SEVAN Thometz – an Extraordinary Multi-media artist

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Jason Schwartz sits with SEVAN THOMETZ . Jason sits with Artist & Sculptor SEVAN THOMETZ… explore subjects of art, airbrush equipment invention, Urantia Book, Mural painting …3rdLevelDown.com Sevan shares his many interests… college creative programs- Financial aid– enjoy!..8-12-2019

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Interview with Sevan Thometz on The Neutral Zone

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            [00:00 → 05:39] Introduction and Early Artistic Career

• The show opens with Jason Schwartz introducing the program The Neutral Zone on Maui’s KAKU 88.5 FM. Jason reflects on his long history with the Maui Arts and Music Association and introduces his guest, Sevan Thometz, an artist and inventor with a rich creative background.
• Sevan Thometz is introduced as a multi-talented artist whose work spans murals, sculptures, and various other media. Jason recalls meeting him in the late 1980s and early 1990s and witnessing his impressive murals around Maui.
• Sevan discusses his first major mural project from 1989 in Santa Monica, a large-scale environmental mural sponsored by Sea Shepherd, addressing whaling issues. The mural measured 150 by 50 feet and took him about a year to complete.
• This mural became the starting point for an environmental walk across the country, where Sevan followed the walkers and painted murals along the route from Santa Monica to Washington D.C., promoting awareness on environmental and social issues.
• He involved the community, including over 300 children, who painted parts of the mural, emphasizing the collaborative and educational nature of the project.
• Jason and Sevan reminisce about the artistic environment of the time, the mural movement, and other local artists, highlighting Sevan’s versatility across different artistic styles, from realism to abstract.

1. 1. 1. 1. [05:39 → 20:52] Artistic Philosophy, Local Maui Life, and Housing Issues

• Sevan elaborates on his creative drive: a deep desire to express the emotional soul and create connections with viewers that trigger their own creativity and emotional response.
• Jason and Sevan discuss some of Sevan’s notable murals on Maui, including a whale mural in Kihei that was never fully realized as planned.
• They touch briefly on local personalities and artists, community dynamics, and the evolving art scene on the island.
• The conversation shifts to changes in Maui’s landscape and housing. Sevan comments on the tension between development and preservation, noting how low-density zoning is being challenged by multi-bedroom “little hotels” built for relatives or renters.
• They lament lost opportunities to preserve natural beach access and green spaces, reflecting on how Maui has grown from a vacation spot with open spaces to a place increasingly dominated by housing developments.
• Jason remarks on the growing population and resource challenges, particularly water supply, emphasizing that these issues were predicted decades ago but have become more urgent.

1. 1. 1. 1. [20:52 → 32:49] The Urantia Book and Spiritual Exploration

• The conversation transitions into Sevan’s spiritual interests, particularly his decades-long study of The Urantia Book, a complex spiritual and philosophical text.
• Sevan shares how he was introduced to the book 40 years ago and how it expanded his consciousness around concepts of God, the universe, and the life and teachings of Jesus.
• He explains that The Urantia Book presents a unique perspective on divinity, including an interpretation of the Trinity: God as the Thought, the Son as the Word, and the Spirit as the Action.
• Sevan reflects on the book’s challenge to readers, noting that it took him many readings to grasp its depth, but that the experience profoundly influenced his understanding of spirituality and creativity.
• Jason and Sevan discuss how spiritual teachings often face resistance from established religious groups, paralleling the reactions to new ideas presented by Jesus himself.
• Sevan emphasizes that his engagement with the book is not about intellectual understanding alone but about feeling and experiencing the spiritual growth it inspires.

1. 1. 1. 1. [32:49 → 42:48] Life Experience, Aging, and Continuous Learning

• The dialogue moves to Sevan’s reflections on life, aging, and the importance of continuous learning.
• Despite being nearly 69, Sevan expresses feeling young at heart and still eager to grow intellectually and spiritually.
• He mentions attending college classes alongside much younger students, finding it a mutually enriching experience that challenges and inspires both generations.
• Jason and Sevan discuss the rapid acceleration of technology, information access, and societal change over the past 50 years, highlighting how this era has been extraordinary for human knowledge and connectivity.
• They share appreciation for being able to live on Maui amidst these changes, acknowledging the balance between preserving the island’s essence and adapting to modern realities.

1. 1. 1. 1. [42:48 → 55:58] Education, Financial Aid, and Artistic Innovation

• Sevan talks about the value of going back to school as an older adult. He has been taking classes part-time at the University of Hawaii Maui College, benefiting from federal financial aid programs such as FAFSA.
• He stresses the importance of lifelong learning and staying current with technology, marketing, and creative media skills to remain relevant and inspired.
• The challenges and rewards of integrating with younger students and adapting to new modes of education are discussed.
• Sevan also reveals his invention: the Prism Airbrush Palette, a valve system allowing airbrush artists to mix colors on the fly by manipulating five valves, enabling instant color blending.
• This invention enhances the capabilities of airbrush artists by providing a physical, manual way to mix colors much like digital color sliders on a computer.
• He notes that while the device is intuitive for him, many artists find it challenging to master due to the complexity of airbrushing itself.
• The Prism Airbrush Palette is sold exclusively through his website, priced affordably at $97, and is compatible with most airbrushes.
• Jason and Sevan discuss the potential impact of this tool on the art world, hoping it will revolutionize airbrush techniques by making color mixing more accessible and dynamic.

1. 1. 1. 1. [55:58 → 57:15] Closing Remarks and Contact Information

• As the show wraps up, Sevan encourages viewers and listeners to explore his work and inventions through his website, thirdleveldown.com.
• Jason praises Sevan as a multifaceted, world-class artist whose creativity shines through every project.
• They mention plans for future shows with more space to showcase Sevan’s art and inventions.
• Sevan concludes with a simple, profound message: “Father’s love, God is love.”
• Jason thanks the audience for tuning in and invites them to check out The Neutral Zone online at mauineutralzone.com.

1. 1. 1. Key Insights

• Sevan Thometz is a lifelong artist whose work spans murals, sculptures, and technological innovation in art tools.
• His environmental murals have engaged communities and been part of broader social movements.
• Spirituality and creativity are deeply intertwined in Sevan’s life, notably through his study of The Urantia Book.
• Lifelong learning and adaptation to new technology and education methods are central to his philosophy.
• His invention, the Prism Airbrush Palette, aims to transform airbrush art by simplifying color mixing.
• The conversation reflects broader themes of community, preservation, growth, and the evolving cultural landscape of Maui.

1. 1. 1. Keywords

• Sevan Thometz
• Murals
• Environmental art
• Sea Shepherd
• The Urantia Book
• Spirituality
• Trinity
• Lifelong learning
• University of Hawaii Maui College
• FAFSA financial aid
• Prism Airbrush Palette
• Art innovation
• Maui arts and culture
• Housing development
• Population growth
• Community art

1. 1. 1. FAQ

Q1: What was Sevan Thometz’ first major mural project?
A1: A 150 x 50-foot environmental mural in Santa Monica sponsored by Sea Shepherd, addressing whaling issues, completed in 1989.

Q2: How does Sevan describe his artistic motivation?

A2: He aims to express the emotional soul and trigger creativity and emotional responses in viewers.

Q3: What spiritual text has influenced Sevan significantly?
A3: The Urantia Book, a complex spiritual and philosophical work that expanded his understanding of God, the universe, and Jesus.

Q4: What is the Prism Airbrush Palette?
A4: An invention by Sevan that allows airbrush artists to mix multiple colors on the fly using a valve system, enhancing artistic flexibility.

Q5: How has Sevan’s approach to education evolved?
A5: He returned to college later in life, utilizing federal financial aid, embracing new technology, and learning alongside younger students.

This detailed summary reflects the interview’s rich content, capturing Sevan Thometz’ artistic journey, philosophical insights, and innovative contributions while maintaining the structure and flow of the original transcript.

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[Music] Dan’s comment on a recent event the floor is yours come speak in mine for free appointments are available Mondays and Wednesdays between one and three call eight seven one five five if I for today to reserve the spot Maui’s free speech station k EKU 88.9 FM the neutral zone with me Jason Schwartz would like to thank Maui Arts and Music Association tree makers Foundation of Maui for their support since 1991 hundreds of television shows and their maui arts and music comm website they have champion self

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sustainability on mouth neutral zone is heard live Mondays at 11 a.m. and replayed saturday at 7 a.m. on kak 88.5 FM welcome [Music] [Music] [Music] good morning everyone Aloha Jason Schwartz we’re here at the neutral zone these are my blue glasses to go with my blue shirt you know as as I am not seeing I have all these fun accessories Elton John is I wouldn’t say retiring and say retired so our baby will have him on the show and see what kind of glasses he wants to wear I have a terrific guest today not only a

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wonderful man but an incredibly talented guy some of you know salon doughnuts now that name rolls

off my tongue because I know Sevan I’m not you gosh 25 years maybe over the pretty much from the beginning that I’ve been here when I was here in 92 well when you came in 92 I was here four years already I got here in 88 it seemed that early on I met a guy named dr. and L get on yeah and I know that you know and we live alone for a while you know probably how we ended up coming into contact and aiiowing new to

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you as oh that’s my artist that’s my artist roommate Sevan and I know you because you had done a couple of murals yep and when I saw these murals around alia like really impressed and here you are living there with my friend and helping jor-el if you’re up in pula go to cool hospital go say hello to dr. up and he’s there at the cool Hospital but that’s when I met you and I thought man this guy is super talented and I was in 91 1991 at four of the Maui Arts and Music Association and I was looking through

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like you know sometimes making okay we need sponsors we need to find galleries and I was always shocked because when I saw your work I saw you’re not only with doing murals were you doing all kinds of other media and I didn’t see you I thought wow this guy is great at some point I expected to see a rocket go off in 1989 I discovered this just yesterday and I’m talking but we should say hello Simone oh good morning good morning how you doing help everybody here y’all be liberally cuz my mouth just keeps going

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well that’s part of your job nobody survives art you were doing murals I saw this beautiful article from the Los Angeles Times who talked about a mural movement mm-hmm iron mentalist in Santa Monica who has grown into a nationwide plan tell me more about so that was actually my first mural oh really and that mural was a hundred and fifty by fifty feet Wow basically at one point Sea Shepherd and what’s the actual sponsor okay and it was to you know basically talk about the whaling problems the wats in that group

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right Paul I talked to Paul directly and some of the other folks that were part of that took me a year to complete it at the completion there was a group of people that were walking from the base well they had chosen my Merrill to start their walk across the country so basically what I’m looking at here is I’m just looking the volume level looks high I just don’t want it to distort if I can help it no problem okay discovered your mural they discovered the marrow and decided that they wanted to begin the actual

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walk from the base of that mural before I go into that I wanted to express that we also had worked into that mural the community effort of children to do the bottom section of that mural there were over 300 children that ended up doing that now it’s pretty exciting himself and I remember the day but after that I had communicated with the person that originated the walk and I said I want to be able to proceed your walk and do murals as so that when you come into that area you would have a mural to go

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to to begin your conversation and news orientation so this environmental movement did you do that where you going across the country might get girls I went from Santa Monica to Santa Fe then to perfer Texas there you go and then from there to st. Louis you know if any of these euros are still out there I think they’re probably all then that’s 1982 90 Terry I don’t believe they are so you really were taking a journey where else did you go well the end of the journey for me was in Washington DC

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which basically I was supported by I guess it was SEF because they were doing a focus on the children of the world feed the children so that mural was focused on the children and different inoculation different things like that say help before children of different areas when you started the first year was the first murals vision do you have it by chance I do well you know you on radio you’re gonna have to wait until you go to either Facebook live or mounted to zone calm or can you do on Facebook you’d see

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it you also see it on YouTube you can look it up but when you are in television what are we that YouTube God knows that the media thing is a big blur to me there’s visual there’s all kinds of places everywhere you know I’m not the very best picture in regards to it but this is the so what we’re seeing here is turn it up a little bit like you hold it up a little okay there you go so the people on on the video can see now what I look at that is that a wave is that a whale well there’s a whale in a wave

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let’s let’s go to it this is I’m showing this because this shows the size dimension and so forth you can see the people here well yeah this is not the New York this is Santa Monica Times Santa Monica Ted you know we’re in an age where people can look at these things better than we ever known about showing it on TV you to look on that see hunson if another snapshot of it so the Santa Monica newspaper 1989 this article was a problem with also 19 December 17th 1989 well ah from that when I see whales I

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remember when I first got here the years going on I remember the above and below deal I was looking for a logo I said there’s a while–and little lass and the combination of artists were equal together when you came over here were you like all these guys are sort of doing around over know what those guys are following me uh no actually I probably I don’t know if I felt that because that that’s fine the actual mural that I did in Santa Monica was originally going to be done by Weiland

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oh really but there was some problems between Weiland and as a shepherd it was an attitude problem yeah from Weiland himself right yeah so they basically nixed at with him and somehow I can’t even remember well I ended up falling into it because when I got here and I saw Weiland doing his thing I met him and his brother you know as much develop this madly Arts and Music Association and I always thought I was going to be seeing your stuff because your talent has always been something might have been really very

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good I mean I maze you know come on take your money and when I put your name in on the internet so on until Metz you’ll see it on screen se va and th om etz and I looked at part I mean I saw a site fine America stuff like that’s right where you really work in all kinds of different worlds in realism in abstract very versatile did you just play with it what drives your creativity and that’s a good question because I never know I’m just well you know I’m that I will bring up something I think possibly what

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really drives me is the desire to express the emotional soul that all of us experience and somehow to connect with that and put it out there so that other people can experience the triggering mechanism of what creativity does to the individual so by example I made it could be the draw image and people are drawn to that image in what’s going on but you’re looking for the essence to trigger something in somebody to where even their response is creativity exactly exactly that’s that’s a terrific thing because I

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saw things that I thought over looks like what great well it looks like a long too tall a lot of us why we talk about roommates I’m how much been a challenge it’ll last longer on Central Avenue you know Obon is a hot you know if I didn’t know my daughter I remember the whale and Kihei that’s up there right Charmaine was supposed to turn it into a a spouting way ha ha and put up the money and then a long abandon it was quite an a lot of people have expressed why no one who did that all

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day but yeah yeah he’s an interesting character he’s instantly called man with the hat lono sang a song little red man we used to talk about any ropes mani wrote that song everywhere he’s still around I haven’t heard him I’ve seen him in anything he a he doesn’t thank you yes all I know they are the others yeah I know seems to be in California and when referendums and things he got paid for getting signatures that was his livelihood Tom then they changed the law there years ago and I think was you know

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to get referendums they want signatures to go on ballot the time doing it now for example at Florida’s mine and they get so many dollars per signature of correctly registered voters and you submit it to the Registrar that was his past some very interesting guy one of our than one of the one of the key Hays yeah that’s a better funny story but creativity know what I was just talking about you you are in Kirov seen you do sculptures have you seen non sculptures so now let us talk about it as we’re looking you

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know that looks like a beautiful wing is that a wing of simply no it’s a woman’s a woman in there I just read a television if you go to my actual web page you can see it much clearer well we’ll have to do them because I just brought these two pages up to remind me but I’m not hooked up actually to the Internet I think yeah oh yeah your mom probably the Photowall you’d have to be to get clear once I got the pictures all I think it was now see I have not hooked up to the Internet

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I brought enough so I have some other image throw that on my phone I remind me oh yeah I want to remember this piece what I see your art well let’s get back to the sculpture please like each one is so interesting and different wings is that a full pet for a tall woman that’s a woman let’s see tells you what my eyesight yeah you’re just as good as mine oh that’s beautiful many of your website yes what’s your wedding dress it’s three there number three Rd Rd level down

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level down calm third level down calm that’s all well basically where I live is the multiplicative structure and I’m at the third level down that’s very funny that is very funny you know when I think of that I think do you remember my mind is really in a funny way today there was a fire in Malley years ago I was a little area on cupola it was hokey pidrive and lelee towns and – I’m sure that our Minister of fun was living in Alex & Arrows that’s another interesting people were there and then

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there was this flyer in their house one – each level had a full house – ha and on each level we was going down the you know when you go down the side of a property it’s like this right you build like that’s pretty much where I am yeah amid PA yeah right oh you’ve been torn Studios out from Konami oh yeah I know yeah yeah I am always interested to think I mean I saw yesterday so Lindsay and when you were living on that oh this street there Maui meadows you were about yeah that was there for a while yeah

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that’s what I think what I may be that’s what that you know we met before they vote yeah because basically you had given a me an interview when I was living off of Kanani directly off of Cavani oh it was that house was kind of second down from when you turn the street I’m real close to where I was in oh man it’s changed a lot no it’s amazing I feel the pain you know everyone we used to go down the Kihei road and make a left-hand turn no huh I remember that was exciting I also remember the times when you used to

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be able to go to hkey a cafe and they would have a post where the horses would be tied to now it’s in 192 yeah and a lot of lots changed yeah and some of it said some of it good yeah not so heartbroken as I would be if it had been like big tall buildings and so far they have kept it relatively low-key yeah well you know is that funny balance between yeah I like the idea of low when I think about the housing problem and I real-looking khalili for example and I see that the single-family residence by

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the nature of the zoning with zero a lot line hmm then they build these things up and build four or five bedrooms upstairs and used to call them hotels little hotels basically where a family comes from another country or someone owns it and then all the relatives coming you know it’s just a mix or no relatives that to go up a second level well that could save our see using our open space which we need for other things like this used to be a vacation place with open space and I go down Google of south of

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the kailani there you know that little spot where we had an opportunity our mayor Lingle there was money that was available and she chose to buy something else instead of this piece of land that would have been a beautiful beach for us to preserve and now it’s all houses and for a few million dollars we bought a little sliver so we have access to the beach the whole place is barely turned into a mega rich yeah well so far I’m fortunate to be able to still be living there no I’m just gonna say what you

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know but I’m talking about now when we look about housing and we look about like you’re talking about the changes good summer bad I guess the one that always jumps out to me is the incredible crowds we have remember in the 90s we do you remember what they’re talking about population growth was going to be a major thing mm-hmm and we said it was going to be a major thing and they didn’t want to listen and now it’s becoming more and more of a problem we’re gonna end up probably I don’t know what we’re gonna

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do about the water supply for one I don’t know we’re gonna take a break for our sponsors but yeah we’ll come back and talk about all that I’m with Sevan oh that’s an extraordinary man but also an extraordinary artist etc and we’ll be back in just a couple of minutes so hang on get a jump of protecting Maui’s coral reefs no need to wait for Hawaii’s new sunscreen water go in effect this is Archie khalipa asking you to make the switch today to sunscreens that do not

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maui arts and music comm website they have champion self sustainability on now the neutral zone is heard live Mondays at 11 a.m. and replayed saturday at 7 a.m. on ka k you 88.5 FM the voice of Maui we are back I’m Jason Schwartz of hit with Sevan illness we are on the neutral zone on 88.5 FM the voice of maui ka k you for those of you who know television on maui a.k.a k you is our Maui community media we have ikkaku which has really been a backbone of communication free speech and available

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so that all of you can create your own TV shows and this is a spinoff it’s radio it’s not TV but because we’re on Facebook I’m sitting here in the studio there’s a giant blurred line just like paint all wonderful artists when i think of you i i and i reg think of artists but then in the next second we were just sitting here and i realized i live for a couple of years with Reverend Jim Kimmel up in Kula and the arranger book became suddenly got on my radar I did maybe 25 shows with Jim Tom yes asking questions

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of him uh-huh and he responded we’d go to different places in the book you just mentioned you know the urantia book tell me more about that because you’ve been studied in a while I’ve been studying it for about 40 years here the first time I ever seemed it was here on the islands the big island man came up to me and said you’ve got the kind of philosophy that you might enjoy this book and when he handed it to me the one thing that he said which was I think sticks to me at all times

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this book is either the best science fiction book you’ve read or it’s true oh really he said yeah and I’m okay and at that moment from that moment I’ve been completely focused into reading it it expands and has expanded my consciousness of God the universe Jesus Christ all of the different variations Jim was an extremely capable guy as you know you know he was he was and he just completely got into it and I every Sunday he had groups getting together you may have I’ve been to many of them

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yeah well you know the fourth section of that book where it talks about the life and teachings of Jesus uh-huh I know I’m Jewish kid or I grew up Jewish and I always thought that Christians I was interested because I really wanted a close accounting of there’s someone coming in keep going okay kind of that the Christians would get that’s better thank you I was the hands feet of God Tony is really yeah yes the local show two locals from huh he’s also the capable engineer and make someone like

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me go on the air because I can’t see buttons right but the the first sections when I first started I started with book 4 which was the life and teachings of Jesus you’ve started with that that’s where I when I started when you started reading that’s right because when I was interviewing kimmel the part that seems most easily relatable exactly was the one that was akin with something they already knew about right and I thought Christians would embrace it and like dig in really watch em but what happened

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between this day and that day how does this piece go together with that piece oh that makes a logical sense now I understand what happened but I found that my got an opposite reaction oh yeah well it’s even like when you think about when Christ was here and he was presenting new concepts to the Jews and – you know those who were in charge right they were not willing to give up their cherished beliefs to expand beyond that right and he never really took away from them what they believed no but he

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added – yeah it was like I always was so amazed that I’m still believing that many Christians will say the rancher book oh yeah what is that I I want to read it because like you said if you read sections 1 2 & 3 I’m still struggling to get through it but you’ve probably gone through it many times 50 50 times I’ve read it from front to back 50 times at least wow that must be an incredible source of inspiration it’s exactly that’s all I think I guess that’s what I was trying

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to get at when I mention it is just how inspiring it has been in my life right you know it’s opened my consciousness of things that beyond even what I would question anything how they pick out and say we’ll eat or something but anything that we I don’t want to say tease you guys no rbt’s but you would be like to be interested you are a look I mean I I was playing like I said with the fourth section Jesus but I was wondering about the urgent okay you coming a little bit off they’re coming

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off I’m off he knows what he’s doing means as I think so you know that thing about when you’re too far from microphone you get that sort of rooms you know versus when you eat it and they wonder why I do some well I’m surprised he hasn’t come to me no I say it’s interesting how our racism you know I’m interesting no but out anything because I will always struggle when talking to Jim and an interview format to ask questions and reach into books 1 2 & 3 I can pull out regarding the concepts

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that the kind of a throw around in regards to explaining them that always has a deep very involved process which of your engine book goes through but it basically begins to express the creation of the universe and it starts out first of all with an understanding of what God is what God that’s how he expresses himself himself herself and the point regarding the Trinity is probably one of the more difficult points to get across to people and even in the ranch book but it’s relatively simple in the fact that

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as I think most people have heard the story of that well let’s put it simply God is the thought the son is the word and the spirit is the action and that is the hell the Trinity functions and without the Trinity there would be no father which is the most major part of what we humans how we can associate to God we can only really associated to God as a father because it’s the only way we can see that vast universe without having him creating the Trinity which was being the father of the son there

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would not be that father essence Wow so interesting also that that concept as I’m thinking of thinking about B do have there are lots of there’s a lot of different variations that all are that same basic concept right the urantia book not only fascinating I I hope that I know now it’s gonna reach stimulate me I don’t know where to begin of the beginning I’ll tell you something in regards to the difficulty of the urantia book when I first read it I couldn’t understand hardly 75% of what I

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was reading but I felt like I was basically shooting through the universe as I was reading it so I decided at that point I don’t really need to understand as much as feel and experience what it was doing to my soul my spirit my being did you read it aloud you read it no I read it silently I remember I was a lot of times at that time I was working as a dishwasher and put the urantia book up on the shelf while I was doing dishes and be reading it and that’s a thought and an action together yeah so 40 years

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ago I mean I guess I was around 40 years ago yeah rewind that’s like in the 79 yeah oh no 69 that’s when I first was introduced so that’s 50 years of an incredible yeah I know seems like yesterday doesn’t it to those therefore I want to say up in age I don’t what up in ages anymore I still feel like a kid and I’m still almost 69 so I don’t feel like I’m ready for a retirement shelf you know our world is changing we were talking here behind us about how we who are they want to say you know at

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least getting up there in age we’ve had a lot of experience going to the college and going and experiencing college classes with young PE it is like a double hitter you go and you get to be there and the young people get to see what an older person who is still open to learning and growing you know and it catches us up as older people to this incredible movement of our society over these 50 years that we’re talking about the acceleration of everything in our world more people more inventions

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changes in technology uses of resources ideas coming together in new ways available information that we never could get before the ability to save it for later so the Akashic records can now be put on let me when I say all this stuff but we’ve lived a really amazing period of existence absolutely and I cherish every day that I’m like you said earlier I can still live here in Maui because people have attention on money and this and that when the essence again we all have our own definitions but the

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to me the essence of life is just that feeling of wholeness that feeling of completeness of oneness when I can carry that into my actions I see that in the work that you do really holistic work I mean I I almost want to like each of the areas of your art so much is there and I can see when you talk about the ranch a book I see I was looking at some of you’re out online i can see different worlds and different concepts and whatever i see you quote you don’t control it as creator but you spark that

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investigation my investigation into what you’re doing so you’ve been very inspirational in many levels to me oh that’s and i’m very thankful for hearing that because that’s probably my major reason for being an artist i have yet to actually be unknown artists but my drive is still oh you know that’s an interesting thing i think of you as a diamond and when people start looking at our shows and seeing what we’re doing they’re going to spot this and spot you and and all that you put out because you

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are a top-flight world-class guy i know it always has just been so expressive to me so you know the fact world-renowned we wonder someone once said to me it’s the work we do it’s not necessarily what others think of it or see it so your your gift has been incredible creation and how you spark others you know so you’re a success to me in so many ways thank you so I know we’re going all over the map you mentioned to me you’re an inventor and I thought we should just stop your shift

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another thing because ask people will look into you they’re gonna see your heart and you probably are available through all these sources do you have any way that people can comfortably get in touch with you again it’s all on my webpage and my web pages third level down calm third level down calm and in our world of Google and Bing put Sevan Oh Mets yeah well that will bring up multiple things you know in regards to that you know it doesn’t it’s like Schwartz Jason exactly come on it’s

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not Smith oh yeah but you know I really appreciate and I’ve always appreciated every time I’ve seen you I’ve seen a different facet and like you say because your art has been so different you’re not boring you’re like really like a diamond thing it’s a shine you know I didn’t really know that you who theoretically have no idea that you know my old friend Kimmel oh well yeah yeah I know Kimmel and multiple different people I even actually have met some of the original contact people of the event

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look Wow and when I first got a hold of it I had to go I had to say well what’s going on you know until I met blood of those people if inventions and things me or no this is directly after the 555 in Chicago in Chicago right because I know the guy from celestial seasons right was somehow involved right I guess heavily right yeah it’s yeah see yeah I mean these things all tie together in the whole world it’s very interest or even talk about Jimi Hendrix had read the urantia book oh say that’s good and that’s why it

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said are you experienced but speaking of experience one of the things that we’ve gone through both you and I is giving the opportunity to be supported or helped by the government to allow us to go back to school isn’t that wonderful at once it’s just amazing many of you know that we are students and when we stop learning we stop growing exactly’s and our world keeps moving so there’s a financial aid program available FAFSA is a federal assistance for financial and FA FSA and

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when you go there you discover wow there’s student aid you can go back to school and the government will give you loans and some grants if qualified or give you a good grants and that you can go back so here as older American I’ve gone back to school to keep polishing the Apple to keep learning keep growing as the new programs have coming out and computer mm-hmm phone and all the things that make our world today so unique even in the last 20 years when I see kids and they’re on the phone the

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old people always come the first thing they come in they’re all on their phones that’s the way the world is now we’re all like plugged in but we learn through this financial aid it has been a great hasn’t it been a great experience almost already been great I was surprised when those classes I took at the car I was at the college University of Hawaii College I was able to get straight A’s there you go you know it was probably at my age at this point in time I’m much more focused on learning rather than

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when I was at the age is where yeah I mean it’s like like they say why is youth wasted out of you it was like what a great experience to go into the class that’s what I do I do it I drink told me too much and I don’t worry about the grades and I also I’m excelling and we also find that some of these kids are pretty sharp pick time but and this a growth and learning curve in the interaction they’re not what I like they old guy at the corner I haven’t really integrated in all the

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classes it’s a challenge because like you said but at the same time when I was in the classes and we’ll be going back yeah this fall but at that point in time I realized that I want to communicate with these kids I want to learn from them even though I’m the older guy they got that smarts that quickness to their brains that I have to work a lot harder for so it’s a good symbiotic thing because they’re also looking at us and realizing well that when maybe as old as their parents and grandparents but we’re

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still interested in what they’ve got to say exactly to a level of interest and they show it back honey see that’s when I think about my Maui Arts and Music Association idea where I was going and where it is going yeah it’s the education that we get to understand the landscape and see that all these young people are meant to be roles in this great picture that can save our planet if you wouldn’t lend of what save the arrangement book we’ll probably say oh well you can probably tell me this is

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always an evolving story exactly so now I am so thankful for the financial aid it has given me I’ve used it part-time going to school it’s been like six years a little bit of financial aid means a little less having to quote work in a conventional job and as it opened up my mind and increased my skills and also lets me introduce this idea of financial aid to all of you out there and most amazing is the older Americans are older people that still really would like to know what these kids are doing with all

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these devices can be frustrating boy jump in here god just keep the [Laughter] what is your passion you were talking about the invention I don’t want to go oh okay well basically it’s a way in which to an airbrush artist can change and mix colors on the fly I remember seeing yeah you actually did kind of a little quick little interview with me and so forth and it’s gaps to the majority of air brooches and basically what it is is a valve system that through manipulating five different

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valves each having incremental color well in your color but they also have you know you can slide it to open more less and open all of them at one time if you choose to be able to mix any color existing in the spectrum using primary colors and white oh and I’m thinking about that my mind is off today I’ve seen a computer screen and seeing a little slider that shows and more light here’s our rainbow around the circle or however it’s done in a computer it’s the the manual approach to what they’re

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doing in the computer how to mix all colors and assign them different numbers and you do it physically with diet basically with with of lipid I’ll be honest how could it take you long once you develop this to learn how to use it effectively well for me it was pretty much right away but I have noticed and I’m sold quite a few but I have noticed that it’s very difficult for people to take that effort to really learn how to utilize it now when they start using the airbrush they’ve had to go through a very complex

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process of learning that but it appears to me that when they receive my particular device they don’t seem to want to put that same amount of effort maybe it’s I don’t know but there are challenges and regards to working with it there’s it’s working on a gravity type of situation so if one color is down lower than the other there’s going to be a different flow and as it’s being used it will change right so you’ll have to adjust to that change that sure seems like something that people would want to

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get into I mean it makes their whole as you said if you’re an interpreter you have a single color it sure would be nice to have your old palette right there it’s like when we watch the new it I keep going back to the computer Apple’s new Apple pencil will you tap it to be able to change functions on the fly rather than having to go and set up sing on your physical world of airbrushing right what an amazing tool um this is available through your website how do people saw on my website I’m the only

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one that actually sells it mice and it’s under the name of prism airbrush palette prism prism airbrush palette right that’s it very exciting to me that’s very exciting that’s a very exciting adventure and is it comfortably affordable to Paris or its $97 oh it’s comfortably yeah okay and as I say it adapts to the majority of existing airbrushes is this something that as you’re learning airbrush that would be in wonderful tool it would be learned I would think that would be the best way

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way the level of interest and involvement is as your learner cancer learning wall and so it’s almost like every machine should have one of these with them I would hope I would think no I would want it can change the world can change the world yeah you know the world of an airbrush artist mm-hmm that’s a whole other skill you’ve been what will you do these murals were you doing them all in everybody I have even the largest one and actually I made it so that when I did with all so I created

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a backpack for the large murals yes that contained ports and pints of the colors and it actually will adapt to a large spray gun if you want to talk about changing of colors Bam Bam Bam Bam it’s so fast you can’t even keep up with it well that’s fantastic yeah well you know I’m there’s a whole I guess the the market will whether they say if you build it they will come if they see it they will come so we hope that people can get a chance to explore Prizm airbrush palette and is

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it by itself found findable on them actually might be I don’t know some sure words maybe prison airbrush balance right I think it would be actually and if not I’ve never checked it now on my webpage it will be talking and we’ll say something I think it says some air start or air pal on one of the little write one of the links I’m going through up on the top so have you did you learn the internet stuff at school no you know that stuff before a lot of it yeah I don’t just started picking up when I

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first came here now and this came to Hawaii right and started just playing with it learning what every could but you know part of the reason why did want to go to school of course is to expand my awareness of all of the different programs as they were talking about that are being an available you know and how to proceed in regards to marketing and I’m getting is the one piece at the college I they have marketing but they still think old-style I’m still looking to see them that’s what I’m curious about that I looking I

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want to say desperately they offer it an adventure as an pay course but in the regular curriculum I didn’t see anything that showed the ins and outs on the internet marketing side well I thought that was part of what the creative media program was all I’m hoping to see it because I’m that’s what when I was talking to who was the name of the Brian right he was showing me all of the new things he was wanting to present– so it’s coming so yeah now like you had said it was just this last year that

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this program was even existing well you know it’s like I told you I was sort of here at the front I was hoping for this program right in all these five years so we’ll see whether maybe I’m gonna have to come over to your house to learn how to be because it’s nice that they’re there getting to that possess the most well that is the meat of the whole thing and that was what it was Brian convinced me in regards to and saying you know we’re gonna be showing you how to present yourself the tools

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the processes and how to even get getting things into the action as for going through school sounds like they Urantia both thought and there we go that said yep that’s where I’m going go ahead and I also do the singer kind of program there the creative media program yeah I hope all of you are gonna go explore unite of the University of Hawaii Maui college federal financial aid programs and it began just thrilled to know that these kind of programs exist and available for all of us I will

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Express one thing in regards to that yeah go to the counselor first they will walk you through so that it will be easy for you to apply and get the things started you see that means that there’s already enrolled for you to walk on I was there carving a road yeah you know I can’t almost believe it but we have only a minute left it’s not amazing no oh we’ve done through a lot you know we have but you know I hope that you’ll come back I hope you’ll do I’m gonna do a TV thing so we’re gonna have more room

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to show some more of your stuff cool and get to explore Sevan so Matt’s not only a wonderful guy thank you for being here at the show well I appreciate being a pleasure pleasure you wouldn’t that about all 30 seconds what do you think you want to say 20 seconds why would you like to say to these guys besides hello maybe that’s it Father’s love God is love that’s a great thing to say see that boy out all down thank you all for joining us Sevan Thometz here with Jason Schwartz on the neutral zone check

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us out at Maui neutral zone comm check all of our shows out check all these people out and bringing wonderful people and more coming next week and we’ll see you soon and thank you for joining us [Music]