JASON Spills The Beans! 2019 Retrospective…

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Jason Schwartz commemorates the last 55 shows.  Jason spends some time going over the guests he has had on the show since things began here and the reasons why.  Show is an effective table of contents to the last year of shows and points as to why… retrospective 8-19-2019

1. 1. 1. Jason Schwartz (Maui Arts and Music Association)

• [00:00 → 02:25] Introduction and Show Concept

Jason Schwartz opens the show, expressing gratitude for the Maui Arts and Music Association and the Dream Makers Foundation of Maui for their long-standing support since 1991. He introduces “The Neutral Zone,” a radio show broadcast live on Mondays at 11 a.m. on KAKU 88.5 FM, with replays on Saturdays. The concept behind the show is to create a space where diverse voices can be heard without conflict or hostility, initially intending to tackle politics but evolving into a platform featuring a wide range of guests with community involvement. Schwartz emphasizes the inclusive nature of the show, aiming for civil dialogue and collaboration.

• [02:25 → 06:47] Scheduling Challenges and Future Direction

Jason discusses the challenges of hosting the show at 11 a.m. on Mondays—a tough time slot for guests due to their busy schedules. He reflects on past guests who were unable to appear because of conflicting commitments, such as involvement in significant cultural events like Mauna Kea protests. Considering these difficulties, he contemplates shifting more toward television formats and podcasts, which might better suit some guests and broaden audience reach. There’s openness to adapting the platform depending on sponsorship and community feedback.

• [06:47 → 11:40] Guest Selection and Show Philosophy

Jason outlines his approach to guest selection, focusing on individuals passionate about their causes and active in Maui’s community. He highlights that the show’s direction is shaped by the guests themselves, who bring diverse topics and perspectives. Among potential guests mentioned are Leo Who, a community leader involved in courses about abundance and intention, and Susan Teton, who was preparing to travel but represents the type of engaged voices Jason values. He underscores the show’s goal to showcase local activists, thought leaders, and change-makers who are invested in positive action.

• [11:40 → 16:20] Highlighting Past Guests and Content Themes

Jason reviews notable past guests from the previous year, emphasizing their contributions to community discourse and activism:

• Deborah Greene, who spoke about environmental concerns like 5G and smart meters.
• Jeff Murray, a retiring fire captain with community insights.
• Ron Fogel, who works on homelessness issues, addressing systemic gaps in healthcare and shelter.
• Sam Small, a dedicated advocate researching Maui’s social and political issues.
• Steve Rose, hemp industry pioneer and founder of the Maui Hemp Institute, discussing the evolving perception of hemp and cannabis.
• Brother Brad Kossman, a homeless advocate involved with Keep America Beautiful initiatives.
• Paul DeLauriers, leader of the Maui Pono Network focusing on values-driven activism.
• Nick Drance, passionate about preserving Maui’s cultural integrity amid development pressures.

These guests collectively cover a range of social, environmental, and political issues critical to Maui’s future.

• [16:20 → 20:52] Government and Community Leaders as Guests

The show also features elected officials and public servants:

• Elle Cochran, a former council member known for bold leadership.
• Ricky Helm, recognized for budget management experience.
• Alice Lee, a dynamic council member and former mayoral candidate.
• Plans to invite current mayor and other council members for dialogue.

Jason expresses interest in involving private-sector leaders like Chad Goodfellow to foster partnerships between government and business for innovative community solutions.

He also mentions Nelson Armitage, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the reinstated lawful Hawaiian government, who discusses sovereignty and indigenous rights, reflecting the show’s commitment to cultural and political issues relevant to Hawaiians.

• [20:52 → 24:44] Community Foundations and Environmental Issues

Jason highlights guests involved in community health and environmental stewardship:

• Lisa Darcy, founder of the Share Your Mana foundation supporting homeless and challenged populations.
• Stewart Stanton and Mike Miyamoto from Maui County’s environmental management offices, discussing waste and environmental policies.
• Robin Knox, an environmental researcher specializing in wastewater and regulatory issues, emphasizing the importance of upholding national environmental laws.

These interviews emphasize practical community challenges and governmental responses.

• [24:44 → 27:11] Sponsorship and Community Engagement

Jason thanks David Bryan, a supporter with a background in education and filmmaking, for sponsorship. He stresses the importance of funding to keep the station and show alive. He also promotes local conservation efforts such as coral reef protection campaigns by the Maui Nui Marine Resource Council and others.

The show encourages listeners to support KAKU as a listener-supported station and introduces related programming like the “Oldies Time Machine.”

•    [27:11 → 34:18] Review of Past Shows and Community Collaborations

Jason recaps earlier interviews with environmental leaders such as Rob Parsons and activists like Oku Kapoor. He reflects on his experience covering special interest groups and community activists, expressing a desire to bridge gaps between different community factions and create inclusive solutions.

He discusses plans to feature private-sector leaders to explore how business can contribute to solving social problems like homelessness, leveraging government incentives and partnerships. He acknowledges the importance of collaboration between sectors.

Jason also points to the dynamic environment at the Akaku Media Center, where the show is produced, noting the energy and potential for future multimedia projects.

• [34:18 → 41:24] Expanding Community Voices and Topics

Jason continues highlighting a mix of guests from various fields:

• Councilwoman Tasha Kama (unable to appear but participated via call-in).
• Advocates for hydrogen energy and health revolutions.
• Sam Small and Lucien DeNaie, noted for their ongoing activism.
• Beau Hawkes, a controversial but dynamic political figure discussing systemic issues.
• Jim Loomis, a Maui legend known for wisdom and community-building efforts.
• Melinda Gohn, who leads the Peace Poem Project and Dr. Martin Luther King peace poetry awards.
• Albert Perez, director of Maui Tomorrow, focusing on sustainability and future planning.

This diversity of voices illustrates the show’s commitment to broad community engagement.

• [41:24 → 48:16] Cultural Arts and Media Development

Jason introduces guests involved in arts and media education:

• Brian Kohne, creative media instructor at University of Hawaii Maui College, known for films like Get a Job and Kuleana.
• Barry Wurst, mass media and film instructor with international experience.
• Suzy Gastrein, a prominent local media personality.
• Keith McCreary, a cartoonist and Waldorf educator with roots in 1960s San Francisco counterculture.
• Gary Leavitt, director of Maui Choral Arts Group, involved in local performing arts collaborations.

He discusses plans to integrate arts, culture, and technology to build a vibrant creative industry on Maui, highlighting the potential for global outreach and economic development.

• [48:16 → 56:42] Social Programs and Personal Stories

Jason highlights programs like:

• Boys to Men, led by Duane Elliott, offering support and mentoring for young men in schools and prisons.
• Brian Murphy, a medical marijuana advocate and clinic operator.
• Joan Hartfield, author and spiritual sex educator.
• Lisa Darcy’s Share Your Mana foundation’s work with homeless and challenged individuals.
• The importance of personal stories and programs that foster healing, connection, and empowerment.

He emphasizes the role of storytelling and community support as foundations for positive social change.

• [56:42 → 57:23] Closing Remarks and Future Plans

Jason wraps up by encouraging listeners to explore past shows on YouTube and the Maui Neutral Zone website, stressing the interconnectedness of the network of guests, sponsors, and community organizations under the Maui Arts and Music Association umbrella.

He reaffirms the show’s goal to be a platform for “people aligned in positive action,” fostering collaboration to address environmental, social, and cultural challenges on Maui.

Jason thanks the audience, invites continued engagement, and hints at evolving formats and time slots depending on community needs and sponsorship.

1. 1. 1. Key Insights

• The Neutral Zone serves as a community forum for diverse voices on Maui, focusing on activism, culture, environment, government, and social issues.
• Jason Schwartz aims to bridge sectors—government, private business, nonprofits, and grassroots—to foster cooperative solutions.
• The show embraces multimedia approaches (radio, TV, podcast) to reach wider audiences.
• Guests represent a broad spectrum: elected officials, activists, artists, educators, health advocates, and indigenous leaders.
• Emphasis on sustainability, cultural preservation, innovative social programs, and arts as economic engines.
• The show is listener-supported and seeks sponsorship to expand its reach and impact.
• Collaboration under the Maui Arts and Music Association brand is a strategic effort to unify community efforts and showcase Maui globally.

1. 1. 1. Outline of Topics Covered
2. Show Introduction and Concept
3. Scheduling and Format Considerations
4. Philosophy of Guest Selection
5. Profiles of Past Guests (Activists, Experts)
6. Government and Civic Leaders’ Participation
7. Community Foundations and Environmental Issues
8. Sponsorship and Listener Engagement
9. Review of Past Shows and Community Collaboration
10. Expansion into Private Sector Partnerships
11. Diverse Voices: Social Activists and Cultural Leaders
12. Arts, Media, and Education on Maui
13. Social Programs and Personal Narratives
14. Closing Remarks and Future Directions

This detailed summary captures the extensive scope of “The Neutral Zone,” highlighting its role as a connective platform for Maui’s community-driven conversations and initiatives.

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[Music] the neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to thank Maui Arts and Music Association tree makers Foundation of Maui for their support since 1991 with hundreds of television shows and their Maui Arts and Music calm website they have checked in self-sustainability on mouth the neutral zone is heard live Mondays at 11 a.m. and replayed Saturday at 7 a.m. on kaku 88.5 FM your voice of Maui it’s 11 o’clock on Monday I’m Jason Schwartz your host we’re here at the neutral zone

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[Music] [Music] [Music] his hand [Music] please [Music] good morning everyone I’m Jason Schwartz were here on kak u 88.5 FM the voice of Maui and this is the neutral zone where we’re anything but neutral or here we are a neutral zone you know when I started this show it was a concept about this son of the zone where everyone could talk and no one’s better really cut each other up and I was gonna do politics and then over time I’ve had a lot of guests and I’m gonna run through them today hi then

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we’re gonna run through them today and why I had them on and where we’re going from here we’re gonna be doing more television and maybe less radio we’ll see you know radio and TV go well together sometimes 11 o’clock Monday is a rough spot to get some of my guests because it’s prime time which is why we had it before and the reason we chose this originally was because shaggy Jenkins our then program guy hostess host with the most who’s on another radio station now of

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course many people know shaggy well he was on every day and so at 11 o’clock we were getting assigned shows and I thought Monday would be a good day it has been good but it limits some of the people like I was just looking outside one of the people I want as a guest who will be on Lucy and the the name who has her own show here at the Akaku TV crossroad she’s got a show every couple of weeks and she’s been doing that for years she’s a wonderful champion of things in our community she was talking

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to Harry donenfeld another guest he had a meeting she’s getting ready to testify and getting a post in about water we’ve got all kinds of things and people that will be here on radio and TV but 11 o’clock Monday may not suit so I may switch this at the end of this and go to TV format and we’ll see where it all goes unless we get sponsors that say oh yeah you should put those on at 11 o’clock and then they promote it and we’ll see to be continued but I want to go over what I’ve been

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doing with you guys and what many of you have been doing back to me this last year this neutral zone was really I like to say a new cover on the same book I’m still Jason Schwartz who 25 years ago ran for mayor as the Green Party guy and now people are saying maybe your ideas you’re just in time before we maybe we’re all ahead of our time but you know the world has to come to a place of critical mass where ideas are heard and where people recognize that they are the solution you know you’ve heard it if

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it’s gonna be it’s gonna be me you know who are we looking for we’re waiting for it’s us it’s just our awareness as it’s getting there well I’ve had a really wonderful time doing these shows and like I say our guest next week is a council man councilman Shane Sinenci who is going to be a great guest we were gonna have today ka moku Kapoor but obviously he’s involved with Mauna Kea and the Hawaiians and their quest I guess a lot of people not only Hawaiians its quest

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of many many people to be sacred at the top of the mountain on the next Island over here anyway so we’re seeing where things go but 11 o’clock Monday we’ll see I’m suddenly hearing like a vibrator go off I don’t know what that is anyway they’re probably working on something here in the building this building which is in I guess it’s called the akaku Media Center has not only television production and has a read this radio station kak you it has the for attendance here and things are

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changing and it’s got a beautiful solar system outside they must be working on something anyway I don’t know if you can hear it or not but I’m gonna continue on anyway I’m just really feeling like when km oku couldn’t make it I thought okay who do I want so I called the Kalakaua and he’s busy also obviously these guys are very busy then I said who would be in the right same theme so someone said what about Leo who so we contact Leo who’s our file until tomorrow so she’ll be a

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guest I thought let’s see Leo who how about Ljubljana Luana gaudiness is teaching a course about abundance and and a very wonderful 40 day program and power of intention and but she’s gonna be on gutsy women another show here on kak if she’s gonna be on this Friday with Amara st. John so why was I thinking what am I gonna do for today and then I said well that’s about a I spoke to another friend who talked about Susan Teton I tried to get Shan satsui but he didn’t get back to me

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ed he’s the guy from my PO know we’d like to see him here and uh and then Susan’s getting on a plane so I thought well let me come on and talk to people about what’s up because I’ve had guests and sometimes they seem like they’re all over the map well I’m a neutral meaning I am I keep myself pretty relaxed about the direction of the show I know that my guests really create the complexion of what we’re going to talk about and if I can get them comfortable they’ll talk

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about their passion and these are interesting people and so over time I’ve brought you people that are active in some way doing things in our community that’s another thing for me redoing you guys know me showing off others tada I feel like Vanna White from what’s that show that’s Joe the spinning show anyway that’s very funny but but I have a lot to offer and things that I want to do and so I want to start talking about them and bringing people on and doing them both here and in television to be

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able to bring the neutral zone and show it on TV we’re showing some of our radio shows now with this is show number 56 or 7 next week and then we have a Labor Day so it’s a good time for a transition for me so we’ll see where this comes and if you’re on television you’ll say oh it’s just another show if you’re on radio you may see us in a different time slot or you may sing things shifting a little bit so be it but that’s why we created that logo that red dot red dot that

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bounced them with a lightning bolt because everyone wants to you know kind of break the bubble but I think that the the bubble can’t be broken because the bubble is love if we come from a place where we all drop all our differences and come together now we’re gonna solve everything you know and that’s what we do here I mean I’m looking over here and I don’t see it says Kak you maybe it says it over here doesn’t it you know it does it does well you know I have enjoyed being on this radio station

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people have said well you’re Jason you should be doing this as a podcast a radio station is like we have radio station here called kak u FM 88.5 FM and if you’re within sight of this radio station and I don’t know how far you can get 88.5 FM there’s a program that I have on my Apple phone I imagine it’s on the windows and Google’s it’s called tune it now tune in it’s free for me but many many stations including this one make themselves available so you can press and

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favorite and press that button and get kak you anytime but surely Monday at eleven at this point Monday 11 well but people have said you should Jason you should do a podcast and you know that’s the direction it maybe that’s the direction but I feel part of this family it’s just a matter of working out the logistics and making it make the most sense but we have been determined to bring on good guests I’m going to show you some of these gifts again and I’m running this because I think it’s

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important that you see that these guests are all chosen because they have I think something to say they’re all different and available in putting themselves on the line with their opinions and not only their opinions but many of them take action which we’re gonna do we’re going to show you how mama which we’ve been talking about Maui Arts and Music Association and Papa people aligned in positive action that’s the next piece you’re gonna be seeing and that’s what’s

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gonna be activated here but you’ll see it because you’re part of it anyway and when I started this show my first guest was Nikhil Anandi and then I realized they had to have equal time for all candidates so I went to values and the first thing that was in my face was Deborah green Deborah green was talking to me about the dangers of 5g and smart meters and that was a June 18th of last year the 2018 and then I had met through merit guy in our a mankind project group I went up to his Hawaiian halawet he was

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working and dancing with and met Jeff Murray a retiring fire captain and he was a wonderful guest wonderful guy then I spoke to a guy named Ron Fogle who’s helped people that have been homeless to straighten out some of the incredible things that they’re constantly still happening with homelessness and with people that have like a cut that becomes staff and they don’t have a hospitalization or medical they go to emergency most often they’re not taken in as patients they’ll let out

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to the door while they’re sick and injured it’s a real big problem that was Ron Fogle he talked that was a really interesting interview all of these are on Maui neutral zone calm I have them and that’s where I’m looking actually but they’re also all on YouTube you can find them by my name in Maui neutral zone in the name of the guests but no Sam small has Maui causes Sam has been dedicated to making our community better and he has a lot of fire he’s very talented guy has done a lot of research

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and really um I want to say overturns a lot of stuff I used to say you know that what Pondy Noguchi told me Bundy is through now statue he told me you know we don’t look under the carpet there’s a lot of stuff that happened here in Maui in the past Sam looks under the carpet anyway good guy he was on our show and then we had Steve Rose who runs the lipoma farmers market he’s also the founder of the Maui hemp Institute and all the uses of hemp and things that have been going on still inter can’t

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deny it’s been in our world how many you remember when it used to be you know controversial now it’s really getting less and less controversial and more and more openly beneficial it’s a very interesting transition that we even have this less than an eighth of an ounce or kind of a thing for Hawaii where it becomes a ticket rather than a jail kind of thing that’s a that’s a whole thing that was Steve is on but again CBD and hemp is a different thing than cannabis and marijuana but we had that was we had

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Brian Murphy on talking about that I also had brother Brad Cosman who has been homeless has worked with jammed a patent and the the Keep America Beautiful project has worked with homeless people in formal and informal things helping more than dozens and dozens of people in different situations that couldn’t get into homeless shelters or had difficulties that didn’t fit in parameters you know we have a growing and so he was on and then I had Paul DeLaurier who ran the Maui pono Network he still is I’m sure Paul is a very

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dynamic leader who was also a very interesting interview then I had Mick grants we’ve had the Maui miracle dot org as a sponsor they were one of our original sponsors here during election time in fact he he is still a very passionate guy Nick Durant and the wanting to see to the best of his ability that Maui doesn’t get shafted and lose its mana and not be respectful to its host culture and to turn it into a Los Angeles if occation as he calls it we had a couple of interviews with Nick that one was way in in August of last

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year well then I was talking about the elections I’m see we’re almost getting to break down we had an election we had Ellie Cochran who was on Council and very dynamic leader on council doing rather bold things with a quote more conservative council one that took action but took action and conservative slower steps often deferring and studying more than taking action kind of council will hope to have some of those people and and other people like I really like Ricky he’ll come I look

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forward to having him here I haven’t followed too closely on things but I liked him I saw him grow from Peru key to a seasoned guy who’s had major experience nationally and internationally with all the mayors and also has done a real good job here on being real tight about budget well now with all the things happening and all you have ideas we’re gonna have a fun time talk talking and Alice Lee I remember when I was running for mayor Alice was running in the primary against think of maybe was that year or the next

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that she ran against Kimo upon in the primary but Alice is a very dynamic both council member and former mayoral candidate but she was also in Department of Housing human concerns she’ll be interesting to have on and I look forward to having you keel a sugimura on and Mike Molina on the show but but those are people that are in government and the mayor I hope the mayor will grace us with this time and presence you know these guys have other media that run after them so we’ll see how and what schedules meet I’d like to

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meet private-sector people here like Chad good fellow and other people in the community that have resources and assets and run some ideas by them that we could do together and encourage new and dynamic solutions where the government follows in their creation of something as an incentive that we in the private sector can propose and do well we’ll talk about all that as we go along but anyway and then I had after that show nice love time nelson Armitage who is the Minister of Foreign Affairs for the

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reinstated lawful Hawaiian government was on and we talked about sovereignty rights in the future in the spirit of Aloha we hope to have Nelson Armitage again I hoped this was going to be a week really given to honoring the situation up there at Mauna Kea you know I’ve seen many forms of people people with flags my lady friend area as a piece of jewelry with a pearl and the umbilical cord of all the babies that were born that were buried up there and representing the mountain there’s a lot

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of people that have really honored that situation that’s what we were gonna do this week so um you can hear and the kind of guests I want Leo who Ryder is such a beautiful and wonderful leader you know someone who I want to say crosses though all the bridges whether her friends are ROM das or whether she’s going to the UN or you know will Hawaiian groups or unity or seen her all over the all over here in Hawaii and her music and she’s got a wonderful partner made Dean who I also think is just

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really incredible lady um anyway she’ll be gone but Nelson Armitage is up was on and he had someone with him we’ll have him again Lisa Darcy now Lisa Darcy has share your mana it’s 11:20 well we’ll be on a little more then we’ll take a break now share your mana is Lisa used to be the head of a foundation that was sponsored really by Peter Martin and are there on the west side and Lisa was trying to get good use for homeless people to have different kinds of solutions on the west

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side and there were different questions about where these things were and and what it would do in a community and whatever but Lisa’s been very committed to helping people that are challenged whether it’s be homeless or have health challenges she’s work different places in the system so she has a foundation that she works through co-chair Yamana foundation we had her on way back in last year she just had a concert yesterday that Neerja new Jeff Parsons and her choirs did as a fundraiser for

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Shyam anyway we also had Stuart Stanton Mike Miyamoto who were at the county department office of economic and environment really the office of environmental management the crap and the trash and now we have new people there we’d love to get them on again maybe that’s a great interview we can do again with TV and different times we can go and do different coverage when we had mama presents we’re gonna do more shows this year we’re gonna be doing sages of our ages you’ll hear and met Jim Loomis

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a couple of times Jim is a great example of a sage of our age or other people who are really important to have in a spotlight we hope to have that show and be roaming around all these under the brand of mama Maui Arts and Music Association and Papa people aligned in positive action well we are going to be talking in future about fundraising cooperation between public access TV and mom you know we have projects and the way that all this can work and how it can all work together and use the branding of art and

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music valley arts and music and people aligned in positive action to be dream acres and showcase to the world all the art and the culture we can raise a lot of money so that the the places for venues don’t have to have as much expenses because we have global excuse me attention and cash flow dollars and they’ll see what we can do here through cooperation and some of these people on the show Stewart Stanton Mike Miyamoto that was a very very good interview that was 9/10 of 2018 now both of those guys are off

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doing different things but we’ll visit them again I’d like to and then and also the environmental management department Robin Knox she was a researcher is researcher and certified qualified environmental professional and her specialty is war honor and she was on talking about all kinds of stuff including the wastewater issues and we’ve heard that of late of how the the piece many people want the county to lose on a suit so that there’s no diminishment of a national law that restricts environmental polluters bottom

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line that’s a really good show but you’ll hear see talking about that robin knox very very smart lady very nice lady a lot to offer and now these are people that again they still exist in our community that’s what’s so great about this we’re not we’re doing it here i’m showcasing people but for a reason and i’ll continue and show you how this all ties together we’re going to go and get to the sponsors and then come back and i’ll show you something else here watch the

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neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to sincerely thank David Bryan for his support David was founder and head of school at new Road School in Santa Monica California and as the board chair at the Ojai Foundation and on the board for brave new films the neutral zone has heard live Mondays at 11:00 a.m. here on Kak you 88.5 FM the voice of maui and again on saturdays at 7:00 a.m. as well as on TV and on Maui neutral zone comm get a jump on protecting Maui’s coral reefs no need to wait for Hawaii’s new sunscreen law to

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well we’re back I’m Jason Schwartz and we’re at the neutral zone you know I’m reviewing some of our past shows and I’m going from number one I’m now up to 14 we had Robin Knox see Livie Lily the researcher and water scientist really important then who was next then had Rob Parsons now Rob was the environmental coordinator I imagine he could still be the environmental coordinator here for the county of Maui and global environmental conference he had just come back with Rob is a very talented

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guy and very wonderful guy I know him and his wife Heather for oh gosh at least north of 20 years maybe 25 years way back when and Rob’s a really heartfelt guy and he’s really been a cornerstone as our former mayor Arakawa kind of put his direction into environmental in my mind he really relied on Rob Parsons and I hope that he’s still a very valuable part of that team things always in our world and then I had a guy on who was gonna be on today actually came okuu Kapoor who was running for the ojas seat he has so much

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to say and he’s always got so much to say really I think him of him as an important leader in the Hawaiian movement I hope to have him on again in some place whether it’s TV radio or however it be podcast we’ll see where we end up but we shouldn’t say end up because we’re doing it right now and then I had Paul delaurio the the the pono Network guy we did an interview and we talked about values that was interesting also again the when I think of those groups I think of them as special interest groups

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even though I believed most everything that they were talking about I didn’t like the fact that it felt like it was alienating others who in my mind just didn’t understand the issues or they would they would be very hard pressed to be voting against those things so I always found those special interest groups to be pointing out problems because they couldn’t get movement from people in the seats well this is still before the election so and then I had mark Sheehan mark Sheehan had a group

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called safe mark has been an active realtor but he’s also been an activists about all kinds of public issues environmental ones can’t even think of the number of issues where mark has been a champion here and stood up in the face of really strong opposition but he’s really been a backbone of the environmental movement here along with others and you’ll see them here in the show and some coming to like when I think of that I think about Lucien denied I think about al Perez Luciana’s

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count up Al was already on well here there’s a guy named Michael Victorino 29th of October now we can take a look at what Mike Victorino was promising and what he was thinking about then and you know Maui neutral zone calm has links there to all our shows they’re all on YouTube and we hope to see all of these shows as a resource so you get a chance to now look back in our history and use this as a gateway in a doorway to the new things that we’re going to be doing on TV and on the net and podcast but um

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we’re not sure I want to do music so that’s the direction I want to go but I want to get these shows going on with music and art there’s a a West Maui business they’ll be on here soon I there’s a guy named Trevor who has the fuzz box which is a recording studio on the west side of Maui and I’ve watched how they’ve done productions and been involved in television shows and gigs at the Mac for years so I’m looking to coordinate with them and other people for numbers of these hotels and large

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venues both in the west and the south there’s a lot coming up but and many of the people that you’ll see in these shows are participants and will be participants in this the more that we all see what this is and say yes yes yes the more the big sponsors will rally the the locations will become available and this whole plan can come together so it’s nice to see we’re speaking to Victorino when he was talking about what he was going to do and why him now being mayor would accomplish certain things

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that he couldn’t do as a private citizen let’s find out let’s see how he can help us as private citizens do more of what we want to do like we want to make homelessness go away let’s talk to people in the private sector maybe on the show here to show them how they can be do things and how we can get tax credits and incentives from the government to encourage these private sector people to do the things we need to solve these problems I know it’s doable and I think that many of you know it’s doable let’s look at

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some of these people you know are you I’m looking at the time I have plenty of time the I think it’s funny that the people that were out here Lucien de neige was meeting going to meet Lauren pang from the Department of Health because she’s going to be testifying about water I wanted to talk to Lauren pang about bringing him on the show and he’s busy on Monday mornings and here he is with Lucien and and how are you as that this place is just beaming with stuff I want to start being

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part of the next piece which is putting our teeth into getting some of these things done so we’re going to view people and continue that format but we’re gonna also bring people on who were private sector who have the capacity to get some of these things done and can suddenly align with we the people aligned and positive action that’s what this show we hope is going to take to the next step and that’s what the neutral zone was set up for to be able to be a format to bring all these

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great people together to accomplish things that seemed unaccomplished because there were too many sighs well with taking down besides we’re we’re trying to bring it back to doing what is right and true and I think that’s what you’re going to see so here we are I’m talking away but we got time today I like that anyway we have I there are a couple of shows where I was talking about direction there was one where they lost the pictures so you can see that one but we were talking

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about the election and then we had the after election show where we kind of debrief the election and then we had a Councilwoman Tasha comma who last minute couldn’t make it so we had a call in Colin and Donny who we spoke a good while it was really good and we spoke in that show about hho and the hydrogen and what’s happening in health and the incredible revolution in health and then we had a couple of trainees who were going to be radio station DJs you may have seen that show there they were fun

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to be on with and then I brought Sam small now that the election was over I thought to bring Sam on and we’re gonna have Sam again Sam has his own show so I don’t want to ever jump in and anyway stop what he’s doing or Lucien same way but I think that by bringing these guys onto this show we can cross-pollinate viewership on all of this and all of these things to be able to better serve the community somewhere along the line I hope to be brought into the financial loop which is why I always ask about

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sponsorship and we’re going to talk about that for sure but so here at cha was show 25 now we’re at 56 so we got a lot of shows to go then it was Christmastime and I had the Maui choral arts group led by Gary Levitt on and we had Louise Lambert peace in our hearts and then we got preempted by Christmas and New Year’s and then we had Kelly King the chairman of our County Council on she’ll be on again and we to have kyani also Keanu Rollins Fernandez and tamara paltin we hope to have all the counsel people I’m the

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mayor again but we also encourage our private sector it’s upon evil wory who’s that a great job at the model the Ocean Center that sphere is such a terrific place if you haven’t done you should go to the malli Ocean Center and get to see that sphere or marty dread i hear him on the commercials all the time for for the maui ocean center i am so happy to live in this community we have such nice people we hear them and see them on radio and on TV to pontiff or and the maui ocean center such a great location

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to hang out they have music and things there all the time that’s a great resource place speaking of resources January we had Lions may own a who’s a guy lives in Hana we all know lion has been sharing and teaching Lau lapa al not only here but in and throughout the world his spiritual direction is teaching about Hawaiian herbs he’s gone to Europe he has a beautiful life and a beautiful wife he’s a wonderful man we’re gonna have him on I think that people on our show you know we’re all

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working together so then we had Paul go tell who’s the author of a book called the big you Paul was a success in the music business in Britain a big success actually and he went on a spiritual quest in his book is a very very helpful it’s a kind of a self-help book but he has workshops really really he’s got a really nice guy very dynamic guy I didn’t even realize I had this hat on you know and here we are we were in February I had Nick trance on again nick has been passionate again wanting Maui

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not to be Los Angeles and he really has voiced himself again this one was mostly about water issues and the complexion of Wailuku I’ve seen Wailuku and the planning for men years in fact I remember when Aaron Wade before she was there maybe when she was just beginning in the planning department who was developing that downtown Juana lucu thing I think ikkaku has that if or just had that where Aaron came up and explained about that Wailuku parking situation a lot of dynamics going on there but I think we all want

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Maui to stay Maui and we also want to have what we need to have to stay current and functioning in the world it’s I think we can do it I think that you think we can do it too so so Nick was on he was on expressing himself and then I turned the corner another way I looked and I said okay what about dr. social lesson many of you watching these highways for years have seen this glass is on and off I can see the screen with the glasses without them I’m a little fuzzy but today it’s pretty easy so we

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don’t need it all the time so that’s why it’s on and off sascha lesson drives a bicycle and he probably drives I don’t want to be funny here but 15 20 miles maybe more a day he has been riding he goes to the gym also but he’s in his 70s and still fit as a fiddle but he is also a a doctor of anthropology he’s a doctor of the the world of psychology and these traveled civilizations he’s worked with homeless and housing he’s a fast-paced interesting guy still at 77 a model of health he was a very

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interesting interview and then I had Kurt Butler Kurt Butler through the years many people know Kurt Butler as the guy that has complained he was a writer and author and he did a lot of investigative analysis and this was before internet and he had an interesting time because he had a very difficult time getting his message out so we gave him a chance he wanted to talk about health he didn’t like occupant tourists and he doesn’t like alternative medicine and vitamin people who don’t put proof along with what they

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say so we heard him hurt him loudly some people agree with what he says some don’t I thought he was a pretty eloquent to what he was saying he he comes with a lot of anger and we hope to take away that anger I thought we did a pretty good job of having him on I like him he’s actually a very nice man and then we had an occupant really had Michael Howden I felt very fortunate Michael Howden I up and cool a hospital which is now managed by Kaiser there’s an area there in you say whoa there’s an

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occupant jurist here at the hospital Michael has had an office up there and has worked with doctors as an occupant tourists for pain and other things for many years he’s a really a talented guy and we had him on he was really wonderful and then we had Bruce Leonard who has his real specialty is herbs and self defense and human sexuality and relationship counseling and he this earth Medicine Institute he was a really interesting interview I think again because Maui neutral zone calm if you look David Bruce Leonard comma Jason

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Schwartz Maui up it comes if you put up a kak you Jason Schwartz Bruce Leonard occupant or plant medicine up it will come you know Brian Kohn who runs a creative media department at the University of Hawaii Maui college was our next guest brian has been the writer and director of a few movies one get a job which I always like I always remember our old neighbor Davidson del drop in his art how true to form that was like classic David’s and L in the movie and Eric Gilliam and Willie K Willie K playing a straight man and

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Eric Gilliam playing an amazing character and all the little cameo roles and and Kathy was in there oka very fun and and then he did kuleana which was a murder mystery again had its comic relief he brought in some of the same characters showed Bryan’s style and writing and now with him in creative media at the college he’s been able to bring in some wonderful people to be able to enhance his program I hope that I can still be in school to take some of the programs open that out of school

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already but Brian’s teaching one called finding your voice a storytelling course and then another of our guest Barry worst who’s a really terrific film credit she’s gonna be teaching mass media and he teaches about film and different influences from different countries and directors he was a really interesting guy the ability to put together a clean technology and industry to be able to do our radio and TV to be able to support and act from here I think there’s an article in today’s on

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that I saw this girl from Google woman who lived on Maui and worked 15 years in tech world but for years has been working virtually and being able to work from Maui so we want to build industries here and so we need school and people that know what they’re doing so Brian Cohen we had him on Barry worst we had him on both very interesting guys very willing to help and create well know that was up to show number 36 let’s go to here 37 you know we still have time I want to put it all together but I just

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want you to see and hear what we’ve been doing and we’re going to be continuing like I say maybe a lot of the same interview style like we’re doing here but you’ll be looking on TV and you’ll be looking on the net from Maui neutral zone Jason Schwartz Maui Arts and Music Association and all our people because we all tie together in this one marketing effort called momma Maui Arts and Music Association and the dream makers Foundation but we can bring in the cultural center we can

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bring in anything and everything we want together and market to the world when I started this and we started the Maui Arts and Music Association we were looking for keywords as the internet was beginning and there weren’t too many more appropriate words than Maui our music it had to do with what we had to do with it showcase that we want to show off Maui’s incredible talent to the world visual art healing art culinary art we’ve got it all here we’ve got great venues we’ve got big hotels with

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rooms we have big restaurants with rooms we have the Cultural Center we have outdoor arenas we have the Maui Film Festival we have the people like we see here with Barry and and Brian we have the stars that live on island that will surely showcase and be part of what we’re doing with maui arts and music Steven Tyler Mick Fleetwood Paul Simon now lives here but Barry worst was shown over 3738 and that we had a recommendation we have a wonderful hostess here at ikkaku and kak you Susie got strain who we had on actually and in

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a show came up but she was talking to someone who came in here named Keith McCreary and he was interesting he was a cartoonist during the 60s in the summer of love and it was a pastor of a church in San Francisco that was in the 1960s and he was an educator at Waldorf School for many many years he’s a very interesting conversation you can find that on here see we know that you’re gonna discover these shows and now and we’ll turn people on to it and redirect them to these great people and to what

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we’re all to do together that’s what we’re doing here we had Gary Leviton Gary is the director of the Maui choral arts group they have something coming up here in December 2019 I was part of a show they did and hope to be part of the next one we’ll see if I can put it into my schedule for rehearsals but they have wonderful shows and the WPA a which is the one lucu performing arts organization all the groups getting together and showcasing and talking about things together well the WPA a in my mind has a big and

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prominent part in the malli Arts and Music Association and in the showcasing and the networking of all that we’re showing off to the world Dwayne Elliot we had on next Duane Elliot is an amazing man I met him and his father Sonny I got involved with the mankind project was more than 90,000 men across the country that have gotten together and have explored what it means to be whole I wanted to don’t want to put words in their mouth but to be comfortable and have the support of other men and to be able to break

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through challenges that may have happened in your earlier part of life and to feel support and the Dwayne is running a thing called boys to men that goes into high schools and prisons as well but in high schools to be able to help boys that don’t have fathers or have broken homes to be able to sit and talk in a circle and to be able to put together a way to bring love and openness and sharing out so that was a great show Dwayne is a wonderful man he also supports a beautiful talented wife indigo ball who I know from art and

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modeling but she had a challenge and had a stroke and Dwayne has been very supportive in supporting her back to her health I bless them all the time I know that we all do when Dwayne is a really great thing in boys to man in that program that’s worthy of a listen involvement well then I have a friend named Brian Murphy who ran a clinic here called patients without time that was a marijuana clinic where people that had these medical marijuana certificates but nowhere to get their stuff their

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marijuana Brian had it and he went through some issues of the law and that was a quite a thing but Brian is super knowledgeable about all of that stuff about CBD oil about about all the different things that go along with many years in legislation and knowledgeable about it in all ways and and he’s a really talented and wonderful guy we had a chance to interview him before he left with his partner Mary to the Big Island and their adventures and then speaking of adventures Jonah Hartfield was our

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guest Joan Hartfield wrote a book called romancing the beloved but many of you on Maui know her for many years she has a partner named Tomas and they have been teaching spiritual sexual education counseling talking hearts and circles and personal journeys for years and she is a really dynamic and wonderful talented lady I met her years ago and brought her on she was wonderful and then we were gonna have chemo kale kappa hula hula who couldn’t make it so we played some terrific music and we talked

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about some of our ideas that was show 43 I assume we still have time left we still have more shows you know all these shows all these people all had something to contribute to you to me I just became a host here and I brought people on the talk but what I bring in is people who bring their passions to you and we were talking we saw some of it and we’re going to see more people I’m gonna show you how we might tie this together and try to create some of that with some of these people and others

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together and share the ideas with you whether it be here in Maui or the world whether you’re a supporter by buying our tapes or books go to our shows support our sponsors make this thing all tie together to create an engine an environmental economic engine all by sharing goodwill and cooperation not really unique ways but talking about them in unique ways and publicly creating them in ways where the government will be supporting things that we can create in the private sector many of them could happen by themselves

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but we hope to encourage and coax them we also hope to talk about issues and create things like our next guest was Bo Hawks bo ran for political office he’s a bit controversial in his own right but just by how dynamic he is we discuss system government and our society and concepts and and he’s a very interesting guy that was from May of last year but you talk to Bo it’s all current because it really is all current then we had a group that was um that wasn’t May of last year that was May of this year then

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I had a man who is an old friend of mine one of the great legends of Maui to me Jim Loomis Jim Loomis it’s just a wonderful man if you go out into well oh and you see Loomis Lane when it was a dirt road and before it was a dirt road and it was just beginning and Jim owned the property and Rico had the property next to him and and Tim was there and down at the other end was steve-o and Danya and Ric this is 30 years ago and now Jim Loomis has lived here living and been an example of someone who brought

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his great wisdom that was honored on the he brought it here and created an incredible community of people and so we had a couple of shows with Jim actually here we go look at that there’s a second show we had with Lisa Darcy I mentioned Lisa Darcy before share your monado foundation which is her foundation helps homeless and challenged people and get them better understood and help them on the road toward living more positive successful lives successful by their own standards and you know be able to

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comfortably navigate some of these issues and challenges that we have going on I can keep scrolling I had Melinda gone Melinda gone from again 20 years plus the peace bone project and the dr. Martin Luther King peace poetry Awards that she’s done in schools from all these years and she’s a wonderful teacher herself she was a fantastic she is a fantastic lady I’m looking at I see we got a minute left Albert Perez the director of Maui tomorrow was on obviously talking about important things

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about everything I was a wonderful guy and Jim Loomis again and Susie was on from the front and Tiger Metcalf and a lana kane environmental magazine teen a wild burger our counsel excuse me our representative from Kihei and and david johnston talking about a fruit festival artist savant Oh Mets next week shainsa Nancy we didn’t talk about sponsorship yet but you should look at the links about sponsorship and you’ll see unique ways that you can be evolved with the malli arts and music association with

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maui neutral zone with ka k you all of us in supporting a better island than in a better world now we only have gosh 40 seconds to go now I kind of made it through my shows and we got more guests and we’re gonna be having more guests but let’s see what direction we’ll decide after next week whether we’re gonna stay in this timeslot and what we’re gonna do on radio but keep looking for us looking for us on the web now in neutral zone calm at kak u 88.5 FM on facebook on youtube

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we’re almost out of here we appreciate and love you I’m Jason Schwartz let’s get out of here and see what happens on the neutral zone leaving you thank you for joining us Aloha [Music]