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Jimmy Kimmel & Jason Schwartz # 11 Q & About the Urantia Book 2013
Summary & Transcript
In this insightful and wide-ranging discussion, Reverend James Kimmel and Jason Schwarz explore profound spiritual, historical, and political themes centered around the concept of the “Spirit of Truth,” the original gospel message, and the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Hawaii. The conversation begins by clarifying the essence of the “Spirit of Truth” as a divine presence that enshrouds the soul, marking the birth of the soul at the moment of a child’s first moral decision, and fostering self-confidence and spiritual identity as Sons and Daughters of God.
They delve into the distortion of the original gospel message, which emphasized the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man, contrasting it with the Christian focus on the resurrection of Jesus Christ rather than his teachings. This misinterpretation led to the creation of organized religions that deviated from the initial spiritual truth of universal kinship and divine paternity.
The discussion then transitions into the political and historical context of Hawaii, highlighting a deeply personal connection through family lineage to key legal figures involved in the Kingdom of Hawaii and its overthrow in 1893. Reverend Kimmel recounts the tragic history of the illegal overthrow, the forced abdication of Queen Liliuokalani under threat of bloodshed, and the ongoing fight for Hawaiian sovereignty. He shares personal courtroom experiences that underscore systemic injustices and conspiracies that have impacted him and the Hawaiian people.
Further, the dialogue examines the broader cosmic and spiritual narrative involving planetary rebellion, the Lucifer Rebellion, and the isolation of Earth from universal spiritual guidance, creating a backdrop for humanity’s spiritual ignorance and struggle. Reverend Kimmel explains the significance of Jesus’ teachings as a new revelation promising the restoration of spiritual truths and cosmic citizenship.
The conversation closes with reflections on the potential for Hawaii to become a spiritual and political center for a new world government based on justice, peace, and the recognition of divine brotherhood. The reinstatement of the Kingdom of Hawaii is framed as both a spiritual and political imperative, supported by historical documents such as Queen Liliuokalani’s official protest and U.S. Public Law 103-150. The speakers emphasize the urgency of recognizing spiritual truths, correcting historical wrongs, and fostering global peace through the acknowledgment of shared divine parentage.
Highlights
- [03:00] ✨ Explanation of the “Spirit of Truth” as the living spiritual presence that enshrouds the soul and fosters self-confidence.
- [07:25] The coming of the Spirit of Truth to the disciples, inspiring joy, confidence, and the proclamation of the gospel message.
- [10:00] ⚠️ The distortion of the original gospel message focusing on Jesus’ resurrection rather than the fatherhood of God and brotherhood of man.
- [18:39] ⚖️ The forced abdication of Queen Liliuokalani and the illegal overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893.
- [22:30] ⚖️ Personal courtroom experience highlighting systemic injustice and the conspiracy that led to wrongful imprisonment.
- [37:50] Spiritual and cosmic background involving planetary rebellion and Earth’s isolation from universal spiritual guidance.
- [51:30] ️ The vision for reinstating the Kingdom of Hawaii and establishing a new world government founded on truth, justice, and brotherhood.
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Key Insights
- [03:00] ✨ Spirit of Truth as the Source of Spiritual Identity and Confidence:
The Spirit of Truth is described not as a personality but as a spiritual presence that envelops the soul from its inception, marking the birth of the soul at the first moral decision of a child. This presence nurtures self-love, self-confidence, and an innate connection to God as Father, positioning every human as a spiritual mother of their soul. This insight reframes identity from a mere physical or social construct to a profound spiritual reality, underscoring how inner confidence emerges from divine affiliation, not external validation. - [07:25] The Transformative Power of Spiritual Awakening:
The disciples’ experience of receiving the Spirit of Truth after Jesus’ resurrection illustrates the awakening of spiritual joy, security, and confidence that compels public proclamation of spiritual truths. This moment reflects the human potential for sudden spiritual empowerment and conviction, catalyzing social and religious movements. However, the subsequent misinterpretation of the gospel message reveals the fragility of spiritual truth when filtered through human agendas. - [10:00] ⚠️ Misinterpretation of the Gospel and Its Societal Impact:
The conversation highlights a critical historical shift where the early disciples, particularly Peter and Paul, emphasized the resurrection of Jesus as opposed to his teachings about the fatherhood of God and brotherhood of man. This theological pivot led to Christianity focusing on worship of Jesus as deity rather than living by his message, fracturing the original spiritual unity and contributing to religious division. Recognizing this distortion is crucial for interfaith dialogue and spiritual renewal. - [18:39] ⚖️ Historical Injustice in Hawaii and the Importance of Sovereignty:
The overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom and forced abdication of its queen under threat of violence is presented as a grave injustice still unresolved today. Reverend Kimmel’s family connections bring a personal dimension to this political reality, illustrating how colonialism and illegal annexation have lasting impacts on indigenous governance, land rights, and cultural survival. Understanding this history is essential for addressing modern sovereignty movements and land restitution efforts. - [22:30] ⚖️ Systemic Conspiracies and the Struggle for Justice:
Kimmel’s recounting of his wrongful conviction and imprisonment due to a conspiracy engineered by the DEA reveals how legal systems can be manipulated to suppress individuals challenging established powers. This personal narrative underscores the intersection of political, legal, and spiritual struggles, highlighting the need for systemic reform and vigilance against abuses of power. - [37:50] Cosmic Rebellion and Spiritual Isolation of Humanity:
The discussion situates Earth’s spiritual challenges within a grand cosmic framework involving a planetary rebellion led by Lucifer, resulting in Earth being quarantined and cut off from larger spiritual governance. This narrative explains human spiritual ignorance and suffering as consequences of cosmic events, inviting a broader perspective on human history and destiny that transcends Earth-bound concerns. - [51:30] ️ Vision for Global Peace through Hawaiian Sovereignty and Universal Brotherhood:
The vision for reinstating the Kingdom of Hawaii as a lawful government and hosting a global constitutional convention reflects a hope for a new paradigm of governance based on spiritual truths—fatherhood of God and brotherhood of man. This political and spiritual synthesis proposes that peace on Earth can only be realized through recognition of shared divine parentage and universal justice, a message that resonates beyond Hawaii to global aspirations for peace and unity.
Conclusion
This dialogue between Reverend James Kimmel and Jason Schwartz offers a profound exploration of spiritual truths, historical realities, and political aspirations. By reclaiming the original gospel message centered on divine fatherhood and human brotherhood, confronting historic wrongs such as the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom, and situating human experience within a cosmic framework, they articulate a vision for personal and collective transformation. Their call to recognize spiritual identity and truth as the foundation for self-confidence and justice invites listeners to engage deeply with their heritage, spirituality, and global citizenship. The conversation encourages ongoing dialogue, education, and activism aimed at restoring harmony between spiritual ideals and earthly governance.
Transcript
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aloha aloha everybody that’s Jim Kimmel not to be confused with Jim Kimmel who’s on Late Night television although sometimes you’ll see this Jim Kim on right night I would love to get on Jimmy Kimmo live oh Jimmy Kimmel Live coming soon to a theater near you that will be fun to see and uh actually that something you may be fun to see in fact I think you should ask Jimmy Kimmel the other guy and uh we’ll see cuz that may be coming that would be fun but this is Jimmy Kimmel uh Reverend
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James Kimmel uh from where do you live in Kola right L Kola Kola Maui Hawaii now we have been doing shows different questions and answers about the ranche book from the ran book uh I stopped counting but then today you just reminded we’re up to number 11 11 11 every time I put on a new shirt I keep thinking I hope you know that we’ve been doing a lot of original shows and we’re doing this so that there’ll be a lot of information out there so that you the public can get enough information and be
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reaching out to see what the ranch book’s about and have questions and answers and opinions so we can do a live call and talk show so I’m Jason Schwarz this is Jim Kimmel Reverend James Kimmel who’s been doing a UR ranche Book for a long time you’ve been reading but I thought and I still think that by doing it in this kind of way we kind of get closer to different subjects and stuff the book has a lot of things that are controversial and the biggest and most controversial is probably in my opinion
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that um we all need to be aware that there’s a fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man and that simple truth brought us to today’s question from me which was really about the simple truth um I’ve been looking at what is it that makes something happen and self-confidence is a big issue and self-love but we were referencing in the book here and this passage is called the bestow of the spirit of Truth you know the spirit of Truth um I guess you can tell me a lot about the spirit of
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Truth is there a way to get your uh grips on what that means the spirit of Truth the spirit of Truth is the living spiritual presence of the Prince of Peace not the personality the presence the spiritual presence and the spiritual presence the spiritual the spirit of Truth trth and idealistic Beauty enshrouds our soul so it’s around our body just like when we were in our mother’s womb we were enshrouded by her wom so our whole universe is immersed or I guess not bombarded is fully present with the or the presence
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of the spirit of Truth in dwells in all that is not all that is uh all of the people of the world who have made their very first moral decision oh okay okay U before they have made their very first moral decision the spirit of truth comes and helps uh make their mind ready to receive the great gift from God himself which is a fragment of his will it’s like um if you can if you can dig that God is an infinite person an infinite spiritual person and and he has the equivalent of what we have as males we have sperm that
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has to do with the reproduction of new beings okay well God has fragments of his will that comes to each of us when we make our very first moral Free Will decision when we’re about just a little bit short of six years old probably somewhere between five and six as a child we make our first moral choice and from that point on the soul that’s what marks the birth of the soul is the coming of the fragment of the will of God that impregnates the Mind our mind is like the mo and the Soul was
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the embryo growing within the womb in response to our motherly em but we as men or women we are the mothers of our soul regardless of physical sex okay we are all the mothers of the Soul because we are all the person each person makes their very first Free Will choice that marks the creation of a new being a whole new creature is born okay in the mind the womb of the person so once that being that person makes a moral decision M that’s the point of creation of the soul the beginning of That’s the birth of the soul and the
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soul is enshrouded in the spirit of truth from beginning to end so um I don’t how that fits in I don’t know if it fits in Christianity it fits in Islam in Hinduism it’s a new revelation okay it’s a new revelation just like when Jesus came he was nothing but revelation he revealed Truth and Love everywhere he went and it was Way Beyond the standards in this in the the language of the people of his day he was like he was an upgrade so to speakr and uh so how come we’re we’re driving rusty
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old cars when we had that upgrade then oh what paper were you picking here well this this this Spirit of Truth has to do with confidence self-confidence you were talking about selfconfidence I wanted to see how the spirit of Truth goes with self-confidence I thought that’ be a good subject let’s see how the spirit of Truth goes with each person now because this is extremely important in answer to your question okay and this this took place on Thursday evening May 18th in the year 30 right
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okay Thursday afternoon about 1:00 as the 120 Believers were engaged in prayer they all became aware of a strange presence in the room at the same time these disciples all became conscious of a new and profound sense of spiritual Joy security and confidence this new consciousness of spiritual strength was immediately followed by a strong urge to go out and publicly proclaim the gospel of the kingdom and the good news that Jesus had risen from the dead Peter stood up and declared that this must be the coming of the spirit of
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Truth which the master had promised them and proposed that they go to the temple and begin the proclamation of the good news committed to their hands and they did just what Peter suggested now these men had been trained and instructed that the gospel which they should preach was the fatherhood of God and the sunship of man but at just this moment of spiritual easy and personal Triumph the best Tidings the greatest news these men could think of was the fact of the Risen Master blew their minds naturally and so they went forth owed
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with power from on high preaching Glad Tidings to the people even salvation through Jesus but they unintentionally stumbled into the error of substituting some of of the facts associated with the gospel for the gospel message itself let’s for a moment pause there so that what you’re basically saying there is that um stumble made an evil Choice a choice that has created a a misunderstanding with people because it’s an evil Choice see it’s it’s a because it’s not a truth F it’s not fact it’s not a fact Peter
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unwittingly let off in this mistake and others followed after him on down to Paul who created a new religion out of the new version of the good news there’s two changes now already wow from the original gospel the gospel of the kingdom is the fact of the fatherhood of God ah period it’s the most basic fact of all creation the sovereignty of God is is the fundamental fact of all creation what does that mean the fatherhood of God it means exactly what it says God is our father spiritually okay even as we
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are our mother so what did it get translated to in the first Incarnation and then the second here well well me see that okay so Peter went out and and created his own church taking the gospel and taking some truth and twisting some well the the the fact of the Resurrection was substituted for the fact of the fatherhood God you ever heard that in the Christian message no I never heard of fatherhood of God so they focused on the fact that this guy got reaw Wen rather than focusing on the message that he came to bring yeah so
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we’ve been celebrating that he himself was a deity rather than proclamation of his message his message which was the most important piece exactly that is huge that’s like the basis for uh wow understanding divided Christianity wow basically the gospel of the kingdom is the fact of the fatherhood of God coupled with the resultant truth of the sunship Brotherhood of men what a difference in the way the world goes maybe that’s what this new age is about is that we start to recognize the fatherhood of God and the
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sunship and Brotherhood of Man will the kingdom of God is at hand is that why you’ve been peace in all these years peace Inc and Mau net you’ve been on this path a long time long time peace 44 years please continue Christianity heard of it as it developed from that day is the fact of God As the father of the Lord Jesus Christ in association with the experience of believer fellowship with the Risen and glorified Christ it is not strange that these Spirit infused men should have seized upon this opportunity to express their
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feelings of triumph over the forces which had sought to destroy their master and end the influence of his teachings at such a time as this it was easier to remember their personal association with Jesus and to be thrilled with the assurance that the master still lived that their friendship had not ended and that the spirit had indeed come upon upon them even as he had promised the spirit of Truth these Believers felt themselves suddenly translated into another another world a new existence of Joy power and
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Glory the master had told them the kingdom would come with power and some of them thought they were beginning to discern what he meant well that’s very interesting it’s like the spirit of Truth feel feels like a coding yeah setting you feel it you feel it with your soul you feel the spirit of Truth with your soul you recognize it with your mind and the recognition of the spirit of Truth with your mind with what you feel from your soul is the basis of self-confidence absolutely focusing on the spirit of Truth as a Son of God
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you have every right to have infinite supre Supreme self maximum possible finite confidence his Supreme confidence and as fellow Sons and Daughters of God hey we should all have Supreme respect and supreme confidence for ourselves and our neighbors as ourselves which means if you feel it go at it and you can do it that’s what it means yeah yeah and when all of this is taken into consideration it is not difficult to understand how these men came to preach a new gospel about Jesus in the place of their former
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message of the fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of men I mean that is so huge you I hope you all catch the I’m sure you do the power of that difference is the fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man if we all got that message instead of about the life of this guy yeah yeah wow what a gigantic difference okay and well that was all there was to that section on Wow the that’s powerful yeah great um when we’re going and talking about uh the spirit of truth and the way things are in the
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world and often you’ve talked about the truth and the reality of the Kingdom of Hawaii and how um this could be the seat of the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth um what do you think is important for our audience to know as far as that link because well I I can hear you know in some of the things that you’re talking about that going on this desire to reach out to really ground the Kingdom of Hawaii uh in this world to somehow make it possible for the Kingdom of Hawaii to exist I don’t know exactly
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how does the arancha book talk in reference to what and how to make that event uh possible here yeah it’s yes here mhm it in association with some other important uh information and documents such as the Queen’s story Hawaii Story by Hawaii’s Queen Lily colani is a must read to understand how Hawaii came to be part of the United States okay and it was in that book I discovered the skeleton in the closet that my great grandfather-in-law was the first Harvard trained lawyer to be the attorney general for the Kingdom
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of Hawaii in under the kameha back in 1860s I think it was he was the attorney general for the king in the 1860s and so he was the first so where’s the skeleton there well that was in the 1860s but when Hai was overthrown in 1893 and at that point in time from what I read in the Queen’s story I would never have known if I hadn’t read the Queen’s story right uh about this phenomenal fact in in in my life and uh uh that he was part of your heritage yeah well the my wife from 1957 I got
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married in on Lulu and my wife’s mama was related to uh this person and and and they didn’t nobody ever knew about how the King was overthrown it was like nobody knew how it came to be part of the US it just happened my my children’s grandma was 5 years old growing up on the molai ranch where her dad was the manager and he was the son of as Hartwell who’s the person the queen revealed as the lawyer that Drew up the papers of abdication she was forced to sign under threat of Bloodshed wow now that wasn’t a pleasant
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Discovery no it wasn’t you I’m saying but it gave me absolutely perfect and good cause to become immediately involved in the one sovereignty movement that was just beginning to uh come into active existence in those days on Kawai was in January of 73 wow and I figured this this is I’ve got to do anything in everything I can to make this wrong of the past right in today’s world I always wonder you know how do you get the Kingdom of Hawaii here and what happens with all the buildings and the people
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and their property and their ownership and all that stuff everything everything having to do with the outworking of the will of God is all positive and all for the benefit of everybody so there’s no reason to fear anything other than uh well there’s no reason to fear anything except you get fear as a consequence of thinking thoughts that are not true or are true and they’re not good thoughts I’m not sure exactly what you mean in other words um why do the sovereignty of the the nation of
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Hawaii it had physical land all this land the whole Kingdom the whole so-called state of Hawaii right used to be the Kingdom of Hawaii that came into existence in the 1700s in terms of Constitution and uh one of my uh other relatives in law was responsible for helping create the king a constitution of 1841 anyhow um I discovered the GP Jud also through my marriage to my children’s mother was directly related to GP Jud doct Garrett P Jud and the Jud family is an old family in a way and and all these people that I’d heard names of
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all of a sudden took on new meanings as a consequence of reading the queen story I see big time I mean I was wow you know this is how Hawaii came to be part of the United States I can’t you know I there all I can do is wow you I’ve got to do everything I can to make this wrong right well it’s it’s an interesting Quest cuz it’s so many years after that fact and so much de development has happened I don’t know how that process would happen well another another relation now current times or almost current
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times do you remember the name uh Samuel P King J judge Sam King was the chief District of Hawaii judge in the federal court okay I kind of like to call him King Sam he really considered himself to be king of Hawaii now I just happened to end up in his courtroom one time back in whatever it was 73 or four or five I just don’t remember anymore but U I had gotten and snared in the conspiracy that was created by the DEA and uh uh I found myself ultimately in front of judge king and as my defense for this crime I
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uh asked the court to take judicial notice of 26 points of fact and the first one was the fact that the kingdom of ha existed as an independent nation with treaties with other nations at 1890 okay that on 189 and on January 17th 1893 as a result of a that King ha was overthrown uh conspiracy of American troops and forces and other friendly conspirators so to speak overthrew the Kingdom of Hawaii and um this man uh as Harwell who uh Drew up the papers of abdication the queen was forced to sign I asked the
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court to take judicial notes of the fact that Queen Lily okalani was the lawful Monarch of the king of Hai and and she had to um abdicate the throne under Fort under threat of Bloodshed and the lawyer that dro the papers of abdication U uh was my children’s great great grandfather right and judge king says he come sitting up under his chair how are you related to this man as well I I married a lady named cordney weard back in the 50s and her mama used to be known as Martha Hartwell and her dad was Charles
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Hartwell and his dad was as Hartwell the queen referred to oh he said I’m related to the same person that what he said the judge I’m saying wow you know we were both stunned at this disc covery and I’m thinking to myself should I ask the judge to recuse himself or now that he knows we’re kind of related maybe he’ll cut me some slack that’s funny so I figured well I’ll I’ll roll I I’ll cut this SL we come to an arrangement in well pretty soon he called it recess and we went up to his Chambers
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and the top of the Federal Building there was this he had the the top of the Eagle’s Nest so to speak wow in full 360 view downtown Honolulu him and I are in his his Chambers discussing the seriousness of the charges that he knew I got and snared in the conspiracy they created he knew he knew and and so I told him well I I appreciate the fact that that by by your views that was a very serious thing but at the same time I’m just as serious that you don’t have any jurisdiction here because you didn’t get Hawaii
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lawfully you didn’t get Hawaii righteously and our relative had a big hand in the overthrow of this Kingdom Therefore your honor uh you’re you’re also equally involved in a major crime so like uh I didn’t ask to get this information or this product you folks wanted you came to me you brought your conspiracy to me you I thought it was a good idea but it turned out they were not for real right they they were talking fiction instead of fact right they were uh conspiring to entra they
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they were conspiring to ens snare me in a conspiracy to distribute LSD they brought that to me wow make a long story short the judge found me guilty of five charges and gave me five years each 25 years in federal prison for a conspiracy that they created and brought to me so they could render me inoperative in their society you didn’t serve 25 years did 26 months before I got the convictions reversed in the court of appeals in San Francisco and they would used to be in America you didn’t have to go to jail
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until you’ve exhausted all your legal remedies if you took your case to the Supreme Court you were allowed to be considered innocent until proven guilty at the highest level right well they wouldn’t give me that privilege they put a $50,000 appeal Bond on my head knowing full well I don’t have any money made it impossible for me not to go to prison and I shouldn’t have gone until after the ultimate outworking of the case because ultimately I was what do you call uh yeah you were found not guilty and
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innocent and you already served 26 months but I had a good time there I took the Kingdom of Heaven in with me and it wasn’t long me there was a number of people reading this book and enjoying the fact that they were in prison and had the opportunity to find it wow anyhow uh you want to read the Queen’s um official protest official protest see this is a very important thing having to do with uh the reinstatement of the Kingdom of Hawaii because the only reason it has to be re had to be reinstated is because it was
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overthrown and was forced into Exile right in 1893 so now um wow this official protest of the treaty uh says I L colani of Hawaii by the will of God named he apparent on the 10th day of April 1877 and by the grace of God Queen of the Hawaiian Islands on the 17th day of January 1893 do hereby protest against the ratification of a certain treaty which so I am informed has been signed at Washington by mures hatch thiron and Kenny purporting to seed those islands to the territory and Dominion of the United States
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I declare such a treaty to be an act of wrong towards the native and part native people of Hawaii an invasion of the rights of the ruling Chiefs in violation of international rights both toward my people and toward friendly nations with whom they have made treaties the perpetuation of the fraud whereby the constitutional government was overthrown and finally an act of gross Injustice to me so where was this filed or where was it she handed it to the head of the justice department if I remember right or the president himself
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okay because the official protests made by me on the 17th day of January 1893 to the so-called provisional government was signed by me and received by said government with the assurance that the case was referred to the United States of America for arbitration that’s different than we’ve ever heard now this is about how she yielded to avoid Bloodshed because that protest and my communications to the United States government immediately thereafter expressly declare that I yielded my authority to the forces of the United
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States in order to avoid Bloodshed and because I recog recognized the futility of a conflict with so formidable a power right because the president of the United States the Secretary of State and an Envoy commissioned by them in official documents that my government was unlawfully coerced by the forces diplomatic and Naval of the United States that I was at the date of their investigations the constitutional ruler of my people because such decision of the recognized magistrates of the United States was officially communicated to me
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and to Sanford B Dole and to Dole’s resignation requested by Albert s Willis who the recognized agent and minister of the government of the United States be I think just you know I look at this and I think how more than a century later can we reconcile this that’s what we’re involved in and and how do we sharing the facts and the truth with the people and how do we how do we move from here which should be interesting to hear how Nelson Armitage and Henry Noah explain their transition and and
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how and these things come out to the people that are here and inhabiting this place that’s why I always the reason I’m asking is title companies real estate title companies which have been signing as fact right y ownership of land in Hawaii for so very long I mean stolen property that’s what I mean it’s all stolen property how do you deal with that and well the fraud see the fraud I mean the United States government itself is nothing more nor less than an ongoing criminal Enterprise well and Hawaii is part one
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of the major thefts of a Nation I mean they went from the east coast of America all the way out to here and they didn’t get there righteously they fought and killed and murdered and and poison people from the east coast to the West Coast so how do we now make it right make it right by recognizing the truth that we’re all Sons and Daughters of God recognizing the fact that God’s our father and we’re all brothers and sisters and this is a fact and truth of life that we can live and enjoy the the reality of it in our
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daily experience but I don’t understand the part that I don’t understand is I got that but is that as our our spiritual side no the Kingdom of Hawaii has a physical experience the king of is a is a is a political reality is a political reality the Kingdom of Heaven is a spiritual reality okay right so so now the the reinstatement the bringing out of the Exile of the kingdom of Hoy was in response to the publishing of US public 103-1 15 right we that considered the apology Bill so-called
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apology bill which they they apologized supposedly in black and white but the apology wasn’t honest nor sincere let me ask you this if somebody steals your horse and and takes it down the road and you find out and and they bring about say hey well we we stole your horse and we’re sorry but they don’t give it back wouldn’t you if you stole somebody’s horse and you felt bad about it afterwards wouldn’t you want to give them the horse back if you were honest and sincere and your
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apology I don’t know maybe I ate the horse well I mean or there’s better anal well I’m just trying to figure out that’s what I’m saying I mean we’re so many years past the point of physical wrongdoing how to reconcile here 100 plus years later and not create a a war over physical territory well Jesus said many times that the recognition of Truth is what will set you free so you want to be free of all your misconception misinterpretations understandings of everything that you’ve
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been exposed to during the course of your lifetime or anybody’s then just if you want to if you want to decide you know hey if I all the things I’ve been believing all my life are they have they been facts or did somebody give me a Santa Claus story that I believe to be true fact or fiction has to do with reality and unreality I’m wondering the the physical reality of how to do this I mean I I think that’s the biggest Communications problem basically the people of the world have
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the foggiest idea of that which they need most to know here’s a challenge I was talking with my friends earlier about how do how could we get to to people like the owners of Google the guys that started Google or Mark what’s his name that did start at Facebook here are these guys gazillionaires young men real young people and and I asked well do they have at their they have access to all kinds of information and supercomputers would they be able to pull out of their Mass reservoir of that
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which the world needs most to know for example if we want World Peace if we want group survival instead of group Extinction is there something in their computer in their computer bank that could reveal to man that which man needs most to know what is it what would that happen to be what is it that man would happen to know or need to know that he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand and that’s the simple fact of sunship with god he has live it not just talk well first you have to be exposed to the
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fact that it exists we’re born into we’re that’s why we’re here together we’re born on a planet that has been uh the victim of planetary rebellion and the planetary Rebellion that I’m speaking of had took its origin on this planet 200,000 years ago okay so uh The evolutionary development of life and civilization on our world has been the victim of a lot of unfortunate things that have have taken place in our past uh from our spiritual leadership and uh everybody’s heard of
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the lucif of Lucifer and our planetary Prince got caught up in what was known as the Lucifer Rebellion a couple hundred thousand years ago and all of a sudden our planet was isolated quarantined all Communications lines cut off and we’re we’re we we’re on own we don’t have any visible spiritual leadership at all Adam and Eve were the last ones and they uh were supposed to still be here they came about 38,000 years ago and uh they were supposed to still be here but uh they failed in their mission the consequence
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happened because they defaulted on their mission and as a consequence of their mistake they were reduced to the status of Mortals and died physical death after a little over 500 years of of Life what was that Mr think U what they do the the mistake made was a violation of their agreement not to have any Offspring with the inhabitants of the planet until after they had had something like I don’t know know they had they had they have so many of their own children on Earth I have to look in the book that question speci
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okay okay but but the uh the mistake made was was Eve was impatient Eve was impatient with the progress of the Kingdom they were isolated from all of their kind our planet was isolated they have no Communications with outside worlds so here they are the Superhuman rulers of our planet cut off from the outside universe and and and and on a world that’s been by the influence of the Rebel planetary Prince and his staff who Lucifer no caligastia Lucifer was this he was the the super administrator he was the admin he was
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The Sovereign of a system a local system of inhabited worlds um in 600 and something inhabited worlds he was the he was The Sovereign administrator of the worlds the planetary many of these people think of the worlds as this world so 650 worlds is by itself forget these concept yeah I understand so well again these are these are the inevitable consequences the ignorance of these things is the consequences of of the fact of the Rebellion having reduced us to okay that’s a very good point yeah
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that is the point that the reason we’re in the dark is because it was by Design CU we were cut off yeah okay don’t want don’t want the disease to spread so not even give us the capacity to learn or understand it keep it confined to the planets involved you wow so to make these wrongs of the past right mesc showed up on the scene after Adam and Eve defaulted about 4,000 years ago from about 38,000 years ago 35,000 whatever it was to the uh 4,000 years ago there was no visible U rulership other than
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the Sons and Daughters of uh The Offspring of the Loyalists that that were that survived the uh fall of of the planetary Prince the loyal members all survived and in had Offspring those words are interesting to me planetary Prince planetary Prince meaning Lucifer well no he not calasia he was a sovereign not a planetary Prince he’s he’s The Sovereign of a system of Worlds a planetary Prince is The Sovereign of a single World okay so Lucifer is The Sovereign of The Sovereign planetary princes of the
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inhabited worlds these are Big Concepts Jim there there’s a lot to be learned you can see why we want to call in talk show and why there’s so much to digest you know a lot of um people number of them Christians have told me they’ve been very encouraged to know that there’s more than no they figured there was something in the Bible that uh uh really deserved closer inspection and looking at and as as I’ve come to understand it’s the life and teachings of Jesus and this refocus on the teachings and what
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he came to say the fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood and sunship of man is so important is different that we study is life and that’s the Christian thing that we know so I’m glad we do these shows there is so much going on here and so much information 650 worlds I mean that alone wrapping my yeah awareness those are 650 worlds that have inhabitants MH that are in this Zone in our local system there there are 10,000 local systems in one local universe and our older brother Jesus who is the prince of peace
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now uh he’s also the Sovereign creator of our local universe nebadon is the name of our universe so there are 10,000 local systems in the universe of NE done how much of this do these people really need to know I mean like myself I know there’s a lot in the book and you’re really been a student of it for a long time but I like to boil it down to what can we apply and where and what can make our world a better place the more the more facts we know the better we can understand everything if we’re given
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essentially all the facts about everything so that we can understand everything then we’re free of our ignorance we’re free of our superstitions we’re free of our immaturity and our so forth and so on so like uh well what I’m saying is the more facts we have the better we can understand everything in the situation so like it should make it pretty easy to understand if if the people of the world in the words of Jesus were to discover what they need most to know see then they they would
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be they would have identified themselves as a cosmic citizen so to speak Jesus on his 16th appearance after his resurrection to a small group of Apostles and Believers amongst other things he said that which the world needs most to know is men are the sons of God and through faith they can actually realize and daily experience this en nobling truth so it gives you a good thought seed to plant in your mind garden and become part of your soul and you can feel it with your mind you can feel it with your spirit this it’s true it’ll
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ring your truth Bell you are a son or a daughter of God that’s a fact and the truth you can discover by accepting the fact as true and living the truth as a consequence the idea is love is the rule in the Kingdom of God in the Kingdom of Heaven the let me say this the kingdom of God is at hand meaning a return to that high spiritual concept of Jesus who proclaimed that the kingdom is the will of his Heavenly Father dominant and Transcendent in the heart of the believer now that which the world needs most to
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know is We’re All Sons and Daughters of God so the kingdom of God is at hand the kingdom of God is within the Kingdom of Heaven is the outward working out of the inner spiritual reality if we externalize the love and the truth that’s within us with one another be sharing god with one another sharing love sharing truth is sharing god with one another and there are Divine parents so as well that we should the better we can know our parents the more we can love them and the better we understand what
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they’ve done for us the more appreciative and grateful and thankful we can be so we would be inclined to want to make the most of what we’ve inherited as a consequence of being Sons and Daughters of God on this world so is some do we expect some kind of event to change Consciousness or is this is a long Continuum well back I think it was 1973 maybe 1974 I went over to Honolulu and had a meeting with the religion editor for this un store bulletin lady named naen Scott okay and I talked to her about and this
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is before this one s do had gotten up very far anyhow um I was talking to this lady about uh Hawaii becoming the capital of a new form of world government of the People by the people and for the people of the world Jesus reveals elsewhere in his book when he was in Iran when Jesus was teaching in Iran amongst other things the most important thing he said was the planetary sovereignty of Representative mankind government will bring lasting peace on Earth and the spiritual Brotherhood of Man will forever ensure Good Will among
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all man and there is no other way whereby peace on Earth and Good Will among men can be realized do we get that so now so how do we get from there to where we ought to be has to do with a global Constitutional Convention hosted by the Kingdom of Hawaii see when when the facts are recognized and the truth is acknowledged the United States government has no choice whatsoever except to leave Hawaii gracefully and graciously in the state of Hawaii just evaporate transmute morph into service in the Kingdom of Hawaii the lawful
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Hawaiian government not the illegal government the lawful Hawaiian government has been reinstated as a consequence of the Prince of Peace enabling the passage of public law 103-115 because the creator of our universe ruled in favor of the Queen’s official protest which we get back to because because it’s very significant because neither the above named commission nor the government which sends it has ever received any such Authority from the registered voters of Hawaii but derives its assumed
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powers from the so-called Committee of Public Safety organized owner about the 17th day of January 1893 said committee being composed largely of persons claiming American citizenship and not one single Hawaiian was a member thereof or in any way participated in the demonstration leading to its existence because my people about 40,000 in number have in no way been consulted by those 3,000 in number who claim the right to destroy the independence of Hawaii my people constitute 4 fths of the legally qualified voters of Hawaii
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and excluding those imported for the demands of Labor about the same proportion of the inhabitants because said treaty ignores not only the Civic rights of my people but further the hereditary property of their Chiefs of the 4 million Acres composing the territory said treaty offers to anex 1 million or 915,000 acres has in no way been here to for recognized as other than the private property of the Constitutional Monarch subject to a control in no way differing from other items of a private estate because it is because it is
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proposed by said treaty to confiscate said property technically called the crown lands those legally entitled there to either now or in succession receiving no consideration whatever for Estates their title to which has been always Undisputed and which is legitimately in the name in my name at this Daye because said treaty ignores not only all professions of Perpetual Amity and good faith made by the United States in former treaties with the sovereign representing the Hawaiian people but all treaties made by those sovereigns with
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other and friendly powers and it is thereby in violation of international law wow the law of Nations well this is bigger than a bread box even so bigger bigger than our show can address um we’re almost to the end of this here okay go ahead because by treating with the parties claiming at this time the right to seed said territory of Hawaii the government of the United States receives such territory from the hands of Those whom its own magistrates legally elected by the people of the United States and in
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office in 1893 pronounced fraudulently in power and unconstitutionally ruling Hawaii therefore I Lily U colani of Hawaii do hereby call upon the president of that Nation to whom alone I yielded my property and my authority to withdraw said treaty seeding said Islands from further consideration I ask the honorable Senate of the United States to decline to ratify a said treaty and I implore the people of this great and good Nation from whom my ancestors learned the Christian religion to sustain their
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representatives in such acts of justice and Equity as may be in accord with the principles of their fathers and to the almighty ruler of the universe to him who judgeth righteously I commit my cause so that’s your link that’s the link that’s the link link to the kingdom of heaven yeah she appealed to him directly he was in her the spirit of Truth was in her and with her even as her will of God her fragment of God in her they call him thought of Jers in your book they were in her when she filed the official
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protest with the US government this whole story of her trip to Washington is in here and who she met with and who she gave it to everything all the details here what year was this that this was written by her this was written that little thing you just read over her official protest yeah that was uh June 17th 1897 yeah June 17th 1897 so quote four years after the overthrow over and two months before the meeting of the OAS in basil Switzerland to put the world’s zist organization together to take over the
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world wow Hawaii was one of the first ones that was a victim of that there is this guy talks about a lot of stuff here you know um I’m glad we do these shows you know love what’s good is I hope that our audience knows this is created to share something new that uh Jim knows as important and I’ve learned as important important and understand that we want you that’s why we want to do a call-in talk show so I would recommend you uh keep tuned and watch these and respond out to our email
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addresses and web addresses and um keep tuned to the media because we’re going to show up somewhere sooner or later and we’re on YouTube We that’s probably many of you are looking on YouTube YouTube right now that’ be nice H well thanks for doing this today thank you another good another good one aloha that
