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Jason Schwartz shares with YOU, the audience. he talks about these local elections in general and continues on to talk about public issues and responsibilities as citizens to express ourselves before and after election. Shares great ideas and direction of the future shows, with M.A.M.A. and P.A.P.A. and DMF being sponsors .10-22-2018

Summary & Transcript

1. 1. 1. Neutral Zone with Jason Schwartz (Election Season and Community Focus)

1. 1. 1. 1. [00:03 → 04:45] Introduction and Political Context

•     Jason Schwartz opens the show on a Monday morning, introducing the Neutral Zone, a program he has hosted since June, this being episode 1818.
• The show initially began focused on political guests, with the first being Nikhil Ananda, described as a trustworthy friend who holds strong values aligned with Jason’s.
• Jason discusses the importance of the upcoming November 2018 election and the significance of the candidates in local races, such as Nikhil Ananda and Linda Coit.
• He emphasizes the need for voters to evaluate candidates based on their vision for the future, especially concerning issues like GMO farming which may be important in certain districts.
• Schwartz advocates for staying engaged with all candidates, even those who lose elections, as these “losers” often represent valuable opportunities for future community involvement and problem-solving.
• He shares his perspective that government serves the people, but many solutions can and should come from the private sector, with government facilitating or regulating as needed.

1. 1. 1. 1. [04:45 → 10:47] Election Season Challenges and Candidate Profiles

• Schwartz reflects on how he kept the show politically neutral and balanced by offering equal time to all candidates when possible, especially during primaries.
• He highlights specific candidates for Maui County mayor: Ellie Cochran, an environmental advocate, and Mike Victorino, described as a community-oriented and experienced figure with a “street fighter” approach.
• Both candidates have strong local ties and differing styles; Ellie is portrayed as gentle yet passionate about environmental issues, while Mike is seen as a seasoned insider with community support.
• Jason notes the importance of voters understanding the candidates’ personalities, values, and potential to work with the council.
• He mentions that while official interviews with some candidates have not yet materialized, the show aims to build a library of content that offers voters close insight into those seeking office.
• The show has established a call-in number (808-873-4358) to engage the community and hopes to feature more voices on various topics including politics, art, music, and culture.
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• Jason announces a new sponsorship by the Maui Arts and Music Association (MAMA), which will support programming focused on arts, culture, and environmental education, aiming for sustainability inspired by his 1994 mayoral campaign platform.

1. 1. 1. 1. [10:47 → 18:52] Political Environment, Voter Engagement, and Upcoming Guests

• Schwartz touches on the contentious nature of local politics, acknowledging the complexity and difficulty officials face in serving diverse community interests.
• He discusses tensions between long-term locals and newcomers, noting the importance of unity rather than division.
• He promotes voter awareness and participation, referencing the upcoming Kula Community Association forum featuring mayoral and county council candidates, scheduled for October 8th on KKAKU radio.
• Jason announces future guests including Mike Victorino and Ted Bowman, an innovator from the mainland bringing advanced water-from-air technology, promising potential solutions for water scarcity and sustainability.
• The show aims to highlight innovative local and global solutions to Maui’s challenges such as water management, waste reduction, and energy independence.

1. 1. 1. 1. 
         2. [18:52 → 28:52] Sponsors and Broader Community Issues

• Jason thanks current sponsors: Cash-for-Gold (a longstanding local business) and the Maui Miracle Organization, which supports voter education and values-based engagement.
• He expresses skepticism about the political process and parties, emphasizing private sector potential to “trump” government efforts through innovation and responsibility.
• Jason encourages voters to make informed decisions, noting the importance of forums, news coverage, and direct candidate engagement.
• He stresses the need for compassion and better treatment of homeless populations on Maui, highlighting inadequate facilities and safe zones.
• Jason shares reflections on spirituality and community, invoking the late Jim Kimmel, a local community leader and advocate for universal brotherhood and compassion.
• He calls for more empathy and understanding toward marginalized groups, emphasizing that anyone could face hardship.
• The discussion ties into the broader theme of community healing, respect across races, religions, and creeds, and the critical role of love and support.

1. 1. 1. 1. [28:52 → 39:51] Political Reflections and Calls to Action

• Jason critiques current political polarization and the divide seen on the mainland, hoping Maui avoids such bitterness.
• He praises long-serving public servants like Alan Arakawa and Tasha Kama, encouraging ongoing involvement from elected officials and community members alike.
• He reminds listeners that political office is only one avenue for making change—those not elected can still influence positive outcomes through private and community initiatives.
• Jason encourages voters to register and vote even on election day, emphasizing the power of each vote to shape local government priorities such as education funding and enforcement of regulations on illegal vacation rentals.
• He stresses that voting should lead to continued civic engagement and participation beyond election day.

1. 1. 1. 1. [39:51 → 47:45] Vision for Maui’s Sustainability and Local Innovation

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• Jason envisions Maui becoming more self-sufficient by reducing reliance on imported water and energy.
• He proposes partnerships between private sector investors and utility companies to finance sustainable infrastructure projects, minimizing the need for taxpayer funding.
• He admits to political affiliations but downplays party loyalty, focusing instead on practical solutions and community unity.
• He highlights the need for Maui to preserve its unique culture and environment, avoiding over-development and maintaining local values.
• Jason introduces local artist and musician Lono, who writes and performs Hawaiian language songs, emphasizing cultural preservation and community spirit.
• They play a song titled “Unlock the Hope,” symbolizing the call to action for social change and hope for a better future.

1. 1. 1. 1. [47:45 → 56:18] Closing Remarks and Future Programming

• Jason previews upcoming shows featuring innovative water technologies such as the “Ultra One,” which generates hydrogen plasma for agricultural and healing uses, developed locally in Kula.
• He encourages critical thinking and open dialogue, inviting listeners to call in and participate actively in conversations.
• The show is expanding its reach through radio, internet, and planned podcasts, aiming to foster local talent and create a sustainable creative industry on Maui.
• Jason reflects on the multicultural nature of Maui’s community and the importance of working together despite political differences.
• He closes with a call for more compassion, love, and cooperation to address social and environmental challenges.
• He thanks sponsors and listeners, promising to continue providing a platform for diverse voices and solutions for Maui’s future.

1. 1. 1. Key Takeaways

• The Neutral Zone seeks to provide balanced political coverage, with a focus on local candidates and issues ahead of the 2018 Maui election.
• Jason Schwartz advocates for community engagement beyond voting, emphasizing private sector innovation and sustainability.
• Compassion for marginalized groups, especially the homeless, is a central theme alongside environmental stewardship.
• The show promotes cultural preservation through arts and music, partnering with local organizations.
• Innovative technologies related to water and energy sustainability are highlighted as potential game-changers for Maui.
• Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, participate in forums, and maintain active civic involvement post-election.
• The overarching message is unity, hope, and practical action for the betterment of Maui’s community and environment.

Transcript

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well it is Monday well I have at 11 a.m. this is Jason Schwartz you’re here at the neutral zone [Music] [Music] [Applause] please meet you [Music] [Music] that’s a funny thing that sympathy for the devil written by Keith Richards and Mick Jagger we know both of those guys from the Rolling Stones years ago and I’m hearing a buzz on my headphones I imagine that’s not on the air so I am if there is someone will come and fix them welcome to our show it’s Monday a couple of weeks before our November election

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2018 I’m Jason Schwartz this neutral zone was created this is actually show number 1818 I started and I was going to be interviewing political guests and that was in June and suddenly my first guest was Nikhil Ananda he’s my friend for a long time and he holds values that I do in fact I’ve often told him I know that any decisions that would be made that he would make he could make for me and I can trust that he will stand up for the right principles he’s in a race and his a very nice lady named Linda

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Coit running against him and you know I guess it’s very important in this election for people to take a look at our future and see that we have people that have a long vision and in taking care of important things like in that race I like Lynn but a GMO farmer how important is that well you decide how important that is and if you’re in that district that’s a significant thing and should be considered and I know that Lynn will like to do good and is a good person no matter if she’s in office or

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not and all these candidates whether they’re in office or whether they’re just you know they just lost but they a lot of them all of them have a lot to offer and I hope that we all stay plugged in including our losers because in that group of losers is probably our greatest opportunity these are people that have had a vision to make things better or maintain things or do things the way they see but they didn’t get that seat but private sector by the theory that I have going on in my mind says this

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government serves the people I’m the people if I have ideas I can bring them up and unless I want the government to pay for them then private sector can do things with others in the private sector and solve these problems now the government can shape making these things that we do better or they can them by putting things in place to stop us those are the kind of things that government does as far as I am concerned by the way you’re seeing an empty chair this is not the TV show where they had the empty chair interview

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this is I have kept this show kind of free of political things after that first show I came to understand that we were now an election season so me speaking two candidates needed equal time for the other candidates in that race so in the primary if there are nine people running and I interview one I have to give opportunity for all nine to be here so I didn’t do anything in the primary in that way and then after the primary I said well what have I been doing here on the neutral zone I could

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have been doing music it could have been doing art and talking to all kinds of people which we will be doing okay to talk about different things and I’ve been talking about things that I thought needed to be discussed in neutral for example I mean the one that comes to mind immediately to me is one of our candidates for mayor Ellie Cochran has a real problem with the Environmental Management Group and their decision to spend some millions of dollars on a project I know it was mentioned in in the council meetings and

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I know that there’s been some discussion and I had Stewart and Mike Stewart stant and Mike Miyamoto on my show I really like these guys very very very very knowledgeable and open and any kind of questions I had they were open to hear and discuss answers and find answers but then when I was looking to interview candidates for this show and I’m told that somehow I’m considered a saboteur on election stuff I’m thinking what could that possibly be because I know people that are doing things and I hear

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about things that doesn’t mean I’m in any way and in fact I’m not party to anything that hurt any of these candidates in fact my sponsor the Maui miracle org they’re over this month they were sponsors with me because they are trying to share values and they thought it important that this election have results that reflected their values and that’s why they were here but that was not anti any one fact that was Pro that candidate but the reason I’m bringing it up is I like putting all sides of all

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issues here I’ve invited Monsanto here I’ve incited leaders in the Democrat Party here I’ve invited Hawaiians here I’ve invited people that are environmentally friendly here I’ve invited people that are running political groups here and will continue to show all sides of issues because we the people our one that means this political thing that’s going on is secondary to something that makes sustainability possible because we’re all involved it’s sustainable for everyone

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there’s so many issues I mean I looked at the Maui news article that was written about Ellie and Mike those are our two candidates for you don’t know Ellie and Mike Ellie Cochran and Mike Victorino running for mayor of Maui County you might be in New York listening to this and you didn’t know that or you could be anywhere but we have two candidates both of them I mean what’s the difference one is an open advocate of environmental things and other things and is um I want to say he has a street fighter type of

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act going on in the way she is and the gentle side is there I have opinions about that but that’s another day another story but still she is standing up for what she feels is and I believe is really important things that we can do to make this a better place and I have a lot of ideas if someone would would come and ask me but that’s second story Mike Victorino Mike Victorino has been here again many years old you know Ellie’s here 53 years or 50 I don’t want to make the to old and she’s born here

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and raised here and and Mike Jenna came from the Big Island and he’s been here and has a great family and obviously we all know he has a successful couple of sons and he’s got a successful wife and a successful life himself and he’s known by the community and he is there for the people and he has local values as he views them and others that view him you know as old boy network some people say some people actually say that about Ellie Cochran which is interesting I hear all kinds of stuff but I don’t

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like to bring all stuff up but I know one thing Mike is open and listens and I think Ellie is – so where is the difference that’s for you to really look at and make a decision who’s gonna work with our Council this seats are here by the way because I’ve made an invitation to Elly which I guess still hasn’t officially been turned down in response to my email but I do know that um I asked them to put it in writing and I haven’t heard back from Mike Victorino but I know that importance is based on someone

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making it important and that’s you our listeners as time will go on and we’ll look at the shows that I have done and I’m doing now you will see I’m building a library I think the library that is going to give people an opportunity to get up close and personal with people that care about all kinds of issues that have answers and ideas some are in authority to make some of those things happen alone some of them need help and support some of them just need a forum to be able to put out important things and we have a

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phone number here that you may not yet realize but 8 7 3 3 4 3 5 8 7 3 3 4 3 5 808 area is ka k you call in line that doesn’t mean I know how to answer it yet but we have a call in line and we’re gonna have you know when shaggy jenkins was on before i knew we had a base of a listening audience now we have a recorded program i think i don’t know where in the mainland it is but um very good shows in fact very controversial subjects and things that are current going on but i don’t know who our

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listeners are here monday morning so we’re gonna be developing a base of listeners and we’re gonna be continuing to talk about issues but we’re also going to talk about art and music and culture the new sponsor i have for the next three months season is the Mallee Arts and Music Association mama and it’s known by a couple of things it’s known as mama Maui Arts and Music Association and it’s known as Papa mama and papa people aligned in positive action Mama and Papa are the dream makers foundation

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and what it’s chartered purposes the reason I know is because I was the executive director of it for gosh 27 years and we have a new executive director Paul bravery knew for a couple of years but we’re gonna sponsor and we’re gonna be showing off art and music and culture and educating people about environmental solutions so that we might create a self sustainability model sort of modeled after my 1994 campaign for mayor now we could have gone left and we could have gone right we went left well

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here we are another crossroads you got Ellie Cochran or Mike Victorino trying to be mayor if we are involved it almost isn’t as significant to me and maybe you can tell me otherwise I’m happy to hear from you either here or otherwise but here at 8 7 3 3 4 3 5 but with whoever is mayor and they’re making appointments in making decisions we also have a council nevermind we’re now gonna go further than that but that council has a potential to stay the same create incredible amount of controversy over

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decisions some are really very short-sighted and I don’t need to get into any details it’s not for me to point a finger it is difficult to be in an office and to be able to help everybody to be able to serve everybody but I believe that’s really what I think is needs to be shifting because the people that need to be helped have been very radical in their approach they’re very much in the face of people that are not giving them what they want they’re at the council and not voting

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the way they so it gets we get this impression from many of people get the impression that it’s outsiders or it’s newcomers or that are just somehow challenging the establishment and the way the things are and the way that they’re gonna continue to be but you know what if you look at the fabric of opinion and I have and I hear about it all the time and it’s out there you’ll see this is local people I’m here since 1988 my guest last week mark sheen since 1978 that’s a long time and granted if you’re

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Hawaiian 1978 you remember that year suddenly of the office of Hawaiian Affairs going on and you think things are gonna turn around and change and tremendous progress has happened but you’re still United States you still haven’t established anything that’s recognized and as I see it I mean there’s no authority granted by anyone that has enforceable power enforceable power power by dictate is one thing but enforceable power might take the fabric of support from the people and it doesn’t need to be an armed thing or a

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or a threatening thing it can be a support from the people and if you’ve lived here thirty years I would say you’re local you know I don’t really know what to say so this isn’t local against foreigner this is against a choice of people because after the election there’s gonna be people that say well it would have been better if we had these people voting for us we’re gonna have lots of time to talk and do and I say that and I mean it cuz we can do as private sector here we’re gonna do we’re gonna turn to our

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would like to thank the Maui miracle dot org to their support the Maui miracle org a source of information for Maori voters can be found by visiting their website at the Maui miracle dot board the neutral zone heard Monday live at 11:00 a.m. and again Saturdays at 7 a.m. on the voice of mouth a aku 88.5 FM [Music] holy youth service directory is online at 8:08 youth comm we envision Hawaii where all youth are connected to the support they need to walk upon a path towards health happiness and abundance

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808 youth comm is a free easy-to-use online directory funded by the office of youth services if you’re looking for a family-friendly event check out our events calendar and connect with us on social media find us on Facebook Instagram and Twitter and now an our Kaku forum alert in preparation for the looming general election ikkaku will air a special forum presented by the Kula community association which will feature the candidates for mayor and for county council the forum will air on October

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8th at 8 p.m. and will continue to run throughout the election season visit ikkaku org or call eight seven one five five five four for further information oh good this is Jason Schwartz here at kak u 88.5 FM the voice of Maui I just got a text thank you Mike Victorino Mike Victorino and next week possible sorry can’t today well I gave Mike a last-minute notification again and in fact that’s good so next week next week we have a guest that I’m sure will be happy to bump a week he’s a visiting guy

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from off the island who has local representation his name is Ted Bowman and that’s a company that you’re gonna hear more about tsunami products how about a product that can create water from the air well we heard about that before but now this is now perfected technology so if you live let’s say a place where you can’t get water lines in well what about taking water from the air and being able to get 25 125 gallons a day that is small that’s the small unit and that would handle a house Wow

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you mean and and wait you can also take care of that by solar power so that means we have power and we have water and we can take care of all our waste and from flushing it down the toilet to any other waste we have and eliminate that that means a self sustainable living potential what would happen if but to be discovered but maybe we can leave our fields the fields maybe we don’t have to build in places that we really don’t want to build maybe we don’t have to push the aquifer to the

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point of having fresh no saline water for everybody maybe we can figure out how to take the load off the waste water plants maybe these things are here people so Ted Bowman who’s coming from the mainland who was going to be my guest next week if I can shore up this thing Mike Victorino will be my guest next Monday at 11:00 that’ll be a pleasure and so I think that’s where I’m very happy to see that I took the break a little early today because I have two great sponsors cash-for-gold combline

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alone my friend Richard Dan we’re friends for 30 years for good reason he’s a wonderful man and he has been at 52 and now 98 North Market Street for many years so many years it’s like amazing to me but he’s been I want to say that the People’s Bank is such a thing I think there is and my other sponsor the Maui miracle org there’s a website that really shares values and it uses a word I really like called Los Angeles efficacious which is a big word it means just what it sounds like making

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places like Los Angeles and showing pictures of things that are designed for here they’re virtually identical with Los Angeles so and more and talks about values and Hawaiian values really great site but they’re going to be falling off our roles as sponsor because the election is over but they are a wonderful wonderful group the Maui miracle org really really appreciate their support and sponsorship and we haven’t really talked too much politics on this show because to me I don’t really care who’s gonna be mayor I

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don’t really care who’s on these seats because we’re gonna do things in the private sector that will I hate using this word Trump we’re gonna do things in the private sector that are going to trump what the government can do for us there are things that can be made very positive and profitable and social and be responsible and then we ask the government to help make it easier to do you know I that’s why I laugh when I see some of these forums we’re voting and most people they say 56% aware of people

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have gotten absentee ballots and by the time the Maui news comes out with its candidate reviews and they’re do a great job Lea Mata and the team at the Maui News out there in force as well as these other papers but I know for example the Maui news comes out next Sunday with something about the candidates half of us are already voted oh I hope people will look at these things because we have to see who these people are ikkaku does a forum there was a forum up in Kula long forum lots of candidates

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little time per candidate we all need to know who these people are I don’t know Claire Carol is doesn’t mean I don’t care too but I don’t know who she is I happened to meet shainsa Nancy I found him to be really solid guy so why should we vote for Claire Carol because the father was Bob Carol maybe what else is there is in the support and community I want to know I want you to know I’m one vote and I already voted so it’s not even important my vote now you know it’s important you out there who vote and

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also you who after the election might choose to not be involved well we’re gonna give you place to be involved here at the neutral zone because the Maui Arts and Music Association people aligned in positive action want to be dream makers and that takes you the public and you know what it costs to be a member nothing you know what we want to do promote visual art and healing art and music and culture and educate people about environmental solutions and create a self sustainability model Maui I ran on

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this platform 20 godknows years ago and you know what there are people that have that in their heart now and I speak those words right to me I sometimes sound a little robotic but that’s because I’m talking about it a long time but politics has gone on in this island a long time and they’re brick and mortar people they look over the horizon but they’re dealing with problems that are now and I’m glad we have people like that people that know how to move the plumbing around and want to be involved

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people like Alan Arakawa I see him as a very very powerful private citizen this is in my ideal scene Alan Arakawa has been a faithful servant and a no never mind individual politics but he’s been serving us a long time and he’s a nice man and has a beautiful wife and family and they’ve all been really part of our community I have nothing but praise about him things I’ve heard I choose not to repeat and things that maybe that’s not my department but I’ll tell you he has a lot of ideas in fact he’s running

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for Council because he doesn’t want to let go of his ideas and he has a bunch of people that he already has worked with that he knows support those ideas if there’s anything we don’t know and maybe when he’s not in office we can ask him and he’ll be a guest on our show or even if he is in office he can be a guest on our show but I’m saying these people that’s why I said before that people that don’t get the seat may be our greatest source of potential because now they

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have the attention of people and they can motivate teams of people to be able to create things that may not even involve the government that may involve private sector creating more jobs creating more opportunity and you heard me just a little earlier talking about our next guest Ted Bowman or Mike Victorino I’m happy to have him next week but now Ted Bowman is flying because the Hawaii Farmers Union is having a fair an exhibition and they are gonna have themselves there so when you see the Hawaii farmers event I’d be

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something to really check into these products that I am talking about I saw in Hawaiian homelands and there’s unbelievable things that our world has already that can already help us here locally solve some of our biggest biggest development problems and I think that needs to be really looked at by whoever is mayor and council I could go through each race and council and I might talk a little about it but here I am it’s almost halftime in our show this is when commercials were gonna be and I

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may run a couple more but again I want to thank our current sponsors cash-for-gold carmine alone at 52 and 98 North Market Street in Wailuku excuse me it’s a holiday season if you want to buy gifts 98 North Market Street they have a lot of things that are really extraordinary and they got them in trade where they gave money through born business and now they have products that are real good prices and really amazing stuff and do you know that these people that had an opportunity they could have

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sold it or they could have reclaimed it but these things are really terrific things so that’s one sponsor and the other sponsor is the Maui miracle org again an extremely lofty Gold individual who put up a lot of money and a lot of his time and a lot of his a lot of his focus to wanting to make Maui a better place he doesn’t own property here he has no anything to offer except himself and his feeling like he would like this to be not watch at Los Angeles if Akana anyway we don’t want to see

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another Los Angeles I must tell you I’m holding back on a couple of issues and they’re the main issue that I’m holding back on is homelessness and how people that are homeless are being treated and lack of adequate facility and lack of a safe zone and lack of a lot of things but the biggest thing that we all need whatever island we’re on in Maui County is more compassion and a more understanding that with a blink it could be them and not only that that these people are not less than you or I you

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know I I was listening to a show and they’re talking about a religion in fact it was I think the show on here on our cuckoo right before I got on the air talking about how religion has made its way into our social fabric and it’s changing things where you know they want to make sure that things in school get done in a certain way that have these certain religious values tied to it we have to live a true and good value that to me be the greatest way to be able to show what religion really should be draw

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no lines between religion love each other you know I think it’s funny I grew up born in 1951 and I was just at the end of the hippie thing in fact one of my friends Jim Kimmel not the guy on late-night but the guy here in Maui who was some knew him as the pot preacher some knew him as the incredible Reverend who studied the Urantia book for 45 years some known as the guy that had great sons on a beautiful daughter daughter Rachel has a gallery over here sons that are also a good part of our community they’re local

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too they’ve been here for years and years anyway I mentioned Kimmel got me off track but it’s worth it because Jim Kimmel was a wonderful and giving man that’s how I get back on track because that is what Jim Kimmel had he was a giving and loving man who helped people who helped people no matter what their station in life and he felt truly committed to doing God’s work and he he brought up and made it a point that man we all are brothers and sisters and that God is our Father and that we all are

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together as one and you know he really lived it and I must say the Hawaiian community had a lot of preaching from Kimmel he was involved and stuff with the reinstated government of Hawaii and trying to help them craft things it seems he married into a family where his great-great-great wife’s great-great-great rep was the guy named Hartwell who helped and drafted the thing that the Queen signed at the abdication of the throne so he felt an even more important responsibility but we all should love each other no matter

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what race religion creed and that surely seems to be I don’t know if it’s economics that’s making it happen or somehow people feeling not secure but the homeless and people that are in challenged need to be given more opportunity to get back on track and maybe these programs that we have now are overburdened that means that we are people we can get involved and even if we don’t get paid I bet we can do a lot of good things and employ a lot of people in new ways again this isn’t the

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time for that but it is time and that you are gonna be making choices those other reviews that haven’t voted and you’re gonna choose who’s gonna be our next mayor and council I hope you do that without doing it blindly so if you see a forum on ikkaku watch it if you read the Maui news or some of these other publications and you see what these candidates are about that’s good but those are prepared statements and those in no way reflect what they will do when they are faced with a vote or a crafting

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of legislation it’s gonna be an interesting time and a powerful time and I don’t think that it’s my role to tell you who to vote for there are others that have in fact we’ve had them on our show there was the Maui pono Network and we had a safe guy here and I offered opportunity for the Democrat Party to come on I I stayed away from candidates like again I wanted equal time so I gave Ella Cochran equal time to come on and she I guess unofficial Leakes said no but now she can officially say no or she

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can still say yes by the way we still have a little time before the election but I think Ted Bowman and he’s coming from the mainland and he was gonna be a guest it’ll be here a couple of weeks so I’m sure bumping him a week to get mr. Victorino on would be very welcome here I’d like to think that we have a half hour left I would like to play a little music you know I ran into a gal that has played here years she’s a friend I haven’t seen her on Maui for a while but she’s here you know Patricia Watson some

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of you remember that Patricia Watson played here and was a piano player and singer on Maui for many years had her family here and now she’s on cruise boats traveling the world and playing music making lots of people happy everywhere and comes back here and I ran into her and she encouraged me and pushed me toward music for me personally I guess some of you know that that opening sympathy for the devil song I didn’t really in the news that Donald Trump used that song for the for some of his rallies and

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that Mick and Keith asked him to not use it and I believe he still used it but there was a guy named Mike in my music class who needed a singer for his music track that we were doing in class at the college here by the way the Maui college here is really a top-flight place and many of you should think about going there and many of you seniors should look into financial aid and go there and get training and get things because it is a great place but Maui college I did the singing of that song and joelkat

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still cats is a great pedal steel player and piano playing guitar player works with Jimmy Mac and the cool cats and other groups of course but um in Joel’s class I sang that song and that was a demo of us doing that song and I just thought that those words were important for the beginning of this show because I don’t have any agenda my agenda is to have an agenda of openness on this show to bring all kinds of ideas and attitudes and hash it out so we can get discussion at 8 7 3 3 4 3 5 airy 808 4k

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aku 88.5 FM the voice of Maui and get your opinions and work through things so that the private sector can be approached and also step they can step up with pieces that we need to move things forward without asking the government for their help doesn’t mean we don’t want their help that doesn’t mean we don’t want people in the private sector that know how to make the wheels turn like I said those people that lose these elections are valuable and their contacts and who and what they can do and so let’s not think

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of them as losers let’s now think of them as the people who want to make this a better place and we’ll work with those that are in these seats to make sure that this election doesn’t divide us something I was gonna say editor in chief I guess our United States commander-in-chief President Trump doesn’t often refocus on he doesn’t really focus on the fact that at the end of the day it would be nice to help everyone he’s got some tough choices to make and I think he’s made a lot of

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great decisions he’s made some that I don’t agree with and a lot of them too but you know I think that I’m glad I don’t have to make that decision you know I just cannot we’ve decimated our environmental programs at a national level I am glad that the world that doesn’t give up on important things like climate change issues I’m glad that people in the United States stand up for what they know is right in spite of a vocal and voting if that vocal and voting group we can be a vocal

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and voting group here and not even as a group as individuals who thoughtfully look at these candidates and these issues and they vote like if you think we need more money for education and you think the people that are that buying and doing with real estate right and you think that we should there’s one you can vote on you can make a difference in that vote or if you think that illegal vacation rentals should have their illegal status bumped into penalties that are meaningful penalties $20,000 $10,000 is

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much more imposing than a thousand anyway I think that there’s all kinds of things that we can be involved in so look at the issues look at the candidates and be involved that means vote and I am and I talk about certain things to me the fact that we can register and vote on the same day means that right now if you out there who haven’t voted and haven’t even registered decide that you see that if you get involved your vote can help bring one of these candidates or all of these candidates that you want to do

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into office that will better help your life and the lives of those around you and you recognize that voting is important because it is the ultimate ultimate at least now here in this situation if you don’t vote your voice isn’t heard and if you vote and you don’t get what you want that doesn’t mean go home and don’t bring your marbles to the table bring your marbles to the table because we’re all playing here and we’re all playing for the betterment of all of us that’s

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who I am and that’s who I hope you are out there because I don’t think it’s important for any of us to win while others lose it that scenario and it sounds like a dream scenario we’re on an island if unless we’re gonna keep running our problems into the ocean and push those problems into the ocean and make problems for the ocean which we’ve done but we don’t have to anymore we can stop using the aquifer we can start making it self-sufficient we can start building in places where we don’t have

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to run water in my goodness gracious we can create power so we don’t have to transmit it over great distances and if the utility company would like to somehow get in partnership with homeowners and maybe they could be the ones to put up the money and the financing along with others in the private sector who recognize the financial opportunity and I want to say it responsibility you know those that have have because those that don’t have may not have had opportunity and may not have put their time effort and energy in

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like those that have I’m not denying that but there’s something called love and compassion and when we’re not on this earth if we can talk about survival on different levels of humanity because those that have recognizing their responsibility to help those that may not have as much they can still own it they can still be the financing and on their balance sheet things will go exactly like they want but they can finance the projects that we shouldn’t have to ask the people to or ask the

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people to through our taxes so if you ask me if I’m Democrat or Republican I think that I am more Democrat than Republican but here in Hawaii being Democrat doesn’t put a good sticker on your head as Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval and on the mainland the same way and with all the politics going on I think that it’s just crazy and I’m really not seeing as much value in political parties as I thought I did in the past because I don’t see it being healthy to create the divide like we see

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on the mainland and I’m hoping that we don’t have that divide here because there are some pretty bitter races on the council there are some pretty bitter races for State House and state Senate bitter bitter races but when all is said and done we all want to get the right things done I hope some of those losers who aren’t losers step up and we can create and do things and make them public and vocal in the private sector if you’ll notice I somehow I’m filling up this show with

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all this time with me talking I would like to give it a little break I’m gonna play a little music I have a friend for many years his name is lono and my reason I’m mentioning him I don’t remember the years he went to Molokai and he’s been concentrating on his Hawaiian language Luca Lele his music in Hawaiian but I know him when he was here and he was one of the few musicians who always regularly called me up to sing and we developed the friendship I first met him when I did his taxes so you know we mean

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musicians look past the surface you see all kinds of stuff many of the musicians don’t think of me as musicians because I don’t see me playing a guitar or anything but I sing in fact you heard me sing on the opening you’re gonna hear some more his a song I did this was low nose song that he wrote you heard it here part of it before here you’ll hear part of it again now was written when Jack Lewin was running for governor and Lorna was living in Maui meadows and he wrote this song and he let me sing it

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so it’s called unlock the hope the time is gone to make the change the time has come to and we must do we hold the visions God dreams of the ones we love let’s gather round and let us meet us there for you and me [Music] unlock log they’ll be no determined by but nothing changes unless we unlock though yeah I was a little clip you know I put together some little clips of songs that I like that deliver good messages and I thought that was a great song lono wrote and I think it’s true now it’s it’s very

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true we have to unlock the hope the rich are getting richer and the poor are wondering why are they serving the rich where is it serving them when there’s not enough housing I’m glad to see Mike Victorino say number one priority ground running housing and I’m going to show um if I’m sure he has lots of good advisors too but I’m gonna show them ways to do this in ways that really gonna make things amplify and make it go more quickly and so that’s gonna be fun discussion but not four on the air

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before an election because doesn’t matter if Mike Victorino wins or not Mike Victorino is powerful and has just as much power to help guide and move things people think that because the election will make a vote it’s gonna move things you bet it’s going to but we can’t stop and think of any of these people as powerless on the day after the election they aren’t let’s move forward whoever wins you know just like me talking about Alan Arakawa I hope that Alan Arakawa stays involved in fact I

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not sure what if it was strategy or just numbing after not being in office but when Alan Arakawa was not in office I maybe they didn’t hear what he was doing but somehow he dropped out of things is that because the only things thinks we can make things happen when you’re in office what about we who are not in office who want to make things happen do you think that they think they can’t do anything when they’re out of office I would like to see you out of office doing things in the private

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sector to help make this a better place I know you’ve got it in you you’re telling us every day you’ve got it in you you’re showing us you got it in you good I don’t think that being at the round table and having influence on your other votes in the round table is the place I’d like it to be and you know I was running for that seat that was my plan but I didn’t run for that seat I gave Tasha a clear shot and I think you know she’s such an important fabric of our community and she represents yet

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another Hawaiian at the table who has lived a challenging and rewarding life anyway so that’s one race and I’m jumping all over the map but that’s good because there is no map we think that when we electing people that we are making change happen know we’re placing a possibility let’s see what we can do about making those possibilities where we all all agree we’re moving forward in a good way you think that’s not possible I think it is possible and we’re gonna hopefully on this show work out some of

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those things where we have opinions from side a and side B and we’ll work it out to see where truth and we’re right is by that does sound ideal well that’s the goal and we’re gonna make that forum possible because we don’t want to attack people we want to hear their side why is this vote that you made why are you making that vote why did you make that vote not that we hear some wine in the paper that’s not enough I don’t think it’s enough I wish we had more of that right

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now before we get to vote but we don’t we’re seeing something written I’m happy we are let me bring something else up you know I’m sitting here I’m looking at another future guest I have had this thing about water I was trying to get Gladys bison on but she her office says she’s busy till after the election okay but I had a water supply I would like to get up and close and personal with her talking about what she knows and I’m sure many of you would also but there’s a

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gentleman in Kula who has made a machine it’s called the ultra one in that this machine takes water and you heard me talk about water from the air can make pure water from the air how awesome well this is taking water pure or not pure and out of it taking and extracting hydrogen hydrogen not only for healing not only for fuel but hydrogen also as I’m looking at it you know he thinks of it as something that focus is going to be the unbelievable things that can do for health this machine makes hho plasma

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which is another state of matter I don’t know if you many knew that there’s solid liquid gas and plasma but it it’s a great unbelievable healing tool but if it be addressed to agriculture and it can be used like I know it can to kill critters and microscopic critters and help other things grow better it becomes like a natural fertilizer it creates health and healing and makes us not need pesticides so there’s all kinds of potential things on our future show here and again to be introduced as maui

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county we’ll have a potentially exportable product to the world this is being created here right now in Kula how fantastic is that so you’ll be seeing the ultra one so remember that and next week tsunami products tsunami products they will hit you like a tsunami just amazing to have water and water and water coming from the air you know we’re gonna deal with a lot of things on this show and we’re gonna be talking sometimes we’ll have knowledge about what we’re talking about

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and other times some of you will say well they’re fallible well I hope that you think that we’re full of Buller going to approach us both on the air by calling us but also by coming and being a guest so we can look at things from your perspective here in the neutral zone some of you know we have a musical little piece here it goes like this here it is now this was played by Louise Langer I think that’s so funny I told her Oh Louise I just made this ball and it kind of moves it on the page and I want to

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spell the name out on the bottom so I sang it out and she played it but that’s the beginning to a television show called the neutral zone which you’re going to be seeing a lot of not only here on ikkaku and ka k you radio 88.5 FM the voice of maui but you’re going to be seeing it up on the net and I’m gonna start going into a podcast world I have some people I haven’t seen in 40 years 40 years that’s amazing to say 3035 years better top in the entertainment industry top top production people and I’m gonna

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show them that we Maui have a college that’s training people and we have a great local TV station we have places to do shows it all over and we want to develop an industry here and we’re gonna get our own people going on and with their help maybe develop that and without their help we can develop it so that we can have a local clean industry and get all our people here moving in the direction of staying on Maui when they get out of school being able to contribute to the success of Maui and

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these Hawaiian Islands and not have our talent pool our local talent pool move off Island and we’re going to take advantage of the wisdom of the Hawaiian culture and the beauty of the Hawaiian culture we’re going to all appreciate and all the other cultures too by the way we’re multicultural we are amazing place here Maui County we’re going to do it all together and whether or not we have the right people on council or not we’re gonna be finding ourselves going out and making ourselves known and helping each

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other sounds sort of like religion well it’s not religion it’s the truth we got a minute and a half to go and when I say it’s the truth you don’t have to agree with religion in any way to reach down in yourself and find out a better way to be to help someone else and I think that’s the bottom line I’m seeing this world is getting harsh and more harsh when in fact we got to turn that completely around and love each other and give to each other and help each other and employ people and give them a

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chance to live a better life so remember we hopefully will have Mike Victorino here next week please remember we got about 30-40 seconds to go this is Jason Schwartz kak you neutral zone 88.5 FM the voice of Maui and Kailua it’s been a pleasure to be here and to be talking with you and soon you’ll hear more music but here’s a that jingle again here it is it’s called a jingle Thank You Louise Lambert Thank You Maui Aloha everyone the neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to thank cash for gold mine

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alone for their support