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The Neutral Zone with Jason Schwartz (May 13, 2019)

[00:00 → 06:37] Introduction and Overview of the Show

• [00:00] Jason Schwartz opens the show welcoming listeners to the Neutral Zone on Monday, May 13, 2019. His scheduled guest is Kimokeo, a well-known figure in the Hawaiian paddling community, who unfortunately is running late.
• Kimokeo Kapahulehua is highlighted as a busy and respected community leader involved in Hawaiian canoe paddling, youth mentorship, and cultural blessings, including for new businesses like restaurants and car rental places on Maui.
• Jason reflects on the local situation, referencing a current missing person case (Amanda Eller) and connects it to others who have experienced personal loss, underscoring the community’s concerns with empathy and hope.
• The show broadcasts on KKUA 88.5 FM and streams online via MauiNeutralZone.com and Facebook Live, emphasizing the station’s efforts to be accessible and interactive.
• Jason acknowledges the show’s sponsors, including the Maui Arts and Music Association and David Bryan, founder of the New Roads School in California, who provides ongoing support.
• He stresses the importance of private sector involvement in solving local issues such as homelessness, development, and affordable housing, expressing skepticism about governmental solutions being sufficient.
• The Neutral Zone aims to be a platform for open, sensitive, and balanced conversation on Maui’s pressing issues, mixing positive guests with those addressing more challenging topics.
• Jason also touches on media literacy, questioning what defines credible news in a world of misinformation, referencing recent news about 5G technology controversies and the role of major news outlets.

[06:37 → 16:18] Community Challenges: Housing, Development, and Sustainability

• [06:37] Jason discusses the urgent housing crisis on Maui, noting skyrocketing prices, lack of affordable rentals, and the influx of retirees or newcomers who often lack steady income but seek property ownership.
• He calls for emergency measures and private-public partnerships to address these concerns, mentioning potential collaborations between landowners, schools, and nonprofits.
• Traffic congestion and overpopulation are highlighted as symptoms of rapid growth without adequate infrastructure or housing.
• Jason underlines the importance of community-based solutions rather than relying solely on government intervention, advocating for faster action and more innovative housing models.
• He shares his frustration with the current saturation of services and infrastructure, emphasizing the need for balance between tourism demands and local residents’ quality of life.
• The show plans to feature guests who can commit to concrete solutions, including political figures like Maui’s Mayor Mike Victorino and others involved in development and sustainability.
• Jason also brings up ongoing discussions about environmental concerns, such as 5G technology safety debates, illustrating the complexity of modern challenges.
• Throughout this segment, Jason stresses community involvement and the power of individual and collective action in shaping Maui’s future.

[16:18 → 26:44] Music Interlude and Further Reflections on Community and Media

• [16:18] Jason introduces a musical break featuring a song titled “Unlocked” written by his friend Lono, which emphasizes unity, hope, and personal responsibility for change.
• He reflects on the importance of music and culture as healing and unifying forces in the community.
• Jason discusses the role of media, both traditional and new, highlighting the station’s efforts to provide live, interactive programming that blends news, culture, and community dialogue.
• He mentions the challenges of misinformation and “fake news,” advocating for clarity and truthful communication.
• Jason talks about the importance of private sector funding and community sponsorships to sustain independent media and grassroots initiatives.
• He introduces the concept of an affinity program designed to funnel revenue from everyday utilities and services into nonprofit work that supports Maui’s needs.
• Encourages listeners to participate actively in community media and sponsorship to keep the conversation alive and solutions moving forward.
• Jason stresses that while government has a role, real progress relies on private sector leadership, community collaboration, and individual commitment.

[26:44 → 37:55] Community Resources, Upcoming Guests, and Broader Cultural Initiatives

• [26:44] The show highlights local resources such as IKKAU Maui Community Media, which offers free workshops like iMovie training for community members to develop their own media skills.
• Jason introduces youth-oriented programming focusing on island culture, trends, and local issues, emphasizing the importance of involving young people in community dialogue.
• He shares a list of potential upcoming guests, including prominent local leaders, cultural advocates, environmentalists, and media professionals such as Albert Perez, Alice Lee, and Shan Tsutsui.
• The show aims to cover a broad spectrum of voices from politics to arts, reinforcing its role as a community forum.
• Jason also touches on the challenges of scheduling and the need for flexibility in booking guests while maintaining topical relevance.
• He expresses a desire to avoid sensationalism or unsubstantiated claims, focusing instead on fact-based, respectful conversations.
• The segment ends with Jason reaffirming the show’s commitment to honest and thoughtful discourse on Maui’s pressing issues.

1. 1. 1. 1. [37:55 → 43:10] Hawaiian Culture, Canoe Paddling, and Personal Reflections

• [37:55] Jason revisits the scheduled guest, Kimokeo, noting that although Kimo is not present, he remains a central figure in this conversation.
• He recounts meeting Kimo decades ago, highlighting Kimo’s deep involvement in Hawaiian canoe paddling, youth mentorship, and cultural preservation.
• Kimo’s foundation supports Hawaiian paddling worldwide and young people’s education, contributing significantly to Maui’s cultural fabric.
• Jason also mentions Kimo’s role in performing blessings for various community events and businesses, underscoring his spiritual and cultural leadership.
• He reflects on the changes Maui has undergone over 30 years, from shorelines to urban development, stressing the need for environmental consciousness and community stewardship.
• Emphasizes the importance of collective responsibility in protecting Maui’s natural resources, including reefs and water quality.
• The segment ties cultural preservation and environmental sustainability closely, underscoring their interdependence for Maui’s future.

1. 1. 1. 1. [43:10 → 50:15] Music, Arts, and Community Engagement

• [43:10] Jason transitions to a musical segment featuring Louise Lambert, a local artist known for her peace-themed songs and teaching.
• He praises the island’s rich artistic talent and the need for more venues and opportunities to showcase local music and arts.
• The show promotes Maui’s creative community through collaborations with the Maui Arts and Music Association and other cultural organizations.
• Jason discusses the importance of media training and youth involvement in arts, highlighting the role of local colleges and community media centers.
• He underscores the need for interactive, multimedia approaches to community engagement, blending music, education, and social issues.
• The segment ends with Jason playing another song, “Star the Road,” reflecting the show’s integration of music and meaningful dialogue.

1. 1. 1. 1. [50:15 → 55:08] Closing Remarks and Future Plans

• [50:15] Jason shares insights about the music industry’s collaborative nature, blending various genres and talents.
• Reflects on the fun and spontaneity of studio recording sessions, connecting them to broader themes of creativity and community.
• Announces plans to invite future guests, including Albert Perez and other local figures, to continue expanding the conversation.
• Thanks listeners for their patience and engagement, emphasizing the show’s role as a platform for diverse voices.
• Closes with a hopeful tone about Maui’s future, balancing challenges with opportunities for growth and cooperation.
• Encourages ongoing listener participation and support for the show and its mission.

1. 1. 1. Key Themes and Insights:
2. Community Engagement and Media: The Neutral Zone serves as a vital forum for Maui residents to discuss local issues, blending live radio, online streaming, and community media resources.
3. Housing and Development Crisis: A central concern is the urgent need for affordable housing and sustainable development, with calls for private sector leadership alongside government support.
4. Cultural Preservation: Hawaiian canoe paddling and cultural blessings are integral to Maui’s identity, with figures like Kimokeo playing key roles in youth mentorship and cultural continuity.
5. Environmental Stewardship: Protecting Maui’s natural resources, including reefs and water systems, is emphasized as a collective responsibility essential to the island’s future.
6. Media Literacy and Information Integrity: The host stresses the importance of discerning credible news from misinformation, advocating for balanced and fact-based reporting.
7. Arts and Youth Empowerment: Music, arts education, and youth-oriented programs are highlighted as essential for community vitality and cultural expression.
8. Private Sector and Nonprofit Collaboration: Innovative funding programs and partnerships are proposed to generate sustainable solutions for social and economic challenges.

1. 1. 1. Keywords:

• Maui, Hawaiian canoe paddling, Kimokeo, affordable housing, community radio, media literacy, environmental sustainability, cultural preservation, private sector involvement, youth empowerment, Maui Arts and Music Association, nonprofit funding, interactive media, local leadership, tourism impact.

1. 1. 1. FAQ:

Q: Who is Kimokeo and why is he important?
A: Kimokeo is a respected Hawaiian canoe paddling leader and cultural mentor who supports youth education and community blessings across Maui.

Q: What is the main focus of the Neutral Zone show?
A: The show focuses on open dialogue about Maui’s social, cultural, and environmental issues, promoting community involvement and factual discussion.

Q: How does the show contribute to solving local problems?
A: By providing a platform for dialogue, connecting leaders and sponsors, and encouraging private sector partnerships to address challenges like housing and homelessness.

Q: What role does music play in the show?
A: Music is used to inspire, unite, and engage the community, featuring local artists and encouraging cultural expression alongside serious discussions.

Q: How can listeners participate?
A: Listeners can call in, attend workshops, become sponsors, or get involved through community media outlets promoted by the show.

This detailed summary captures the key points and structure of the Neutral Zone episode, reflecting its mission to foster informed community dialogue and cultural connection on Maui.

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[Music] it’s Monday Monday May 13 my guest is an air but you have me Jason Schwartz and this is the neutral zone welcome a little bit after 11:00 my guest Kimokeo is still paddling his way in Kimo ko Kappa hula hula who you many of you know has a foundation here and only reason I can say his name I know him a long time he’s a running guy you know you see him and when you try to have a meeting with him 12 people come up and they’re talking with him and he trying to return calls and be on time well we

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have a guest today who’s known by many of you he has died he did the blessing I understand for the airport for the car rental place and he’s active were with kids and in canoe and I want to call it canoe Hawaiian paddling for years and he’s doing blessings for openings of restaurants coconuts here on Maui and around the world so he’s a busy guy so I expect to see him one of the staff here said they’d see him after the show so I expect to see him here and I look forward to it in the meantime

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I’m happy to be here with you this is an interesting Monday morning May 13 2009 teen there’s a lady named Amanda eller who they’re searching for up in the forests of here in Maui Makawao and above there and a name came to me of someone else who was searching for their daughter and someone else I know in the mainland who used to live here is Charles Davis and his daughter was lost years ago and seems to be a lot of question I’m not bringing up any negatives I’m praying that she is safely

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found and okay and everyone is wonderful I just have so many areas that I seen this morning I like to bring good things which is why I have chemo ko we had Dwayne Elliot talking about boys too man we’ve had a lot of very positive guests and a lot of people talking about issues some positive some not so positive team okay if you’re listening I’d be surprised kak you 88.5 FM on your dial also found on tuned in on your phone and you can put it in and choose it as one of your favorites and check in and see

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all kinds of great shows here take a you I don’t think 88.5 FM it’s because it’s line of sight if you’re in Kihei you may not get it well or at all because you have to wonder where’s the top of ikkaku building where the radio is being broadcast from but we also have Maui neutral zone comm you can hear all our shows there and Facebook live so you know we’re set for the big time here and being visible Maui neutral zone calm links back to the Maui Arts and Music Association I just heard the opening

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commercial was Maui Arts and Music Association in fact our current sponsor for these we do it in three-month increments you can be more than that but David Bryan is our sponsor David Bryan is the founder and head of new Road School in Los Angeles in Santa Monica California he built four campuses and I they have 700 students he was there from 1995 to 2013 he’s also the chairman of the board of the Ojai Foundation and he’s a director at brave new films he’s always inspired me to a greatness

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he’s my little brother he’s my brother David and you know we’re here at the neutral zone and when I mentioned to him what we were doing he said Wow can I be a sponsor anyone can be a sponsor you know there’s a guy named David Pakman who you’ll hear on Pacifica Radio I think they may carry that even on this station and it’s amazing to me because there are people all around the world now listening to these shows about all kinds of interesting subjects that’s why with what’s happening this

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you know hope amanda is found but we’ve had some things going on here lots of things involving the Maui getting larger and one of our original sponsors was Nick grants Nick has the Maui miracle org he’s still a sponsor you’ll see him on our website we when you’re a sponsor your sponsor forever we appreciate and include you in to this vision and this vision is we have all the answers the government would like to check in with them and see how they’re doing to help us but we have all the answers and

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we’re the one doing it if the government has rules and you think that the few dollars that are coming through the government are gonna solve all our problems I think you’re very short-sighted because it’s the private sector that has the money and the roots and the land and the control of all the action and all the activity so we’re gonna have good people on about homeless we’ve had a couple of people that were in the system we’re going to talk about development we’re gonna bring people in

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and put them together with other people right here on the air and we hope that all of you will join in you know we have eight oh eight eight seven three three four three five we have the capacity to be a call-in radio station we just don’t have the listenership and always I don’t yet but I want everyone to be realizing that this is interactive communication here and we want your input and we’re the neutral zone we want to talk about all things and all kinds of things about issues I have a lot of things that come

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at me and come to me that some are sensitive and I don’t care to just blurt things out irresponsibly so I’m hoping to have interesting guests that and are sensitive and in the news I don’t like the book my shows too far in advance you can see here Kim okay oh we spoke he was on his way to Japan and didn’t go because of what’s going on with the weather I’m hoping that he’ll show up here soon if not we’ll just keep talking like this and I’ll be playing some music

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and bringing up stuff and I watch in the new I see an article in The New York Times that says the Russians are behind the idea that 5g is a problem well before there were Russians there were 5g specialists and 4G and three deborah green was one of the guests on our show you should go and watch that show again you should talk to Deborah green as well but you know I’m watching the news and seeing twists and turns what makes something real news if I tell you something is that fake news because I’m

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not bonded by as a New York Times reporter or the Maui News or the Maui Times or you know what makes it didn’t Ali watch and Maui now come on the scene what gave them was it people watching and does where is credibility where does it begin and end how do we know what a world we live in and so that’s what we’re gonna do here at the neutral zone and whether you’re from Maui are from Oahu are from wherever you are we are all one working at this and working at this a long time you know and I remember

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when I first met Kimokeo under another name he ran for politics that was in the middle here in the 90s but he’s a very I think it was 90s you know time runs on maybe it was 2000s I’ve seen so many incarnations of people here you know I was telling him I think it’s very interesting that he’s been able to quote walk the line there are many camps of Hawaiians that are really strongly against tourism and you know would like the government to change today like the possession to change today hands to change and then

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there are those that don’t want to have anything like that happening in theirs we have classes of society right now if I don’t have people on the mainland saying they want to come here they got $75,000 because their husband just died and they’re coming to Maui I want to buy a condo and I said well do you have any income no okay so you’re gonna come and start a business here okay so they’re 70 years old and there’s 75,000 let’s say they’re going for a loan and an average condos for forty four hundred

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and forty thousand let’s cut that in half and then cut it in half again and you still see this place is overpriced our rentals are overpriced we have to do something on an emergency basis I’m I would like to have Kasia kama come on I’d like to and I’ve had a couple of council people that were on already before they would council people and even our mayor before he was mayor mr. Victorino in fact he’d be a welcome guest here I haven’t even asked him yet because with so many things going on

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we’ve had some terrific guests on our show we had Brian Cohen who runs the creative media program at the University of Hawaii Maui college and Barry worst film critic fantastic teacher really we had an amazing world cinema class he’s got all kinds of plans and both of these guys and and just an amazing Island we’re living on and that’s what we like to share here but housing and these problems that I’m talking about I don’t think can be solved at a governmental level I think

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that the answer is us if I ask good fellow why an a and B to be partners and we bring in third party and we have a non-profit to be able to launch the housing project and we have plans from these guys and we have land from here and we know a long-term where to get water from the air from the during the water supply all these things exist right now and I don’t think that they’re not happening I think they are happening but they’re not happening fast enough and you know when when I was talking

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earlier I go all over the map we are saturated here we only have so much room try to get from point A to point B used to be 15 minutes now there’s traffic and and not only is there traffic it’s glut that’s just beyond and there’s no housing that’s affordable and people on the mailing that want to come here and buy but can’t afford even to start the process they want to rent but they have $1,500 thousand dollars for room in a house what so we talk about all kinds of stuff like that when the time is right

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I’m not sure why I came okay oh isn’t here and I don’t think calling him during the shows the way to go but uh we’ll find out I’ll let me play you a piece of music now they always wonder what am i playing I’m gonna play a piece of music that was written by my friend lo no gave me permission to play this song it’s called unlocked the hope he wrote this we were in Maui meadows we went over to see Jack Lewin who was speaking across the street at someone’s home and Alona came home and wrote this

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song and asked me to sing it I love this song let’s gather round and let us meet us for you but nothing changes unless we are black the time has come to make a change the time has come to a Pablo that is in each and every one of us and we must do our part we hope the visions your dreams of our hands can use the ones we love let’s gather round and let us make the stick for you and me there’s a better life Allah will be no turning back but nothing changes unless we are one but nothing changes unless we are walked

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though but nothing changes unless we [Music] [Music] Wow that was recorded even know how many years ago Renato glass gone he had a studio in PA and that’s him we met when I came in with lono and recorded a few songs lono has written some beautiful songs and um one of these days we’re gonna have music here in the studio I’m going to do something recording remote but also we’re going to have some live musicians here doing it probably on an acoustic set to not really can’t do more

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out we might do it in here some of these other shows bill best and bill and Bobby have music sometimes in their show and some of these other guys so we’ll say well gonna do something maybe as a station and maybe even bigger than a station maybe Grand Central Station came okay or if you’re listening please sign in we’d love to have you come on in anytime we when I have a show like this with no show it’s only happened a couple of times actually happen with the same person twice and she will be here some

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time as our guest but um I know that when I get rambling I get brutally honest and so we’re gonna slow that down we’re gonna do some music if I’m brutally honest it’s mostly because of the frustration we have too many people for the services and too many people for the roads and too few places to live for too many people and we are oversaturated and how to solve that by pricing people coming here unless they own a place or unless they have a lot of money making it on Maui what are we gonna do

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we don’t have people here to serve these tourists coming and we’re gonna what we’re gonna do we’re gonna house people it’s getting to be really really crazy so I think it’s an emergency so um I invite Mayor Victorino I’m gonna probably talk to these guys privately but I you know no one’s tapped the things that we have to offer here and there are plans and I liked and think they’re very very what’s the word less than what’s needed got to multiply it by

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ten or by a hundred or lots of things so we’re gonna talk about that below we’re gonna be encouraging guests that can actually say yes we’ll commit that and yes we would do that if we did this Shan Tsutsui is gonna be our guest and we have people that are Maui tomorrow Sierra Club Lauren pang talking about 5g that’s funny that that came up as a NACA COO show on my feed in Facebook the day the New York Times has a story about Russia being the 5g culprits that provide that 5g is perfectly safe I

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don’t who’s saying that and it’s interesting it’s in the New York Times anyway to be continued when I saw the name eller amber who’s been lost and then in the same article I saw the name of someone that was just mentioned to be on Friday who wanted to talk to me I’m hoping that this show can be a valuable part of the Maui Talk fabric and like time like now the call and have you on eight seven three three four three five please feel free to call in anyway I was just telling you we have a new sponsor

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that happens to be my brother and you know when I saw brave new films and then I found that he was on the board I realized you know we are been doing stuff he’s been started a school he was you know it interesting we both went to college in New York University of New York State University at Stony Brook and a lot of things have happened in our lives a lot of a lot of untapped opportunity to cooperate that hasn’t happened I think it’s the old story of too much to do and too little time and too little

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money well that’s why I encourage us to look at private sector involvement because what Jesus said you know when in Rome give the Romans what they want but we got something else so we can get the solutions and whoever will own it that may not be as important as the functionality and the use and solving some of these major problems where the government can help us but they don’t need to be the source of the funding or the the impetus for the action that’s us now there have been different groups

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doing these things but I think that if we openly talk like this and and more that we can create enough projects to immediately immediately address some of these problems in a big way and bring things down to somewhat a quiet roar you know I have people tell what the businesses talking to me telling me we don’t want to see $15 an hour well it’s going to only force our prices up and give us less employees because we need the money to and and now we have the thing going on with the tariffs with China changing and all

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kinds of uncertainty what happens if Walmart suddenly doesn’t have as many products because they’re or they have the same products but they don’t have the things we want and the prices are higher and we’re gonna start making and waiting for this we’re on an island remember so who wins in that kind of a battle Amazon where you go looking for things farther away and suddenly retail closes up and it’s going to be a very interesting time you know we have complicated our lives

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through all our brilliance in creating all these newfangled systems and internet and wireless and super wireless and faster and more power and more waves and more cancer and more people sick from what there eating and talk about GMOs all the time you know I think some people are so sick and tired of hearing these things because they figure that everyone would not want these things to be in our foods so we see more response from a Costco we see things like that but again things in the hands of the few and someone doling

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out to us so self-sustainability takes separate individual participation in all kinds of things and the the farming and all the things going on with a new land developer look forward to talking to him here and having you guys check in both with questions and involvement and maybe some of you even want to be here on our show any word from Kim okay oh I would think that he would be walking in but I’m not gonna call him while we’re on the air let’s listen to another here’s a song there’s one called love is what you make

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it I wrote this with a guy that from England called David named David simian he wrote some great songs but this one’s love is what you make it [Music] bacon little since 1917 memory lane [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] it’s so interesting I’m listening I’m hearing all the parts these are some of the basic tracks as a guitar overdub this guitar player was an Iron Butterfly named David Doran Brian butterfly black really dates me the drummer ken Park

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played with Donna Summer she was a hot stuff baby this evening Jim Brennan on keyboard he’s a preacher in Florida how funny to listen to that stuff all right way no I don’t think Kimo Kayo’s coming what do you think let me just see it’s 827 it’s just perfect time for us to get ready for some of our sponsors some of my sponsors we’ve had no coin motors and we’ve had common alone Richard Dan wonderful guy Richard Dan and Rick Tolan at no coy motors these people felt it was important to

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support radio and free speech and me on the airwaves and so you know television is a different animal but radio we need support from our community so if you’re so moved we would love to speak to you to be sponsors of our show and be able to help support live a radio if you will on Maui the neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to thank Maui Arts and Music Association three makers Foundation of Maui for their support since 1991 hundreds of television shows and their maui arts and music comm website they

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have champion self sustainability on Maui the neutral zone is heard live Mondays at 11 a.m. and replayed Saturday at 7 a.m. on kak u 88.5 FM your voice of maui otherwise you can get live radio but you can’t get it here in free way like we do here we’re a minato is a station you know them but we’re right next door and right with ka k you is ikkaku Maui community media and now in fact we put our shows on TV to try to drive more people here to the radio so that you can hear us on at tune in at

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the Monday 11:00 am also Saturday at 7 a.m. we’re live on ikkaku which is that you can find on ok aku 88.5 FM radio and we’re also at Maui neutral zone calm anytime all of our shows are there and they’re all up on YouTube as well so you can find some of our shows and some of our guests some of our shows and some of our guests you know these are like little bulbs of light that’s what I’m seeing and they all come together and have a picture I’ve been building this picture here for 25 years and talking

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about it the Maui Arts and Music Association is that an active doing organization we’re holding open a date I want to say holding open a gateway a doorway a marketing door way for Maui’s art and music and culture around the world that’s what it is it’s a marketing doorway it’s a matrix now there’s some of the things that I talk about on the show and I get rambling like I do here now our just idea is there not me doing them they’re just like it’s not unique but it’s a place we’re a forum to be able to

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bring in someone like good fellow or maybe there’s a guy that’s off Island there is a gentleman who I don’t know if he’s owner or was owner of a large distillery company alcohol and he did some things here on Island to preserve some plants and has a foundation set up and we met in an unfortunate event the funeral of a mutual friend in fact but a guy like that has the money and capacity and others to be financially involved to be able to create things in the private sector but we could solve some of these

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problems sometimes I wonder whether the people that are able to make money Everitt Dowling for example or people that are working on projects for years that are long vision like Maui that I don’t even know their name I forgot the 640 that’s next to there and above Wailea Maui meadows and all that’s gone what that is big high profit thing but we have needs for the local people and we can either do it the hard way which is what we’re doing or do it the easier way which is you some of the

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technologies of the world has and get some people that are not from here who have vision or share our vision that have money whether it’s since as individuals that we’re doing it 10 and 20 and I have a program that’s just been started with a company it’s called the affinity program this affinity program says if you have in fact they they’re a base of utility kind of bills a phone bills and Dish Network and ok and they give a portion of the revenue the same services you can get as the come

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you got now and a portion of that goes to a non-profit so we are putting together things to create cash flow to create jobs but we need private sector involvement we need people to know about it on an individual basis on a company basis you know they’ve tried people have tried to get these programs going on Maui before 37 nonprofits were approached with this program over the last decade by someone who you all know by name but we’re not going there and no one’s picked it up well that I think

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that’s because it takes a focus and takes a cooperation all these nonprofits can come together and not even be taking the dollars indirectly but coming in through this brand like I said we’re a brand I’ve been holding it open Maui Arts and Music Association when the internet started and we started our name we started it knowing that way that we had to deal with these keywords and live to do things like let’s see what are we doing and we crafted our name and based on a technology that now is full-blown

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well here we are in the middle of it Kimo ko is not going to be he’ll be here some other time maybe maybe what soon we’re gonna be doing TV shows and and we’ll see you probably see him more on the TV side however where he is I hey Lou I don’t think he’ll be here at noon if he’s not here for the show let me get to these sponsors they’re probably wondering why I’m talking through them do you have something to say that can find an outlet did you know that ikkaku offers a service called open mic

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plus some of those rare tracks you won’t hear on any other radio program right here on Kak you 88.5 the neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to thank Maui Arts and Music Association tree makers Foundation of Maui for their support since 1991 hundreds of television shows and their maui arts and music comm website they have championed self sustainability on Maui to neutral zone has earned live Mondays at 11 a.m. and replayed Saturday at 7 a.m. on kak u 88.5 FM your voice of Maui my movie is a

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taking the pulse of youth culture from an island perspective watch local news turn events fun challenges trending videos game reviews and learn about other youth in your community new episodes are on Tuesday at 4:30 p.m. on aqua 255 or catches on Vimeo well that was a very productive break I think that um while while you were listening to our sponsors by the way it’s rare that we don’t have it now we just called Kim okay Oh again and they called her from outside and he’s in California right now sorry didn’t get

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back to me so I see it happens once in awhile so we’ll have him as a guest another time so we have a spot here so if you have time and you’re close by and you want to come down here three three three dairy road you can be on the arrow you can call in at eight seven three three four three five if you’re driving around 88.5 FM I’m Jason Schwartz your host this is the neutral zone it’s anything but neutral but we talk about all kinds of things you know I was thinking to have guests some of the

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guests that I have said yes they’re very interesting guests it’s a matter of finding them and getting them in like how many of you know Lucien de neige I know Lucien deny for decades now she’s a wonderful lady oh yeah she’s involved with seer Club hmm Albert Perez from Maui tomorrow these are some of our guests Alice Lee from counsel shainsa Nancy Kelly king Tasha comma I hope to get Mike Victorino our mayor again here now that he’s in office he has his own show so you may not think

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to be on Kate our st. John Kedar has the temple of peace Kedar and his wife Shelley have taken that property and taken that place and they are a wonderful love them know them for years wonderful people and a great guest for our show now we have I’m gonna have a different people if I can find them I know I wanted to have art Vento on I want to talk about the Maui Arts and Cultural Center I remember when art we there when it was being built he was the director of all the activity building that place I’ve heard people talk about

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the sound acoustics in the Mac and I know those walls move I’d like to get more information about making that a sound different kind of sound chamber they’re in the main room the castle Jim Loomis you know when I talk about sages of the ages Jim Loomis is one of them Jim Loomis is a great guy you’re gonna really enjoy him it has a great book out by the way but you can look that up call a KOA remember there was someone that was a teacher at the school Sam hey Samuel Kao Cully koa well we hope to have him on he’s a very

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very nice man very very thoughtful and caring and you remember that telescope thing all this stuff keeps happening around us and we want to talk to all kinds of interesting people so well Louie Hoka wanna there was the I guess the Chancellor at the United the UHMC College over here you know it’s just a matter of this plugin a min I don’t like the schedule too far in advance and like here with that’s amazing because I’m his friend I you know lives near me that I see all the time I’m very surprised that

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he must have just gone out of town anyway Shan Tsutsui is going to be our guest I’m hoping to get Joe Bradley from the Maui News at Tommy Russo Maui Times will say some of the people I’d like to get some of their editors and some of their writers is well we’ll see how that goes maybe there’ll be sponsors of our show or who knows we have not really been all over the map but I think that that’s part of the point of what we’re doing here in the neutral zone people come up to me all the time and tell me they’d

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like to be on our show and I never know you know I don’t want to become like a secret super sleuth reporter publicly creating stories with people on so and having things thrown out there without a substance or without any kind and otherwise I don’t want to be what I would label fake news which is having people on and not clarifying things so that someone who’s listening knows where things are opinion and where things are fact that there’s a really interesting line but we deal with it in our media

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everyday huh well welcome okay oh isn’t here so I mean he was the subject and reason that we were getting together was we have a the new school in Kihei being built and we have all kinds of I want to say young adults growing adults and we did we brought Duane Elliot on talking about boys to men which is you know Duane is here on Maui we have a few schools I believe on Maui but more have to be added have to be approved through whatever processes but it’s going grow crazy in a good way on the Big Island

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and on Oahu so I thought to bring in quinoa kale because of what he is doing now he may be in California God knows you know I don’t know why he’s hard to get you know I can only tell you that when you’re busy you don’t know if you’re coming or going sometimes he’s sorry didn’t get back to me but here we are I called him this morning I thought maybe I might have had a response but it didn’t but the backup for this show you know I didn’t want to just not honor my

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guests I was thinking he would be here but what he’s doing is I’ll wait to put all the details but he’s giving canoes from his foundation money comes in from all over the world people that want to support Hawaiian paddling and youth and education about paddling and canoeing is now all over the world also there was someone that lived now he that had a cat named coconut and coconut is now coconuts restaurant and they’ve been franchised and akeem akio goes around and does blessings like he

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did it here at the airport at the car rental thank God knows how he gets into all kinds of different things and you see him going out for for ceremonies for people that have passed away all the time as well in Kihei and he’s been inspiration there’s a barking dog he’s been an inspiration for a lot of people to really has been a fabric for a lot of these kids that really need a direction and adults that really need a direction they’re you know the Kihei canoe club and and many of the things that are

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along the coast they’re really got a lot of input and start from him I remember when I first met him we were at the same place they are now at the the Kings pond in fact that was quite memorable at that spot for me in lots of ways but that’s why I first met him and we’ve been friends a long time it’s amazing when I think about how many years have gone by it’s 30 years ago you know it’s really shocking to look from the shoreline now back and see maui has built out as it already is and looked to the water and

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realized the waters still the same town we don’t know and you know things we put in our water to kill in our reefs and all these things that we fight about just outrageous that we don’t get it we’re on an island we only have so much area so much thing we’ve got to be conscious of our trash we got to do all of us have to do it not some of us you know all of us have to do it and if we have to pass laws to get us to do the right thing you know you might as well just to forget it we need to do the right thing because

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it’s the right thing and we need to being good examples and that’s why boys to men that’s why female ko that’s why the kind of guests that I like to have on our show people that are inspiring by who and what they are and what they do and by the example they set for the youth of the world and I think this is a good time for more music I bet you would too you probably could use a break from me talking I’m gonna play one that I know I can play another one this is from Louise Lambert you’ve heard this one

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before peace in our hearts that’s a story for another day seems like now the words so small we see it all right here man I see the distance the harder it becomes for us to see in green [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] the truth [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] louise lambert peace in our hearts well that was gosh i’m sure 20 years ago that won an award at a festival in canada that was a very really celebrated song that’s a great song i like singing

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with Louise she sings great songs she is a terrific player great teacher of kids of all ages and you know III know that our island has so many people that have so much talent we see it coming out at all the things at the Maui Academy and Maui on stage and all and through the things in our island and the schools we really need more we need more venues for music I think in more ways we hope to have some of that more on here I know that they’re planning on that for here and in the television station as well to be much

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more interactive with our arts and our young people they have terrific programs here you can learn how to do things here and edit your own shows do your own shows do remote all this is a very vital and active place and you can be part of it children of all ages I say children of all ages I’m at the college having a really wonderful time learning film and media and its really been a terrific thing I’m gonna play one more song I have the right to play star the road [Music] [Music] [Music]

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[Music] [Music] [Music] and their gust not to leave anything in one good see [Music] the [Music] [Music] yes we do our show and Stardust bro because it gives us free and everyone can see my man [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] the credit [Music] [Music] [Music] that was fun that was in the studio so long ago that very fun this has been a fun show for me sorry we didn’t have Kim okay oh here today and I’m hoping to have Albert Perez here next week I put

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the word out to him and we’ll see but I’m gonna we’ll have someone here but I think I’m going to hopefully have Albert Perez and we have lots of interesting guests coming up thank you for joining us here at the neutral zone thank you for your patience and staying with me today that last song I just thought of Adi a lot who learned an editing from over at the college he’s a great editor that whole piece that you just heard is sort of like Thomas Rhett and Marin Morris did remember they did a song and

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I had a whole movie going with it well this one spells out the story as we go and Willie Nelson well that’s another story for another day thank you for joining us you know the music business is interesting we’re different music genres come together and you kind of don’t know how all these different people come together and play stuff but we had an interesting group thank you for joining us see us next week here at 11:00 on the neutral zone Maui neutral zone calm you