Jason Schwartz introducing ROXANNE SHIPLEY, Maui entrepreneur & business consultant & More… a fun time bringing a new face before our Maui & global audience! 9 8 25
Highlights
- [00:14] Introduction to “The Neutral Zone” and its multi-platform community media outreach on Maui.
- [06:22] Roxan Shipley’s entrepreneurial journey with “Corn Dogs by Mr. Cow” franchise in Maui.
- [09:18] Emotional reflection on empowering young employees to discover their strengths and courage.
- [14:14] The metaphor of planting seeds to illustrate growth through perseverance and failure.
- [23:08] Creating a positive business culture that fosters loyalty and mutual growth.
- [38:30] Innovative proposal to use real estate commissions for funding local cultural and environmental regeneration.
- [44:58] ️ Akaku’s upcoming workshops and community events supporting media, creativity, and entrepreneurship.
Key Insights
- [06:22] Resilience in Entrepreneurship: Roxan’s ability to pivot after a failed franchise purchase highlights the importance of adaptability and learning from setbacks in business success.
- [09:18] Mentorship as Business Growth: Empowering employees by building their confidence creates a foundation for sustainable business development and community strength.
- [14:14] Failure as Fertile Ground for Growth: The seed metaphor deepens understanding of persistence, encouraging entrepreneurs to view obstacles as necessary for eventual success.
- [23:08] Positive Work Culture as Competitive Advantage: Cultivating respect and shared vision between owners and employees leads to higher motivation, loyalty, and business resilience.
- [38:30] Community-Focused Economic Innovation: Redirecting private sector funds like real estate commissions to cultural and environmental projects offers a model for sustainable community investment.
- [44:58] ️ Role of Media in Community Empowerment: Community media platforms like Akaku provide essential spaces for education, networking, and amplifying local voices and initiatives.
- [50:24] Integration of Personal and Professional Growth: Roxan’s personal experiences as a mother and entrepreneur inform her coaching approach, making it relatable and holistic for clients seeking meaningful change.
Full Transcript with Timestamps
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Aloha. Good morning. It’s 11 o’clock on Monday. I’m Jason and this is the neutral zone. Maui neutralzone.com. The neutral zone. We are on Akaku Maui Community Media Radio 88.5 FM the voice of Maui. Simocast on Akaku Maui Community Media to older people like me. We called it TV. I think a lot of people still think but we’re media because we are on the net. We’re also at Maui stream an application you can find on both platforms and uh that’s the way to find all of Akakuz’s programming and the
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radio station which is up there. You can also find what we do on youtube.comdreammaui and the numeral one. You can also find us. We are so happy to be here and be in public media. Years ago, they would have said this is sort of like a podcast, isn’t it? Yeah. We’re going to rename our podcast Maui neutral.zone. So, that’ll be another app you’ll see soon, but don’t go looking too quick. We have been doing interviews under this name since 2018. And it started where I was doing
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political interviews in my mind. And I switched to values because I’d have to interview everyone in running in a race and it was like primary time. So I said, “Let me switch it to values. I’ve been doing shows here for 30 years so people could understand me regularly talking about different things. Let’s bring on people from all walks of life that have great ideas or have done and powerful and good mostly local but around the world and we’ll call it the neutral zone. So if someone
has an idea that’s not mine they won’t feel pounced on when they get here. So we’ve had guests over time that create very colorful by design shows. So you’ll look through that and you’ll say, “Wow, so much was said here. So many great issues covered from that perspective.” So we hope you’ll look through our archives and uh into the future, just know that we’re here for you. So if you have something and something wherever it is that you’d like to discuss or have someone, they’re
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welcome here to sit in this seat. Today I have a beautiful guest. Not only beautiful visibly, but this young lady came to me. Excuse me. Everyone, she could be 70 and it’s I’d say young lady. I’m an old guy, 74. But a beautiful young lady. You You were presented as someone that I saw last week who was involved showing a business that’s here locally, an outside vendor at Akaku’s um product to a group of people that use this area, which was great. Akaku and you were also involved in other things
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because I saw you were talking here in the station, but I I noticed you and then Susie was coming in and presenting that there was this there it was you again, that same person. I said, wow, what a And so I said, you know, that’s a perfect thing to add to the neutral zone because every guest comes with a clean slate here. I wouldn’t be surprised someone that comes near and to Akaku Media Center has something powerful to give and say. So, Roxan Shipley, welcome to our show. >> Thank you for having me.
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>> Wasn’t that a long introduction? Excuse me. >> Totally fine. Gave me time to to get comfortable. >> Oh, good, good, good. So, um are you How may I ask? Are you uh My eyes don’t see age. You look like a beautiful young lady of maybe I want to say 40s, 35 to 40. >> That is a good guess. I am 41, >> but I like that I look young. >> Yeah. So, um, how did you get to hear the station? What was your thoughts on coming in? >> I actually had an opportunity with some
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friends to start something up that led, uh, that segueed into the radio station. And I have been wanting to do a podcast for a really long time. Um, I want to share what what I’m passionate about is business. There are a lot of things that I see in Maui that can be done. I had the opportunity to open up um a restaurant in the Queen Kamanu Center. >> You get a little closer. >> Sure. Can >> the closer you get, the less echo. That’s the reason I say it. >> Got it. >> You were able to open up a business in
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the Kono Center with someone. >> Um, with my with my spouse at the time. I guess you would I guess that’s an if. It’s not that it’s iffy. It’s just an uh >> I’m not sure what >> her mic. >> All right, there we go. A little bit up on mic number two. See, I am as There we go. You won’t see that in a future cut of this show maybe with someone. But we are live and in color and we’re here for you. We’re also a callin call out talk show which I haven’t found too much use
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for because I can’t hear it. But imagine you’re sitting here and you want to talk about a subject and you’d like to speak to the economic development department and you want to talk to them about this issue and so you we and us and our audience pick up the phone and call. We can do that by design or by accident. That makes us really a powerful tool. Public access. How many people do that from the air live? Not many. >> But so when you came in here anyway, you can see. Tell me more about you. You
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opened up a business in the Mac in the Queen Kamanu Center. What happened then? >> Well, it was Corn Dogs by Mr. Cow. It was a franchise or it was becoming a franchise on Aahu. It was for sale. Um I was I had big dreams and big hopes and I was looking to purchase that but it uh fell through but I think lots of failures lead to other opportunities and that’s what led me to Maui. Uh we had the opportunity to open up one of the restaurants here because no one was here and so I was the first one to bring
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Cornogs by Mr. cow to Maui. And it was an interesting process because I’ve never been on Maui before and I only moved to Hawaii in 2020. So, I had not been here >> long. But one thing I did come with was I want to say a business acumen mind. I we let’s see I lived in Santa Barbara for 17 years and I was surrounded by affluent people and um people I’ve come to know who do a lot of good and happen to have money and sometimes the stigma behind those who are wealthy is not always the positive light but I got to
see the other side that there are people who work really hard and deserve what they have because they’re willing to So when I came here, I saw that there was a lot. I’ll get emotional and then I’ll get over and then I can move on. Um I saw that there was a lot of opportunity. And one thing that I do know and which I love is that I look like a local because I have a heart of the local. The aloha that is here, but there is I I noticed that there was something missing. It’s an understanding of business and how it
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works and how we can take our skills and our abilities and hone it um work at it, perfect it and bring it to life so that people come, we talk about tours, people come to us for our crafts so we don’t feel like it’s being taken away by some businessman that is I want to say is imaginary because it isn’t that someone is trying to take it’s just that someone else saw the opportunity and did it first. So, how can uh when I came here, how can I help the young people as I hired young people at my restaurant see
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that vision? And I realized what they needed to see first was uh the qualities that they had in themselves, the things that maybe they that weren’t told to them or shown to them for whatever reason. And it was cultivating that environment that encouraged that so that they could have the courage in themselves to go, I am good at this thing. And it was a restaurant. So I wasn’t expecting them to stay for a very long time. I of course wanted them to go on to bigger and better things. And I
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wanted to help them cultivate that courage to go I want to do wow. It’s an emotional day. Um I want to do more for myself. And that is for me the joy in opening up a business because I get to help others. Let me break in for two reasons. One, breathe, relax, and know you’re in a safe place. And those are tears of joy because that passion is what I see in me when I am when I’m in touch with what really moves me. It moves me to tears through the what can be thing. It’s like I want to help
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others because I know the potential for better is right there. And I say better, everyone can move at their own pace in their own direction. But the ability to have those skills that they now do you have like a template that you find in a business or do you find things that you teach? Like you say, it’s sort of like steps, right? You know that’s interesting because I don’t have a template but what I have discovered was in my failure of previous businesses I have learned what I should do better on the next one.
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So I’ve taken failure as opportunities for learning not that I suck and I should stop trying. >> Salesmen think that. They go, “Hey, someone said in baseball, you hit three out of 10, you’re you’re the rookie of the year.” And you know, you hit four out of 10, you’re the superstar for life. So, get used to a no and realize not everyone sees that vision, you see. And the better that gets communicated. And sometimes it’s unspoken things. So, when you’re here and the tears are
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coming out, those are tears of they’re blessings. They’re blessing us with those tears. Thank you for caring enough. You know, look at I always said my paintbrush is the way I look at the whole economy and business. That’s how I paint. And besides, so I see it in you. I see that there’s something in you that’s a real passion. So you’re How would you describe your business? I always try to figure out what do I how do I want to what am I doing? And I was dream makers and we used to help
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businesses but it was before computers and then and there was another business doing it. They had a business but they had a brick place so people understood them. No. So you’re coming here without a brick thing and then you’re in this. I’m just comparing the dream maker vision I have with you who wants to show them that there’s a possibility to do what you’re doing better. If you hire me, I’ll help you with these services. And I don’t know how you identify it. I try to identify it based on skills that
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I’d add to local businesses. I don’t know if that’s how you’re going at this or not, but this was a lot. Anyway, I had fun doing it before. And you know when you’re still doing something and it’s still right, I feel like why would I be talking to someone who has a passion about business to the point of what was making you cry? Do you think >> I think it’s I think it’s because passion is what drives us and um >> life experience that makes you grip onto
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something or is it just a passion for seeing great things happen? I I mean I vision that way. I’m curious how you do it. I think it’s Give me a moment to gather my thoughts. >> Sure. >> Um >> I don’t talk that much about visions. >> The tears the tears come because of the experiences that I’ve had that were difficult but understanding it is the forging through the difficulty. And I love to think um in seeds, we plant seeds and um seeds are cultivated and when we plant a seed and we cover it
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with soil, we do not know what that it’s growing, but we hope and have faith that something is going to come from the seed. Um, and it’s the forging and the roots bursting out of the seed and having to push through the soil, but it not knowing that just half an inch above it pushes and it will see light. And so I see myself in these instances where if I didn’t push, how close would I have been to see the light? And as I have witnessed that many times and again we plant seeds and I come I used to think
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that I’m not a good uh I don’t have a green thumb but I was realizing there are things that I needed to learn by not being successful at first because sometimes we have to we learn through the failure those things that we would not have learned had we succeeded and um by doing that so many times um I have learned that the difficulty is not a no, but how much more courage do I need to continue to push forward? And it’s even helping with my children with in that helping my employees see that
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difficulties aren’t necessarily a barrier or no or to stop. It is what growth do I need to push through to see the light. So what does this seed Roxan see that she’s pushing through by coming to Akaku? What do you want to do here at Akaku? >> I want to share my story. I want to share my voice because I’ve I’ve gone through a lot and learned a lot about myself and recognize that when we could dig deep inside ourselves and discover who we truly are. We can then fill our cup knowing that
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it’s not something outside of us that uh we are seeking. It is recognizing who we are and what we bring to the table. And when we can feel so confident in that, we could go out and be courageous and decide to do that thing that we were afraid of because we are no longer afraid of it not working out. We are no longer afraid of what people think about us because we think highly of ourselves. And what I really want to do is share that message with the individuals who are afraid to do something because they
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don’t think that they are enough. But it’s like, can we then dive deep within ourselves and discover that you are enough? And >> that’s that is a place to cry cuz you are enough. That is a great message. You are enough. That is the message that I struggle with also trying to actualize a dream and put all pieces together in a way that is understandable and what I’m saying is getting a result. You’re asking someone to say, “Hey, I believe in myself.” That means when I do
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something, you know, uh we just talk about I use the baseball analogy or about three or three out of 10 being a superstar, but you know, try anything anything that you do. The toughness, I mean, leather, what’s the concept of leather? You hit this poor skin so many times it beats into this thing called leather or that’s a very rough term but isn’t that true? Don’t we get you know they say if it doesn’t kill you it builds character it gives you the food for the next generation to grow. Isn’t that what
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we learn when we look at seeds and we ah if I do this and I put it here and I feed it this and I don’t do that I can have a better yield and if I cooperate in this way and that way I can do this and I can do that and that makes this happen that makes that happen. So I think of it as part of this dream ma Maui dream mat matrix because already in what you’ve said I mean I see unbelievable opportunity not only for you but for you to do good through visions and programs that are a little more in depth than we’re sharing here.
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But that’s what the website was created to try to show that this is all of us together. The possibility to do things bigger than we thought we could. How about this one? People that buy houses here, buy houses here, second houses, may feel a little bit stunned by how the locals don’t really like that they’re buying up their paradise. And this is rich section in Wa and all over in Kopali. And then there people don’t have houses and don’t have everything. What if of the commissions earned by someone and
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they gave the maximum they could by law? They’d give 100% but they’re only allowed to give 60. So what if I give 60% to a nonprofit that puts on shows to promote art, to promote culture, is in the hotels and the cultural center and shows to the world our culture and our environmental solutions and all that creates a fund. who create that creates a fund for Akaku and public access tele creates a fund for Maui Arts and Music Association as the dream air however we want to name it to continue these shows
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all from real estate sales of people that are buying here luxury the people that weren’t even thinking of Maui specifically will say well I could put money into helping well I was going to use this agent well you can still come to us. We’ll refer you to the agent you want. All this money to what? Regenerate Maui. Now, that’s a lot of words. Well, what if that runs into someone who says, “I’m going to show people what they can do.” And I give them a chance. Again, I feel
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like younger people are the ones that see that the world is pretty screwed up. If we don’t do anything at a local level, we may lose this beautiful place we live in. We’ve been talking about it a long time, but now’s the time to move. You mean we can do that through not really changing the system, just rrooting some of the monies that are used in those system to regenerate Maui when we had a fire. We want people to recognize we’re going to showcase the best art, music, and culture of the
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world and regenerate our island and create solutions with environment. Wouldn’t the world want to know that? Yeah. That’s why I look and I when I hear you I’m going to park this in a moment, but I heard someone who’s perfect, not only to be the person to help find the other people and the people in the local community that have certain abilities and realize that when we tie these together and take away greed, what can happen when you give, in my case, give the most you can give to be able to
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create something to regenerate? If I’m gonna have a baby, it’s going to be in this regeneration of an island that I’ve lived half of my life for. And I truly respect that the Hawaiian culture has been an effect on me. You’re only here a little while. I hope that you’ll find that the people here are very beautiful and very accepting. >> They sure are. Mhm. >> And uh you know I hear all kinds of things about you know the people in the mainland in a stance. I think we’re just
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going to create a better quality of life by co-operating in a new and unique way with I want to say with the new and the old both working together to create something really special as an example to the world like a host who goes off on a tangent for so long in the middle of the show. goodness. Please excuse me for that, but I’m sure I’m showing you that I’m I’m what they I feel is a willing candidate. How do you describe what you do or that’s only a facet of you I’m sure
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>> a facet. You are you are correct. I am discovering new things about myself each day too. So, um, you know, it’s interesting because I thought that I wanted to do business coaching because what I what I’m good at, um, is taking information from a business and give me your P&L, give me your balance sheet, and I could read the story and I could tell you where efficiencies are or or not, where we could increase the bottom line. And by making improvements X, Y, and Z, I could see where money can be
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had because I was in a position where someone just needed to tell me that when I owned a gym in Santa Barbara, but they didn’t until we were already closing. And I realized that’s what I wanted because we are for business owners, they go in with their passion and their dream and they put their whole hearts out there, but because of the failure, that’s where they um fear to try it again because you got to be vulnerable. You got to put your whole self out there. You’re risking everything. And
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then I realized when you risk everything, do you lose everything? Actually, what you gain is far greater than what you lose monetarily. What you lose physically. Um, in taking the risk, I have learned so much about business that I am now passionate. When I go into a business, I understand what the business owner wants as an employee because I’ve been on the other side. Then I understand as a business owner what I need to do for my employees so that they are loyal to me and want to come to work
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and do a good job. It’s a culture that I cultivate. And it’s I want to help other business owners create that for themselves. It’s like a win-win. your employees help you sell the thing that you created so that you could go out and sell more not so that you can use your hands and work work in your business but it’s also understanding that you have to put in time in your business you can’t just automatically say I have this business idea and think that you are hands off that is the false notion it is
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there is time and commitment that you are willing to give then you share that with your employees so they then trust you so that they are willing to back you when you go out and look quote unquote like they’re not working because they know you are working. You are working so they could keep their job so they could grow and they could grow in it with you. And that is the biggest thing I want to share because there are a lot of business owners there’s a scarcity mindset and I just have to say there’s
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this phrase that I live by from abundance we take from abundance but abundance still remains. If there’s always going to be enough, there’s there’s never a fear that someone’s going to take my idea. There’s never a fear that someone else is going to that I’m not going to have what I need because if we even if we look at a specific market, we can’t one person cannot cater to a entire market. We just don’t have the capacity to do it. So, it is okay if we share that. But then we
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just have to know what’s enough for us. And sometimes it’s also honing it down. Like if we don’t know how much is enough, we think we need everything when really we just need a small portion. Figure out what that small portion is so that you know you have enough. When you know you have enough and your needs are met, then that’s where you can give. That’s when you could go out and not feel the need to get every sale and do things that aren’t benefiting your growth and recognizing that there’s
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nothing that you’re losing in um uh in growing more. >> As I’m listening, I’m hearing great encouragement for I want to say the troops being a retail. I mean to me the businesses you’re talking about the ones that have employees. So that is our Maui market. We have a tremendous workforce that having companies find allegiance in their employees has got to really ring a lot of bells out there. Many employers who recognize because of their feeling of possibly their feeling of scarcity about losing
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instead of building a culture at their company like you’re saying where the owner is building respect from his employees and building a a culture that uh makes them want to grow there instead of going somewhere else. and so on. And the it’s it’s really been interesting. Do you have a courses or you do the teaching oneonone or how do you deliver who you are? >> To be honest. >> Yes. On on the radio today. There we go. >> That’s almost why you walked in, isn’t
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it? because you can talk to people about what’s going on and what they’re feeling and the things that are happening at work that they can stay anonymous and be able to share in ways that you almost be like doc I I don’t want to say doctor finance not really finance it’s it’s uh spiritfilled it’s it’s self I don’t know how to describe it maybe you can better than me it’s um I think of it as drink take their vision put a little action to it and create it in the environment they want both as
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employees and employers to create an environment that works for them. Ray, it’s not what we’re talking about when you go out of a place. You have to be the boss and show that you care about this and where and what to get your employees to be, I’d hope in one and spirit with what you are doing and give them a future too. >> I think about breathing back life into the dream that initially got them to take that risk to open up the business. And I think it’s lost in the monotony of
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the day-to-day of having to pay the bills, having to make ends meet. And um I have learned that you don’t necessarily go into business the first time for your passion because then your passion will become a drain to you because you no longer love to do it because it’s backed by having to cover the bills having to make enough to meet to make ends meet even during the times when you’re struggling yourself to make a paycheck. So, do you, for example, do you start and talk to a client who’s
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thinking of it or you look at someone who’s in business that needs to re-evaluate, okay, if you did this and did that and you could do this, then you wouldn’t that. I imagine that’s the food for what you do. >> Yes. It’s getting them to rec to realize for themselves one, do they still want to do this? And if they still want to do it, I love the word pivot. What is the pivot that needs to be done in order to make it work? And to recognize that things change. If things change, we
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cannot continue to do the things the same way and expecting a different result. And then it’s recognizing are there things that need to then be part down to get to the core of what you truly love and only provide that and not think you have to provide 50 other things to cover up the very one thing that should be served, given, shared. And it’s again peeling back the onion and finding the core. What is your purpose? And I feel like when we find our personal purpose, we can then find the purpose in the
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things that we’re doing. >> Wow. Uh how do people Let me just see how we’re doing with time. >> Oh, we have time. Good. How do people find you >> right now? They could find me on Facebook. Roxan Shipley. That is a good question because I am not findable. But that’s what that’s one thing they could do. >> But they can Facebook. >> Yes. >> Roxan Shipley. S H I P L E Y. >> That is correct. >> R O X A N E. No. So that’s easy enough.
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Are you the only one they’re going to find or are you going to have to identify by something else in this world? >> Well, >> Maui. No. >> Uh Kihei. They could uh Roxan Shipley >> and you’ll see her beautiful face. I’m sure that’s how you’ll know. >> Thanks. >> Um, well, I’m really glad that you came into Akaku. Um, what is it most important that brings you passion? What do you want our audience to know? And what would you like to get happen from today that would
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make you feel like you you got done what you wanted to get done? >> That is a good question. And I think what I I never thought that I would want to do this, but I understand um why there was the initial hesitation. Um I started with the J Shetty coaching um certification and I would love to be a coach but it’s a coach to help people discover themselves to find to help them realize that they have always had the answers to the questions they have about what they should do in life and what is
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their purpose and I realize that sometimes people just need someone to hold space for them uh to hear them to validate them but then to encourage them in the that they want by allowing their answers to be the guidance to what it is that they need to do. Um, I want to coach them in them being the ones who create the path and I just help encourage and guide them on that path. I’m not here to tell them what they should and should not do. Um, because what I do is not what someone else should do. And I love the idea that
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we we all know what we need to do, what is best for ourselves and I want to help them discover what that is. >> Okay. So, um I I think as I’m I’m trying to almost come to a question like so how does someone contact you if they go to Roxan Shipley when you get new things you can give them to me and I’ll consistently update on this so we can get current information. >> I would love that. >> All right. But um so you can also find it through us. My thought is that if people want to do that, some people are
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in existing businesses and hear you and say, “God, we should talk to her and they’ll call you.” So, if you offer a phone number, which you probably don’t want to do because uh most people don’t do what I do, 808745900, that’s the number you can find us. When you call from around the world, just please respect the respect the time zone. But um most people want to give either a business number or an email or some way because I can’t imagine where viewers wherever you are you can get
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help maybe more that when you people do you mostly work in person or you work online how do you people get to you >> I love in person because there is a personability and I want to say I don’t know how people feel about this but there is an energy that I feel that helps me to know about the sincerity or the the the actual intent of the thing that they think that they want to do and it helps me to go are you sure that’s something you want to do. So I love to do it in person but we can do it over Zoom or
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even a phone call. No, but I mean, do you I’m personally So, do I say, “Okay, I’m going to give you $250 for an opening session and we’re going to evaluate and then I’m going to kind of lay out a plan and we’re going to do so much per month and these are the goals that we’re going to have to establish and you’re going to help set these goals. That’s part of this initial session what we’re doing and you’ll know what you’re trying to accomplish and how
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we might explore how to do it. Is that how you do it?” >> Yes. Okay. >> Thank you. That was a good segue. >> So, how do they That’s why I’m saying so if you have any trouble finding her, you can call us or or you can send us a message and we’ll get the word to Roxan. Um, also very important to know when I think about what you’re doing. Um, are you how long are you here? A couple of years, couple of months. >> Maui is my home. So, I am here here. >> Okay. Mhm.
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>> So you’re now that you’re here, um I’m thinking that what you’re doing when you talked about Zoom is something that all you guys on Big Island or Aahu or Kawaii, please take heed in this day and age. One of the best things about living on Maui is you do have an opportunity to make money from places other than here. And if we understand that as Maui people and businesses, there’s a whole other world. So I want to open that fact because that’s also the backbone of
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creating opportunity for people here. >> Right. >> So when we’re living here, we’re going to be able to cross boundaries that others never considered when they were starting and we’re going to take like you said, you’re the first one on Maui with a X, right? That’s a physical business. So they’re going to be businesses that’ll be probably wanting your help. the possibility of being in Maui and how to go about it. So, that’s a great thing and also the local businesses that are
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here. So, I’m really glad to have had an opportunity to speak with someone like yourself on the air. >> I’m glad I’m glad that you allowed me to come and >> I really didn’t really know what we were going to explore and why. That’s why I ask you anything that I’m not asking you that would say. He didn’t asking if I sing. I wanted to sing with him. I play the piano. That’s I can’t sing, but I play the piano a lot more confidently than I sing right now.
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>> Well, you might be for what we’re doing important to be able to have whatever level share what we’re doing with important people who know how to be important to what we’re doing. Like when I’m saying stuff, I’m never really saying it openly, but all of us have our own unique part in the matrix. Like when someone says to me, I was number 14 of the people that that Mark Zuckerberg hired. Well, first of all, you were or still are very rich, but let’s forget that. But if I wanted to be able to
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share a concept that needs to get to the right place to be able to be seen, those are as important as anything they have. So that’s why when I I listen with that kind of ear because how do you get someone that has billions to be part of a group to be able to fund an equity sharing project to help local people and buy expensive real estate and be understood to be, you know, just like you said, just because someone’s rich doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to be rich. Maybe they can spend their money
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however they want, but if they can do something that they want and help at the same, that’s the level that you hear me appealing to. But many of them would say, “Wait a minute. I don’t know if I want a house on Maui, but I will help you do this. I’m gonna be that’s >> so when I hear someone like that from something something like that from someone like you I can only think that Maui’s future is going to be depending upon those that see their place in this matrix. I see that as very highly
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regarded because you know when you have billionaires you know you have a on the this weekend you know on Labor Day weekend no billionaires we don’t want you on Maui abusing us I agree and if you we’re a neutral zone more like come on on to the show if you want we’ll have you right here or you could be on Zoom and we’ll talk about how without moving your assets you can help fund the housing project here and solve the problems. We won’t ask any money from the government. We’ll coordinate
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and they’ll keep it all in check so they’ll know that we’re not running away and doing something that’s going to not help this community. Who’s presenting those idea? We can do that. >> I say we with the capital we, but you yourself if you want to be involved. But isn’t that amazing that all we have to do is learn that there is no wall here and you go to fix LinkedIn and they say I’m sorry you only can know someone two levels deep. If you pay the right fee though you can put your message out to
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this many levels deep and oh boy wait wait wait. So the world is different. That’s why I say I don’t know how marketing works, but we’ve been doing things for 30 years that if people saw what we were doing, they’d be saying, “Yay, why didn’t we get it before? Why didn’t we do it before?” So, that’s what I carry to this show. Every time I do, I speak to a guest and I know that guest has the power to share the show. They have a power to just like you said to this person that owns a business. you if
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you see the vision and you have guidelines so you know where those guard rails are your success with your passion has nothing you’re all that you’re not getting is building you and your life is going to be perfect because you can you’re seeing what your strengths are and what makes you happy and maybe I’m not talking in the same words that you are maybe I am >> you’re doing a good job But isn’t that what you’d be saying to someone? Hey Luke, okay, you’re doing it. You’re
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running this popcorn stand. >> And if you’re running it and you don’t want to do it yourself, that’s great. But first, you are >> and you have a passion for opening it and running it. And you’re going to be making it the best popcorn stand. And not only that, others are going to want to be working with you because what they see, they want to work with you because of who and what you are and the way that you are your business, that you are the best at your business that there is. And
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you can feel good about it >> even if you never go out of this and maybe you will because you see a possibility in yourself. Mhm. >> I don’t know if I’m I talk in words that often people think, “Oh, that’s not realistic.” That’s what I do to myself. I Why not? How am I standing in my way? What am I not doing? Am I not taking that chance? Now that I’m older, I understand that even more. Why didn’t you take a dive or jump into the pool? And some people say, “Well, that’s the
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reason you’re not a scrillionaire now.” Well, maybe that’s true, but look at the lessons, life lessons that we learn along the way. >> So, we all finally find that’s how I’m looking at business. >> We find what perfect is. It is perfect. You’re learning lessons along the way to make you the best you that you can be. And that that’s when you start to smile >> instead and you sit on your own you think you’re sitting on your own television show and that nobody’s
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listening and then someone from Sweden calls you or Pakistan and does an interview with you. You know we this is a new age and but you I have to shut up. You’re talking my I always thought that business was it that people could be way better at what they do if they put their passion into what they’re doing. >> Like when you were up here helping those people share their thing, if you put passion out there into your community, you can build your community physically build your community. You know, I’m
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talking internet because I it’s all because of you. It’s your fault. All you buy online because you go to three stores and you can’t find the right softness on the pillow. So you buy it on internet and you just skip this little local vendor who really needed you to buy a pillow. So we have to figure out that what we can do. Well, um I keep going back to because it’s really important to me. What do you really want to say today? What what is it that you wanted when you came on the air? What were you
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looking to do? because I want to help if I can, right? We want to help. >> That would be great. I want to start a podcast. I want to share my voice. I want to give business advice. Um because I know business and I know that when I start talking about business, life um life experiences and life lessons come out too. And in it uh when you learn about business, it’s not just about the the finances and the thing. You learn about people. You learn about um the theory of things and the actuality of things. You learn about
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laws and taxes. You learn about all these things that are components of the whole. And I would love to break that down. I could talk all day. All day. So I guess if I had a median, >> could you talk to those guys? >> Um yes, I can. And what should I sh just share that? >> No, you just shared it. You see that? >> You see what we learn after is that this seat >> has as much I want to say power. As much as we give it. If you put this show out, you’re going to get response. You’re and
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you keep putting it out, you’re going to get and you keep putting it out. Isn’t that what we’re talking about? So this camera represents the world to me because the world will hear this message. still here. Hey, you know if you’re on Maui, do you know that on September 20th? Well, we’re on what are we on right now? >> The ETH. >> We’re the 8th. So, in a couple of weeks, you can come to a creative social at Akaku from 10 to 12, you can register here at Akaku, which is at 333 Dairy
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Road, Maui Creative Social. It has video and film and radio and podcast and talk story and there are going to be people like Roxan and myself there and uh we’re going to be talking about what can happen here at Akaku and whatever you want to talk about. So that’s a great that’s September 20th. I’d put that on your schedule anyone out there. Well, if that wasn’t enough, if you’re once you start coming here in the mornings on Saturday, you’re going to say there’s a
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podcasting basis workshop with su with Suzie Gas Fusy Gas. I don’t know how to spell it or say it. I know how to spell it, but she has a 10 to 12 workshop on podcasting. Susie has been here a number of years supporting enrolls in Akaku and knows it all and she’s going to teach about podcasting and basics from 10 to 12 on Saturday the 27th. You can call here at Akaku which is 808871554. We’re at 333 Dair Road Sweet 205 in Kahalui Maui 96732. I don’t know why you would write in if you’re on and you can
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see this. You can scan it in onto your phone or other device if you can get that close, but you probably shouldn’t. You should probably go to akaku.org. You’ll see or call. That’s a two creative things in the weekends. And if weekends don’t hold enough, during the week, every third Thursday upstairs in Akaku, that’s the same 333 Dairy Road, sweet 204, not 206 or 205, but 204. Cat Tracy has Akaku upstairs and Maui’s deadly firestorm, a screening with um people that were survivors of the
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firestorm if you will in Lahina and Kula. I don’t know what this is, but if you want to find out first time, it’s on PBS and Front Line has been seen. And um this is another one. And if you can see this, like I say, look at the Akaku website. I’m sure they’ll lead you to what this is is all about. I don’t know which camera is on which, but we’ll see. So, that’s really a Thursday, every third Thursday. And uh every Saturday, or truly seems like often Saturdays, they have different things here at
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Akaku, 10 to 12 upstairs. That’s a great thing. I hope I haven’t bored you with some of this other stuff here. No, because it was actually the social that brought me here and um met some really good people. >> See? Yeah. >> So, >> yes, share it because that’s how I found out about it. >> See that? >> That’s a really good example of how getting to uh come out to some of these things. I know that I want to be at that workshop about podcast because people
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have been telling me you’ve been doing podcasts forever. My brother started a podcast has 10,000 I asked him, “How did you get all those things?” He said, “I don’t know. Kids in my school gave me a thing and they put it they spent $10,000.” There are ways. That’s why I say things happen and you young people out there and out here know better than me because you know I’m I’m talking a lot of these ideas and not doing them. But that’s why as a dream maker
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>> through the years I hope I’m the guiding force just sort of like you are. That’s why I found such a an alignment where we’re going to have to talk and I can show you where through our mutual ideas you might be able to accomplish your goals and my our >> isn’t that the way life should be to find that we together accomplish more than just separate because we is you know when someone says I’m happy are you happy in a void of nothing if you see things around you that aren’t happy.
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Does that make you happy? So, I live in a world, I’m sure you live in a world where people’s successes are your joy. That’s what you find in what you share and what you do. That’s a beautiful thing. >> I would agree. >> So, I know we have a little bit of time, so I’m I wouldn’t call it stretching. Tell us about you. I mean, what did you do before here? You had a marriage and a wife and kids and you’re doing everything at the same time. >> You look so young. It truly
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>> Thank you. You know, um I was married for 21 years. I do have six kids. My oldest will be 21 this month and my youngest uh just turned nine and the rest in between are about two and a half years apart. >> Maui? >> Uh all in Santa Barbara. Uh, I went to UC Santa Barbara and I was going to study business, economics, and uh, political science. I wanted to be a lawyer and then eventually a Supreme Court judge. But look where it got me. It was the idea that it was a goal that I reached for, but isn’t the it isn’t
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necessarily that you reach it, but it helps you move in that direction. And as we move in that direction, we find that we are pushed to and fro and um to find the actual path that we need to be on. And being here in Maui has helped me to find that path even though lots of things have happened in my life. Um I have four girls and two boys. Uh one of the things that I wanted to do with my children was to become the mother that I wish I had. And um I have a great relationship with my mom. And it was
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when I moved out of the house that I started to have a relationship with her. And had she not raised me the way that she did, I would not have been able to raise my children consciously the way that I did. And it was definitely with more love, with more attention, more encouragement in the things that I knew that they were good at and focused on the positive. And uh when we moved to Hawaii, the the family structure is a lot different than what we were surrounded by in Santa Barbara. And I was grateful that during the time I was
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able to be their mother and I was encouraged um as their mother when I was married. So that is the positive thing that came out of it. Um that they saw the difference and have um spoken gratitude to me for um raising them the way that they did. So, that brings a lot of joy to me as a mother cuz that’s not what I was looking for, but I’m grateful to have received it. And um I came here to do business. Business is definitely what um I did. And um oh, I came here for accounting. Uh instead,
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that fell through. We came anyway. And um I got into we bought a food truck on Aahu across from um Giovani’s Giovani Shrimp. Uh we sold drinks. That is when I discovered how lucrative the uh food industry is, but it’s on small menu, very specific. Don’t have everything. Uh don’t offer everything because you can’t. But if you were to offer, what can you offer the best thing of that the of that thing? and we did drinks and um that’s that led me to Mr. Cow. Mr. Cow led me to Maui and um the success from
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that led me to uh work a little bit in Cold Stones that didn’t exactly end up the way that I wanted, but I learned so much about again seeing what the good was there and Cold Stone Ice Cream that’s in the PKI shopping center. Um, it is now owned by new owners, but the the drive and the desire to make it grow, to provide the good ice cream that my family and I love and the ice cream cakes that I still get to decorate. Um, definitely could pick up uh Coltson ice cream there. I’m just uh and then from
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there it’s like if this isn’t what I’m going to do, what is it? And I realized that I was at the front lines in cold stones. Like I was doing the day-to-day, but doing the day-to-day did not allow me to do what I was what I was good at. And that was talking to other business owners, growing, helping them see what I’m involved with. And because I was involved with it, they then would want to um contribute and support. And I realized people support not just the business name like Cold
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Stones, they support the people behind it. And if there are good people behind it, whatever you bring out into the world, um, you can ensure that it’s going to be supported. So that’s why I got into business. >> Well, you’re a terrific person, never mind a terrific guest. I would like to see success of what you do. Um, anything that from this show, for example, we know that they could go to Roxanne Shipley up on Facebook and find you >> and reach out there and right as a new
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friend or however they message. >> Yeah. Or they can message me. >> Yeah. >> In this new age of of contact, that should be enough. But if you need to speak to Roxan, you can also get her through us. And if you’re on the radio, you can’t see. So 8088745900 talk or text Maui neutralzone.com but really YouTubedream Maui number one Maui stream all these ways. You know what’s so fun? If you want to be found these days you be found. >> So uh Roxan I really have appreciated
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you as a guest today. I um hope that you will come back as your successes grow. I know that I’m going to want to talk to you about what I do, but I know that you’re going to also want to come on the 20th from 10 to 12 to the Maui Creative Social here at Aaku because that’s how you met all of us. And there are many people coming out. You come out too. All you out there in radio and TV land, media land, internet land, podcast on the 20th, >> podcast basics on the 27th. 20th is the
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um creative social and every Thursday, third Thursday is up there in um Akaku upstairs. Well, we only have 46. Roxan Shipley, thank you for being on our show. It’s been a pleasure. >> Thank you for having me. I I’m excited to do it again. Yeah, I look forward to that. And out there in radio TV land, thank you for joining us. See you again. All those around the world, we love you. Just make sure when you call and contact us, we are up. Love you everyone.
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