet. Cabinet, yes. We do. We do. And…

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Do you meet regularly? I’m really trying to get a feeling for where and how the kingdom is functioning. As it is expanded to have more land, then more will become apparent because it will be more clear. But right now, where is the land of the Kingdom of Hawaii now? These parcels for sure.

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are part of we’re starting to bring together and to build the solid foundations back bringing it back the people by coming back and relinquishing their properties back to the kingdom as a nation to be their solid foundation for all how do people get in touch with the kingdom well we have one on we’re on the website with bob on our freehold you have an email there yes okay

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So what, akahinui, akahifahini at freehawaii.org? And there’s an email there which you can link to us on it. And usually Bob does bring it over to us when there’s an email that is sent to him. Okay. So if out there there’s an ambassador from…

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Uganda, or Colorado, or wherever, or United States somewhere, or somewhere. So they can contact you, and you will be getting back to them as well. And what about people who want to explore turning the title over to you? We also could be connected up. Same way? Okay.

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And the thing about the mortgages and that, I’m still a little unclear. I really am so aware that there are many thousands of people

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who really, truly want to see the reestablishment of the kingdom of Hawaii and rights to the Hawaiians for things that have been illegally taken. And they have mortgages. And they are in a position where they don’t really know what to do.

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There’s a lot of things to do. Title guarantees, all the title companies, our insurers, every title. So they should be facing the obligation to those questions to everyone that has gone into the contractual agreement through our mortgage fund. I’m sure this has been discussed by a lot of people, right? And any conclusions come out of it? A lot of brushing aside of things, I know. Hi, puppy. When it comes down to the facts of the evidence, there is none to withhold them that they can stand upon.

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And the truth is the truth. But then the question is, what about enforcement? What about, now that we know this is what it is, how are we going to actualize it into actual? That’s the part that’s the gray area that I…

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the people have its right now to come forward and admit to the fact of their issues in regards to the land and titles, then we could also join hands together in unity and… So there we go. Then it means that the people, even with mortgages, can contact you and say that they would like to turn the title of the land over to the Kingdom of Hawaii, and then it becomes an issue

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Of going back to these title companies? Yeah. If you see one structure like, say, condo, condominium, and people buy homes in there, you have to look at this. That condominium is built on our solid foundation, on our ground, on our turf. So again, you’re looking at the condo and the people that are in mortgage that place. We can’t protect them.

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Well, I think it’s going to create a lot of interesting conversation. Well, it’s going to be the bank. Bank itself have to fall out. But again, they got to look the structure. I see.

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Well, I would hope to hear from you guys. You can make comments to the website. Again, what’s the web address? Administration or thekingdomofhawaii at freehawaii.org. Or you can contact them through me also, kingdomofhawaii at dreammaui, two Ms, no spaces, .com. That’s my domain.

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See, we all have our domain now in this Internet world. We can all have our own domain. Mine’s… So yours is freehawaii.org. I really hope we… I would like to give you a paper in case people ask you about this thing. Okay. This is about the property that we are occupying. And you can see everything is in here. So you can explain to them if they come across with you. Okay. And that really would show the thing what we’re doing. We are for the people.

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No matter what race, what color, we are for them. Well, I would like, I know I see everyone’s gathering, getting ready to begin in council with you. I hope that we can have more opportunities to meet. I hope we can have a roundtable with others that are not from the Kingdom of Hawaii. See if we can come to some things that will make things better. Right.

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We hope that all of you out there have enjoyed this show and also have sparked your interest in thinking more about it and want to be more involved in this whole process. It is my great pleasure to meet with you guys. Thank you for spending the time here with me. Really a pleasure. Bless you. Thank you. And I hope we get to do it again. Thank you. Aloha. Thank you for joining us.

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A lot’s been shared here, and we’ll be looking forward for the future roundtable discussions with all others that would like to join us. Thank you. I hope that this serves everyone. Okay? Yes. Thank you for being here. You’re welcome. Many of you know Jimmy Tanaka. Welcome. You were going to go to those hearings about the

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the Kingdom of Hawaii, they were called off because Senator Akaka was recuperating from his hip surgery. So tell me that story again. That’s worth hearing. Yes. In the last moment, they call us by telephone and say the outside islands is not going to have that hearing. So they say we all have to go to Honolulu and then testify all by telephone. And the thing is,

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It’s not as easy to get in contact with us. So, therefore, I wrote a letter in to Senator Daniel Inouye. And they have my, what they call, presentation of my feelings for the Hawaiian nation. And I say, if the truth cannot come out from our government,

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our government will be a hypocritical government. Aloha. I thank you very much for this opportunity to say my personal feelings. Aloha. My name is Jerry Chong. You transferred the title of your land to the Kingdom of Hawaii? Yes, I did. This is happening in January. I see the Majesty, Akahi Inui, and we’re told my land will be

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what you can say, be sold or be sued by the people of some party in Kula, Kea Kea. And so I see the king, the majesty, see what he can do for me. But the king, well, he said, I’m, see what I can do. He give me a couple months later, he told me, come down.

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and see what we can do. He lay out some plans for the paperwork and said, yeah, we can do it. So in February 17, year 2000, we did it. But we didn’t have the quick deed until this week, sometime this is what? End of August 2000. Just about the end of August that we made the quick deed.

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went to fly to Honolulu, make the quick deed. Everything we had to go through was make some copies that have been notarized. You have to have his majesty notarized too.

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go on to the tax office, and from the tax office go to the, we were convinced. Has it changed anything about the way you use your property? Yeah, he said we can stay there for life, two years, my sister’s kids live on, generation to generation, until no chance left, or kids of the great-grandchildren that have been, live on the land.

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Right, but you can’t sell it? No, I can’t sell. I can’t sell no land. You can sell the house, but you know, that’s all it’s supposed to be.

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from generation to generation, on to on. My son’s kids, my sister’s kids, great-grandchildren, whatever, goes on to on. So I guess you were the first of a number of people that have been doing this? Yes, I’m the first of doing this. You’re a brave soul. Yeah. And I’m sure a lot of people will be looking at this and seeing if it’s an option that meets their heart, too. Yes, they will do. And I’m not Hawaiian. I’m pure Chinese, and I’m…

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If you look at it, who live around you in front of the Hawaiians? Look at the back of you. Who live behind you? And that’s only, not only me, but you got Portuguese, Filipinos, some Chinese.

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All kinds of people, all kinds of races, Caucasian, whatever you want to say. Well, thank you for taking the time to be here with us. Oh, you’re welcome. We wish you the best, and as we have roundtable discussions in the future, I know you’re very welcome. Oh, thank you. Aloha. Aloha. Mahalo. Thank you very much. You’re welcome. Aloha. Aloha. My name’s John Shortridge. I was born in San Francisco, California. I thank God every day I get to live in Hawaii.

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And I love the Hawaiian people, but the arrogance with which people from my own country have in acquiring ancient Hawaiian lands is embarrassing. My mama wouldn’t like it. And thank God for James Akayanui and his help.

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So, John, you transferred the title of your land to the kingdom of Hawaii, and the king gave you the, quote, rights to use that land for your lifetime and your heirs? Yes, he did. He did. Okay. And you did it because of what you just were saying earlier, that you actually have a passion for the Hawaiian people and you feel they’ve been wrong. It’s embarrassing the way they’re taking the land. They’re giving beads instead of dollars. Mm-hmm.

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And they’re still doing it, and it’s embarrassing. Anyone who’d look at this would say it’s embarrassing. Put it through high schools in America. They would all say it’s embarrassing, everyone. I know they would. It’s embarrassing. Well, thank you for spending the time here. We just wanted to be sure, because it supports what Akahi Nuhi has shared with us. Thank you very much. Thank you. Aloha. Aloha.

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Aloha to all my people.

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it’s been with you

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Your mother, your father, your sister and brother There is love in this family Pick yourself up and get on your feet Don’t stop me now Maui style it, don’t let me down Maui style it, don’t let me down Maui style it, don’t let me down

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We’ll be right back.

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