LILI TOWNSEND-Ministry of Fun

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Published on 08/20/1997 by

AIRIELLE PEARSON interviews LILI TOWNSEND … Airielle shares fun & interesting conversation with her friend and independent global traveler Lili Townsend. Lili is the head of the Ministry of Fun. She and Airielle spend an hour together in 1997

 

 

Maui neutral zone woman speaking into microphone, indoors.

Summary & Timestamped Transcript Below

[00:01 → 03:07] Introduction and Opening Song
The video opens with an uplifting song emphasizing themes of resilience, family love, and positivity. The lyrics encourage listeners to 
pick yourself up and get on your feet” and stress the importance of community support and love within families. This sets a positive tone for the discussion that follows.


  • [03:07 → 04:58] Introduction of Guest Lili Townsend: Minister of Fun
    Airielle introduces 
    Lili Townsend, describing her as a multi-faceted, talented individual who is affectionately known as the Minister of Fun” on the island of Maui. Lili leads the Ministry of Fun, a global network advocating the credo:

  • “If it’s not fun, don’t do it; if you must do it, make it fun.”
    She is also an honorary member of the 
    Church of One, which promotes a personal one-to-one spiritual connection with a universal source (“the One”). Lili emphasizes that fun is a spiritual state, linked to grace, trust, and forward movement in life. She draws parallels with spiritual teachers like the Dalai Lama, noting the sparkle of fun beneath their smiles.


[04:58 → 07:31] Lili’s Connection to Nature and Dolphins
Lili shares her identity as a 
mermaid, symbolizing her deep connection to water and nature, especially in Maui’s environment. She describes swimming with over 60 dolphins, explaining how the experience is healing, invigorating, and transformative. The dolphin energy is portrayed as a subtle yet powerful vibration that boosts vitality and well-being.
She recounts a kayaking trip to La Perouse Bay where despite choppy conditions, the dolphins were present in force, including playful babies, making it a magical encounter. Airielle and Lili also mention the upcoming whale watching season, highlighting the richness of Maui’s natural “playland.”


  • [07:31 → 12:06] Lili’s Hepatitis C Diagnosis and Initial Response
    Transitioning to a more serious topic, Lili reveals she was diagnosed with 
    Hepatitis C in January (year Not specified). Initially told it was incurable and that a liver transplant might be the only option in the future, she was shocked but responded with laughter and resilience.
    She credits her long-time focus on 
    holistic health and healingsince 1979 for giving her the faith and tools to embark on an alternative healing journey. Lili emphasizes the importance of a positive attitude in overcoming illness, noting that she continues to maintain joy and positivity despite the diagnosis.
    Airielle reinforces that 
    attitude is a crucial part of healing, especially when faced with challenging diagnoses.


[12:06 → 17:05] Understanding Hepatitis C and Traditional Treatments
They discuss hepatitis types (A, B, C), explaining that Hepatitis C is a 
blood-borne virus that causes liver inflammation and was only identified as a distinct strain around 1990.
Lili shares her medical history: elevated liver enzymes detected in 1981 during a general checkup in New York, linked possibly to past illnesses like 
mononucleosis and dengue fever, both of which affect the liver.
Conventional treatments such as 
interferon are mentioned, which only work in about 20% of cases and have severe side effects including depression and fatigue. The treatment is also very costly ($150 per shot, six days a week for six months).
Lili chose to pursue 
alternative and natural therapies instead, which have improved her condition and energy significantly.


  • [17:05 → 21:16] Alternative Healing Steps Taken
    Lili details her natural healing regimen, which began with consultation from 
    Dr. Brian Couch, a naturopathic physician in Maui. Diagnostic tools identified toxicity in her blood, leading to the use of tinctures aimed at:

  • Supporting cellular systems

  • Addressing fungal and viral infections

  • Strengthening liver and adrenal function

She also underwent lymphatic cleansing treatments with Ariel’s light therapy machines, which stimulate the lymphatic system—the body’s network for removing toxins. The lymph system is described as:

  • Separate from the blood system

  • Carrying three times the volume of fluid compared to blood

  • Vital for flushing toxins such as fungus, viruses, and bacteria

Additional natural treatments included:

  • Maui Neutral Zone, indoor meeting with two women speaking into microphones, community event in Maui.Hydrogen peroxide drops to oxygenate the blood (viruses/bacteria cannot survive in oxygen-rich environments)

  • Spirulina and supplements to boost metabolism and liver function


[21:16 → 27:01] Advanced Therapies: Ozone and Ultraviolet Blood Treatment
Lili recounts meeting 
Dr. James Hutton from Sedona, Arizona, who uses suppressed medical technologies such as:

  • Ozone therapy: Oxygen-rich ozone kills anaerobic pathogens like viruses, bacteria, and fungi

  • Ultraviolet blood irradiation: Blood is drawn, exposed to UV light and ozone, then re-injected, a process that rejuvenates the blood and stimulates the immune system

She received 19 sessions of these treatments. Initially, she felt tired due to a detox (“die-off”) reaction as pathogens were destroyed and processed by the lymphatic system. However, about 3-4 weeks later, she noticed significant improvement, including the disappearance of low-grade anxiety and better emotional resilience.


  • [27:01 → 29:54] Quantitative Data: Liver Enzyme Improvement
    Lili presents a homemade graph showing 
    liver enzyme (SGOT and SGPT) levels over time, with tests from July 1996 to September 1997. Key points:
    | Date | SGOT Level | SGPT Level | Interpretation |
    |————-|————|————|——————————-|
    | July 1996 | ~670 | ~670 | Highly elevated, indicating severe liver inflammation |
    | Sept 1997 | ~96-108 | ~96-108 | Approaching normal range (9-37 and 4-40 respectively) |

This marked a significant reduction in liver inflammation correlating with her natural treatment regimen and improved well-being.


  • Carefully reading a book with dog on a sofa in cozy living room in Maui, Hawaii, during daytime.[29:54 → 35:39] Synchronicity and Integration of Healing Modalities
    Lili shares a serendipitous connection where Dr. Hutton knew her Maui naturopath Dr. Couch from medical school, reinforcing her confidence in the healing path.
    She emphasizes the value of 
    combining the best of allopathic (conventional) and naturopathic (natural) medicine—a synergy that offers new possibilities for health and well-being.
    They discuss the challenges of modern medicine including:

  • Over-prescription of antibiotics leading to resistance

  • Side effects of synthetic drugs, particularly petrochemical-based products taxing liver/kidneys

  • The need for preventative medicine, discernment, and self-education in health decisions

The conversation highlights pioneers like Dr. Andrew Weil and Deepak Chopra who advocate integrative medicine.


  • [35:39 → 38:10] The Role of Mind, Spirit, and Ritual in Healing
    Lili emphasizes the importance of 
    mental and emotional healthas part of physical healing. Her work includes genealogical clearing, addressing inherited emotional patterns from family lines through ritual and positive affirmations.
    She explains the subconscious mind’s influence on health, and how conscious awareness and ritual can send healing messages to the unconscious.
    She uses the metaphor of a 
    hologram and the Hermetic principle “As Above, So Below” to describe how inner peace reflects outwardly in life and relationships.


[38:10 → 41:50] Energy Work and Spiritual Practices
Lili describes spiritual practices that raise energy and support healing:

  • Meditation

  • Yoga, especially outdoors

  • Spinning in water (like dolphins) to activate bodily systems

  • Chanting, conscious dancing, hiking
    She wears a 
    Zapot symbol from the Yucatan Peninsula, representing the serpent of wisdom rising to meet the sun’s rays—a symbol of evolutionary growth and energy ascension.
    She encourages self-inquiry to identify and release emotional triggers, using rituals to free herself from inherited fears or resentments.


[41:50 → 46:35] Artistic and Cultural Symbolism
Lili shares a painting by 
Dolphin Dave, symbolizing her shamanic and spiritual life:

  • Depicts an Aboriginal grandfather playing a didgeridoo, dolphins, and a golden-winged figure representing her celestial self

  • Includes Mayan symbols such as the Hunab Ku (center of the galaxy) and the Tree of Life held by a serpent of wisdom

  • Features a dolphin Sacred Water Temple and a large cat companion, symbolizing protection and spiritual connection

This artwork visually captures the multifaceted nature of Lili’s identity blending earth, spirit, nature, and culture.


  • [46:35 → 51:04] Personal Loss and Creative Transformation
    Lili reads a poem titled 
    Phoenix my way out of the ashes”written after her house was burned down, reflecting her ability to find meaning and renewal after tragedy.
    The poem expresses:

  • Release from material attachments

  • Embracing clarity, light, and new beginnings

  • Being a “unit of light” expanding awareness

  • A celebration of the heart, soul, and freedom

Lili shares how this experience deepened her compassion and understanding of loss.


  • [51:04 → 53:21] Nature as Teacher and Inspiration
    She reads a second poem inspired by trees, emphasizing their strength, grace, and healing power. The imagery includes:

  • Trees as unique expressions of life, connecting heaven and earth

  • Metaphors of trees with “upturned legs” diving into Mother Earth, reflecting Maori creation legends

  • Appreciation for silent meditation and natural wisdom

Lili credits nature as her greatest teacher and source of inspiration.


  • [53:21 → 54:41] Closing Remarks and Blessings
    The host and Lili exchange warm farewells. Lili encourages viewers to take control of their healing journey with 
    grace, faith, and fun.
    The show ends with a reprise of the uplifting song from the start, reinforcing themes of community, positivity, and resilience.
    Lili’s story serves as an 
    inspiration that diagnosis is not a limitation, and that combining attitude, natural therapies, and spiritual practices can lead to vibrant health.


Key Insights and Themes

  • Positive attitude and joy are critical components of healing.

  • Hepatitis C is a silent but serious liver disease, with limited effective allopathic treatments; alternative therapies can offer hope.

  • Combination of naturopathic and conventional medicine may provide the best outcomes.

  • Lymphatic and blood cleansing therapies (light, ozone, UV) support detoxification and immune function.

  • Healing encompasses physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual dimensions.

  • Ritual, nature, and self-inquiry are powerful tools for emotional and energetic clearing.

  • Art and cultural symbolism reflect and reinforce personal and spiritual identity.

  • Loss and hardship can be transformed into renewal and creative expression.

  • Community support and connection are vital for resilience.


Quantitative Data Table: Liver Enzyme Levels Over Time

Date SGOT (AST) Level SGPT (ALT) Level Normal Range (SGOT) Normal Range (SGPT) Interpretation
July 1996 ~670 ~670 9 – 37 4 – 40 Severe liver inflammation
Sept 1997 96 – 108 96 – 108 9 – 37 4 – 40 Approaching normal range; healing

Definitions and Concepts

Term Definition
Hepatitis C A viral infection causing liver inflammation, often asymptomatic until advanced stages.
Lymphatic System Body’s detoxification network that removes toxins and waste from tissues, separate from blood.
Ozone Therapy Treatment using oxygen-rich ozone to kill anaerobic pathogens in the blood and tissues.
UV Blood Irradiation Process of exposing blood outside the body to ultraviolet light to stimulate immune response.
Genealogical Clearing Emotional healing practice addressing inherited family patterns through ritual and awareness.
Ministry of Fun Global network promoting fun as a spiritual and life principle.
Church of One Spiritual belief in a direct one-to-one connection with a universal source or oneness.

Conclusion

This video offers a rich, authentic narrative of Lili Townsend’s journey with Hepatitis C, blending heartfelt personal testimony with holistic healing wisdom. It underscores the power of positive mindset, alternative therapies, and spiritual practices in managing chronic illness. Lili’s approach encourages viewers to embrace their own healing journeys with joy, faith, and self-responsibility, integrating the best of modern and ancient healing traditions. This story is not only a medical journey but a spiritual and emotional transformation, inspiring hope and empowerment.

 

 

Transcript

Airielle Dream Makers Mama presents bringing to you today another wonderful wonderful friend of mine I am so blessed this lady is very talented and very very she’s a blessing to this island actually I think that’s what I want to say I know so many people that love her and every time she leaves

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I get to live with this lady every time she leaves everybody’s going where’s Lili but when she comes home it’s like she’s back CU she’s our minister of fun that’s why right that is right so what is her name her name is Lili Townsend I knew that me too hi hi Jason my you tell us about you Lili well let’s see I’m a crystal with many facets my most famous and fun one is Minister of fun that’s right Church of One Tribe of one she’s our prime minister of the minister of fun that’s

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true the ministry of fun is a Global Network of light people that I’ve met on my travels all over the planet and they all swear to live up to The Credo if it’s not fun don’t do it if you must do it make it fun and you get to be an honorary member in the Church of one which says each of us has a onetoone connection with the one what more could we possibly me especially if we want to have fun that’s right we’re sworn to fun that’s right I am a sworn minister in this church of fun you’re doing a great

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job too I want you to know thank you thank you well this has always been one of my life goals you know you this ministry of fun fun is very Zen it’s very streamlined because when you’re in a place of fun it means that everything is working that you can rely on Grace and trust that everything is going to propel you forward on a wave in the river and it’s all going to work sounds like a wonderful Journey well if you have a spiritual connection that really nourishes you it’s fun I mean you look

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in the eye of some very fantastic teachers of our time the Dal Lama the oh name some you look at the sparkle in their eye and it’s there the fun is underneath the Buddha’s smile of the eye yeah The Smiling eyes you have definitely smiling eyes yeah I do my best that’s right and you do a good job your best is very good I’m also a mermaid yes you are that and uh that gives me great Joy because here in Maui when you’re a mermaid you’re between the worlds you’re swimming with the dolphins you’re in the

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watery element of the mother and enthralled by the beauty of Mother Nature the greatest teacher of them all and that water is such a beautiful teacher I know I I wasn’t feeling well last week and Lely went off and she came back and how many dolphins did you swim with yes over 60 Dolphins she and her daughter-in-law who was visiting and they came back they looked they were so beaming and glowing the dolphin energy transforms you it feels like u a a different vibration before and after you come out and you’re

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you’re so vitalized and so alive and it’s very subtle but I think swimming in the energy field of the Dolphins is a very healing and invigorating experience it’s so incredible there’s no no question you know I was saying to Molly lely’s daughter-in-law that I had this experience I think it was the very first time I swam with the dolphins where I just felt their sound vibrating through me for a good 24 to 48 hours afterwards I could hear them it was just so amazing it makes it very high it really does

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how’d you go swimming with the dolphins were they close by well we went out on a kayak and at the end of La pero Bay there they were in spite of the fact that it was a very choppy day and usually on those choppy days they disappear but they were out there in force and we were able to dive off the boat and be with them and we saw at least six babies we saw them flipping over and swimming together the way they do and uh it was an enchanting experience it’s great to be able to live in Maui and have such a great Playland

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right at our doorstep isn’t it it is wonderful to have the friends that take advantage of it we also like to go out and sail boats in the winter time when the whales have come and the whales are here the first have been seen yes I heard that isn’t that exciting can’t wait so can’t wait let’s get a boat soon go watch these whales listen to them yeah it’s true so Lely has a message today that she really well she has a number of messages she wants to bring forth but I know there’s one

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specific right the the message that I have right now is about hepatitis C and it’s uh more of the unfun realm of of my world and yet the lessons and the struggle that we go through are part of the transformation in fact I got a fortune cookie that said illness is the doorway to transformation so I’m taking the high road on this hepatitis C and I wanted to talk to you about it today because a lot of people thousands are beginning to receive the diagnosis that I got last January last January I was told I

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remember you have hepatitis C it is incurable there is nothing we can do to help you later on when there’s sufficient deterioration we can try to help you get a new liver well you can imagine how I received this information I was so shocked I certainly went through waves of fear by the time I got back to my car I was thinking to myself well so they say that all the king’s horses and all the king’s men can’t put Lely back together again and do you know what I started to laugh I sat in my car and I

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laughed good for you well I figure I am very privileged because my focus in life since 1979 has been holistic health and healing looking at the whole being as as an undiv visible part the physical the mental the emotional and the spiritual and all the the sources of healing that I know about all the Magnificent healers that I know across the country and ones that I don’t know yet and so I thought well this is a a perfect challenge for me I have got the Deep Pockets of Faith to help me through it and I have the

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connections of people who are very wise and so I just took a deep breath and decided to start on A New Path of healing and you did a wonderful job you really did and you know there’s one thing I was just thinking here that I think is so important and and that is that your attitude okay just what you were saying I sat in the car and I laughed and you know I’m I’m going to lick this thing is your attitude it’s it’s not going to get me oh they think it’s funny all the pieces but I really believe with the

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work healing work that I do which you and I have sh which I have experienced many times and I know that has been part of my healing well but and thank you very much and I believe that the biggest part is your positive attitude and I I really want you to hear that very clearly because she’s such a blessing and she I hear her on the phone she’s laughing oh isn’t that wonderful you know but it’s always positive she takes I hear people call her with stories and she takes it and turns it around and makes it positive

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and this is what we have to do you know it’s very easy to get caught in the other especially when somebody tells you you have hepatitis C or you have cancer or you have whatever it is that they’re telling you that you have abely it’s tough to work on the bright side and yet I feel like that’s my sworn Mission so I am willing and really happy to share with you how this healing has gone and what steps have been taken and I have some statistics just based on my own healing that are very very

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encouraging so I’ll give you a few steps about uh what’s going on so far okay can I ask a question certainly you’ll be back here in a minute reading some stuff I’m sure to our audience yeah hepatitis um hepatitis C is there a hepatitis A and A B there’s all kinds of hepatitis is problem with the liver I always had heard yes that’s true and was this difficult to diagnose I mean were you suddenly feeling anything that you suddenly had this kind of a diagnosis well it’s I have a history and it

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started the records began for me in 1981 when I was in New York City and went for a general checkup with an endocrinologist and he saw then that my liver enzymes which is how you measure the functioning of the liver they go regularly from somewhere between 9 and 37 on one of the readings and about 4 and 40 on another so anywhere in that range is healthy uh what was found in my tests were that it was up around 670 which indicated there was inflammation in the liver and there was something going on was there something

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that caused you to go for these tests just a general this was a general checkup but I was I was very fatigued and I felt very stred dressed of course being in New York adds a lot to that but I went for a checkup and he asked me about these liver enzymes he said are you an alcoholic and I said no actually I’ve enjoyed a few rums in my time but that’s not uh that’s not really my Avenue what we came to understand was that since I’d had both mononucleosis and Deni fever that that would cause either one of them would be

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uh capable fever Deni is also called breakbone fever and you get it in a in an island kind of a place from a mosquito bite it’s a cousin of area and it hangs out in the liver also mono hangs out in the liver so busy liver very busy place down there I see so so it’s been going on a long time hepatitis A is one strain b is another and this is just something that was resistant to treatments by is that what it is this one has only been disc discovered CED since 1990 they didn’t have the tests

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before they would refer to it as a Nona or a nonb but they hadn’t come to a specific uh understanding of it and identification of it now that that has been revealed thousands of people are discovering that they have it they go for a routine blood check and discover that these elevated liver enzymes are actually this particular virus which see is not touched by any known medicine uh interferon has been used in regular allopathic treatment uh it only works in about 20% of the cases interferon I’ve heard that

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name they use that for other things as well yes interferon is used in uh elevating teac cells and cancer uh oh maybe that’s where heard about it yes and Inter is I think has had very success in certain areas but not in this one only 20% is a very low figure considering that the side effects of interferon include depression and deep fatigue which is kind of what the whole thing was all about I don’t need any more of that plus it cost $150 a shot and you have to do it for six days a week for six months to even feed

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$150 a sh days a week of shs every week absolutely so um I’m going to jump out of the screen here in a second but from what I’m understanding if you didn’t do that treatment then you’ve been taking natural quote alternative treatments is that what you’ve been doing that is absolutely what’s been working for me well you’re looking good what I’m feeling good I’m actually feeling better than I’ve felt in years yeah yes so what are some of these treatments what you

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going to show us when you come back here to the desk where I’m at absolutely I’m going to let you know the steps that I’ve taken that have brought me here to this place where I’m really feeling very much better well why don’t we do a little switch around right now unless you can talk what I was going to say one other thing and that is that you’ve done a lot of different kinds of alternative healing here you know and of course ma we is full of wonderful healers and um we’re very fortunate amongst our friends

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and our close Circle to have a lot of beautiful people available who love you so much well I think the love is working too the love works too along with that positive attitude absolutely so let me just show you some of the steps that I’ve taken okay why don’t you do that I’m going to jump out and Lili’s going to come back to my spot I realized that traditional medicine had really given me the go-ahead to go ahead and try some other therapies that were available to me first of all I consulted Dr Brian couch

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from maaa who is a naturopathic physician he was able to use the diagnostic tool whose Name Escapes me but it works through vibration and it helps to understand what’s going on in the blood for me he discovered that my blood was toxic quite toxic in fact too toxic at that time to attempt a blood cleansing and wanted to work on it instead with various tinctures that I started to take that he would diagnose for me what would be helpful at this time so these things were to support my cellular system to build up my body

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and also to start working on funguses and virus so all of these things started to work I also was having treatments by Airielle which assisted very much in cleansing the lymph system because of course when the blood is toxic the lymph system is very overtaxed and can’t get rid of the toxins fast enough yeah absolutely it it’s very important that we move that stucked stuff so your light machine helped me there very very much and your Echo machine as well can you talk about those what they do well the light beam

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generator is a machine that works with light obviously looks kind of like a gun and has oxygen a neon depending on what gas is coal press gases work with the machine and then it moves into the stuck areas of the body it actually works with moving anything in the body that’s stuck um I so it works on your lymph system it works the lymph system is one of the things that it was designed majorly to work with yes and it helps the lymph system to move and move where it’s been stuck and what is a lymph system the

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lymph system is a lot of the non blood toxins of our body is that what it is yes the lymph system actually moves the toxins moves what we want to flush out of the body through the body the lymph system is all over the body just like the blood system it’s a separate system and it actually has three times more volume of lymph that each one of us has uh compared to blood so it’s totally critical so hepatitis is a blood disease he hepatitis is a virus a virus so the virus is in the blood in the

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blood and usually uh toxins such as fungus are there as well bacterias all kinds of things make up the toxicity of the blood and so uh what Dr couch was working on was all of this full spectrum so that uh we’d be healing the healing the blood stimulating the lymph system and also I was taking hydrogen peroxide in in uh drops of water which helps to oxygenate the blood also uh viruses and bacteria can’t survive with the presence of oxygen exactly so it’s very good to support the blood in that way I was also using

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spirulina I was using various products that uh help to increase the Met metabolic rate I was taking and still am various products of Bine nature to stimulate the liver and adrenal function so it’s been a very broad spectrum of treatment and then as luck would have it and good fortune a friend of Ariel’s Katrina whose name just went right out of my head Katrina Steinberger right visited from Phoenix Arizona Dr Katrina seinberg the doctor herself doctor don’t forget those words she was on our show on we didn’t have

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her as aor they didn’t know she was a doctor I don’t think that’s what they were watching she is gorgeous and she came to be a very good messenger for me because she told me about a friend of hers Dr James Hutton from Sedona Arizona who is working now with some suppressed Technologies he’s working with technologies that are 30 or 40 years old that were suppressed at the time by the AMA powers that be who felt that these Technologies were too simple too effective whoa and were a threat to

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allopathic medicine at that time so these these Technologies were really buried it’s the same story as as solar it’s the same story as many things that have potential that our government has been afraid of however now I feel that as we’re evolving into this century and going close to the next these Technologies are escaping and they are being used more and more in a wider sense by naturopaths and medical doctors are begin begin to understand the effectiveness of using ozone therapy I

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mean ozone is everywhere now in the culture and everyone knows about it everyone knows that it’s anerobic therefore bacteria viruses and funguses cannot function in a blood that is high in oxygen the second technology that Dr James Hutton used with me is ultraviolet light and this was a process where they would take the blood from my vein pass it up through something that looked sort of like a toaster with a ultraviolet light which on the third dimension Spectrum looks like a radiant turquoise

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energy so the the blood would pass up through this light then it would go up into a bottle and in that 100 Millers of blood would be added to ozone so he has an ozone generator that they would fill up big syringes of oxygen and inject it into the bottle of blood spin it around the whole thing would come back through the toaster and back into my vein wow sort of like um uh what do we s like the Mad Science we see in the science fiction movies but it was real huh but it’s real and it’s not mad it’s very

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very San make you feel rejuvenated as it was happening what did you feel well it strangely enough I actually was tired while it was going on because I had a tremendous amount of die off viruses and bacteria and fungus which the lymph was processing through and that’s an exhausting process so that I I got a lot of rest I did go out in the beautiful mountains of Sedona and Hike every day and got a lot of fresh air and sunlight I should also mention that at the inclusion of the light and air they

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would usually attach me to a drip and sometimes this was hydrogen peroxide which also has that same quality of sterilization as well as vitamin C and and uh bees and all sorts of things Dr Hutton would spend 15 minutes I I may exaggerate I’m not sure about the time but he would be putting various components into my IV drip so I would have that I had 19 sessions all together wow and to answer your question Jason uh I didn’t notice the difference until about 3 or four weeks later by this time I was in

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Virginia visiting my family and I noticed gradually that I was beginning to feel so very well I was feeling happy I became aware that for some time I’ve been running with a low grade anxiety and the strange thing was that I didn’t know I had it until it was over and then I could see wellow this feels different I feel different I’m not at all anxious all those little chitchy mindsets that I can get into I can hear them coming up in my mind and I just shrug them off and and I you know I just

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say to my mind that’s not important and I can just move right through it so for me this that is how I’ve been able to judge it at first then I’d like to share with you a graph that I made very homemade here which talks about the two liver enzymes that that we were measuring you want me to hold that for would you hold that up for me now as you can see in this rudimentary graph the below the blue line is the normal enzyme functions where they start for me is up here is where we first started

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testing which is July 1996 and you can see that I started uh on a level the next test was the same what is SG and SG these are both initials for two separate liver functions they are they are liver enzymes and they are the ones that I mentioned C that can reveal the level of inflammatory action inside the liver with hepatitis C as it says in this article this is a silent disease until it reaches a certain point and then it becomes very serious so these are serious points they go up a lot higher

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and someone who has a worse case these enzymes can go up much higher than even these but these ranged from um 96 and 108 at the highest levels and they’ve come all the way down here all these are different blood tests that we took along the way so it goes from July 96 to September 97 and you can see that these enzymes are now approaching a level that is normal and I can see how much better I feel so I can imagine as I continue these treatments how I’m going to feel and I look forward to it with great

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pleasure do you go back to uh Arizona for more treatment is that what happen I will be going back in the meantime I’m going to be working again with Dr Brian couch oh and this was a delicious synchronicity that happened how about the odds against this one I’m sitting there talking to Dr Hutton and bragging on my Maui naturopath and he said well what’s his name Brian couch I went to medical school with him and he wasn’t just a friend he was a buddy of mine so I of course realized that this path is

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very blessed and very graced with that kind of synchronicity I knew I was on on the right track and I knew that basically all is well you know you’re a great testimony to uh the fact that a good attitude and effective natural uh treatment can create radiant help I see it in you I’m very glad to have you on our show to let people out there know that there is just because you’re diagnosed with something you don’t have to give up there are lots of solutions that let you live a not only a seemingly

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normal life but a very normal life in fact absolutely um you haven’t stopped jumping in with the dolphins or anything nothing have you still good do everything no nothing is slowing me down she’s better and better every day that’s right so I see this as a combination of the best medicine that we can have right now and it is available to all of us we can get the best of the allopathic and the best of the naturopathic we have an opportunity that has really never been with humans before

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is that we can combine the healing that has been known for thousands of years by healers by Shaman using natural product that come from the plant kingdom and fortunately now for all of us Western medicine is beginning to really understand that we we can combine the best of each of these philosophies I mean after all many of the synthetic chemicals that are created by the drug companies are based on plant formulas we do have a great deal of thanks to the research that has gone on in the big companies because they have

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brought us to an incredible level of well-being and yet at the same time there has have been side effects of these synthetics for instance uh petrochemical products are now being understood to be difficult for the liver and the kidneys to process and so by in large I totally avoid products that are made of a mineral base that has been processed in that way and I stick instead with natural products and with essential oils why don’t you tell them what you’re talking about with these chemicals what the products are they

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should look for that they don’t want to use uh you can help me on this too you’ve got a great deal of knowledge on this I’m talking you’re doing a great job but I just they don’t know what you’re talking about out there a lot of those well I’m talking a lot about prescription drugs that we need to be cautious with for instance I mean we’re really beginning to understand that allopathic medicine has has been a bit loose in prescribing anti-bacterial and antibiotic treatments

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yes and so great strides have been made in the beginning part of the century particularly as some of these antibiotics were discovered and cures for penic of penicillin affected incredible saving of lives and so we we can see that there’s been a progression and in a sense we’re killing the goose that laid the golden egg because now there are viruses that have mutated to the point where they are no longer being killed off by by these strong drugs by the antibiotics they can’t touch them that’s right well it’s

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like anything else it builds its own form of resistance and that’s what’s happened and you know what you say has so much truth to it and it’s very important for us to realize if this time I believe that where we stand is that we’re at a crosswords we have to blend Western medicine with all these old forms of medicine that we’ve had on this planet for ANS the Western medicine that we have the out what we call allopathic medicine is a gift to us and is a wonderful service and they’ve also been

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doing surgeries for eons of time things like surgery are not new they just did them differently and much better now we’ve got the we’ve got the potential for the absolute best of it all and we do and what it’s about it’s about blending and using preventative medicine Oh indeed and joy and positive attitudes and taking responsibility for our health using discernment because we have got a lot of information out there and I think it’s a bit alarming to a lot of people to think that there is so much going on

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and uh who are the experts who knows well there are some wonderful ones uh Dr Andrew wheel for instance from Phoenix is putting out a lot of wonderful information deot Chopra I mean we have got the best wide spectrum available but it does take self-education it does for me it takes Consulting and naturopath and working in harmony with our own allopathic doctors so that we are the ones who get to decide we can weigh all the options that we receive on the one hand and on the other and we can we can continue

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questioning because it is the most fascinating subject well you know it’s very interesting Lili because in hospitals in London in all over England France when someone is checked into those hospitals and of course their form of medicine is very different than ours and hopefully we’ll get there but when someone has checked in to those hospitals they are asked whether they want homeopathic or allopathic medicine yes they’re given a choice of what kind of medications they want you know and

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hopefully we’re going to catch up with that soon I think we’re going to and if only because we’re having such financial difficulties in our medical world well Medicare uh Medicaid these these institutions are strained to the bursting point and I think that we can look forward to the day when these homeopathic remedies are used across the board uh and I’m sure they will be again very soon and I think it’s Pioneers as we are as a lot of uh friends in Maui represent we’ve been exploring in these

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realms for many many years and we have built up a body of knowledge we do have doctors who are embracing both ways and I think that it’s a powerful time for us to encourage one another to take some of these alternative Roots because now is the time to well we have so many things available to us you know we have allopathic medicine we have homeopathic medicine we have Hands-On healing we have all these new machines that are available I mean this sounds like your journey sounds like space science you know yes but but it that’s

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what it’s about now we have these things available to bring us healing on so many levels We Now understand that our physical bodies are connected to our mental yes to our mental health what we’re thinking about well that’s another part of the Cure that I have been on as well because as well as taking care of the physical and the ways that I’ve described I’ve also been praying a lot I have been out in nature and for me I believe very much in the in the use of ritual for me in the work that I do

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which is emotional clearing work part of the work is called genealogical clearing and the basis of all of my work is that I want to send messages positive messages to my unconscious and in order in order to do that I need to inquire what my self-conscious my subconscious is trying to tell me and because the subconscious mind is truly underneath our understanding I can look around in my life to see reflections of how and what my subconscious mind is going on about because everything is a hologram it’s

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the uh ancient hermetic wisdom As Above So Below as my life is a hologram so in other words if I am peaceful inside my home will be peaceful my relationships will be peaceful if I still have unresolved aspects for instance because of my focus and my work with genealogical clearing beginning with our home lives with our mother’s family lines and her genes with our father’s family nines and his genes and so one way I like to talk about it Airielle is I imagine that we are all magnificent beings of light incarnating through

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birth into a tiny little baby’s bodysuit and this body suit is loaded it is programmed and hardwired with all the aspects of our mothers and of our fathers yes so I believe that is in our spiral path which is why I wear this to remind myself that we are on a evolutionary spiral and give us a clear shot of that let’s take all right have a look it’s actually a zapot symbol from the Yucatan Peninsula from about 800 years ago and for me it means many many things it’s the serpent of wisdom rising to meet the 13 rays of

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the sun it’s the calini energy which is uh something that I’ve also been working with to try to bring up my energy through meditation through doing yoga particularly outside through spins one of the things us mermaids do when we’re out spinning swimming is we spin spinning in the water just like those Dolphins we spin they’ve got the idea to activate all our systems through spinning uh so there are many ways that we can bring our body energy up chanting uh hiking consciously dancing

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dancing definitely and all these ways so uh healing the psyche is definitely part of this cure and anyone else’s self inquiry is very important for us to see what things are still torturing us is there something that our mother says and we we just uh rise up like a helium balloon we realize that those are those are clues that we still have some triggers left that we need to work on and when we do F have a great Insight my great Insight is that in that moment we can have a ritual and that ritual might be something as simple as

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saying I release from all levels planes and dimensions the patterns that I have inherited that have caused me to have this fear or this resentment or this anger and anytime I catch myself red-handed with an Insight like that I release it and I feel that that message goes back to the unconscious mind and the part of my mind that was tensely holding on to that just let’s go and let’s in more light it absolutely does and it’s a wonderful thing to do and you can Proclaim your release you can go stand

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by the ocean you can jump in the ocean with it that’s a wonderful thing to do um and you know not everybody out there is going to have the same Insight that you have Lely I mean each so unique yes but I just want to say this to them because you’re very talented and I hear you talking away and and I know you well and I know how talented you are I know how much you’ve studied over the years we both have yes and we’ve gone through many many different phases of different ways to heal ourselves yes and not

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everybody out there has done that that’s true so I think it’s important for you to to not compare yourself to go well she can do it because she’s got all this information and she’s done all this and well that’s why I’m sharing it because it can take some shortcuts for you exactly and I think it’s important for you to understand understand that the biggest components here are being in joy and being positive and being active and being happy yes you know yes it’s great

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to go back and do all these things with your family lines and do all this clearing and but the biggest important things are things that you can do just for yourself yes you know you don’t have and you can create your own celebrations and your own sacred ceremonies or rituals if if that’s what you choose to call them and and Proclaim your release Lili does it all the time she’s lots of fun to live with speaking of that really right next to you I see a real symbolic view of some of that stuff here the yes

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this wonderful painting tell us what that is this is so awesome this is by our wonderful brother dolphin Dave and uh he painted this for me as a kind of a sum up of my more Shaman life because that’s part of my reality too and sure is like you there it is he put me in there and dolphins around you he put this amazing Aboriginal man I have been very blessed to spend quite a lot of time with Aboriginal people in my travels around Australia so he’s put in this grandfather and this grandfather is

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with his magic digy do he’s blowing through the dimensions these dolphin Playmates of mine so fun and he’s got me in here I love that he put me in he’s got me with one in the pyramid and he’s got me behind a a golden uh he’s got me with a golden wing there and that is one part of me touching my heavenly self and the golden wing of in Enlightenment and the other out in the open out in the green almost to say that my Earth self and my Celestial self are combining there standing in front of the pyramid

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which has a beautiful Dove on flying on top of it great imagery and it has the uh hunab cou symbol from the Mayans which they res regard as the center of the Galaxy ah then he also put in here a fabulous Crystal and inside is a defion of quan Yin stepping out into the infinity and held on the Tree of Life by The Serpent of wisdom and then he’s also put in an aspect of Mama Maui there her profile across the Headland and down below in the the ocean he’s given me a dolphin Sacred Water Temple it’s a busy place and he’s given

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me a wonderful big cat to be my companion I love it it’s really a beautiful painting it’s really like a spiritual it’s lots of fun it is and it dep depicts who you are so beautifully you know it’s all these little different pieces of you that um make it all so wonderful well dolphin Dave’s got a great sense of humor he does he’s a wonderful artist so you know ly also I don’t know if you recognized any um similarities here but we’ve had her mother on our show which a

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lot of you out there have expressed you loved her so much her mother is Elita El ly maybe you’d like to join on the couch would like to join I think first she wants to share something else here well I know that you’re talking about Elita who is my idol as far as a poet right exactly well that was just what I was getting to funny you should mention it funny I should mention it but l a poet so I write about uh experiences in my life and this one entertains me a lot I’m going to show you a a photograph

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of a picture that appeared on the front page of the Maui news last year and here it is can you hold that up Airielle and I’m going to read you a poem that came a little while later came as a result of this picture so you can imagine that having my house burned down was a distinctly unfun experience and yet a few months later I was able to come up with this poem Mystery Woman Who Are You Now who without veils and masks is the real you I ask oh P thank you for your gift of sacred fire my possessions and

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Recollections burned upon your so personal P if this is your blessing and this is my gift surely it’s time now for a paradigm shift I Phoenix my way out of the ashes my props from the past of Adventures and passions no longer required only Clarity desired who am I now a unit of light a point of awareness that observes my delight a Mee that’s expanding who feels deeply and knows where I place my attention the energy flows I’m a woman of heart so spicy and juicy my judgments of old have at last

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turned me Loosey with New Freedom I merge with ineffable soul I know now it’s safe to relinquish control in the breast of the Goddess I feel my strong heart it’s beating repeating time now for a fresh start with renewed Joy I feel so complet to dance and to heal new rhythms to beat my heroin dwells in this heart so pure the essence of me that always endures spirals of color vibrant and true flow through my being forever new yay that was I Phoenix my way out of the ashes that is what an outcome of this

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destruction it has been amazing I I I didn’t think I had it in me that was very very beautiful I know it was really big for you it was big it was big it’s not an easy thing to havea cleanse when you lose all your possessions and uh I had uh eight other friends who lost it in the same fire and uh we really understood on a deeper level what that means and can be a lot more compassionate to other people having challenges with their stuff all the stuff we collect all the stuff George Carlin knew didn’t he

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talking about stuff that’s a great great people have teased me for years about that you probably could guess because I am such an accumulator of stuff such great looking stuff though I love it have another one you wanted to share with this a little bit naughty a little bit risque I hope that they don’t classify this in our show well we’ll have we’ll mention it that way they’ll put it on a different hour I don’t think it’s that risky no I don’t either no it’s not bad but this is

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about I think my greatest teacher in my life and where my inspiration is absolutely guaranteed is in nature and so this one’s about trees moved by trees am I unique expressions of strength Grace Whimsy awe upturned legs tree beings diving into Mother Earth provocative crotches silky pine needles soften barked curves of Yoni and Dick Mossy crevasses do dropped luscious upthrust branches strategically placed young trees Li coltish ancient trees trees grizzled wise your leafy antenna transmute light earthing the

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universe healed by trees am I knock on wood bless you trees for your silent meditation I dance in your flowing field you unite Heaven and Earth As Above So Below yay that’s so beautiful I can just picture these trees diving into the Earth you know it’s so great I love that picture I had never had that picture before once you see those upturn legs you laugh you walk through and you say oh look at this one their legs look at this one and then when I went to New Zealand and spent some time with Mai people I understood

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that that’s part of their creation Legend oh really that the tree beings Dive In space they dive into the Earth they leave their legs and they keep on going to the Center of the Earth you it wow how wonderful why don’t you come down here and give me a hug all right all right darling okay my darling thanks Airielle thanks Jason it’s been such a pleasure to have you today on the show it has been really fun for me you’re such a delightful delightful woman and so talented in so many ways and it’s really

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a joy for me to be able to bring her to you and share how wonderful she is with all of you I hope you have had the same great experience of her that I have and I thank you for joining us anything else here you want to add I’m delighted to be able to share this information may it go forth and Inspire others to take control of their healing with Grace and Faith and fun thank you Lely thank Airielle you are an inspiration and I I really hope and pray that so many of you out there today have gotten inspiration from this and know

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that you too can make these changes in your life and you don’t have to sit back and say I have this therefore I can’t do anything about it you can you can together we do and we are all one so God bless you and aloha aloha

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