JASON starts 2025- Answers !!! … Also a few great songs

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Published on 01/06/2025 by Jason Schwartz

1-6-2025–JASON SCHWARTZ -starts the 2025 year with announcement of a soon-to-be-announcement – local solutions on important social & economic and environmental issues. Also a few great songs.

Summary Transcript

  • [00:00 → 05:04]
    Introduction and Host Background
    Jason Schwartz opens the show by greeting listeners with New Year wishes and casual references to Eddie Murphy’s comedy. He introduces himself as the host of The Neutral Zone Maui, broadcast on 88.5 FM KAKU, Maui’s community radio and television channel. Jason shares his long-standing involvement with Akaku Maui Community Media since 1993, highlighting the station’s evolution under director Jay April who has maintained a strong team and quality programming.

He reflects on recent local government meetings opposing budget cuts to public access media, emphasizing Akaku’s critical role especially after the wildfire reduced local business clients. Jason notes a planned interview with two young women, Jessica and Taran, who run an innovative art show called Gallery Without Walls, supporting displaced gallery artists and promoting Maui’s arts scene globally.

Jason expresses excitement for 2025 as a year of positive change, encouraging the integration of new energy and ideas into Maui’s cultural and arts promotion through the Maui Arts and Music Association (MAMA), an organization he helped establish in 1991. He underscores the importance of collective effort to reach community goals, citing his multiple past runs for local council as evidence of challenges in effecting change alone.

  • [05:04 → 12:07]
    Vision for 2025, Political and Social Commentary
    Jason discusses the evolving political landscape, noting the divisiveness between “red” and “blue” states in America and hopes for more cooperation and moderation (“purple” states) for healthier governance. He references global issues such as product labeling and food coding debates involving the World Health Organization and Bill Gates, contrasting them with American consumer habits and regulatory approaches.

He reflects on advances in healthcare and technology over his lifetime (born circa 1950), highlighting the vast changes from the post-war era of growth and suburban life to contemporary challenges like environmental degradation and unchecked urban sprawl. Jason critiques ongoing pollution and car dependency, referencing California’s failed efforts to curb growth and pollution in the 1970s and beyond.

Economic shifts are discussed, including the complexities of bringing manufacturing back to the U.S. despite cheaper foreign labor and tariffs, suggesting that these transitions will create financial pressures and require adjustments in consumer behavior and environmental responsibility. He advocates for a collective, global mindset rather than an “America First” approach, while acknowledging the difficulty of maintaining America’s leading position responsibly.

  • [12:07 → 20:20]
    Community Engagement, Local Politics, and Media Changes
    Jason introduces his Dream Makers Foundation of Maui, which embodies the principle that “dream plus action equals results.” He recounts his decades of media work, political commentary, and commitment to providing coverage of underrepresented voices, particularly during election cycles spanning over 30 years.

He stresses the importance of political compromise, referencing a legislator’s insight on negotiation, and notes ongoing discussions around medical marijuana legalization. Jason clarifies his personal stance as economically conservative but socially liberal, questioning why social liberal policies should be necessary given the universal need for tolerance across religions and communities.

Addressing local media changes, he shares concern over recent radio station sales to a larger corporate entity (AAM Broadcasting), lamenting the loss of local DJs and programming which impacts Maui’s cultural uniqueness. This shift parallels the broader trend of technology and internet media eroding local economies and cultures, similar to the impact of big-box stores on small local shops in the past decades.

Jason recounts his experience being “boxed out” from booking cultural events locally but remains optimistic about future community-driven initiatives and income streams, invoking the Hebrew concept of “business” as “activity” plus “miracle” — emphasizing the need for collective effort and creativity to generate positive change.

  • [20:20 → 26:32]
    Unity and Local Cooperation
    Jason reflects on Maui’s unique cultural cohesion, noting the long-standing friendships and love crossing perceived boundaries. He critiques the political system’s short election cycles that hinder sustained progress and advocates for a self-sustaining local system that can thrive regardless of national political shifts.

He expresses hope for increased cooperation and shared vision in Maui’s future, emphasizing that local efforts can serve as a global example. He mentions the tradition and challenges surrounding fireworks on Maui, suggesting regulated licensing for purchase and use as a possible solution to prevent injuries and excessive spending, balancing tradition with public safety.

  • [26:32 → 32:48]
    Reflections on Music, Technology, and Cultural Shifts
    Jason plays and comments on music from Stardust Road (1976), reminiscing about past recording processes that required manual coordination of lyrics, music, and imagery, contrasting it with today’s digital ease where computers generate videos from lyrics automatically. He marvels at technological advances over his lifetime.

He recalls collaborators like Tom Chase and Barbara Strand, highlighting a time when music was composed and performed live. Jason notes the shift from artist-driven creativity to technology-driven processes that simplify production but risk sidelining human elements.

He observes societal shifts in employment and shopping, such as automation (self-checkout lanes replacing cashiers), pondering the future of work and the need to retrain people to be self-sufficient while maintaining human engagement.

  • [32:48 → 40:56]
    Local Development and Sustainability Vision
    Jason outlines a vision for Maui’s self-sustainability, integrating food production, housing, and tech employment within a circular economy model. He stresses local control over education to address unique community needs beyond standardized testing, advocating for curricula that reflect Maui’s culture and environment.

He hints at an upcoming announcement regarding a comprehensive local initiative designed to create new capital, jobs, and social benefits on the island, encouraging community involvement. Jason shares his personal perspective as an elder without direct descendants, focusing his efforts on legacy through community impact rather than personal wealth.

He discusses the “hidden society” of isolated elderly residents and the challenge of keeping such populations active and healthy, linking this to broader housing and social welfare issues.

  • [40:56 → 50:01]
    Music Highlights and Social Reflections
    Jason introduces and plays Be The One by David Frasier, a song emphasizing responsibility, courage, and speaking out in difficult times. He notes the song’s connection to the aftermath of Maui’s recent wildfires and its award recognition, underscoring the importance of community solidarity.

He follows with Peace In Our Hearts by Louise Lambert, a song about global peace and mutual understanding. Jason stresses the urgency of peace amid rising social tensions and incidents of violence, linking it to broader cultural and political anxieties.

He reflects on the cyclical nature of political change and the difficulty in achieving meaningful reform, encouraging people to engage with elected officials and advocate for their interests to influence future votes. He expresses frustration with inertia but remains committed to finding cooperative, peaceful solutions.

  • [50:01 → 52:46]
    Philosophy on Community and Cooperation
    Jason shares a philosophy of shared prosperity, invoking the adage “a rising tide lifts all ships,” and calls for strategies that benefit the whole community rather than a few at the expense of others. He stresses that many societal needs—from jobs to social services—require continuous improvement and cooperative effort.

He acknowledges the potential to sound preachy but credits Reverend Rayfield Johnson for teaching the value of working with available resources (“mend our buckets where we are”) to prepare for future abundance. Jason emphasizes Maui’s opportunity to be a model community that balances tourism, local needs, culture, housing, and food security.

  • [52:46 → 56:54]
    Cultural Legacy and Future Aspirations
    Jason mentions local groups like the 442 Japanese veterans’ group as examples of cultural pride and historical remembrance, hoping to replace past war heroes with leaders who promote peace and de-escalation through dialogue. He acknowledges that change takes time but believes technology and awareness can accelerate progress.

He closes with a musical performance of Then I Do, a wedding song by local songwriter Lono, celebrating love and commitment. Jason shares brief background on Lono’s community involvement and musical contributions.

Jason ends the show by thanking the audience, reminding them where to find his content online, and previewing the next episode featuring Jessica and Taran discussing art and the Gallery Without Walls initiative. He signs off with blessings for health, safety, and a happy New Year.

Key Themes and Insights

  • Long-term community engagement: Jason Schwarz’s 30+ years at Akaku and in community activism reflect dedication to local media, arts, and political discourse.
  • Maui Arts and Music Association (MAMA): Central to promoting local culture, arts, and environmental solutions; seeks infusion of young energy and global outreach.
  • Political and social commentary: Advocates for moderation, cooperation beyond partisan divides, and social tolerance rooted in shared humanity.
  • Technological and economic transitions: Highlights the challenges and opportunities of automation, reshoring manufacturing, and evolving work structures.
  • Local control and self-sustainability: Emphasizes Maui-specific solutions in education, food, housing, and economy to build resilience and reduce external dependencies.
  • Media consolidation concerns: Notes risks to local culture from corporate buyouts and loss of local voices in radio and TV.
  • Cultural preservation and peace advocacy: Supports honoring past heroes while promoting peace and dialogue as tools for future leadership.
  • Community participation: Calls for active civic engagement to influence policy and build shared prosperity.

Timeline Table: Key Events and References

Timestamp Event/Topic Notes
00:00 – 05:00 Host introduction, Akaku history, upcoming guests Reference to Gallery Without Walls show
05:04 – 12:07 Political and social landscape, US divisiveness Red/blue states, health care, environment
12:07 – 20:20 Dream Makers Foundation, media changes, political compromise Radio station sales, local cultural loss
20:20 – 26:32 Maui community unity, fireworks regulation idea Balancing tradition with safety
26:32 – 32:48 Music reflections, technology’s impact on art and work Live music recording vs digital production
32:48 – 40:56 Vision for Maui’s sustainability, education reform Integrated local economy model
40:56 – 50:01 Music selections and social responsibility message Songs by David Frasier and Louise Lambert
50:01 – 52:46 Philosophy of shared prosperity and cooperation “Rising tide lifts all ships”
52:46 – 56:54 Cultural legacy, peace, closing remarks and music Local songwriter Lono, show sign-off

Glossary of Key Terms

Term Definition/Context
Akaku Maui Community Media Local public access TV and radio station on Maui
Gallery Without Walls Art show supporting artists displaced from traditional galleries
Maui Arts and Music Association (MAMA) Non-profit promoting arts, culture, and environmental solutions on Maui
Dream Makers Foundation Jason Schwarz’s community action group for positive change
Red/Blue/Purple States Political metaphor for Republican/Democrat/moderate balance
Fireworks Licensing Proposed regulatory approach to control fireworks use safely
442 Japanese Group Reference to WWII Japanese-American veterans, symbol of cultural pride
Self-sustainability Model Integrated local economy focusing on food, housing, education, and tech

Summary Conclusion

Jason Schwartz’s The Neutral Zone Maui show delivers a rich, reflective monologue blending personal history, local cultural advocacy, political insight, and community vision. Anchored in Maui’s unique context, the program stresses cooperation across divides, respect for tradition balanced with innovation, and active participation to build a resilient, self-sustaining future for the island. Music interludes underscore themes of peace, responsibility, and unity, reinforcing the show’s hopeful yet pragmatic outlook for 2025 and beyond.

Transcript

00:00
[Music] hello everyone merry New Year or as we say in this country happy New Year Eddie Murphy oh he is really a funny guy he’s uh that’s y yat that was lots of years ago when he did that wasn’t that like coming to America he had so many great movies and uh I think he’s still doing movies I’m Jason Schwarz your host here at the neutral zone Maui neutral zone.com we are at 88.5 FM KAKU the voice of Maui simulcast on akaku Maui Community media television to us old ERS but media you can uh also find us at

 

01:05
Maui neutral zone.com on YouTube if you put youtube.com/@dreammaui1.  you’ll find all our shows and you’ll find so much stuff up there you’ll say boy you do a lot of things we’ve been doing this a long time in different ways for more than 30 years I was in the first class here at akaku Mountain Community should I say the word television I guess so and that was like way back I want to say 1993 and it was not too long after that a couple incarnations of of really good

 

01:44
directors we got Jay April and he’s been here for a good long while and he’s done I think an excellent job not only of choosing really good people and being able to keep them because I I hope it’s great work conditions excellent pay I know pay can’t be excellent because the dcca which we just had that live meeting you know a few weeks ago with trying to uh stop the action of giving money back to Spectrum or giving less to uh Public Access media here and the public response was great

 

02:26
and strong and pretty well one-sided that we really need akaku here we don’t need to take away resources for them especially after the fire which diminished the number of clients customers which also reduce the overall number so it’s a very important we had guests today but that guest couldn’t make it and so last night I called someone that I thought would be on next week they still will be on that week next week two young ladies uh Jessica and Taran who are running well they’ll

 

03:07
tell you an art show with artists that used to have galleries that don’t have galleries anymore and very you know that well we’ll I’ll talk I’m sure later in the show The Gallery Without Walls when I started here and I remember when I got audited like why are you auditing I would like to have someone come to this Gallery Without Walls it was the same I only remember because the same year they were talking about Jeff Bezos has these huge warehouses with books and everyone was laughing at him keep laughing people

 

03:41
the idea of selling things online has caught on maybe you’ve noticed maybe you’ve noticed that in real estate deals they use signatures that are digital now it isn’t unreasonable to think that we can be ahead of our time with ideas and I’m glad I’m going to bring these two ladies on I hope to have them work with me and uh I want to say help the Maui Arts and Music Association be that Global brand that we’ve been talking about for 30 years but it takes young and new energy you know some of you are

 

04:18
old enough to remember when I ran for Council not this last time against Tasha and that was not it I ran 1992 94 96 and 98 98 I jumped out the whole thing was and is a giant thing that I can’t reach unless we all reach it together so I’m excited like to have young blood in the art promotion industry obviously a gallery Without Walls for people in Lina but also the whole world needs to uh Embrace solutions they can do and that’s what our organization Maui Arts and Music Association was established for so

 

05:04
this year you’re going to see all kinds of interesting things that I’m going to do I hope you’ll find them interesting you like music you like art well we’re going to be out there sponsoring and initiating regular shows that will allow for more art to be shown and purchased and portion of everything go into Mama for Environmental Solutions you’ve heard me talk about it but this year I’m adding a new element and that element is until all the licenses are done I’m not even going to really speak about it too

 

05:37
much but I am really excited because 2525 is definitely an exciting year to be alive we are going from the United States of America to the um the two sides of the States of America it’s interesting when I hear the the Democrats and the Republicans talking about red and blue States and they say well well there’s a couple of spots of blue inside of this mainland of America I’m convinced that the the people of the red spots that’s the Republicans in time will see that things can be accomplished by taking down the

 

06:28
walls and mix ing red and blue and then we have purple and purple is a health color very much healthier I’m happy to see that we’re going to see something like that that maybe we’ll get some science and get out some of what has been it’s hard to say what’s going to happen the World Health Organization and uh Bill Gates and all that’s talking about the coding of all our produce there’s so many things that are fighting the uh I want to say natural sanity when most of the world I mean most of the

 

07:10
world and all the countries ban products that have different things on them and in them and here in the United States we’re draggon and we’re huge consumers it’s very crazy but true that you know they’re owned by Americans sold to Americans and we’re dying like Americans too we’re having operations we have great Health Care Systems and we’re improving our quality of health care now you can when you have a problem with a knee or a hip or your heart’s good they just put in new pieces and

 

07:49
um can’t even believe in the kind of time in my lifetime I was born in 1951 let’s round it off and say 195 50 well in 1950 that’s 75 years ago so yep you’re right I’m coming on 74 in April but 75 years ago technology we had technology we were out of the the Dark Ages we were out of the covered wagon stage we had automobiles going on and the second world first world war happened Lots in between by the way way and then the second world war and then wait a minute we got out 4550 technology started to be gripped

 

08:39
and the love of and convenience of a lifetime of a house and a car and a picket fence and a couple of kids or more and going to church and living this Progressive productive happy life then we kept having kids and we kept having more consumer and more cars and more of this and more of that and there used to be beautiful open space we didn’t think much about open space when living in I was living for New York we had some lack of open space for sure but I lived on Long Island we could drive 10

 

09:23
or 15 minutes and be in rural New York if you will out on Long Island and then it started to fill in and then after college when I moved to California and they had a law that they had to change the law because La was supposed to have change their environment and stopped the great growth of cars and pollutions that was 1973 four that was wow I moved in 73 so imagine they pushed it back to 1980 1990 I think they keep pushing it back or it’s it’s unin I guess pretty much unenforceable or if

 

10:03
it is enforcable someone that’s enforcing doesn’t feel it’s that important because La is crazy wait a minute so is most everywhere because that growth has kept happening and now we have a new president who after we as a country took advantage of cheap labor elsewhere so that we could make our products and build in more I want to say greed it really is greed the price of our products when you look on some of these uh other systems to see what does an American dollar buy for $9 you can buy a fancy pair of shoes

 

10:47
and slacks what am I talking about you can buy that for $4 $ what a mini camera that they charge 59 49 when you buy 10 of them it’s 39 you can get them for three what’s that now we’re going to think about making things here in America well let’s see if the companies that have to do it are paying a tariff that’s higher so they’re going to get it from somewhere else they’re still going to be able to get products from somewhere else way cheaper than this ramp up for most of the things that we

 

11:27
need in our world so it’s not going to be that quick to solve this problem and it’s going to cause a lot of financial pressure to people that are used to all these things and uh maybe we’ll learn to have less cars and we have to have pollution controls coming and we now are wait we’re not in that thing with the world we because why again America First America First in a world where together how about the world the world first we are first we’re not going to lose our position of first

 

12:07
we can do it responsibly though and I would like to think to talk to the wisdom of everyone in that one all of us can be personally responsible boy I’m on a rant today well that’s good I have time our guests that um aren’t here that’s going to be another show but there’s a lot of things happening that um I thought that the licenses would be through and I’d be announcing it here but very important this 2025 you know I’ve been Dream Makers Foundation that’s a name I don’t use

 

12:45
very much Dream Makers Foundation of Maui but a dream plus action A Vision Plus action can make a result and you know I’ve been in a studying process since 198 88 when I got here but 91 when we formed the Maui Arts and Music Association and started giving it all kinds of various names appropriate dreammakers Foundation of Maui Papa people aligned in positive action and I’ve done a lot of stuff you’ve seen me doing shows now for years on akaku Maui Community media about all kinds of stuff

 

13:23
much of it almost all of it except some of the earlier stuff that I you know when you have to copy hundreds and hundreds of shows into different mediums to then transfer them up to the web slow as an individual there’s probably six or 700 of my shows up there um I’ve been really fortunate just that there are a lot of people that would like to speak about all kinds of subjects that don’t get coverage often on the main media they kind of limited me understanding that during political years when it came

 

14:01
to doing shows but I would do interviews I haven’t done them in the last I did a couple couple of people ask me if I wanted to do shows but I’ve been doing them for 15 16 election Cycles that’s 32 years that’s a long time and um some some are the same people still that were there then and um there some of them are still trying some of them are not trying quite as hard you wonder I I think everyone goes in with a a plan to make a change and then they go into the realities of politics and see that it takes

 

14:44
negotiation one gentleman who made that real clear to me was Joe Suki when he was on our show one of our shows um he talked about the fact that you really learned to compromise and that that being be really important in being a legislator some of our legislators are um doing that and are very Progressive out there a lot of more things going on that are behind the scenes someday they’ll uh make medical marijuana and regular marijuana legal and all the other different aspects of that still being monitored but legal that’s fine

 

15:26
the I that’s is me talking you know someone said you sound like sort of like a an economically conservative guy well if they knew me personally they wouldn’t say that but economic conservative policies with socially liberal policies and I firstly Wonder socially liberal policies why do any of us especially Christians Jews [Music] Muslims most of the religions that are common in my mind why are we hurting each other why are we even thinking of needing a social liberal isn’t everyone shouldn’t we all

 

16:10
be tolerant of everyone I’m just looking at the clock I am glad I have glasses because we still have a lot of time we have glasses those of you that want to hear me talk you’re going to have to wait a little bit this is K kuu 88.5 FM the voice of Maui also found on akaku Maui Community media channel 55 you can find us at Maui neutral zone.com you can also find us on YouTube youtube.com dream Maui and the numeral one some of those other dream Maui channels are going to be used real soon for other things so uh you ever notice

 

16:53
these radios we just had a recent sale very sadly in many of us that know a lot of the local DJs and people on their neighboring stations um Visionary media uh K aoi and seven under the channels were all sold to aami broadcasting which um we all get to hope to get to know and they’ve already put new programming on six at least I read of the eight channels and that means six channels worth of people so I don’t know where they’re working or what’s going on there but that was pretty shocking to our small

 

17:39
local economy it again made us realize that this Tech thing this internet this thing that makes us equal in some Global Way is taking away from our local uh culture just like when small stores started to close because big big box stores CED coming here I was here for all that you know I’m sure people before me I got here in 88 but I remember when people told me oh it’s not like it was and I can say even when going 88 or 98 or’ 08 or 18 it’s not like it was we’re in a different world we have uh different

 

18:23
problems some accelerated and multiplied because we didn’t have handle it back then so some of you politicians who were still around from back then you’re going to tell me cuz we didn’t get the cooperation I remember when I got boxed out after I booked the cultural center for New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day the first year that’s a story you’ve heard me tell tidbits of but we’re going to change that because we’re going to start doing things and booking things in

 

18:54
this coming year because of uh different kinds of incomes streams that I hope to see you all of you all around the world cooperate with us and create you can call it a miracle you know in you learn that in Hebrew I I’ve a guy that was from Israel my old partner Jack fold he told me that the word business is really two words in Hebrew Biz and Ness Biz means activity and Ness is is Miracle business create a lot of activity create a miracle well we’ve created a lot of activity the miracle is all of this since I got here

 

19:41
I see a way it all fits together and and it all fits together with you I’m not really doing anything I have a little part I sing I talk a little bit here and there but this is a holistic thing cuz I’m not looking for a plan that has red States and blue States I’m not looking to have a local plan that has locals and uh people that come here later that are different camps I think we’re all together in this and here locally we have that opportunity I’ve seen in my years here I’ve been here now 36 years

 

20:20
so much love that goes across all boundaries you know I have friend for I guess 36 years Lono is now over in mikai No Boundaries you know I think that it’s only a perception and maybe uh fueled by the fact that we’re not seeing significant change and progress in remedying situations here seems that our political system here has pushed these things into little twoyear and foure and six year blocks where people try to accomplish things between elections and then they have to run again and then

 

21:01
something changes and priorities change well there could be a self- sustained system here on Maui that’ll keep us going whether the world goes left or right and it um I’m looking forward to introducing it here this year you’re part of it so you got to stay tuned you can plug in where you want but I’m very excited to be part of it 2025 sadly one of the first things I heard in 2025 and the last things I heard in 2024 were unbelievable noise coming from fireworks I I like fireworks in fact

 

21:47
Ariel and I almost like a tradition watching fireworks up on our big screen at home with fireworks all over the world beautiful beautiful exciting and I know that uh here locally it’s been a tradition to blow off fireworks but when the fireworks are at a size and scale that can cause horrific personal injury I don’t know what we can do about stopping people we can stop the whole thing and I’m sure that would create an outrage to many people and we all could get used to it right of only seeing it

 

22:28
on a screen but I understand local tradition but how do we keep it not to be scaled up to where $122,000 spent on fireworks and if you put it all together in one place and it I can’t even imagine but just outrageous to me that we could have these kind of problems but maybe you need to have a license to be able to purchase fireworks that would be interesting concept maybe uhhuh what do you think of that I like that one um then you can have fireworks again only up to a certain size but you also have

 

23:09
to have a license to purchase them so you have to be almost like a almost like like a gun permit and we have to make it so we don’t have these issues coming on into our world here some people would want to ban it completely and I’ve given thought to that and I don’t know I I think that’s going to be a giant resistance to create a giant underground and i’ would just like to that underground may exist anywhere no matter what we say but I think that it would be um better if we made regulation and

 

23:44
learn to restrict it with sense I don’t even know if I could be qualified to be part of that discussion but I know I hate seeing when people are having more like warlike injuries than quote peace time I can you imagine this is called peace time in America you know in a few days or we’re going to have a new president if we know that they’re going to have on Friday Congress is going to certify the last election and then all this stuff is just it sure doesn’t sound like peace time to me anyway I’m going to take a

 

24:26
break here but to you guys it’s not a break you’re going to get some music here’s one this one’s Stardust Road when I lived out in the country I used to dream of money and fame 1976 us [Music] andame Mar la and while [Music] waitress [Music] STS to make called Stardust [Music] andlight the As [Music] We Begin all call us back again they would stand and call our names out L and us [Music] and well now Mar is in the movies and my album has just gone gold the ringing off the wall and I

 

26:32
can’t alone so [Music] TI and [Music] Spotlight on the Roar of the engin our as we got up the St the trees [Music] see we give them a [Applause] to to last [Music] for to last for [Music] this is for the closing credits of the movie Stardust Road [Music] oh [Music] n [Music] [Music] I always like that ending you know it’s like when you see the credits at the end then it just keeps going like the opening of Star Wars with the battleship that keeps going and going well that that’s what I think of that song ending

 

30:03
because that’s the end of the uh credits in the movie Stardust Road in this day and age one can take one’s lyrics put them into the computer and have it spit out a video aren’t we in an amazing time I look at that amazing time and think look at my lifetime way back when I had to take a piece of paper and a pencil and I had to say okay beginning end here’s this piece and that piece goes with this story and that story and like I want the image to go there and I have to describe it in words and put it in

 

30:42
and now we put the words in and we say Hey Siri I’m afraid to do it my phone will go off it did already I I don’t think it’ll respond to me it caught hey Siri I’m a afraid okay that’s stop it Siri what a world we live in but that’s what’s going on I find it amazing in the last 70 that music you heard was 49 years ago I think to myself am I that old 49 years ago I was in the studio that the one that wrote the strings for that was a guy named Tom Chase and I remember that

 

31:27
Tomas Chase when he was writing my string Parts was giving guitar lessons to Barbara Strand and teaching her chords and the the chords were of the song Love Soft as an easy chair remember Evergreen love as fresh as the morning those are the days when people were singing live and those are the days days when people were composing now you can compose and sing it I can’t complain it makes it easier for me but I think of all the people that are getting excuse me kind of out of the picture you know where getting rid of

 

32:15
government we’re going to lose all these employees and make our budget go right we’re going to streamline this and we go to the Costco now instead of walking in and having someone check to see if you’re real now they have this electronic thing that will scan it and do it well and then there are people standing there to teach you how to do this first they had one on each side standing and now they have one in the middle and so it’s what are we doing are we going to re-employ our people or are

 

32:48
we going to eliminate them we have to teach them how to be self-sufficient what what so we’re in a toal total redesign of the human race what it means to work you know there’s still manual stuff but we we could tie that manual stuff toward the manual things that we need in our lives you sort of see what I’m seeing with the Maui if we had food and it was grown we already have a Maui Hub right they’re working in cash but now what if we also build housing what if we also then can create job cycle in Tech well we have to

 

33:35
work and put this together but how do people get paid well on an island we’re going to find a unique way of doing this to be able to bring a new capital and to be able to use what we have efficiently and create a self- sustainability model at least for our little model and I know it can be scaled up but first need need to be like we talked about education systems in the past people want local control not State control or federal control local control because education here has different things that it needs it may have some

 

34:15
basics for some testing score that’s National and we all need to have a certain aptitude but there are lots of things that don’t get taught because they’re not being brought into a local curriculum because we’re being so Scott Bushnell my co-host talks about all these different levels of bureaucracy so but we have to do something with those people right so coming soon like I said coming soon when everything is in place in my S I’m going to be announcing what my whole idea is and asking you to be part of it

 

34:53
so I know I think you’re going to like it because it’s you and the benefici IES of it are you guys I I said I’m old I’m not worried about me you know I don’t need to pile money I don’t have any kids or grandkids I have relatives but all my relatives are well to do at least more well Tod do than uh than I am and they’re not expecting anything from me that’s good because I’m giving my stuff to our world and our Island there are a lot of old people out there that um who

 

35:28
all talk about it you know we talk about the the missing hidden society and people that are out there in these they’re like uh housing graveyards people live in them as old people but what are we doing with those people they are what are they doing with themselves are we keeping activity and things going on to keep people young or we have them and we get them healthy and we put them in there and if they got a problem we operate and keep them living and and then we have even more of a housing

 

35:59
problem we have lots of things to talk about and lots of ways that we can be helping these situations and so that’s going to be coming up in a future show but right now I like this I’m gonna take another musical break there’s a guy named David Frasier I look forward to sitting down and talking to him because I’m going to be singing his song I think I thought it was Wednesday but it’s Thursday I think it’s uh 10:30 or 11:00 in the morning at Maui’s coffee attic uh in wuku there right before the bridge as

 

36:37
you’re going out of wuku you go to the right and park and there is a music by Simple Pleasures band John and Ames and Maryanne and whoever else they may have as guest players but they asked me to sing this song oh got to be a month or two ago and I I liked the song and when I saw it was David F I thought I’ve seen that name David Frasier plays at the coffee attic all the time so I’m looking forward to meeting him and talking to him but this song I really like this song it’s called be the

 

37:20
one under the gun somebody’s got to go and help right now and you got to be the one wanding around in [Music] circles lost in the on the Run needs to go shine some light and you got to be the one be the one be the one be the one to help save the be the one be that one the one that [Music] help’s out why AR we here where are we going what are we trying to get somebody’s got to speak out now and you got to be the one many of us have been lucky somehow to make it through we work real hard to get where

 

38:55
we are but there’s still a lot more to do so be the one the the [Music] down full to be brave and B will to tell the truth when the truth Wills be P corner [Music] [Music] strugling be the one be the one be the [Music] toes [Music] be their when they know what they see is the one the [Music] the be the one David Frasier thank you David Frasier for writing that song I saw that Meo gave him an award for that song I don’t know if it was written right before or after or what but it was um really designed

 

40:56
and I guess came uh into being around the time of the Wildfire there on the west side but really really a great song and a very important song If we Embrace those words here’s another song you’ve heard me play this one before also and I’m going to play it again because I think it’s a great song years ago it won an award but you know these old songs they’re not old to a new world and they’re isn’t that what they the entertainment people do they take an old song and play it new and they always say

 

41:35
you know things are recycle I remember when they were changing from records to cassettes and then cassettes to eight tracks and then to CDs DVDs all these different steps and they used the same artist they were recycling what they knew were going to sell and um you know but now with all these things going on in the world certain things have been brewing for a long time that haven’t seen the light of day like Stardust Road and here’s another one this is the one that I think I think it I don’t remember

 

42:10
what year it won a um a song festival in Canada peace in our hearts by our own Louise Lambert [Music] and [Music] world seems like now the world so small we see it all right here on our [Music] TV seems the the harder it becomes for us to see of all the world stage rors with an Anar and doubt and to p r life is what we need for peace in our world for peace in our [Music] country for peace [Music] our fear on our f the hooded theace [Music] [Music] build of and of it were just you and me the world

 

44:27
could sa keep inside we know what must forace in our [Music] world [Music] inace our street our it starts with peace in our [Music] I hope all world peace in our [Music] [Music] [Music] hearts child we find again the truth we’ve always known forace in our [Music] world let it fall [Music] we know what to do do that we have to really make it an extra special effort to reach out with peace you know I I have seen people pull out guns I’ve seen craziness all because of the frustrations that they’re seeing in

 

46:36
their lives right now um I don’t know why I brought up guns except guns seems to be part of a problem now people are using automobiles but here that’s so crazy here on this island I’ve seen just recently a real maybe I’m just my ears are Clos closer to the ground but it seems like there’s a lot more anxiety in the air and a lot more anger being expressed in times past I hope we can transition into this new presidency we’ve just change I was going to say we just inaugurated again our new Council

 

47:21
there were no changes at all in our Council here locally and so I wonder where the changes are going to be happening there are lots of groups bringing up ideas and I know that there’s probably being initiated right now in different Council offices different bills I’m hoping that all of you that have ideas that want to contribute go to these Council people and express your desires maybe even you have a road map on how to do it or maybe you want to talk to someone about um how they voted on different things because

 

48:02
you really never understood why they would vote that way when here’s the reasons why it been otherwise well you may not be able to change that but you’ll be able to change the next vote by sitting and talking and if you’re not you’ll say to yourself well um if we don’t have any change and I want something to be different what are we doing to make that difference happen shouldn’t we be bringing new people in or shouldn’t we be having people there that are somehow more responsive to

 

48:41
things that we whoever that be individuals or groups are saying and that’s where the political process again we go back to that thing this cycle of every two years four years we get people in there or like now no change at all and yet we’re expecting and wanting to see things change and that that just means to me that it’s going to be the same old excuses of why we can’t that’s not acceptable to me that’s why you hear me constantly using my dream brain to try to figure out how to

 

49:17
make things work there are ways to make things work that don’t require much if any legislation change it takes different ways of co-operating and different ways of thinking coming from a peaceful Co-operative brain and uh you know they say the best deal is where you don’t take all the chips off the table but everyone gets to have chips from the table so that you can keep playing otherwise if you take all the chips what good is being a king in your castle and eating all the best things when all

 

50:01
those around you aren’t that’s to me not the way to live the way to live is how can this world around me be enjoying what I’m enjoying and raise the level of All Ships and I I like that expression I’ve heard it for years you know a rising tide raises All Ships that that sounds nice let’s see how we can Implement that when people are losing jobs or things are changing how can we make it better how can we help and make it better how can we help and make it better wherever we turn we

 

50:42
see need how can we make it better well it’s interesting I’m finding myself sound like a preacher I don’t want to do that at least not yet I have lots of friends that are preachers in fact I have one on my board Reverend Rayfield Johnson who taught me to drop my buckets where I am and Men My buckets to catch the rain for which we are hoping for so here we are we’re going to mend our buckets where we are we’re going to see what we can do to make it better so we can catch this rain and

 

51:20
abundance I hope that you’re with me because we have a chance here on Maui to stand out and be an example to the World by the level of success we have in serving all our people getting more housing establishing more food getting more education and elevating our cultures and understanding of what’s going on here serving tourism and serving the local people in a way that we can be that example I hope to be that example we’ve been that example in little pockets but we just want to be promoting it and for

 

52:01
example that Gallery Without Walls imagine all the art that never mind Lina but surely you can’t not mind Lina we need to get ourselves to the world and have the world in helping us also build the Environmental Solutions here that we can then share with them that they work 442 left 442 like the um the uh Japanese group over here the 442 you know I remember when DED took over as their Chief and I guess they’ve been very visible and she’s done a really good job with them and made them more visible we knew them from now

 

52:46
but I’m glad that she’s getting it out in the age where the young people can still remember all the brave Heroes that we’ve had in the past and may we replace those fighting Brave Heroes with those that will avoid peace avoid not avoid peace what are you saying avoid war avoid Fighting by speaking maybe we can find a way to deescalate we know it’s not surely out there in the world we see it going on right now but we can sure start right here at home and create this example no examples in anything seems to

 

53:27
happen overnight but with diligence and awareness this can happen pretty quickly there’s Technologies right now that can be implemented and make a huge huge difference right here right now and we have three minutes left so I’m GNA play a song and then I’m going to come back and say goodbye here’s one Lono wrote I think it’s a great song it’s called then I do if you’re getting married [Music] there is no other one what I feel here for you holding you in my arms crle you with my

 

54:30
love you’re all dressed in white looking in your eyes till all the world tonight I’ll be falling you’re my shining star from this day on I’ll be your friend I’ll be by your side bless blessed are we this night shower us with his love will you be mine tonight giving you all my love and when we look back at our wedding day this Band of Gold that we will share NeverEnding love for all my life then I do then I do written by Lono he’s a really uh great songwriter he’s also um doing things that over in

 

56:13
mikai with u ukulele and camp and teaching people and still performing great guy anyway um we have just a few seconds left thank you all for joining us here at the neutral zone go to Maui neutral zone.com you can see all our shows there or YouTube at dream Maui number one or you can go in Maui stream and ask for us also that’s akaku online connection thank you again for joining us we’ll see you next week when we’ll have Taran and Jessica talking about art we are out of here blessings to you everyone be

 

56:54
healthy be safe Happy New Year

 

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