Summary of Reverend Jimmy Kimmel Live – Exploring The Urantia Book and Its Spiritual Cosmology
Duration: 00:01 → 50:00+
– [00:01 → 06:49] Introduction and Overview of The Urantia Book
Hosts: Jason Schwartz (co-host) and Reverend Jimmy Kimmel (not the celebrity, but a spiritual teacher and scientist).
The show introduces The Urantia Book, a spiritual and cosmological text first published in 1934-1935, claimed to be authored by superhuman, celestial personalities rather than humans.
The Book is divided into 196 papers and contains 2,096 pages; it is structured into four parts:
Part 1: The universe of universes, including the central and superuniverses, creation, and layout of the cosmos.
Part 2: The local universe—our part of the Milky Way galaxy.
Part 3: The history of Earth (called “Urantia” in the book).
Part 4: The life and teachings of Jesus, described as the “icing” on the cosmic revelation.
Reverend Kimmel’s background: Former plant ecologist and nuclear scientist, previously a hardcore atheist, who discovered God through his scientific and spiritual journey.
He has been reading and teaching the Urantia Book for over 45 years, sharing it with the Maui community via Akaku television and live discussions.
The book is described as a cosmology and ethical revelation, offering a unified understanding of God, the universe, and Jesus beyond traditional religious teachings.
– [06:50 → 16:31] Call-In Interaction and Core Themes
The show simulates a live call-in talk show, inviting audience participation.
Key practical information shared:
The Urantia Book is available online and on Amazon.
Local study groups meet regularly, for example, on Sunday mornings in Lower Kula for reading and discussion.
The official website mentioned is urantia.org, where the book is searchable and accessible.
Discussion on how the book relates to Christianity:
It enhances and deepens the understanding of Jesus, presenting him as a more complete figure than in mainstream Christian doctrine.
It clarifies misrepresentations of Jesus, God, and the devil.
Reverend Kimmel emphasizes the importance of asking questions to receive knowledge and truth, encouraging listeners to engage actively with the material and their spiritual intuition.
The Spirit of Truth (also known as the Thought Adjuster in the book) is discussed as the divine presence within every individual, guiding them toward truth and spiritual growth.
– [16:32 → 30:25] Expanding on Spiritual Concepts and Universe Structure
Jesus is described as the Prince of Peace, an ambassador encouraging humanity to live in peace and spiritual understanding.
The book reveals Jesus as Michael of Nebadon, the Creator Son of our local universe, and one of over 700,000 Paradise Creator Sons of God—a vast spiritual hierarchy managing many local universes.
The cosmic structure includes:
Paradise: The geographic center of infinity and an eternal absolute reality.
Central Universe: The eternal core with about a billion perfect worlds that have always accommodated life.
Seven Superuniverses: Surrounding the central universe, including our Milky Way galaxy.
Grand Universe: The collective of all seven superuniverses and the seven absolutes of infinity.
Master Universe: Extending beyond the grand universe, composed of hundreds of millions of galaxies, evolving for future habitation.
This profound cosmology places Earth and humanity within an immense, interconnected cosmic framework, challenging notions of human insignificance and isolation.
The discussion touches upon Jesus’ post-resurrection presence as a morontia being—existing on a spiritual-material level between physical and pure spirit, a concept detailed in multiple sections of the book.
– [30:26 → 40:50] Spiritual Identity, Teaching, and Social Implications
The Urantia Book teaches that every person has a fragment of God’s will as their soul’s origin and is evolving toward becoming a son or daughter of God through co-creation.
The Holy Spirit is described as the daughter of the Creator Mother, who, along with the Creator Father, co-governs the local universe and provides us with mind and spiritual faculties.
The book is presented as a comprehensive integration of science, philosophy, spirituality, and ethics, contributed to by over a thousand human participants over time, not a single author.
It is considered by some as “ahead of its time”, potentially critical for guiding humanity through existential threats such as self-destruction.
Empathy and understanding of self and others are highlighted as central spiritual lessons; knowing oneself perfectly enables understanding and compassion toward others.
The book stresses that Jesus’ mission was to proclaim the Fatherhood of God and the Sonship of Man, encouraging faith in human divinity and the love and service of others as the foundation for world peace.
– [40:51 → 49:50] Addressing Common Questions and Encouraging Deeper Engagement
The idea of the Second Coming is reframed:
Jesus’ second coming is understood as his indwelling presence as the Spirit of Truth, bestowed on Pentecost 2,000 years ago, present in every human being since.
The expectation of a physical return is considered a misunderstanding; the spiritual reality is that Jesus is already within us.
Clarifications about Mary Magdalene:
She was not married to Jesus; rather, she was a leading female apostle.
The Urantia Book is seen as complementary rather than contradictory to Christianity, vastly expanding on the life and teachings of Jesus with new insights.
The hosts encourage listeners to explore the book themselves, open anywhere to receive new revelations.
The conversation emphasizes the need for broader awareness, inclusiveness, and unity among humanity as part of a global spiritual and cultural movement.
Reverend Kimmel’s Peace Inc. background and ongoing commitment to promoting peace and spiritual understanding are noted.
The session ends with an invitation to future shows and continued community engagement.
Key Insights and Concepts
Topic
Description
The Urantia Book
A spiritual cosmology and revelation composed of 196 papers in four parts, authored by celestial beings.
Four Parts of the Book
1. Universe of universes
2. Local universe (Milky Way)
3. Earth history (Urantia)
4. Life and teachings of Jesus
Jesus’ Identity
Michael of Nebadon, Creator Son of our local universe, Prince of Peace, and spiritual indweller.
Cosmic Structure
Paradise (center of infinity), Central Universe (1 billion perfect worlds), 7 Superuniverses, Grand Universe, Master Universe.
Spirit of Truth
Divine presence within all humans; guides spiritual growth; also called Thought Adjuster.
Morontia
Intermediate state between physical and spiritual existence; Jesus’ post-resurrection state.
Second Coming
Spiritual indwelling since Pentecost, not a future physical event.
Empathy and Knowledge
Understanding oneself and divine origin is essential for empathy and world peace.
Mary Magdalene
A leading female apostle; not married to Jesus.
Audience Questions Highlight
Where to get the Urantia Book?
Available online at Amazon and urantia.org; local study groups exist.
Is Jesus married?
No, according to the book.
Second Coming?
Jesus is already present spiritually within all humans through the Spirit of Truth.
Does the book discuss crop circles?
No mention of crop circles.
How to hear the truth within?
By listening and engaging the Spirit of Truth within, reading with openness.
Conclusion
Reverend Jimmy Kimmel Live offers an accessible introduction to the Urantia Book, highlighting its profound cosmology, spiritual teachings, and ethical revelations. The book serves as a bridge between science, faith, and philosophy, aiming to deepen understanding of God, the universe, and Jesus beyond traditional religious frameworks. The show encourages active inquiry, community engagement, and personal spiritual growth, emphasizing universal brotherhood, empathy, and the realization of human divine potential as keys to world peace and survival
Transcript
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aloha welcome to reverend jimmy kimmel live you might think i’m jimmy kimmel but i am not jimmy kimmel i’m jason schwartz and i’m your co-host reverend jimmy kimmel hello jason where did you get that name i was born with it you know there’s a guy that’s out on tv who’s using your name and he’s been using it a while yeah but i think we’re going to reclaim that real estate he’s been giving me a bad name out here well i think he’s okay but he’s he’s sometimes he thinks he’s funnier
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than you oh you know well you know you you guys have a common friend you know oh you know willie nelson no willie of course well willie’s been telling us we should have jimmy kimmel on our show i think now is a good time right now to uh invite jimmy kimmel live to the reverend jimmy kimmel live show what do you think good idea why not you know this show is something that we have done recorded and we have now done oh more than 20 shows and uh reverend kimmel has been doing reading of the urantia book
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many of you urantia you are a-n-t-i-a you’ll see it up on our screen you’ll see images and such the urantia book was a book that came to us when did it come to us and how did that come upon well it came to us in 1934 and 1935 as far as the authors of the of the book convened on our planet in those years and and put it into the english language so this was a bunch of people that got together not people these were superhuman personalities celestial personalities different orders of of celestial beings
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and all this is in the beginning of the book it kind of explains where it comes from and all that yeah there’s an index there’s an index that shows the titles of the papers in the in the authors of the papers i see and so how many papers are there 196 this is a thick book it’s sort of like war and peace how many lots of pages a thousand right easy two thousand ninety six oh okay so so like the the first paper is titled the universal father and his author is a divine counselor so as you go down the list of authors
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there’s a perfecter of wisdom a universal censor one high in authority excuse me one high in authority mighty messenger so now as i’m looking i see you have a section one there’s a section two part two so it’s what four parts it’s a four-part book okay like sometimes i describe it as a three-layer cake and part four is the frosting so part one is about what part one is all about the universe of universes the central and the super universe were creation of the universe yeah well the layout of the universe where
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we’re god’s at i see and what’s the second paper about the second um second part the second part is about the local universe that we’re in out on the edge of the milky way galaxy okay and then the third part is third part is the history of our world of earth your ranch yes of your ranch that’s the name of our world and part four is part four is the life and teachings of jesus the icing as you say let me ask you a question because you know you’re been reverend jimmy kimmel a long time
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before you were reverend jimmy kimmel you were a scientist and a botanist and involved in nuclear tell us a little about that well i spent about 10 years in the nuclear weapons destiny frontier as a as an ecologist a plant ecologist studying the ecological effects of nuclear weapons testing out in the marshall islands i see and then later at the nevada test site and elsewhere and you were a fully devout christian i was a hardcore atheist an atheist hardcore atheist and you’re not an atheist now though no no no no no i
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know god now as an atheist you know it’s not only you don’t believe you don’t know him how many years ago was this that you came upon this when i stopped being an atheist well you know i mean this is a process i’m sure that leads up to you reaching out and finding this book well the only thing that could ever have caused me to stop being an atheist was to discover there is a god and that’s what happened so you as a scientist found god scientist i found god within myself and did this book this obviously no idea i
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had no idea the last thing in the world as an atheist that i was expecting to discover was god and yet this book now this book is like a cosmology of god and the whole universe of infinity and everything in it now this book is a lot and you’ve been reading the book paper by paper to our community through the local akaku here in maui we really appreciate the akaku television station it’s been a great blessing to all of us here thank you for the studio here today truly and we have great group too but
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you’ve been reading them in and people then said well why don’t you interview jim so i’ve been doing these interviews and now right outside here we have people we are simulating our call-in talk show because we’re not broadcasting we hope to do it in the evening and set up a regular schedule but we wanted to do a call and talk show so we have people and anyone that’s passing by and our crew anyone to ask questions of reverend kimmel and um i guess that me but you know because this stuff stimulates a
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lot of things now you talk about part four is jesus i would hope that anyone that’s watching that some christian might reach out and say wow there’s more detail about jesus that would be interesting and you know i grew up jewish and so um i had a different experience in hearing about this i really have been interested in learning and it’s makes it much more real than my experiences when i’ve been just regular reading the bible yeah well this book is is to christianity is to the people of the world
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actually what jesus was to the people of the world of his day he was an ethical revelation of god to man and that the mentality of the stage of man at that point on our evolutionary scale so a couple thousand years ago it’s pretty radically different than now but this book is the equivalent of finding jesus in his day because this book reveals more than jesus revealed during his life yeah as as revealed by the life and teachings that are given here when i’ve been reading you know i i’ve heard some
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people say that christians don’t like to read outside their volume and they think that there’s something that may hurt them anything i’ve been reading seems like um it really enhances and gives more colors like putting a little bit more uh color crayon on more truth is what it’s about in the they are very slow to accept anything that’s new or different that rings their truth bill perhaps but it doesn’t uh it conflicts with their belief but now you’ve been teaching this
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and sharing it with people now what for 45 45 years yeah okay and i know that out here in uh in our audience we have people that are at all levels of awareness of this book are you open to taking calls i know you’re that’s why we’re here and of course any time um we hope that you’ll as we’re talking you’ll call in and ask questions um this book is it available online it’s available i know here’s a big volume you can google it it’s got all kinds of uh references and
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youtube you like to say it’s a book that’s about everything how do you say it is the cosmology if einstein had written the cosmology of the unified field equation it would he would have said here it is this is it but he died before he he died the year this book was printed and so what he was looking for was in a mathematical equation that would explain the existence of everything everywhere to everyone forevermore in other words where did everything come from he said everything’s relative in infinity
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but what’s it relative to well the answer is of course the source the source of everything what’s the source of everything so even he as a physicist he was searching for god but didn’t know it as an atheist and i’m searching for the source of truth the more truth i can discover the happier i’m getting so i i didn’t know i had a spirit of truth in me i didn’t know i was a son of god i had no idea the will of god was within me and then one day the spirit of truth in me revealed to me
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an equation that indicated oh there is a god and this in this god is an infinite person inherently eternal inherently absolute so everything starts out with him as an infinite person and it really blew my mind you might say so was that when you came upon your unified field theory and no that was that was yeah that was that was uh february 69. i see so before the book before if i were to i mean this is a big book i’m going to try to reduce it to two sentences give me give me your first hit what’s what’s the most important
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thing about this book what would be allow it to leave a message it feels anybody who’s looking for knowledge wisdom truth it fills in all the missing links in the chain of anybody’s understanding of how things have come to be the way they are and then some i mean this is this is an ethical revelation this is god’s given us the maximum that we can possibly comprehend as human beings a lot of people i’ve seen that have been reading the book start with part four i guess that’s because it’s most
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familiar the characters and the setup well jesus has been very misrepresented by christianity okay and god has been very misrepresented by all the religions so jesus and god and the devil being the most misrepresented personalities on the world this book clarifies all those personalities so let’s ask our audience to call in let’s see let them kind of ask questions and kind of lead us on where in the book we may want to go you want to do that right i mean i could start at some places but let’s reach out
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to our audience okay all you out there who are calling give us a question we’re going to oppose it this is like the shell answer man we’re going to call this reverend jimmy kimmel live you know you’ve been doing this a long time and oh okay i heard was that a caller yes it is hi hello hot caller hi there do you want to tell us your name you don’t have to if you want but you’re welcome to my name is marilyn hi marilyn aloha hi do you have any question here for uh reverend kimmel i do have a question
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um where would one go to get this book because you have any kind of organized classes that you have to like a study group yeah excuse me as a matter of fact the quickest and simplest way to get a copy of this book is online at amazon.com they mail it right to your home okay and as far as classes are concerned every sunday morning at my place up in lower kula we get together and read the book for a couple hours and have a little lunch and so forth so that’s great and i’ve seen discussions
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happen at coffee shops around the island and maybe you might find this guy i mean this is a very approachable jimmy kimmel there’s a guy that you’ll see on late night tv he has the same name but he’s he is um not as easily available this guy is warm and fuzzy and you can ask him questions live um so have you studied the urantia book at all have you ever looked at the book not too much it’s it’s very deep and um i i guess you learn precept upon precepts as you study and read you know you know what i
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found marilyn i go online to urantia u-r-a-n-t-i-a-dot-org and there’s the book you can actually look at it online make the print big but there’s a search feature which internet provides us which is something pretty special and you can put in jesus or what about relationships or whatever may be your interest in issue op it comes in this i don’t know what we call it a concordex that’s sort of like a way of searching in the document i found that to be a good way to get started what do you think
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any questions that that anybody has about anything that’s the that’s the value of the law of the universe that says asking to receive we don’t know what we don’t know we all start out knowing nothing about everything so to find out what we don’t know we have to ask questions do you believe the lord knows what we need before we ask oh yeah well he’s he’s quite frequently the source of the question that we ask he’s in us we’re in him we’re branches on the vine
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and his spirit of truth is in us so so we’re the posterity and we’re talking to him at the same time i’m talking to you and him at the same time yeah so that’s the beauty of it thank you he sponsors he sponsors the question and the answers that makes sense so thank you marilyn uh if you have any more questions please feel free to call back we’re welcome thank you all right thank you so much you’re welcome aloha it’s kind of a prince of peace enterprises you might say where well you
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know you’ve said that jesus has been malaligned that all religions might recognize jesus and not um the christianity is how you put it a religion about jesus but it doesn’t um i don’t how do you put it it’s not the religion of jesus the christianity the all the different christian churches there are sects of of uh a spiritually divided community they’re all different versions of one thing that isn’t good enough for everybody there’s not a single church good enough for everybody it doesn’t
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matter what it is is that another call coming in that was maybe soon or maybe they got cut off so this book i mean when i sit with you i’m thinking well i’ve obviously gone through some of this with you jesus here on earth is actually who and how how might we it’s very interesting to me obviously and need to grow into it conceptually people jesus is michael hello hello hi this is ann hi ann how are you great how are you all right we have a little bit of feedback you have a question for uh reverend
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kimmel yeah i have two questions okay the first one is how can we more easily hear the truth in us according to the urantia book okay well you as long as you’re listening that’s how you anytime you’re listening you’re listening for truth from wherever it comes we’re all branches on the same vine so like he reveals truth to all the branches and if one branch reveals one bit of information to another it’s like we’re connected to him and so like anything you direct her to in the book
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to focus more on that about the spirit of truth well the spirit there’s a section in the book titled the bestowal of the spirit of truth okay and this is one of the most important things for people to understand and to know is that we have the spirit of the prince of peace the spirit of jesus in us before jesus was jesus he was the sovereign creator of our universe now we’re sitting out here in the edge of the milky way galaxy how did we come to be so how did we come to be out here how did this
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solar system come into existence how did everything that we’re a part of the milky way galaxy how did it all come to be where did it come from how to get here so this book describes um the spirit of truth and describes how we got here and all that comes about that is in this book yeah see part two is like jesus before he’s jesus he’s about the sovereign of our universe this is like the whole story of how our universe came to be it’s a glory a glorious uh revelation is there an introduction about spirit of
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truth and was talking i bet you could find bestowal of the spirit of truth what was it called yeah the bestowal of the spirit of truth 194. people of 194 okay so in the fourth section okay yeah that’s uh that’s all about the best of the spirit of truth on the day of pentecost you’ve read me sections and and shared with me sections about the setup really understanding more in depth about spirit of truth and you call it a thought adjuster is that in directing ann to kind of jump in where where do you think might be a good
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place for her to take a look in here well anywhere really doesn’t really matter wherever she and the spirit of truth in her looking through the index of the titles of the papers you can’t help but just just looking at these titles that’s a great answer i think is to look through and see what attracts you as a good place to start and realize that that as you as you look at this the titles of the life and teachings of jesus you have his spirit of truth in you and as you read about him in his life
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he’ll you’ll you’ll be sharing that with him in you so it’s a very personal experience with the person we’ve known of as jesus only now we can know him as the prince of peace what i find good in what you’re talking is also um i don’t know if ann be christian buddhist muslim jesus as a being and who and what he is in relation to our world is far different than i want to say senior to christianity which is about him this is actually the life and teachings and where it all came from
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okay and i guess in my opinion if whether or not people believe or know where it came from there’s great value in living as jesus lived and in caring and sharing and being much more involved in you know in bringing up the the love concept to excuse me i tapped my microphone sorry group um did that help the first question yes and i have two more questions okay one is does the um ranch of books talk anything about the crop circle and about whether or not jesus was married no it doesn’t talk anything about crop
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circles and it does say it reveals that jesus was never married to anybody okay thank you so much you’re more than welcome so he wasn’t married to uh mary magdalene no no no no no no was there anything about mary magdalene in the book oh yeah for sure she became one of the leading women apostles ah she became one of the leading women apostles he was the leading woman apostle wow after she was discovered as when you read this and i’m sure ann will be or anyone out here do you find any conflict with
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christianity or this is just enhancing really more well it’s it’s more than christianity has ever been exposed to they’ve been exposed to what they know about jesus from the bible or the different the different orders of the different kinds of bibles and you had one more question oh no that was it mary magdalene 53. okay mary magdalene i always when i take a look and sit with you i find that i come back to asking questions social questions a lot of things that um people might ask i’m curious to see what
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questions come from our audience because we live in a very jude i don’t know what even what it means judeo-christian society is there anything about it that is in conflict with this i don’t think so really well this is a revelation of knowledge wisdom and truth and so like um there are plenty of beliefs that may be in conflict with with this with this revelation this is a revelation which is to say most of it comes is beyond what we know the question well you know as i am you know i’m thinking
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to generate questions you know our maybe our audience doesn’t even know what to ask so it’s the greatest it’s the greatest manifestation of god on in the physical level as far as hey uh this is this this should satisfy the mind and soul of any person on this planet that everybody has any doubt about god i’m in trouble with my relationship i’d like to to know what kind of wisdom that kind of question or um what are we going to do to get more people involved in helping humanity and not being so
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selfish or where and how can people look at things in a new way is this a new way is this somehow when i read it it seems to be something that feels it comes comfortably to me but it seems that um the world needs to learn more empathy we had a a director come here yesterday named william gazecki who’s done a bunch of little that’s what ann was talking about that sounds like anne from our crew about crop circles this guy done some short stuff and he was talking about he’s motivated with his documentaries
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because of a desire inside to reach out and find the world to be more empathetic to have a little more feeling anything you might reference in here that might um be good in that way do i hear another question i don’t you know what’s good about doing a call-in talk show demo we get to work at all these bugs we don’t even know it’s going to be we might not even keep that section we don’t hear this um anything that specific jimmy you know i can talk about stuff but i want to give
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some meat to it we’re talking about empathy empathy yeah well again the lack of empathy comes from the lack of knowledge of what each individual in the whole world needs most to know basically because without the knowledge of who we are what we are we can only understand others to the extent that we understand ourselves so god knows us perfectly so it’s on us to learn how to know ourselves perfectly so we can understand others perfectly so when i talk about religion i often find that people
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don’t um they separate their regular everyday life from their spiritual nature you know from their higher more evolved more empathetic nature when you’re talking about wanting to introduce jesus as a prince of peace what are you thinking you mean what was your thought well that’s who he is now he’s the prince of peace of our planet of our world prince of peace meaning an ambassador to encourage others to follow suit the prince of peace is the bestowal son of god to any world the
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jesus as the creator of our universe is of he’s known as a paradise creator son of god okay he’s number 611 121. he is one of over 700 000 paradise creator sons of god who are the ones or they’re the fathers they’re the creators of the local universes that make up like the whole milky way galaxy is made up of a hundred thousand local universes wow so i have a question i hear a question yes hi who’s this this is marilyn again oh hi marilyn hi um i’m wondering if uh reverend general to
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address does his book talk about the second coming of the savior well the second coming is a is kind of a touchy subject in a lot of ways because of in in in many ways he returned to this world as the spirit of truth the as he was bestowed on on the day of pentecost in uh this is two thousand years ago right okay so he’s been the inner he’s been a part of the inner life of every human being that’s come to exist come to exist on this world like i say he’s the vine and we’re the branches
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i mean every human being in the world from the time of pentecost until now they’re they are indwelt you are indwelt by the by the vine by the spirit of truth in the spirit so you’re in him he’s in you so on a spiritual level there’s a little of jesus in all of us is that what we’re saying yeah there’s like a jesus gene or the spirit of truth okay so we can always figure out what he would do or what he would say in whatever situation you may find yourself well at the same time the second coming
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he did promise to return but he didn’t say when or in what connection or anything so like that’s up in here i don’t i never talk about it because he’s already here in my estimation so that’s an interesting point so the second coming in your idea is that jesus is in all of us so he’s already here he’s a natural part of it and many people are expecting to ride down i don’t know from a chariot or somehow be in the sky no he’s inside each of us i discovered him inside me when i was about six years
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old i had to have my tonsils taken up so they gave me ether and i came to after that and i says to my mother oh mama i want to grow up and be just like jesus oh yeah so talk about the holy ghost oh yeah the holy ghost the so-called holy ghost is the is the holy spirit of the divine minister of our of of of our local universe the holy spirit is the daughter of our creator mother our creator mother is the associate of our creator father and these are the co-sovereigns of the local universe of nebadon that we
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are in so she give us our mind our mama gave us the mind with all the different mind spirits of intuition and knowledge and counsel and comfort and wisdom and so forth and and the father of all of us gives us a fragment of his own will to be the father of our soul so we end up becoming partners with god in the co-creation of ourselves as sons and daughters of god well i mean that looks like your bumper’s thicker so well thank you so much well thank you for calling in marilyn we hope that you will uh take a look and
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stay with us as we keep doing more shows and invite everyone to come and look and listen sure thank you again thank you aloha jim i um i’m looking for something to sink my teeth into you know like because i see different sections of this book we we brought some pictures of paradise center hawaii paradise center of a universe which again you you can probably explain it there’s another picture of how it relates to a number of universes and how it relates to an even grander master universe
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talk about feeling insignificant i guess we’re significant because we’re all parts of something great together we’re parts of the whole we are an integral natural part of an infinite whole so so if you’re hurting i’m hurting so all our brothers and sisters together right isn’t that what we’re talking in intergalactically well we all share the same environments basically we’re all different versions of the same thing so now this we have some uh some stills then can you run us through
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this you start with um well the first panel shows uh paradise that’s the big i’m gonna let our group know i think we have them numbered one to four this is the first one huh yeah paradise is is the geographic center of infinity okay and it is in and of itself an infinite absolute and an eternal reality it’s one of seven absolutes of infinity and it happens to be here in hawaii no good heavens no where is it paradise is the geographic center of infinity we’re out here on the edge of the milky
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way galaxy so where is the center of infinity if you looked at the uh at the next section picture number two you’re looking at the at the central universe the eternal core of the eternal universe which is consists of a billion perfect worlds wow a billion perfect worlds and the they’re all enshrouded with these uh counter moving belts of dark gravity bodies that uh prevent our being able to see the central universe from where we’re at so perfect world meaning capable to accommodate life what do you
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mean well they’ve been accommodating life forever this is an eternal universe it’s a central universe it’s an eternal core i see now the universes of time and space are beyond this central core wow that’s a quite a concept to grasp and so in the next picture you see number three you see seven uh uh big galaxies that are going around this eternal central core wow so we’re out here in the milky way galaxy out on the edge of the milky way galaxy so right where where the arrow is
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i’m trying to reference the picture there so we’re at the edge of the uh one of these galaxies that’s at the edge yeah and so we’re going around and around and around and around so that’s not even it right it says another fourth month that’s the grand universe that’s known as the grand universe i see all the universes of time and space come into existence at the same time the seven absolutes of infinity uh actualized so to speak and then there’s a master universe which
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is the master universe goes beyond beyond the perimeter of the grand universe there are four outer space levels wow made up of hundreds of millions of galaxies that are evolving and getting prepared for future occupation by future sons and daughters of god so it’s when you look at it this way and see this kind of perspective those that were standing on earth and thinking they were the only ones or as we like to think of that that we can conquer this universe and go to another planet and take over
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well that’s another subject that we could talk about we’re going to mix our plate um if you have a question please call 873 3430 area code 808 873-3430 i think that um as i’m sitting here the scope of this is so large um i know as i was beginning to find out about the urantia book with you and explore it i felt a little vague and i couldn’t kind of put my finger on things but i felt comfortable so far focusing on the the good works of jesus and i learned more about john the baptist than i ever
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really knew about then he had apostles too who did jesus talk about who did jesus teach about who was the subject of his revelation to the people of his day is this a question yeah yeah who is it god so father his prayer says our father who is in heaven telling me your name so god is his father as well as our father so he was a revelation of our father to everybody in our whole universe to all the different human beings on all the different ways whether anyone believes it or not and the but the thing about
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jesus i think another interesting i don’t know i’m i’m hoping that we’ll get some more calls but to see what questions you have but i would like to think that when jesus came back to his disciples i mean i thought that was interesting when talking to you jesus physically was back but he was at a different level of physical after his resurrection yeah definitely he was on a different level he was on the super physical level of morontia existence i see is that discovered i mean where in the book do i
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find more about that because that’s intriguing you can there are sections in here on morontia all kinds of morontia information which is in the first three sections were you talking about first two to the first two sections mostly it’s it’s it’s the between the the purely physical level of existence and the purely spiritual level existence there’s an in-between zone so to speak of of partly material partly spiritual is morontia it’s like they have a hundred elements of moroccan material
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like we have a hundred elements of physical material so like our the soul that we’re evolving right now is made of morontia materials wow the body that will be occupying on the next level of the next planet that we occupy after after our death we resurrect on one of the resurrection worlds of the mansion world and well everything’s that you’re at the same place spiritually but you’re in a new form you give up this there’s a lot of information here as i’m listening i’m
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thinking this is 45 years worth of uh of study did it slowly grow on you you’ve read this quite a few times over and over i haven’t stopped it it’s pretty much a continuous thing because it it integrates everything it’s the unifier of all the knowledge and the wisdom and the faith of all the different people that have gone before us and contribute anything to this this is not a single author of revelation there’s a lot of human beings that over a thousand human beings that contributed
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to thought that’s in here so it it it pays homage to all the god-seeking people of the period from the times of jesus to now if i were to say what what’s the most important thing about this i know we’re going to be talking and picking on different sections and encouraging audience participation in the future but where where would you say is a place for people to begin i mean i go like this and open to a page but um again you can open it anywhere and it’s it’s a revelation of new
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information and so the purpose what’s the reason this is important for everyone the reason this book is important the reason this book is here is what’s of primary importance really some people that have been into this book for a long time have have suggested that this book is here ahead of its time and that what what’s what they’re waiting for is is the conflagration that’s uh on the threshold of of humanity right now where as we’re looking at the potentials of group extinction
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is contrasted with the potentials of group survival yeah so uh if this book is for after that i don’t there may not be an after that that’s the problem that’s the problem that’s the problem i maintain it has been given to us to educate us with as much knowledge and understanding about everything we need to know to prevent the inevitable destruction of humankind by other humans before it’s too late gotcha so now oh if you ask god a question okay well what’s the most important thing for us
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to know about if we want world peace yeah and and this is this is from the life and teachings of jesus his 16th appearance after he is after his resurrection he tells his apostles i admire you ever to remember that your mission among men is to proclaim the gospel of the kingdom the reality of the fatherhood of god and the truth of the sonship of man proclaim the whole truth of the good news not just a part of the saving gospel your message is not changed by my resurrection experience sonship with god by faith
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is still the saving truth of the gospel of the kingdom you are to go forth preaching the love of god and the service of man that which the world needs most to know is men are the sons of god and through faith they can actually realize and daily experience this enabling truth well that’s very powerful that’s paper 193 okay paper 193 you know that which the world needs most to know as as it comes from the creator of our universe our old human brother the prince of peace all the same person
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as far as it’s our basic cosmic identity if it’s okay with you i’m gonna send these guys home wherever i’m looking alright thinking over here i’m gonna send you guys home with uh a little bit of homework because next time we get together we’d like you to have questions based on you going through the urantia book and finding things that are interesting to you that you may look for some insights and ways of tying it together we want to thank you for joining us today anything that’s important that you know
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you want to cover we could talk about so many different things and we’re going to be doing a series of these shows and i know this is part of an even broader vision because as you know there’s visual art and healing art and music and culture and spirituality and all of it together and we’re building a world of inclusiveness and it’s not good enough for everybody this is a great thing for the world to know that we’re all brothers and sisters and that we all should be i mean your email address peace inc
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at maui.net huh right you were peace inc for a long time weren’t you yeah was a non-profit uh 501c3 in san francisco back in the early 90s i see and uh brought it out here for a while and kept it going for a while but then after it became a one national i just let it slide well i’m happy you came here to do this show with me and i am really looking forward to our audience and you and me getting together and we’re going to be promoting this so people know it’s on um you are an ambassador of peace you know
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sometimes you’re very colorful and you use words that you know sometimes people have to dig and find out you’re really a gentleman jim i i’ve appreciated everything that you’ve done and i’m happy to help you bring this message because it’s a message whatever religion we are whatever groups we are the power of all knowing and recognizing that we together that’s the whole thing you know big time i think well thank you all for joining us we are getting to a close i guess we’re going
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to be over here right over here let’s make sure to say goodbye to everyone thank you for joining us we hope that you will join us again soon and call in and be part of reverend jimmy kimmel live looking forward to seeing you next time thank you jim aloha thank you thank you well you know with here we are look at them there thank you guys thank you was it all right thank you thank you it was
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