Jason Schwartz with Danny PEKUS, (R) candidate for State House for Kihei, Wailea, Makena.

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and the incumbent fella. Correct. And um how do you fit in this movie? You are the Republican. They’re Democrats. You’re Republican. Yes. What makes you Republican versus Democrat in this race? Anything special? Um, my policies are a little bit more on the conservative in terms of we’ve got to start being accountable for money that goes to our tax money that goes into the other things that we’re dealing with in the society. So, what do you do these days? What’s your work that you do? I know that you

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told me, but tell them. I am a teacher at Baldwin High School. I’ve been a special ed teacher for 20 years. And dealing with special ed and government, you learn to negotiate and you learn to deal with a win-win situation for your students, the parents, and everybody involved. I see a deterioration in the way our schools have been managed. I see a deterioration in way our money has been spent not only in schools but across all the venues. So you uh direct money differently than has presently been I’d be accountable

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for it and I would also not not have not have an open checkbook. Who’s got that checkbook? That’s a good question. You mean by the decisions in in the state house? Yeah. I mean, a good example as far as decisions being made when you’re elected, we’re making decisions for the constituents are public here. And the thing is is it’s kind of like my union making a decision and sending out information on who they’re backing when I was never asked. So the thing is I need to I want to be

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able to go to my public that elects me with everything lay it out there and and say this is what we’re voting on and things need to be written more simplistic. So I’m going to give you a little history on your district cuz I’ve been doing these interviews third this is my 13th interview season 26 years. There was a guy here, Chris Halford, who’s a Republican, and he said, “I can’t get anything done because these guys are Democrats. We can’t agree. We can’t talk across the aisle.

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This is a new era. Kaniela Ing is a hot shot guy. Got same day voting thing happening. Uh DJ Harden working for the governor, speaks languages, sharp as attack, real capable, knows all kinds of people. They’re both really good candidates. So I don’t think that either of them would think that they throw the money away. So I’m trying to you would like to spend on education I would think because you’re seeing education has been a serious area of that’s been depleted of resources. Any other things that you

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think are important? Well affordable housing is a problem. Um homeless we’re the highest in the United in the United States. 487 homeless for every 100,000 population. I think we have more than that that aren’t declared. I mean, we But still, they didn’t declare me when I was homeless. You know, I’ve had quite a ride on Maui. Um, I mean, we curious about domestic violence is a big issue. So, so I’m the reason I’m asking my question this way sort of is. We we have a choice of choosing a

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representative in a district. And in your case, you have a district area, so you have a constituency with the local. You mentioned that you’d like to know about all the issues because you feel the spending’s been wild without any talking to you. I hear DJ talking about she’s an open door. Kaniela says it also. Have you found that you haven’t had the ability to communicate something specific? these guy. Reason I’m asking only is because I’m trying to figure out myself. I I don’t live in Kihei, so I’m very

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fortunate. I don’t vote. I love everybody equally, but I do anyway. Um I I really do. Elections are a benchmark. It’s what we can progress and get done. I don’t believe that only the elections are the way we should judge, but your specific issues are things that are really lacking. What makes you feel like you want to be in statements? Because I can I can hear you very important concerns. As a you know, I’ve done a lot of different careers. I got a masters in special education, but I got a business

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degree. I’ve owned some companies. I’ve been a marketing director on a manufacturer. So, I’ve done other things. So, I’ve seen the private sector and the public sector. And I can see how the private sector spends. And the reason they do that is because they’re worried about bottom line. Our public sector is not too worried about bottom line. They’re just worried about allocating things and trying to get things done and the our administrative costs are way out of hand. And that’s

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where I wanted to approach where we can get more money. I mean the right now the government governor wants to go 4 cents sales tax on gas. He wants to increase it. I think we got enough sales tax on gas. I think we got enough um money there to be able to do the road improvements and everything that we need to do. Maui has $43 million in money allocated for road improvements, but yet our administrative costs are way off the charts. We’re the worst in the United States. Vermont’s the lowest, somewhere in the $900 per

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mile administrative cost to do roads. Hawaii’s $90,000 3 per mile to do roads. So when we drove down Mole here for three miles, it cost $270,000 before they even got a job. I would rather see that money not be as high in the administrative factor and either we can do more roads which keep the people employed doing the roads or we could reallocate it. Obviously, I’m not going to argue their issue, but because I don’t know their issue, right? I have no idea you would. But I do know that if

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someone has costs in there, it’s not like private sector. They these guys are under probably strict control with so much increase. It’s not like there’s their money’s running rampant. We’re I don’t really No, I think we’re just we got too many people, too many chiefs, not enough Indians. I see it in the school district. The school has 2,200 positions that don’t see students. That’s not counting gardeners. um janitors, cooks, which you know see them superficially. That’s a lot of people.

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That’s a lot of people. And and half of the almost well, I don’t know half, but last year there were 30% of them that were vacant. They never put a person in that job. But with government, you have that money allocated to those positions. So, you have to spend it on something or lose it. I’m going to stop for a second because I see that our speaker is this way. So, you may be hearing a lot of music. I’m going to flip you around. Let’s see what happens. Stay. Okay. This is nice, too. Here we are. We’re sitting

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in Ruby Tuesdays in Kihei. Thank you for this location, guys. I I think they want to give us free meals, but we we’ll fight them off. Um, seriously. Um, thank you. Um, I like the idea of being careful with our money and having less administration. But, you know, there’s this thing about people and age and attrition that will handle it and slowly lower our budget by having, you know, fewer administrators and more techno solutions. Well, and that’s a way I think that’s a way to downsize the

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size of government because we I’m not saying fire a government place. I’m thinking through retirement and downsize it and then the areas that are vacated, let’s use that money for other things of the I’m sure I mean that would be my plan if you put me there, right? But I’m not going you know we still have Joe Suki for a long time. Joe Suki has all kinds of ideas. If you said to him, well, we haven’t been uh well, he he would say if if you said to him that you think money should be spent differently,

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it would be an interesting conversation. Have you spoken to him yet? I know I haven’t spoken to him. He’s an interesting man and he’s been there. Wow. He’s been there longer than I’ve been doing this. So, and then some. Um and he was MEO before. So, he So, we have a pretty conscious group. in fact a very powerful group from Maui that um work well together. I think he’s a real binding and bonding force. Um have you spoken to any of these people that are in office to really I mean I’m only asking cuz you’re

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running against like I said two powerhouses and you’re the Republican used to be Republicans would carry the day in Kihei blindly. Chris Halford would do it and all kinds of people would run and be newcomers and kind of get knocked off the box and everyone scratched their head in the place that was Democrat. Why was there this little pocket Kihei which was heavy Republican, right? Then then it was the guy with the red hair. I’m so sorry. He’s a very nice man who’s used to be a police officer.

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And then Kanea upset him. He’s been there two times. But do you feel that you could make a some kind of fundamental change that would say yes I believe in different values or something that would add to quality of our life? I I do I think the I believe that first off we should be able to educate our kids. We we aren’t doing that now. I mean we’re again we’re so topheavy. We’re mismanaged. We need to get back to that classroom. We need kids, if they can’t pass third grade

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math, then we need to fail them because we’re doing them a disservice by pushing them along and pushing them along. When you say third grade math, you mean third grade, don’t you? These kids are in high school. I teach high school and I’m doing fourth grade math in high school right now. And as a regular special ed, but the the mainstream kids aren’t that much dramatically ahead. um we get them through, you know, algebra by force feeding it and repetition. Would you say that the

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regular classes would I mean as they hear that they’re going to go, “What are you kidding me? Our kids can read better than third grade.” But um well, not technically the United States only reads a fifth grade level. Okay, there you go. We’re fighting. We’re we’re scraping the bottom here. So, but we have some kids also that excel. We do have some great kids. that we have kids that there’s some motivated motive here you just talked to. Yeah. Yeah. That’s great.

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Isn’t that fun? Yeah, that was that’s the one benefit of getting old. You see these people and they go, “Mr. Schwarzinger, oh, I had you. You were my substitute in in 1993 when you were running for mayor the next year.” You know, very funny, buddy. I think that it’s really important to put money in education at the grassroots which means where the kids are. I don’t know how to do that. Well, and I I agree with you. I think by allocating the money differently, I think K through

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third grade teachers should not have more than 10 15 kids because if the kids don’t get the basics at that level, but how do you do that? I mean, you just talk about Well, we just look at the allocation of the money we have at the upper level. How many kids do they have in class? The regular class 30 or some some of the high school class have more than 30. But if if we would to take that money and they have more lower level students and have those kids learn basic skills and behavior because the

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behaviors are run a muck at schools. We don’t have enough discipline level. I hope you can hear this. Got it. and to be able to um speak loud and and and to be able to to have them learn to have fun. Otherwise, if we lose those kids in those first three years, you lose them for the next eight. It’s hard to get them back on track. That’s why kids don’t want to be in school. And and we have things that you can help. Is it is there extra money there? Well, we have extra positions that are unfilled at the top. We have um

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how long do they have to hold that position before they put into a general fund that can get back to use at the local level and see that’s we don’t mechanism somebody knows that but we don’t know because if you look you think your two representatives let’s talk about that could miss Kaneella or Dedra actually very interestingly both to me appear to have some experience Dedra always talks about she knows how to get the governor to kick it out and also has a thing and they all have

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their own specialties. How do you get them to release that money is the question. Well, I think part of it is not only releasing money but allocating it on a regular basis to across the board. Look at the TAT tax that originally started at a 6% tax and only 5%. We just picked this time. They’re going to blend every drink they can. Free free blend. Well, otherwise they would think it’s a doctor’s office. Drilling our teeth, right? But but you’re tax. Originally, the government was only supposed to take

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5% of that 100% of that 6% for administration fees. Now, out of the 9.25% of it, the top 2.25% is taken off the top. Okay. Which is way too high in terms of administration cost. Where do those dollars end up when they’re done with them all? Well, those dollars are going to large government. It’s like big brother employers. When they have those dollars, if they don’t go there, where do they go into the pockets of somebody? Well, no, they’re like the tat taxes was originally in the tourist.

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The money would stay with. So let’s say what if we could take the money that was going to be pledged for TAT tax and allocate it visibly. Well, that’s what it’s supposed to be. Well, I’m just saying transparently do but identify it separately so we satisfy everybody’s need for transparency and do something good with it because and I I agree that’s what it should be done. I mean, you got Wa, you got Kopali, our big tourist areas, you got Honolulu, but they’re taking now 2.25% off the top.

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And what they’re doing is now they’re put throwing it in a pot, dispersing it across the whole state. See, that’s what I mean, dispersing it. That’s where I’d like to know. When they disperse TAT tax, does it go back to a general fund that goes into roads or education or if I want to or does it go into development of specific positions to accomplish specific goals? What if we could control what happens with our portion of a TAT tax? I’d like to understand better where it all goes. I

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agree. that kind of tracking. You know, when I saw your I don’t know why when I saw your shirt, I thought of tracking. There’s a guy that used to live with me. He’s a bit unusual. He’s running for state senate again. His name is Ed Picowski. And when I think of this, I think of the Tea Party and the whole thing. What is this? Why’ you wear this shirt? I I think it more towards America. I think I think um right now we’re really split. I I mean I grew up in Southern California near the Watts riots and I

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think racially we’re we’re more split now than we were then. Um I mean I don’t call myself this election in November. I’ve never seen such divisive things going on on both sides. You’re right. Well, how about the fact that Bernie Sanders is no longer a Democrat? I wonder what that does to his people that were all Democrats from going for Bernie Sanders. How does that solidify a Hillary thing? That means more chance for Trump. Well, what’s that do for Hawaii who voted for Bernie Sanders?

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Well, you know, Hawaii, we’re the tail. We never really mean much at the end. You could vote for Jill Stein. We could the state could go solidly for the Green Party, but it wouldn’t matter. Right. But the fact is it’s good stuff to uh around the dining table, but it’s the local elections that are really the most important to me. Well, the national election doesn’t affect us too dramatically except for when you know you got your senators and congressmen that go to Washington, how they get

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certain monies. Well, okay. He’s like, obviously you’re running with um certain I want to say agenda. What for someone to run is a big deal. I know from having done it and and I what made you want to run? You know, it’s funny. I um my fiance and I were talking and I said, you know, we kept saying no, no, no. That’s why I jumped in so late in in this election. But then finally we said people have asked you to run. They know my background in terms of business and working in in the schools. And they said

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we finally said how many times you get in your life you get asked to run for an office. Well that’s it. You were drafted. See now that’s a good reason. So I so we looked at it and I said you know I let’s see what we can do. I mean right now I’m I’m going against big money with with both sides there. But what does that money do for them? A little more visibility. Well, it’s more visibility and they’re going to get you guys take this thing and you email the link to all your friends in K and come

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to and put it up on Facebook and put it up on LinkedIn and share it with everyone. You can effectively compete with all the money. You know, I think print advertising is absurd. I think that it has its place, but in this day and age of the internet, this is the most powerful. I agree. I agree. Hey, don’t you want to see who the candidate is up front? See if he’s someone that you can talk to. See if he’s someone that agrees with you. Other issues that are important for you. Well, one thing

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coming from my standpoint, too, I’m think I’m more like the constituents and people that you can sit there and talk to me. You can even everybody I knock on doors to when I show them my email address and my and my um website most of them it’s funny most of them first off they want to know what party you’re you’re for email address and website but then when when they talk issues when they talk the issues then they start going wow I could vote for that well that’s what I meant but it used to be a

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Republican area and suddenly they for some reason the guy that was here lost to Conneella who walked every house. You’ve heard that story, right? I’ve heard the story. Yeah. Very good story. Anyway, but so here we are. Your ideas. That’s why I asked you what’s so different than you than these other candidates. And what that’s why I was asking it that way cuz I’m always surprised this so easily goes Democrat when it’s so confident was forever went Republican. Do you think the

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constituency has changed? Probably not. So some of the demog some of the demographics has changed some of the demographics have changed but you know that’s like I said when people ask party I I think what’s wrong right now with our voting public is this is that they vote off of one issue and they shouldn’t because everything is convoluted and tied together in some realm. I mean I use teacher acronym cuz T we don’t trust government anymore. My is trustworthy and transparency. We need everything out

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there and simplistic so people can understand it. E is education. A is affordable housing and and homeless. Homeless is a big e a I think ha homeless is a really the big one to me. Well, it is a big one, but I mean and the thing is we’re going to have all this excess land with the cane leading there. There’s opportunity there. I don’t know if HCNS would say excess by then. No, but that’s true. That’s true. But the thing is is there might be pockets for homeless and there’s models

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in other states that have worked with um you know which humanity building humanity to build homeless shelters and and then and then we need and homeless not only is it homeless an issue then you got the mental health component cuz a lot of them are not homeless out of choice. So, we got th those components and then we got to train people. Then we have the fact that the jobs aren’t giving us enough money cuz I was homeless cuz I could be working and I was homeless. A lot of them. Well, and that’s a big problem. They all mix

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together. And thank you, President Reagan. Everyone says he’s the best president. I think he was nuts. But I mean, part of that’s look at the teachers right now. Anyway, but that’s controversial or but we have a you mentioned it. It’s out on the street. There’s a an amazing number of people that don’t have a choice. They’re out on the street, right? Where’s the We got council that’s in there and people in representatives forever, as long as I’ve been doing this

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20 plus years and they’re not handling these basic problems. What can you do about that? I think a problem is that there’s if you ever look and see all the bills that they’re passing over there on Aahu, first off, you could read for days and hours reading through them and then then they they make them so convoluted. When I write a special ed IEP goal, cuz that’s what I work with is individual education. Individual education plan, it should be so simplistic that any one of us could

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monitor the goal. For example, if I write a math goal, it should say given 10 problems of fractions, additions, you will get eight out of 10, right? Just that easy. Our laws and our bill should be written not to try to throw in every exception into the law. I think it should be written simplistic and then let the attorneys prove their exceptions because then then it’s understandable. Well, again, they’re going to say we rather have check boxes on a form and have everything in the form. Otherwise, the court systems would

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be clogged with individual things. Well, I’m getting it. I’m just saying, you know, you talk about future direction. Right. Right. But I mean, I think the direction is everyone should attest that they already understand the law before they get I think a lot of the problem is that the laws aren’t understood and applied. People don’t take all this stuff personally. Well, we don’t get rid of antiquated law. It’s almost like computerized court. Well, you’re going faster than this. And

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and you know, very soon you watch. But look at the special ed bringing that up example. They they brought out for us again this year new better way to do something, but they still haven’t gotten rid of the stuff from 1995, which was the new better way. really it just government just keeps they add something on and you never get rid of it and then usually you have somebody that’s being paid to monitor that thing. Um my C I think the cost of businesses is way too high right now that look at all the

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vacancies we have in in Kihei alone. I mean Stella Blue for years have been here you know we got we the oceans is gone the theater’s gone we got Buzz’s warfoot left. Well who you you know who you going to blame for that? Well I think we need more money. No, but I think what we need to do with vacancies is we need to get some anchor tenants into these spots. And and a way of getting an anchor tenant is is like other everyone else does and it’s a formula that Sears has used forever, but

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is you give them a good tax break for 5 years or so with a 10-year contract that they have to be there. So, you’re going to start getting the taxes after five. They may already evaluate, but you’re going to start generating money. I don’t know. It’s just so much. You know, to me, what’s sad about the law is if you’re building, you build another building, you can rent it out for this per square foot, but you can’t find the tenant. So, you get to write off the loss of what it would be had you filled

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that thing. Plus, you get the depreciation on the building. Well, then you build another one. What are you building another one for? You’re right. Well, you get the write off and you get to this. But meanwhile, we have all this space with all these high numbers. We need space. We have 10,000 living in a chai. We should be doing something with my opinion with what we have. We should be doing things outside the box. And you got to bring them inside. That means changing the laws. But we need people that are

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willing to handle emergencies as emergencies. That’s why I’m asking, you know, if you want to know who my representative would be, it’s whoever is going to handle stuff because we go on forever. You know, I’ve been interviewing people. I throw some of them out because I’m almost afraid to bring up what they said and promised. There are lots of talk. Here we are. I’m now two decades, two decades I’ve been doing this. And I thought I’d do better by talking on TV. But it takes someone doing. So that’s

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Well, I’ve always been a doer. So I mean, I’ve done things. I’ I’ve been real I’ve been real loyal to every No one bothers me. The housing thing is just outrageous. Never mind that they call affordable housing absurd numbers. My last R is is regulations. Reduce regulations. And a part of the housing thing is a regulation. Look at the one in Lahina that just got closed down after years. Where did the R come from? I took HA. I move them around. C is cost of um businesses. H is health. Okay. Um

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E is environment. Again, our number one industry is is tourism. If we don’t take care of our environment, we’re killing we’re shooting ourselves in the foot. Should I mention the word GMO? Might as well. How do you feel about GMOs? Well, I think GMOs we it’s a it’s a touchy subject because we don’t want to push it so far that we’re pushing businesses out of business. Okay. Okay. I just know everyone that’s voting has an opinion and and I think I think that one’s going

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to cause you some issue. Well, I think the GMOs the only business they’re talking about clean food. We need clean air. We need You don’t mind if it’s labeled? I don’t mind if it’s labeled. No. No. A matter of fact, that’s part of the transparency of my tea. I think everything should be labeled. Okay. Not just GMOs, but I think we have a bill that we’re throwing out in front of our public. Why isn’t it on the newspaper? Why can’t the news everybody in the newspaper read it, not have to go to

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some website that after you click 50 different things, you finally find it? We are living in a very funny age. So people think the Maui News, they have an July 17th electoral primary issue. They give us this much on each candidate if you get in in time. You don’t even know it. And that’s it. And then you have to buy the paper or the thing if you know to there. No one else knows where to get information on candidates. I guess this is it. You see these forums and this is a good point just like you know it’s a

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little unusual. I mean I’m not directing questions and slamming at you. I’m hoping that you can convey to our audience what it is about you that knows that this is the secret. Well, and the good thing that I have going is that again going back to voting people voting on one thing they should look at the whole picture. Okay. I actually disagree with who they threw out there for the teachers association. They’re backing, but I talked to the president and they did that before I was running

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for office. So now I got to deal with those questions of how come the teachers aren’t backing you. Well, I talked to them and they said, “Well, if that person that they backed 3 months before I got into the race is not running, then we can look at it then.” But anyway, and so I’m just saying you all make your own decisions. You can listen to their recommendations, but make your own decisions. Exactly. You can see in this race, we have three candidates, all very qualified, strong opinion

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individuals. Now, I, you know, when I talk about it, I really mean it. To me, the question, well, whoever is going to win, it shouldn’t make a difference because I think it’s the direction of our agenda. So your the agenda what’s important to you whether you sit in that seat or not your voice continue all of you but especially candidates your voice continuing to be heard is going to make that difference and that’s the most important thing I think and that’s why I do these shows every election because I

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want don’t you want to know who these candidates are? I do. So, what things I mean I don’t know. I’m going to look at the time in a second. What is important that you want to be sure to cover? I mean, we’ve hit some highlights. Think about it a second. Give me an idea of you know your bottom line to these people. I mean, they’re they’re you’re the voters. What is it that you want? Let’s see what in what I do teaching. You got to listen. You got to assess and evaluate all the time. I think that’s

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what we don’t do in government now. people put their feet in the sand, say they’re going to do something one way and that’s it. Okay, I might get something put on my desk of being elected for you and say this is what I think should be done. But if somebody else I’m a numbers person being a math teacher and my business accounting degree and saying show me why it’s not right. And if somebody can prove to me that there’s a better way to do something, then I want to do it. But I

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you need to get it done and I get things done and most a lot of people don’t get things done. I ask questions being a teacher I ask questions but I mean the school $130 million for the school that right now is going to pencil in at $64 a square foot. The highest in the United States is $24 a square foot in New York City. In New York City though, you got to block streets and you got to pay extra hours just to get to and from work. We’re triple that. Why is that? That’s what I want to find out why. Part

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of it, I think, might be the regulations on who can bid, who can’t bid on the project. Cuz again, we’re we are a small area when you think of all the potential um builders that that are going to be bidding on that are capable of doing that type of project on the island. But um part of it it might just be they wanted to get the school built so badly that they I mean, that’s a high number. You know, they say, you know, they always take in lowest bid. Lowest bid is triple. I’m just looking at the time. Oh, I see. Oh,

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yeah. Good. We’re good. Um I don’t know. I mean, that’s a lot of stuff to look at. And and and that’s other funds. I mean, Aahu wants to take our money to build a high school over there. With those type of funds, why can’t you build two? I mean, again, that’s a compromise thing. I know. I I was looking at the thing today for the KA High School and they’ve got a portable put in the plans. Hold it. You’re buying build a new high school. Why would you already have a portable?

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Okay. So, it’s just there’s just not a logical answer to a lot of things. You can notice I sound like I’m just sitting here and listening. I am cuz I want you to make your decisions. You see it? You know, you’re bringing up important points and you’re bringing up points that we hope if it’s important for you, you will take the time to not only call but find out who Danny is. What’s your website? Is it say it right there? Forhouse.com is my website. You can probably see it. Can they see it in

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the back? They might be able to bring it up. You don’t even have to. They’ve been seeing it the whole time. He likes to do this. picas forhouse.com and dannyPekusforhouse.com. So you can call him and you can text him and you can look at the website and get an idea. Now, no matter what happens in the primary, which you may may have already come and gone by the time you see this, we’ll see. Um Danny Picus is going to be the Republican against either Canella Ing or Dedra Teard in the general election in

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November. Correct. Thank you for taking the time to spend here with me. I appreciate the opportunity and I want to thank again Ruby Tuesdays for having us here and um now we want our food hot and it’s nice to see some of my old students that work. That’s really funny. So that’s neat. So you are, you know, when you go back to school, let’s say you don’t win. These kids are now all hip. This is running awakened them to politics. I guess you’re going to be the good shining example that you

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got to get involved. I and and I’m I’m trying to get them involved. I agree. And the kids need to understand that some of them are going to be running the state. Freedom is a participation sport. You don’t just sit on the sidelines and hope someone else is going to do it the way you like. You do like Danny did. You’re involved and you put your voice out there. Very important, right? Yep. Yep. Am I forgetting anything? Anything that you know you’d like to say and you’re going to go, “Oh, I wish I told

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him about that.” Um, you know, there’s just so many things that we got to deal with that I just don’t want people to vote just because there’s an R or a D by some back of somebody’s name or because they’re a teacher and they’re only going to vote for teachers choice or they’re some they’re contractor only going to work for vote for that because it all interties. I mean, if we get our vacancies filled here, that’s more money for the community in terms of just

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general tax sales and and tax money and also the money supply as it flows within the community, not counting more employment. So, it’s it all works interchangeably and education comes down to a lot of it cuz the more and higher the education is, the more people get paid. I think, you know, in the 1800s it was a big thing for families to give an eighth grade education and then and and then you got to by 1950s and it was a big thing to have a high school education. Now we’re getting to the

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point where you need a 2-year or some type of trade school. So, we’ve also got to look at the possibility. We got to look at the possibility if we’re public money is going into high school, maybe it goes into two-year schools at that point. And then kids are on their own because at least they’re they’re going to be start getting educated to get a higher paying job and in Maui on their own. It’s very funny thing here on this island. What’s going to happen when we all make $15 an hour? The

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price is going to go up. We’re going to have things made in the USA. You won’t be able to buy cheap stuff at Walmart and Kmart. It’s going to be a new world. Whether Donald Trump makes it into our presidency or Hillary, we have to do things right here. Oh, never mind you other minded characters in the presidential race. It’s important what we do here. So, each of you that watches this, share it with someone else if they live in KA. Mo the better. Mo better. Uh but um a matter of fact, I use bad

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pigeon to get my students attention. Do you? Yeah. Now I I stay away from it. I We’re leaning on his family and friends. He has a nice big banner here, which we’re going to show a cutaway. Let’s see. There it is sitting on the table. Um you’re really a family guy, really down to earth and um easy to talk to, too. Thank you. And um you can hear he has students here at Ruby Tuesday, part of our community. Thank you for coming down and thank you for sitting with me. May uh good things happen for you. I

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appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Pleasure. Thank you for joining us and join us again. And uh aloha. Aloha.