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Jason Schwartz with SELF for MOST of the SHOW— then…. Jerome “TIGER” Metcalfe– Guest Tiger Metcalfe was unavoidably late- Jason speaks of Visiting production TEMPTATION ISLAND shoot in West Maui, some local issues and then plays Great music til a sudden Metcalfe arrival. 7-15-2019

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The Neutral Zone with Jason Schwartz

[00:00 → 05:56] Introduction and Local Community Updates

•  [00:00] The show, The Neutral Zone, airs live on Mondays and is replayed on Saturdays on KAKU 88.5 FM, the Voice of Maui. The host, Jason Schwartz, opens by inviting locals to take an introductory radio class offered by KAKU to learn how to host their own talk shows.
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• [00:51] Jason thanks David Bryan, a notable community supporter and founder of New Roads School and board member at the Ojai Foundation.
• [01:48] Jason shares a personal anecdote about singing “Sympathy for the Devil” during a studio production class at University of Hawaii Maui College, appreciating the musical experience and community connections.
• [04:30] He planned to have Jerry Metcalfe, a local figure and former County Council candidate, as a guest but was unable to reach him. Instead, Jason decided to speak with Richard Dan, a long-standing Wailuku merchant and sponsor, about concerns around the Wailuku parking structure project and local tensions.
• [05:56] Jason reflects on his nine and a half years living in Wailuku and involvement in community planning meetings (charettes) that brought together various stakeholders to discuss sustainable development solutions, many of which relate to current projects.

[06:37 → 14:52] Fires, Film Production Experience, and Industry Development

• [06:37] Jason mentions recent significant fires on Maui that caused highway closures and cancellations of community events, expressing relief that most fires are now under control.
• [07:18] He discusses his recent experience as a production assistant on a reality TV show called Temptation Island, describing the show’s concept—a social experiment involving couples being separated and tested by attractive singles to challenge relationship fidelity.
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• [08:37] Jason highlights the professional environment on set, including the roles of producers and the storytelling process, emphasizing the balance between authenticity and entertainment.
• [10:42] He explains the role of a production assistant as largely logistical, including transporting cast and crew, and shares insights about the demanding 12.5-hour workdays typical in TV production.
• [11:21] Jason advocates for hands-on experience for media students at Maui College, noting that practical work is often more critical than formal education credentials in the industry.
• [12:48] He points out challenges in building a local film and TV production workforce, with many technical roles filled by professionals from other islands or the mainland due to lack of local qualified personnel.
• [14:10] Jason encourages more local engagement with the industry and offers contact information for those interested in media production opportunities.
• [14:52] He shares an anecdote about attempts to establish a local soundstage and the involvement of location managers and equipment crews from various Hawaiian islands, emphasizing the warmth and professionalism of production teams while noting areas for improved aloha spirit in hospitality services.

[15:33 → 20:39] Homelessness, Housing, and Local Government Insights

• [15:33] Jason reflects on the challenges of homelessness in Maui, including the limited access to water and infrastructure in areas like Laniupoko where homeless camps exist.
• [17:08] He regrets not having Jerry Metcalfe on the show to share his first-hand experiences researching homelessness by living it, noting Metcalfe’s candid and public approach to the topic.
• [17:53] Jason praises Mayor Michael Victorino for his leadership style, highlighting the mayor’s trust in capable staff and contrasting it with leadership styles at higher government levels.
• [18:32] He anticipates future conversations with Mayor Victorino about challenges in office, especially regarding housing and homelessness.
• [19:10] Jason stresses the severity of homelessness, noting the large numbers of people sleeping in cars and camps along Maui’s highways, questioning official reporting accuracy and expressing concern about officials’ detachment from the lived realities of homeless individuals.
• [20:39] He acknowledges the complexity of homelessness and housing as overlapping but distinct issues and reiterates the need for outspoken and informed voices like Metcalfe’s to illuminate these problems.

[20:39 → 26:50] Health, Music, and Community Support

• [20:39] Jason shares that both he and Susie Gastrein, a key studio staff member, have recently been ill with flu-like symptoms, which interrupted production activities.
• [22:05] He transitions to a musical segment, playing and discussing intricate guitar music, reflecting on the evolution of guitar styles from acoustic to electric and the increasing technical complexity of playing.
• [25:33] Jason introduces a special musical guest, David Doran, former guitarist with Iron Butterfly, to highlight exceptional guitar work.
• [26:10] He thanks sponsors such as Common Alone Cash-for-Gold, Naoko I Motors, and David Bryan’s Center for the Common Good, recognizing their contributions to community media and sustainability efforts on Maui.

1. 1. 1. 1. [26:50 → 34:31] Community Workshops, Public Service Announcements, and Local Challenges

• [26:50] Jason promotes upcoming workshops for seniors on smartphone use, sponsored by Olcott to Maui Community Media and AARP, aimed at enhancing connectivity and digital literacy.
• [28:07] A National Highway Traffic Safety Administration message is shared about child passenger safety emphasizing strict enforcement of seatbelt use for children.
• [28:51] Jason plugs another KAKU program, Oh Connections, which explores Hawaiian and Latin American cultural traditions and music.
• [29:29] He reiterates the listener-supported nature of KAKU and encourages donations to maintain the station’s programming.
• [30:17] Returning to the show’s core topics, Jason discusses the worsening homelessness situation on Maui, describing visible camps along main roads, the logistical challenges of moving encampments, and the need for emergency declarations to expedite solutions.
• [31:47] He shares perspectives from homeless individuals about the lack of shower facilities, limited access to gyms, and the lack of welcoming spaces, highlighting the social isolation and infrastructural gaps they face.
• [33:46] Jason critiques the overreliance on tourism, the traffic congestion along limited roadways, and the scarcity of public beach access due to hotel and timeshare developments, calling for more diverse and sustainable economic development.
• [34:31] He introduces the topic of Hawaiian sovereignty movements, noting ongoing legal and cultural activism related to the Hawaiian Kingdom and sacred sites like Mauna Kea, which will be covered in future episodes.

1. 1. 1. 1. [35:15 → 40:38] Hawaiian Culture, Development, and Sustainability

• [35:15] Jason previews upcoming guests involved in Hawaiian cultural education and activism around Mauna Kea.
• [36:53] He reflects on Maui’s development since his arrival in 1988, lamenting the loss of public access and the dominance of wealthy landowners controlling much of the land.
• [37:40] Jason calls for responsible agricultural land development and urges prioritizing affordable housing before building more luxury homes, emphasizing the importance of housing for local residents.
• [39:20] He advocates for innovative housing solutions such as building vertically to preserve open space and encourages learning from successful global models.
• [39:58] Jason reiterates the mission of the Maui Arts and Music Association to promote sustainability, culture, and environmental education, emphasizing the need to reduce tourism dependency.
• [40:38] He warns that the current trajectory is harming tourism and pleads for community advocacy done with love and respect to protect Maui’s future.

1. 1. 1. 1. [41:21 → 58:27] Music, Hope, and Guest Interview with Tiger Metcalfe

• [41:21] Jason plays a song by Lowno from Molokai, titled Unlock the Hope, which calls for collective change and personal responsibility to improve life on the islands, emphasizing hope and action.
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• [45:12] He encourages listeners to personally help those in need rather than just referring them to overburdened agencies.
• [45:59] Jason shares another heartfelt song by Lowno, reflecting on themes of loss and healing.
• [49:08] He plays an original song from 1976 that tells a story from his own life experiences in Los Angeles, hinting at plans for a movie based on this music.
• [51:41] At last, Jerry “Tiger” Metcalf joins the show as a guest, and they exchange greetings.
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• Tiger has a reputation as a fierce advocate and community figure.
• [52:49] Tiger describes his ongoing research into homelessness by living among the homeless population, comparing himself to journalist George Plimpton who immersed himself in different experiences.
• [53:59] He praises the current County Council and Mayor Victorino for supporting his efforts and outlines a multi-phase plan focused on security, sustainability, and housing solutions for the homeless.
• [55:01] Tiger emphasizes the need for safe, secure campsites with proper sanitation and access to showers and toilets as immediate steps toward stability.
• [56:04] He explains plans to establish nonprofit organizations to support homeless services, increase funding, and provide direct cash assistance to individuals in need.
• [56:32] Tiger highlights practical barriers such as expensive IDs and car registrations that prevent homeless people from accessing services and advocates for reducing these costs.
• [57:30] He believes that drug addiction is a smaller component of homelessness than socio-economic factors and self-esteem issues, underscoring the need for systemic change.
• [57:56] Tiger invites listeners to follow his work via email and plans to present his findings and strategies to local government, signaling ongoing engagement and advocacy.
• [58:27] Jason closes by thanking Tiger and the audience, expressing optimism for progress in 2020.

1. 1. 1. Overall Key Insights

• Maui faces significant challenges with homelessness, housing affordability, and sustainable development, compounded by tourism pressures and limited infrastructure.
• Active community involvement and leadership from local officials like Mayor Victorino are critical, alongside grassroots efforts exemplified by advocates like Tiger Metcalf.
• Building a local creative media and film production industry is promising but currently hindered by workforce shortages and lack of training opportunities.
• Cultural preservation and Hawaiian sovereignty issues remain deeply intertwined with environmental and social justice concerns on the islands.
• The Neutral Zone serves as a vital platform for dialogue, education, and community connection, blending news, culture, music, and advocacy.

This detailed summary captures the core themes, guest insights, and community context presented in the episode, preserving the original structure and timestamps for clarity and reference.

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they have champion self-sustainability on Maui the neutral zone is heard live Mondays at 11:00 a.m. and replayed Saturday at 7 a.m. on kak u 88.5 FM your voices now want to host your own radio talk show you can once every month kak u 88.5 FM offers an introduction to radio class at ikkaku Plaza at 3:33 dairy Road in Kahului this introduction to radio will get your feet wet and show you what you need to do to get started interested call us at 875 five-four for more information and registration Jason

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Schwartz would like to sincerely thank David Bryan for his support David was founder and head of school at new Road School in Santa Monica California and as the board chair at the Ojai Foundation and on the board for brave new films the neutral zone has heard live Mondays at 11:00 a.m. here on kak u 88.5 FM the voice of maui and again on saturdays at 7:00 a.m. as well as on TV and on Maui neutral zone dot-com good morning this is Jason Schwartz this is the neutral zone welcome to our show [Music]

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sympathy watch his hand [Music] please leave you nature of Gill’s the jaws and his ministers they just with dog ha a world all true my game Wow I played a little more of that today because we had the time that was a fun song to sing I was over at I was gonna say Maui Community College University of Hawaii Maui college and I was taking a class on studio production with a Joel Katz who’s a terrific musician and has a studio himself seaside recording studio and there was someone in the class that

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was doing sympathy for the devil as the song they wanted to record and they asked me to sing I had a lot of fun with that you know today’s guests we had a couple of good choices Jerry Metcalfe Tiger Metcalf I saw him a few weeks ago and he really wanted to be on and I have not been able to get in touch with him and he didn’t get back with me so it looks like he’s not here but knowing that was happening I reached out to one of our former sponsors who’s still a big sponsor Richard Dan who is a

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common alone cash for gold down in Wailuku I think he’s here 47 or 48 years in Wailuku and has seen Wailuku develop in the way it has or hasn’t if you will for many years and I wanted to get his opinions about what’s going on right now with that parking structure and potential building will vol the news about the people angry at what’s going on there I thought to talk to merchants and people who have been in Wailuku and are heavily invested in looking at this solution for many many years I lived in

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Wailuku for nine and a half years and I also was part of that in fact I did a a television show about a Charette a meeting that took place where architects and lawyers and people of all kinds and persuasions got together and talked about it in small groups and but their ideas together a lot has been looked at over the years and I think a lot of the things that were planned are involved in the solution that we’re seeing that is beginning to develop there he was another guest also I placed a call to

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our mayor Victorino I know we had a busy week last week we had fires big fires little fires they seem to just be general known as Maui fire the whole place was ablaze highways were closed we had a thing up here that was supposed to be about the fish pond and ki8 that got canceled last minute we’ve had you know there’s been a lot of burning burn burn burn so we’re happy everything well I think almost all of the fires are out there’s still some burning and smoldering going on I wore my hat this

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way because I was really doing it for my guests and also for the last so three weeks I have had an opportunity to be a production assistant that means you’re not in the Union so you don’t get to touch the cables or touch the camera or touch the lighting here at ikkaku when we have a product and production you know we become the everything or we have some people that do come in and help and we’re always looking for more trainees and volunteers please know that but when it comes to a television production this

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was a reality show that I’d never seen called temptation island temptation Island is a show where I don’t know if it’s four or six couples that were interviewed of course by producers and stuff before six couples that aren’t sure whether they want to be with each other forever but they love each other and they just wanting to test their relationship what happens is they take the husband’s put them in one house and they put the wives in a different house and they have double that number

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of single people of the opposite sex obviously attractive people to be a temptation for the men and the women and then they record those interactions and share them in calculated way they have bonfires they call them with the spouse and things evolved and the number of people kind of gets boiled down and then they see if those couples want to stay together or not so it’s a it was an interesting thing and speaking to the producer the word producer is very very easily used there was an associate

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producer there used to work here got a met who was there and there was a there are a few people that that were there that saw me on TV here over the years that was nice but there’s a very nice group of people and they shared with me about how they develop the story and how they shape it as they’re going to keep those characters true to honoring themselves but they let the story still be real in the action that takes place it’s very interesting and there’s a lot of hanky-panky going on but I guess

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that’s kind of the point is the temptation something that is something some people that kind of an interaction I know here on Maui polyamory and couples that have outside of marriage and relationships you know I exists but in this show that wasn’t the case but it was a very interesting I also learned that production assistant is someone who drives people from the hotel to the set and gets an opportunity to I had an opportunity to really get up close with people that play different roles in the production and it was a

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very good education that was the reason I originally went Brian Kohn who most of you and he was a guest here but he is he’s the director and writer of kuleana and get a job and he had a most recent he’s shooting another movie as well he’s the head of the creative media department at the college and he knew a lady who is the line producer who was hiring staff and they gave opportunity to students of the college that wanted to that were part of this program to have a job I saw a couple of the people

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there but they didn’t really last the whole time this was a standard 12 and a half hour day it doesn’t sound like something that was that appealing but it seems that in the television industry 12 with a half hour for lunch is the standard and it took me a couple days to get used to it but once you get used to it it’s okay and it was just a whole lot of fun a whole lot of Education and I really recommend it I think that people that are going to the college that are in creative media ought to get hands-on

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and realize and experience being in the field in production I know that the people that are there in production tell me almost without exception that the schooling doesn’t matter it’s the work that you do on a production that gets recognized and manners I know that as our world is growing there’s post-production things involving computer and enhancing images and creating worlds and all that stuff I’m sure is a whole different part of the industry then what I got to see here over these weeks and I’m sure there’s

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room wherever those jobs are from I can tell you that at the college I went to the CareerLink office and they are heavy in culinary arts and tourism and hotel and the very little other work that they try to hook up the kids at the college too once in a while they get a broadcaster opportunity they said that comes from one of the major stations in a Wahoo but I thought it was really important and I still do that we develop more work here so I’d like to see more people step up and develop a stronger

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work ethic to learn an industry that wants to come here they even hired people for camera and other more specific positions but had to bring people in from the mainland because they could not get people here to stay on those positions so I’m hoping that you out there in our audience that are interested in this kind of keep checking it out not only through ikkaku but through the college and if you have any ideas or anyone you know that is in that industry you’re welcome to call me eight oh eight

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eight seven four fifty nine hundred or email a team Aloha to icloud.com or get in touch right here at ah Kaku or kak u radio or any of us because uh the way we can develop an industry is have people that can fill those jobs there I had tried to put a studio together here a soundstage for Joe Rossi Maui babe lotion had a building there on his property and the one that was then that I met actually the location manager and equipment guys Paul Eamonn and Glen Beatles who were involved in in this television show

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temptation island in that they were doing their role it was great to see them but again more available people here on our Island there were people from Oahu and Big Island that came over one person I saw from Kauai the wonderful fire guy from here who was the head medic kepala it was here him it was really such a nice group of people it was very warm I felt a lot of Aloha from them some of them shared that they’d like to feel more Aloha from some of the people that serve them there on the west side I think it

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might be a gentle note to the hotels that they need to you know we know that the Kaanapali Beach Hotel is quote considered more famous for its Aloha spirit that has gotten recognized even when George Bush the first was our president and I thought it was interesting some of the restaurants were crowded and weren’t as accommodating as some of these people might like but we can always get better and I know that everyone had a great time it was so dry up there it was in Lani apoco that it was shot in two houses up there

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and I can surely see why you wouldn’t want to have a homeless community in a place with so little water and one road going in and out so it was a really great experience and one I recommend to everyone what Jerri Metcalf tiger many of you remember ran a couple times for County Council out of the South Maui seat and he’s gone through all kinds of experiences he told me he’s doing research into homelessness by being homeless I’m not sure how that looks like but I sure wanted him here on the

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show his messages were full and so I resorted to text messages to get him but he was gonna be our guest and we’ll probably have him in the future and Mike Victorino I salute you for being a very gentleman mayor you’re young out there in the field and looking over things and I think that played well and I know that you have a very capable group of people out there doing your bidding and I’ve heard you say it and I know it so you find people that you know and trust that know what they’re doing and then you

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know and trust them and that’s where your decision comes from a little different than our president it seems who hires advisers that he trusts or thinks he trusts and then he doesn’t listen to them he makes his own decisions independent that’s a big confusion but Mayor Victorino I salute you and I look forward to having you back here on the show you were here just before the election was run and you were terrific guests I bet you have a lot to say about what it’s like once you sit in the

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mayor’s seat and how it’s different than the council and also we’d like to see how you feel you’re doing

in working with the council and what things you may need I can tell you a probably the loudest thing I hear when I ask people what they want me to talk about is housing and homelessness those are two separate things and they somehow overlap but there are two separate things the condition of homelessness is rampant although you can’t sleep in your car I can’t number them but I can tell you

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from driving in the evening between Loni apoco and Lahaina and Maalaea I saw hundreds and hundreds and hundreds many many others like there were no openings in the Google and the way I was going or there weren’t people that were camped out and living and sleeping for the night or in their cars sleeping for the night so I always wonder whether thee reporting is accurate and I wonder whether some of the people that are in these positions are a little too isolated from being in the conditions of

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homeless which is why I thought Metcalfe would be an interesting guest I know people that are homeless but I don’t know anyone that’s homeless that is running or will run again and Jerry Metcalfe he is a tiger he is a fierce and interesting guy I guess he developed friendship with a lot of people he’s his stories he’s like a who’s who of stories of people on Maui in different levels if you will and positions that he shared with and I thought he’d be an interesting guest for

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all of you to and all of you to see I have had a real interesting couple of weeks maybe you can hear it in my voice I still have a little bit of a large itís going on last week I had a wonderful guest in Susie gastrin who Susie is the it’s funny say hostess she is the front desk person handles the the cameras going in and out deals with all the guests that come in to the studios here she’s really a very wonderful and lovely lady and she was our guest last week and both she and I on Tuesday independent of each other I

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didn’t know until I walked in today both of us have been sick it stopped me from being able to work the production further for the last three days of the activity that was going on and she just came back today and this has been a rough flu I thought I was a canary in a coal mine I didn’t know that she was sick maybe we both got it from that same source excuse me you know what I’m gonna do I’m gonna play a song now see if you can guess it this is a long intro and I thought it’s such a beautiful piece it

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stands by itself so let’s see if you know what it is let’s see ready [Music] [Music] here just a few changes now these players will be both guitar player may play [Music] right [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] I remember years ago years ago when the guitar players were striving to play more intricate parts rock became hard rock and the electric guitar really the Telecaster I’d have guessed many people remember Bob Dylan was booed off stage

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when he brought on an electric guitar to play his acoustic set way back when but now we’ve seen musicians use electric on acoustic all the time and all kinds of things have evolved and people would play more and more intricate parts of songs more and more guitar players learning to play fast their leads and much more intricate leads we’re gonna go on a break for our station break here and then I’m gonna come back and I’m gonna play you an example of that from one of the songs that I did I had a

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guitar player who used to play with Iron Butterfly I don’t know if everyone knows that group some of you do and he was just an extraordinary guitar player David Doran and we’ll get to hear some of him let’s take a break we got a little bit early wait a minute early but um I think it’s a good time for a break for the station I want to thank my sponsors comma I know loan cash-for-gold Naoko I Motors David Brian my brother Center for the common good he now has I thought he would retire but now you

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can’t stop someone who wants to keep doing good he’s been a an inspiration for me and some say I’ve been an inspiration for him I don’t think so but it’s been a wonderful so let’s take a station break here and see what’s up [Music] the neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to thank Maui Arts and Music Association three makers Foundation of Maui for their support since 1991 with hundreds of television shows and their maui arts and music comm website they have champion self sustainability on

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Maui the neutral zone is earth live Mondays at 11 a.m. and replayed Saturday at 7 a.m. on kak u 88.5 FM the voice of Maui the neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to thank Maui Arts and Music Association tree makers Foundation of Maui for their support since 1991 hundreds of television shows and their maui arts and music comm website they have champion self sustainability on Maui the neutral zone is earned live Mondays at 11 a.m. and replayed Saturday at 7 a.m. on kak u 88.5 FM your voiceover maui bowie smarts

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[Music] who we are back live it’s live if it’s July 15th and you’re listening to this this is live otherwise we’re either on tape you can find us at Maui neutral zone calm you can find this up on youtube you can find this on Facebook at kak u FM we actually are on Facebook live right now and it’ll obviously be up there and we’ve put it on ikkaku Maui community media I still think of it as TV and because we know that we low power station and we want to attract more people to know we’re here so we put

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it everywhere that we can I have many things I can talk about I wanted to talk about the homelessness thing it is just getting a bit crazy I know that we have limited resources but I know I see just extremes going on I mean there are camps of homeless right on the main road where they have you know 5/6 and shopping carts with a big tarp over the top with all their things that they break out in the evening to go and sleep and then they put them there the next day and then it’s moved and people are moving

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them and it’s really something I know that we have to get back on track there’s all kinds of rules and regulations that’s why I think that declaring an emergency might allow something to happen but more quickly may not be permanently but it sure would be quickly to try to find some solutions for now and I’d also like to think that there would be potential work or something to give people an opportunity to be out and doing something feel like they are somehow being productive when

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I’ve spoken to some of the people that are out there that are homeless it’s hard to just be around and have nowhere they figure they have nowhere that they can shower they’re not really welcome at the community pools although some of them to go and use community pools and some of the facilities that are available if they had more money some of them you know buying memberships into gyms but the gems are also not interested in being a place to have homeless people just hanging out so it’s been a rough

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thing I know that we could do more and I’m sure that you’re gonna hear a lot of people talking about it I look I keep looking at him over here I look forward to having a Gerry Metcalf give us a little bit of his inside look some of the other people that are homeless have not wanted to be on the show they didn’t want to be a target but I guess Metcalf thinks he’s already enough of a public figure that it goes off his chest like Superman so he’s very willing to open up his mouth and talk

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about things that may not be comfortable and people may not want to hear but I think they need to hear you know just like when I was talking about that the guests aren’t feeling Aloha spirit at some of these restaurants some of the facilities on the west side I thought that is something that people on our island need to hear and know and that the visitor industry needs to hear and know they’re kind of killing the cow over there killing the calf that or the goose that lays the golden eggs it is

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one solid two-lane road all the way up the Lahaina bypass because there wasn’t enough money I guess and they couldn’t keep going at this point it ends right at the Lahaina cannery mall so all that traffic suddenly again goes on to a two-lane road going north and south past hotel and hotel and hotel and timeshare and timeshare and timeshare and hotel and hotel it’s hard to find an open beach and when you do find it you know hard to find the place to park so we really have to take a look at what

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we’re doing and we also need to really consciously develop industry that is not tourism and we also have to consciously look at what’s going on with the Hawaiian culture and not only that the Hawaiian Kingdom there’s a whole level of activity going on that could well turn this back into the Kingdom of Hawaii you know international law has been looking at this issue for a long time now and I know that they’ve had numbers of things go on that we’re gonna bring a couple of people from the whole

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lawful Hawaiian government back on and our show coming up in fact today unrelated to the lawful Hawaiian government but surely related to Hawaiians and all of us who care about Hawaiian culture there is a major demonstration on the Big Island about Mauna Kea and a telescope that they’re trying to bring in there that these are sacred sacred sites in Hawaiian history in Hawaiian culture so Kalakaua is going to be on our show here in a few weeks who he was the gentleman who teaches Sam Kao who teaches at Maui college here

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University who was involved with the telescope issue here number of people were involved I had a a class I took over there about Hawaiian cultures Hawaii Center of the Pacific and it was really almost a blow-by-blow accounting of just how deceived and oppressed the Hawaiian people were in this illegal overthrow so I don’t know where the future will be but I know who is ruling here and no matter whose lands it is this place has to be looked at to be self-sustainable and to be honoring of the cultures that we have

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here and the traditions that we have here when I got here in 1988 and people said to me uh it’s already so developed you should have been here before I can now say that the people that are here now you should have seen it before when it was what I saw which wasn’t even really the basic Hawaii I was here the year they started breaking ground for the Grand Wailea and the last couple few hotels there in Walia and now you know the malli prince is gone and that’s all becoming ownership land the ownership by

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very wealthy people that have control of the land and very little access for the many people who live here it is really a sad to me a very sad thing that we weren’t able to do something to stop some of that kind of development but now that we’re here we sure can think about it for the future we sure can see responsible development of AG lands things that that grow things we need here and start doing things that serve the local people they I think it should be no more this is my opinion no more

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building of luxury townhomes and luxury houses until we build our necessary affordable housing both rentals and homes for purchase that are truly affordable the people that develop and could go these things necessarily can easily choose more luxury because they make more money but we could ensure that there’s been things talked about but we can structure the laws to be able to encourage that massive development of places that are affordable and we can explore building up as well as out so we

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can keep open space you know there are lots of things that have been done all over the world all over the world that are great examples for us to use and I’m sure we can develop our own models and then share this all with the world you know people are coming here and have been coming here so many years that was the basis when I formed the Maui Arts and Music Association to promote the visual art and healing art and music of these islands and the cultures of these islands and educate people about

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renewable energy and other environmental solutions that we could be a self sustainability model to the world but we can’t do it if we keep refocusing on tourism a lot of people say you don’t want to kill the tourism we don’t want to kill the tourism not at all but the tourists are recognizing that we’re killing the tourism now that’s not too good so we should take heed and take heed right now so I’m hoping that the people that need to hear this are hearing this and if you think they’re

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not bring it to their attention and please don’t be afraid to stand up with all of us to voice that we want to see a beautiful sustained Maui I don’t have to do it with anger we don’t have to deal with violence we don’t have to do it with with sometimes the divisive nough stat happens out of disagreement we can do it out of love for each other and love for our island I’m gonna play some more music now I told you I was going to play a song where David Dorn from Iron Butterfly was featured but I don’t know

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if I see that here but here’s a song this is a song written by low know who low know is on Molokai II right now he’s been there for now for years I think he’s got eight albums worth of material this was a song he wrote way back when Jack Lewin was running for governor that was a while ago and the song is called unlock the hope listen to this see if it’s the right song for now also the time is gone to made the change the time has come to Allah oh wow I stopped it accidentally let me start it again

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the time has come to make the change the time has come to unlock in each and every one of us and we must do our part we hold the visions God dreams of our hands beneath the ones we love let’s gather round and let us meet us there for you and me a lock open there’s a better life there’ll be no turnin back but nothing changes unless we unlock though [Applause] the time has come to make a change but time has gone to a Pablo that lives in each and every one of us and we must do our part we hope the

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visions God dreams of our hands can heal the ones we love let’s gather round and let us make the stair for you and me [Music] I love the hope there’ll be no turning back but nothing changes unless we are but nothing changes unless we unlock though [Music] but nothing changes unless we [Music] Oh [Applause] unless we have one though [Music] unless we unlock unlock the hope nothing changes unless we unlock the hope we got to have hope we gotta have heart and I think we do have heart and I think every time you

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see someone that needs help help them don’t point them down the street to some agency that will help them those agencies have plenty to do and surely I’ve spoken to people these agencies are overburdened they need more help to be able to help more and you know with with the times we live in I think it’s time to take it all very personally and all get up and do your own helping here’s another song from Milano this is again I want to say a Western song that he wrote a long time from the time he was 19 till

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24 he wrote about this song the gods of to see she goes on free man it’s just and it hurts the nine from the morning that she said goodbye and then went on inside wasn’t only bride is pain without that I miss that I’m falling again sharing his sunshine he watched the day go by still hidden inside he couldn’t say how he felt and he cried for the first time as she went on and there the bride she would be from the morning man he said goodbye inside was a lonely bride is pain without the healing

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that I’m this red roses you yes it’s you [Music] from morning that she said to five inside was allotted crime is paying without the [Music] the more money said goodbye and some wasn’t lonely drive is pain without the healing that I’m you boy and that one as well as the last one were recorded in Renato Kwas Kony’s studio in Kihei years ago again that was me singing the reason I’m playing these because we have I have rights to them and I want to be sure that I stay within the the narrow guidelines were playing

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material that we don’t we don’t that we do have rights to and green light to this next song though this song I swear it was written in 1976 by me and the guy named on gear and this was in Los Angeles in fact there’s long story that goes with this but this song is a story in itself and we hope to see it as a movie let’s see what you think of this song you hope you’ll get back to us and give us some word [Music] when I lived out in the country I used to dream money – me and Mike

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Margeaux came out to LA [Music] Morrow was waitress it’s in car we kept it all together pretended we were stars [Music] movies and I was singing we would go to make Billy place called Stardust whoa [Music] in the spotlight from the cars peasant on there the royalty engines [Music] people and we play keep coming they would standing all our names out loud and bear Gus to leave an affair good scene last fall I stopped that so and that Stardust Road and we can talk about that and what we want to do with that that is a history

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but my guest has shown up I am so thankful to have him here we’ll have them for a full show this is Tiger Metcalf say hello to the audience your audience is there you’re the same audience but we both have cameras here maybe I’ll put you on in a second everything maybe I don’t see on screen you can come around over this side with me and smile once for a second come by every woman here we’re gonna come over here there we go I see you I see you learnin see up there oh yeah that’s us that’s the cat

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wherever the camera is it’s somewhere looking at us this is Tiger Metcalf how are you well you’re a little late but little a bit worn on a pillow in Kona I’m trying to make another acquisition not to the Metcalf family and to the estate looking at one of the other bars over there and I know they called it possibly making it like a kind of another eight Bale whole suit you can call it Jason’s that’s not a good name I was thinking about maybe a quarter twisting twisting place but how about

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Tigers we’ll look at something in key here behind those uh those pawns there by in between uh I think it’s safe way and Long’s there I’m gonna reserve a spot near anything I’m going to put another one I try to duplicate the yellow cell icon ISM that’s been going on and with the great belief that the people have of my management style and that is fun and debauchery and and good food so well you know I was letting everyone know that you do research different than anybody else

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when you say homeless you jump into the pit and you live it so that you’re you’re what they call like George Plimpton you get right in there for those who don’t know George Plimpton they would call them the paper lion he would go into different sports and different things and be playing right there with the big guys and take the hits and everything how is it out there in the world we got only five minutes so we’re gonna first off I I’m gonna congratulate the County Council I’m

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gonna congratulate our great mirror right now of mr. a Michael and I’m an attorney no yeah yeah and and and of course our past one mr. alan arakawa for the belief in me and different things that are going on I jumped in in that Park behind the university there behind abandoned condos and I get some surveys I’ve put together a pretty dynamic outline of how what it really isn’t what the people want and that is some kind of a security system to lock up some stuff especially a woman it’s a first phase of

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giving security to sustainability to getting him out of the homeless operation some I might say right now I got a the stats say about seven eight percent want to stay homeless so we’re in education but the ones they do it’s just because of low social economic condition and they need a chance and I need some security in regards to do that in the next phase would be into a automobile they can camp understand and actually next step of course is a great job that Kelley King and our new housing

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director are doing regarding and of course Victorino he’s on it okay we’ve got to change this paradigm we’ve got to get some housing going and it mean pull the plugs as long as it’s off the code what our sewage in and going potty and showering and being safe with a lot door and getting people safe and secure and stable and that is the bottom line I think that’s the Cara let’s see yeah it is that’s it if you want to smile at okay regulator yeah well we’re on radio TV this is

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Tiger Metcalf a lot of people have heard your name and remember you when you were candidate but you’re looking good how you feel all right I’m living a long wait only because I I’m in the kayak business Hobie Mirage systems and I’ll be franchising my operation with that I got 10 10 new companies that have been in a war okay I’ve got two of them we’re going to be a non-profit non-profit 501 seats one will be a support benefit a benefit support system that all the other agencies have

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have get these services and different benefits here what I want to do is we’re gonna support those and it back goes up with grants and keep them going and giving giving more cash to the individual because cash is what they’re very short of in regards you can get your holding you get subsides but there’s no cat even as you come up with some money and I look at deposits it’s like that big thing IDs come on let’s cut a program out here and you get these IDs down to 20 30 bucks or

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maybe even free for the homeless that’s another thing they they go in these applications at no iid yeah Lord and maybe registration of the cars maybe safety checks different things we get these people into a stable environment maybe maybe a discount and subsidize on gasoline for working people working women with these kids and getting these kids and stuff like that in these nice preschool things again you know the parents and mothers safe only one is safety to be a lock-in at night from guys from drugs drugs not too

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big component out there iPhone alright drug acts doctor gradient changes but but I am gonna change because I’m after him I’m on it I’m got a report gonna come walk to through my own Police Department of what what and who and whatever this is not in our control a today is there some bad stuff that they’re selling there’s some bad stuff that’s going on and I look at the myth epic let’s close it down you know they’re gonna be social doing of drugs and pot and Puckle

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but that’s okay you know I look at we can change the paradigm breeders way down the addition is not too big component I look at it’s just the social economic and lack of self esteem I’m a run on I don’t run in 2020 and we announce everybody the word hope oh yeah we only have like 20 seconds left you want to say goodbye first of all thank you for coming here yeah wow you will make some plans and have you that’s a pleasure you’re gonna be able to read this on Jerome Metcalf

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at gmail.com also we are releasing in the paper a little headline of where you can go to the final summit on these reports I’m ready to print I’m ready to edit some of them down I’m ready to present it to the mayor the County Council I’ve got a plan I got a planning everybody okay thank you all for joining us this is the last-minute thing we’re happy to have Jerry mechanic you so Hager and we’ll have them again thank you all for joining us and we will see you next week and if we don’t hear the

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credits just know we love you hello hi everyone look for big things in 2020 [Music]