Out of the Ordinary – WMTV Interview with Dr. Jim Carey and Steven Gibb – Being a Raw Vegan
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Summary
The video features a detailed interview with Steven Gibb and Jim Carey from the Creative Health Institute located in Union City, Michigan. The discussion revolves around the philosophy and practice of raw living foods, natural healing, and lifestyle transformation rooted in detoxification, alkalinity, and holistic wellness.
The institute’s origins trace back to Dr. Anne, a pioneering naturopath who overcame serious health issues through a raw, plant-based diet and developed a comprehensive wellness program emphasizing whole, uncooked vegan foods, internal cleansing, and water fasting. Jim Carey shares personal testimony of his own health transformation, highlighting the sustainable and non-dogmatic nature of the lifestyle.
The conversation critiques the modern American diet and food industry, citing issues with processed foods, toxins, and misleading organic labeling. They emphasize the importance of returning to natural, whole foods, especially green leafy vegetables, and the body’s innate ability to heal when given the right environment.
The program at the Creative Health Institute is educational rather than clinical, designed to empower individuals through knowledge and self-care practices. The interview concludes with practical lifestyle advice, the importance of hydration, rest, and sunshine, and the availability of home study courses and resources to support people worldwide in adopting this healing lifestyle.
Highlights
- [02:48] 🌿 Dr. Ann’s story of overcoming colon cancer using raw living foods and herbal healing.
- [04:56] 🚫 Critique of processed and labeled foods, urging a return to whole, unprocessed, and garden-fresh foods.
- [07:44] 💪 Testimonial of a 78-year-old woman reversing hypertension and arthritis through the program.
- [09:22] 🔄 Explanation of the body’s natural cycle of acidity and alkalinity and how diet influences it.
- [11:19] 📸 Jim Carey’s personal transformation: losing 60 pounds through adopting a mostly raw living food lifestyle.
- [14:38] 💧 Emphasis on water fasting and cleansing as a core part of total wellness.
- [18:05] 🎓 The Creative Health Institute as an educational school, not a spa or clinic, focusing on teaching self-care.
Transcript
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hi everybody Welcome once again to out of the ordinary into the extraordinary I’m Robert Taylor coming to you on wmtv 5 from our Studios at the beautiful Gross Point war memorial and if you frequently view the show we know we try to bring you folks who are exceptional in the realm of the metaphysical The Healing Arts and the creative arts and today we have two great guests great healers themselves they are from the creative health heal Institute it gives me pleasure to welcome Stephen Gibb and
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Jim Carey to the show Stephen well thank you Jim thank you thank you and of course Steve – you were saying earlier you’re actual your actual relation of the BGs yes e cousin I don’t have the money and I can’t sing but I’m related to him that’s amazing so um welcome and uh you know short notice uh and the creative Health in insute locally is in Union City city is that correct? right here in Michigan yes and where is that geographically well it’s about halfway between Chicago and Detroit along the
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lower edge of Michigan so up sort of R cumo um actually 30 mil south of Battle Creek oh okay yeah and you were telling me earlier great story Jim about how the creative Institute came about oh well Dr Ann founded creative Health Institute originally was hypocrates Institute of the West uh she had founded hypocrates Institute in Boston and another one in California that’s currently called Optimal Health Center wow um when they split up the franchises but Dr an grew up with the grandmother who was an herbalist and the
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closest thing to a doctor within 100 miles of their part of Lithuania and she was just too sick and weakly to immigrate to America with the folks you know she couldn’t pass the export or the the export physical so uh until she was a grand until she was a teenager she lived with Granny and and during she was seven eight years old during World War I so at that age she’s treating wounded soldiers amputated limbs Etc and she’s doing all with herbs and puses so when she came to America she
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hadn’t been here two years and she started you know she started eating the American diet oh and they eat very simply they’re in Lithuania too of course yeah she started eating standard American diet started gaining weight not feeling so well but got run over by a wagon wow and uh broke both ankles and got Gang Green doctor’s Gang Green that’s simple you amputate she said no and she cured herself by eating out of the garden finding herbs that look something like what granny had so as she
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got into her late 40s she came out colon cancer this would bring us up to the early 1950s well you know what they did with colon cancer in 1950 say well make out your will and go home and you’ve got a year too well she started rooting through the alleys and uh vacant vacant yards in Boston where she lived and looking for herbs and and looking for things that would heal her and basically she experimented on on stray cats and dogs she’d bring in sick ones and see what they ate what they followed
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naturally in the course of doing this she ended up with a naturopathic doctor degree and in the course of doing this she healed her colon cancer amazing and what she came up with as a program was well you probably heard of raw living Foods or raw fooders yeah that’s the foundation of the program it’s raw living Foods we don’t cook anything we don’t eat animal any animal products it’s it’s um it’s all vegan yeah but in addition to that she she found that it’s it’s it’s more than just what you eat
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it’s your whole lifestyle so the there’s a detoxification part of the program internal cleansing we have to get these toxins out that we’ve been accumulating all our lives and the food right right so much tox Stephen told me once 80% of the toxins in our body we’ve inhaled W is that right 80% yeah and Stephen earlier you were saying that um this is a something which is already becoming very evident to everybody the US OFA despite its material advancement is the second most unhealthy
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country in the world yes and Michigan number one obese number one obes yeah yeah so what does that say well doesn’t say a lot you know my friend used to tell me that oh if you talk to stepen he’ll tell you not to eat any food that has a label on it and uh that’s still my my modotto is you know I I I used to say if you can’t pronounce the words in the label don’t eat it now I say if it has a label don’t eat it okay and so that’s what it boils down to we need to eat Whole Foods and we need to get back to
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the Garden you know Back To Nature pulling our Foods cuz when we go to the grocery store even though we’re buying organic I have to ask myself what is does organic mean what it means is first of all 25 25% of it’s not even not even organic we were being lied to oh and then the other food has been handled or radiated for example a lot of organic foods are watered with City water well what does City water have in it chlorine now we’re stripping the probiotics and the sulfur off from the foods or it’s
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grown in a greenhouse etc etc so our food quality has gone way way down even when we eat organic so we really need to get back to the Garden yeah well uh you know somebody once said uh popy today would need 200 can of spinach to take care of Pluto yeah well that’s interesting because in um as a people today we eat twice as much food as we did at the end of World War I or I’m sorry the end of World War II and I asked myself why and we have to in order to get the same amount of nutrients because our physiology hasn’t changed so
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that’s why we’re 66% obese as a nation so especially those folks that are eating it we won’t mention some of the big corporation uh fast food places they’re not getting any kind of nutrition in fact they’re getting a lot of uh uh chemicals and stuff well yeah um obviously Meats we’re not designed to eat meat but when we go take it to that step the problem with the meat is or the foods out there is the poisons it’s not the meat that kills us even though we Embrace a living food diet when I coach
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people if they want to eat meat I tell them this go go buy grass-fed meat yeah because you often ask yourself you know why is it my aunt or Uncle live to be 90 years old on the farm that’s exactly why they were eating off the farm they were eating everything grass-fed yeah didn’t have growth hormones antibiotics and pesticides in it so it’s the poisons that kill us and I read a figure that uh the average cow could be injected with up to 2,700 different it’s amazing it’s just
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it’s it’s insurmountable yeah there’s a very interesting video called super siiz me yep and you’ve heard of it great it’s great it’s well worth tracking down on the Internet it’s well worth of 20 bucks um yeah he lived on he lived on McDonald’s for 30 days it almost killed him yeah and the lettuce and tomato on the burger kept them alive I think I think that’s the case for a lot of America the lettuce and tomato on that burger is what they living on what their
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body is now a lot of people may may not want to live permanently on a raw food diet that’s pretty AER but if somebody’s sick especially and um they at least start out with what you’re saying that would be a huge help right it would um for example I had a lady come to me um four weeks ago 78 years old I now call her 78 years young she had high blood pressure known as hypertension 180 over 95 three medications and arthritis two weeks later she walked out the door after doing our program at 120 over 64 and
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left her cane behind and no medications it just works you do the right things and the right things happen the body is very forgiving and resilient and it we need to create an alkaline environment inside the body when we’re eating these fast foods or Hostess Twinkies or ding-dongs out there as they’re singing to us in this and the shopping malls and the grocery stores we become acidic and we never become alkaline and that’s how the body rebuilds cells so our program shows you allows you to immerse yourself
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so you can become alkaline and magical things happen I even have a uh water purifier at home that um separates the alkaline and the acidic in the water oh really and uh so you drink the alkaline you take the acidic which is poured out through a tube and you feed that to your plants perfect yeah yeah yeah so so when we’re alkaline immune healthy right yeah there’s a there’s a cycle um if you look at the word breakfast the word breakfast means breaking the fast when we go to bed at night hopefully we don’t eat 3
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hours before we go to bed yeah um our body because it’s not getting any food starts to rebuild the energy within imagine you you had yourself a battery inside of you and you charge that battery up and the next day that battery helps you walk and talk and think and digest solent food so during the course of the night our body is supposed to become acidic and on a pH scale we’re supposed to end up at about 5.8 seven being neutral and then as we start putting food into our body during the day we’re rebuilding oursel so we have
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this beautiful circle of 24 hours of building and cleansing building and cleansing the challenge with the United States today is no one’s doing the building we’re simply detoxing we’re always acidic around there so when people call me up and ask me what’s going on I ask them about their lifestyle or their diet if you will it’s always acidic and as soon as we put green food into their diet become alkaline everything goes away the body is very resilient and you know what I found uh in the uh in the U Supermarket
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probably the cheapest vegetables are like the kale and uh you know the healthy ones are the least expensive we’re now finding on excuse me but we’re now finding on the living Foods diet that we need more emphasis on the greens yeah it’s been it’s it’s been it’s been around for 50 years Dr and develop this in the ‘ 50s but as we become more sophisticated in our research and our testing methodologies we’re we’re filling in the weak spots because it’s it’s not been the perfect
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diet yeah but as we fill in the weak spots we’re finding more greens and as we fill in the weak spots we’re finding that we’re more and more just Back To Nature and how did man how would man have lived 10,000 years ago yeah years ago yeah that’s what our bodies were designed for or even when I was growing up my mom and dad had a fantastic little garden exactly and you would get that life food right out of the backyard nothing like it’s met right off the vine was there that’s exactly right yeah we
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have a guy uh in fact we’ll give him a plug Bob Bob’s Garden Bob still has a garden just down the street from me so I was telling Bob if you have any excess I’ll be the first in line to buy some of your veggies now we want to show a visual of Jim here we have an amazing Visual and this was you how many years ago not that many years ago four years ago okay yes it is the guy in the white T-shirt and um it’s not digitally messed up no no it’s a straight shot it was film shot um yeah I had been at that
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point I’ve been vegetarian for two years and I’d lost 20 PBS wow that was the new improved me you look amazing I I I weighed 240 in that photo let’s see that one again we got to see that that’s the old him man and this is the new you I’m 180 now still coming off is still coming off just slower yeah but see you think about what we’re doing it’s a lifestyle Choice it’s not a religion it’s not a cult it’s a lifestyle Choice I’m not a 100er okay when I come up to Michigan when I hang
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out at the Institute the pounds come off when I go home I’m 95% raw but I I’ll go out with the boys occasionally and hoist a few pints and sometimes somebody takes me out to dinner there might there might be a chicken involved you know because it’s a lifestyle it’s not or pizza not so much chicken it’s been a long time since I did that but cheese pizza once in a while yeah so that’s why I’m 180 and not 170 wow yeah but I’m so much healthier so you can one of the things that I’ve
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noticed and I’ve met two or three other folks from your Institute is the your skin looks has a translucency about it yeah we call it the glow usually about 5 days into the program and you skin is one of the most resilient parts of the human body and it really comes back online fast because the skin is actually of a process of lination but not under normal conditions we’re supposed to be eleminating through our balls and the skin ends up because we plug our balls up so much our Skin’s an emergency
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backup system if you will so during when we’re eating on the sad diet the standard American diet which is you know very very sad and the Happy Meals yeah and we don’t know who has that but anyways um then the skin finally gets relief because we get alkaline and our body’s not using the skin to U offset all the toxins so the skin can go back to its normal and that’s where the glow comes from you know uh I see a lot of people with also you know the the acne and stuff and uh of course you would go
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your dermatologist she’s trying to give you creams you know get rid of your acne but it’s pretty obvious to me it’s something going on internally treating it from the outside rather than the inside sometimes as people are going through the program they’ll develop acne again they’re detoxing through the skin but it’ll pass shortly wow now uh you said you’re a hygienist is that I’m a natural hygienist and what that means is that I fast true water fasting such as Jesus Moses Buddha Gandhi Etc and uh
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it’s it’s basically Total Wellness boils down to two things it’s extremely simple if anyone gets anything out of this program it’s this it’s building and cleansing building is a living food diet okay that’s our foundation that’s the way God told us we’re supposed to eat if you look biblically God told us 74 times we’re supposed to fast water fasting not juice fasting but water fasting so twice a year I’ll go somewhere and I’ll lay down for 14 days and drink nothing but
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water so my analogy is this if you married your wife and you moved into a home brand new home just built it and you never cleaned it how long would you live there not very long so this is our house so it’s building and cleansing building and cleansing throughout her life Paul brag when he was six uh acquired tuberculosis and his father sent him to a famous doctor in Switzerland and in two years of fasting him and putting him in the sunshine he feeding him living Foods he beat tuberculosis and he vowed to promote
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Wellness for the rest of his life well Paul brg died age 96 in a water skiing accident can you visualize a man 96 years old and that’s what he did he fasted water skiing water skiing and that was his lifestyle he was a hygienist he ate living foods and he ate a 8020 diet he ate a little bit of fish and some other things and 20% was living food and then he fasted yeah he lived to be 96 when I was looking to change my lifestyle to get from 240 to something and I wasn’t healthy I mean and I had
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always I was military I was very healthy at one point as I was looking to improve that I started researching and I also have a PhD and applied computer technology so I’m pretty good at looking stuff up and one of my criteria is what did the founder of the program die from what Paul dies at 96 water sking Accident Dr Ann was 83 years old and she died of smoke inhalation fighting a fire in her apartment at 83 at 83 bucket of water beside her on the floor another bucket in the bathtub and
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the water’s still running Norman Walker 118 yeah Norman now he’s a famous I was thinking about him uh he was the one that wrote the books especially about the colon being the sewage system of your body right absolutely that’s a very important part we have have to learn not to force the body and address the body as a whole a lot of programs out there they telling you to do a liver cleanse or a kidney cleanse or a colon cleanse and although it’s important to clean and cleanse those things we’re we’re we’re
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slapping God in the face by saying oh I’m going to go do this because this is what’s wrong and I have to ask myself when we go to a natural path and they say something’s wrong with your liver is that the symptom or is that the cause see we don’t know so you need to get out of the way and let the body heal itself yeah and it is an amazing healing mechanism it is and look at the animals when they get sick what do they do they go lay somewhere and they dry fast just lay down until they get better yeah or
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as you say Dr. Ann was watching those sick animals and intuitively picking out the foods that they needed to heal themselves he talked about cleansing I get a kick out what I watched the media and and the detox diet the Energy diet the the the internal cleansing and we do that we do that we do that because it’s all part of Lifestyle yeah okay it’s not just internal cleansing it’s not just wheat grass juice which we use it’s not just raw foods it’s a lifestyle and that’s
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where that’s what Steve Brook vocalizes so well because we teach people I’m sorry but but we don’t we’re not a spa you don’t go there and we pamper you for two weeks and you’re healed no we teach you about internal cleansing we teach you how to do tasty raw food preparation we’re an educational institute we’re a school not a spa not a health clinic we’re a school and you learn how to take care of yourself and why as Stephen is saying here on the show this happens
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this happens this happens and people like I never knew that they never taught that in hygiene class no no even the American Center for Disease Control says that 93% of all Americans are Health illiterate Y and for for 28 years we’ve been trying to help people with that well look at the uh uh amount of time that a doctor will spend learning about nutrition at Medical School not very often not very much actually nutrition is something that no you you send them down the hallway to the nutritionist
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they put them on 2,000 calorie a day diet that’s it that’s what a doctor studies for nutrition well listen uh uh if somebody’s interested I know you were saying earlier you can either uh do this in a home study course or you can actually come and spend time at the at the creative Health Institute is that correct yeah right um yeah the creative Health Institute was founded 28 years ago by uh don Hoy and he became sick and someone brought him an Moore’s book why suffer and uh he started building weak
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grass trays and eating weak grass and he got healthy and he created the wellness Institute and then James came along and his ingenious mind he created the home course and the home course is basically a way for someone to take our course out of its element take it home on video or DVD along with a fabulous manual and learn how to incorporate this into your life so actually have some visuals um both of the book and we’ve got to visual there a little bit of the of the manual he the the DVDs can have up to 32
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there’s 32 I I just remember as we say down south I just remember how many hours it is it’s it’s probably 50 60 hours of video you’d have to come to the Center for a month to get this much information wow the book runs 250 pages of loose leaf I mean there’s a lot of information there yeah but when you come through this you know your body and the neest thing about the videos is when you need inspiration you got something to pop in the tape player yeah and re-inspired that’s right we we 20% of our shipments
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are outside the United States and uh I also edit the newsletter so between the two I get lots of fan mail if you will yeah and the video testimonies I bet oh oh yes all the time yeah yeah and um the the videos just keep people inspired I’ve been putting testimonies on the website it the Health Institute website is www.c creative Health institute. us and the home study program is www. chi diet like Chi for energy Chi creative health is yeah it works on several L chid diet.com give us those two again wwwc creative Health
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institute. us and Chi diet.com just go to chiet Chi diet because the link for Creative health is right there on the homepage they link back and forth to each other what’s the tollfree number Stephen tollfree number is 866 4261 1213. I coach and welcome people all day long and that’s what I do I sit on the phone I talk to people about their challenges and it’s anything from someone being completely curious to walking in wanting to lose weight to somebody with cancer and everything in between just goes down
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just to go down a little bit of the list it’s Alzheimer’s and lupus and hypertension and cancer you know and we see people when they come and they do the right thing they walk out the door without it wow that’s amazing it is amazing yeah yeah so uh it makes sense it really does make sense healings physically mental emotional and spiritual we share that with people and we just see Miracles every week that’s why I got involved four years ago it’s like it’s not just helping people it’s one thing to help
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somebody when you’re driving down Jefferson Avenue here that’s one kind of help but it’s something and else when you see them change their lives we’re going to get another let’s get the visual again of uh of Jim previously this is a this is a living T like that picture yeah here it is oh my goodness it’s so amazing you’re you’re you’re a Sit example of uh that’s just in four years but then that’s four years and that’s that’s just the appearance and
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yes you’re right the visuals are important because that’s what what people see what’s important is what what is done for me inside yeah I’m happier I’m brighter I’m I’m actually more spiritual be more alkaline you become more right brain more right brain you’re more spiritual so I have a better relationship with God than I’ve ever had before wow and and I just I walk in the spirit I mean yeah I ran into you five minutes later we’re doing a TV show three days later my whole life’s like
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this so this every day goes like this and and um I I just I got my o change yesterday to come here I spent an hour talking to the owner of the shop I couldn’t get away yeah um youve seen me coming in for a couple years and why are you always smiling why are you so happy and why do I weigh 250 PBS yeah I had the picture in my back seat so he’ll be there Sunday his name is TJ yeah a lot of hurting people out there there is I mean they’re basically lining up at the door you know eventually we’re not going to have room
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for him well it’s uh it’s you see some really sad visuals of uh individuals who uh you know especially people who live in poor neighborhoods they don’t even have the opportunity to go buy vegetables the only thing they can do is go visit those fast food restaurants and get that or they’re given welfare in those aren’t those aren’t good at a lot of the stores you know they’re buying buying F food with them that’s right we’re the home study program we’re donating this to churches and institutes
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anybody that even wants to think about doing some sort of a soup kitchen yeah we’d be glad to help absolutely yeah well you guys need to be in the nursing homes and the hospitals and those are harder steps because now you have the traditional American medicine and traditional attitudes to deal with yeah but Church groups food uh food kitchens soup kitchens people that are independent of the government people that can think for themselves and act for themselves and have the authority to act for themselves we can help them now
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wow yeah yeah we can help them we’re seed Planters you know um I can go out there and find sick people all day but it’s easier to to get someone to change their religion that is the food they put in their mouth yeah amen yeah so we just wait for them to come to us and then we know they’re ready yeah well and as you was saying earlier on uh this is this is a diet that Jesus himself would have followed actually in Genesis 1:29 God laid it out he said this is your fruit bearing tree this shall be your meat
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this this is this is it this is in Revelation 22:2 this is Ezekiel 47 it’s a theme all to the Bible is living food and think of the Fig Tree what did the Hunter and gatherer do is he went out he grabbed berries and fruit and fig and avocados he didn’t belly up to a table and eat a bunch of cooked food and you don’t see a deer in the woods saying hey honey fire up the stove we’re going to have dinner it just doesn’t work that way and the animal kingdom is basically vegetarian there’s a few carnivores to
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offset keep things in equilibrium but for the most part it’s a vegetarian and that’s the way we we should we look at the animal kingdom we found 150 excuse me we found 150 Dead Sea Scrolls so far they all came from the ases the ases were we we see them in the Bible as The Naz The Naz nazarians okay that drank no alcohol ate no fruit of the vine well they were raw living food us okay the Israeli Department of archaeology website just found this last month says that at the time of Jesus Nazareth was an Asen
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settlement of 12 people wow so Jesus had to be we we go through this thing was nazaran and Na and nazarites yeah well there’s also a word that was never used in the Greek was nazarean nazarians and nazarites were both a yeah absolutely that’s based on Edmund sheeley’s research now uh if anybody wants to just some simple principles to follow what would you recommend in terms of Lifestyle well the first thing is to start your day off with water okay lemon water because you want to hydrate
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yourself often the standard American diet will tell you to eat to drink eight glasses of water and they’re absolutely correct because the foods you’re eating are devoid of water and nutrients but in a living food diet of course we we drink a lot less water so that’s obviously number one of course stay away from the dark colas the poisons aspan artificial sweeteners things like that and get Sunshine get rest get fresh air sleep through their window open drive with your window window open eat living Foods
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as much as you can uh and basically you know just use common sense sign up for our newsletter beautiful tips sign up for our newsletter get a tip every week it’s all on the weite give us the uh give us that website one more time creative I’m sorry creative Health institute. us or Chi diet Chi diet and uh if you don’t have a computer you can always call here at the war memorial 881 7511 and once again we’ve had these great guests from the creative Health Institute it’s right in Union City if
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you’re in a really sick condition you might think about going spending some time with them and uh as they said they have hundreds of uh testimonies of miracle cures so I want to thank you all for joining us on out of the ordinary into the EXT extraordinary and I think the fellows will agree God is alive magic is a foot for
