SHARAN LEVINE- “From Insanity to Sanity and Beyond: Tales From The Heart”

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Published on 03/08/1997 by Jason Schwartz

MAMA PRESENTS… Jason Schwartz sits with Maui poet and interesting character, SHARAN LEVINE.   Sharan Levine was born Harvey Levine. He shares his story of a journey through marriage and children to the Garment Center in New York, poetry, a slew of insane asylums… and then Maui.  Sharan has passed away, but his memory and his book of poetry live on.  So do a jewelry design that transforms from a cross to a heart of love… powerful design from a Jewish kid from New York!  A wonderful and funny, intense man.- 1997

Summary & Transcript

Person smiling at Maui Neutral Zone community event, promoting wellness and social connection.

[00:28 → 04:53]
Introduction to Sharan Levine and His Work
The video opens with a musical introduction transitioning into a discussion about a rare edition of a book authored by Sharan Levine. The rare edition is notable because it is owned by a friend, not Sharan himself, emphasizing its scarcity. The book, titled From Insanity to Sanity and Beyond: Tales From The Heart, is a collection of poetry and short narratives that chronicle Sharan’s extraordinary life journey. This journey includes struggles with compulsive gambling, drug abuse, and prolonged mental health institutionalization lasting seven and a half years. His poetry is described as sometimes sad, sometimes humorous, but always authentic and compelling, offering profound insights into the human condition and the struggle of the human spirit. The book presents his transformation from insanity to sanity and beyond, inspiring others to find their own path to peace and happiness.

  • [05:34 → 09:48]
    Maui neutral zone health and safety sign during COVID-19 pandemic.Financial Struggles and Friendship with Jules
    Sharan recounts a personal story involving a $2,000 loan from his longtime friend Jules. Despite promises to repay within three weeks, Sharan’s circumstances became dire, making repayment impossible on schedule. To show good faith, he sent Jules incremental payments starting with a penny, followed by $10, $20, and small amounts with humorous notes encouraging Jules to enjoy meals on him. Jules is described as a very successful and legitimate money lender who never lost money on loans due to securing collateral. Despite Sharan’s failure to repay promptly, Jules understood the situation but was upset by the delay. This story reveals Sharan’s integrity, humility, and the strength of their friendship despite financial hardships.

  • Maui Neutral Zone, community center for peaceful coexistence and LGBTQ+ support in Maui, Hawaii.[09:48 → 12:33]
    Life in Great Neck and Work Commute
    Sharan describes living in Great Neck, New York, highlighting the convenience of a 23-minute express train into New York City, which allowed him to commute efficiently for work. He humorously recalls experiences with parking tickets and the daily rhythm of his work-life balance. This segment illustrates a more stable period in his life before his mental health challenges escalated.

  • [12:33 → 17:42]
    Interview Atmosphere and Philosophical Reflections on Life
    The interview setting is informal and intimate, with Sharan and the interviewer sharing light moments and laughter. Sharan reflects on approaching his 60th birthday and his life perspectives. He discusses the concept of “beyond sanity,” explaining it as achieving balance and perfection, which he defines as a state free from attachment to desires. He shares a story of a seven-year-old boy who told him “perfect,” capturing the essence of his philosophy that true perfection lies in acceptance and presence rather than pursuit. Sharan suggests societal pressures to constantly do and achieve create stress, whereas letting go can bring profound relaxation and peace.

  • Maui Neutral Zone environmental awareness booklet on conservation and sustainability.[17:42 → 22:35]
    Poetry and Creative Expression
    Sharan reads and discusses his poetry, emphasizing that his work emerged after his release from mental institutions. He notes that writing was a new experience for him, as he never attended high school or had prior practice in writing. His poems are intertwined with narratives that together tell the story of his recovery and awakening. He shares a humorous poem about a wealthy friend named Bob who refuses to lend him money, highlighting Sharan’s lighthearted approach to serious themes. The poetry serves both as catharsis and as a medium to communicate his journey and insights.

  • [22:35 → 30:26]
    Mental Health Journey and Self-Healing Through Poetry
    Sharan details how his writing began immediately after leaving the mental institution, marking a turning point in his healing. He explains that he was repeatedly institutionalized by others due to life’s overwhelming challenges, not by choice. Writing poetry became a tool for self-understanding and recovery. He reflects on the paradox of success and dissatisfaction, explaining how his earlier business success in the garment industry eventually left him unfulfilled, prompting withdrawal and a search for deeper meaning.

  • Maui neutral zone man holding a small box, promoting peace and safety in Maui.[30:26 → 32:55]
    Garment Industry Background
    Before his mental health struggles, Sharan worked in New York’s garment center as a sales representative, selling children’s wear without managing inventory. He describes the business as relatively easy and lucrative, with higher-than-average commission rates (18-19%). Over the years, he reduced his working hours significantly, taking long breaks and eventually losing desire to continue in the business despite financial success.

  • Maui Neutral Zone scenic location with serene ocean views and lush surroundings.[32:55 → 37:23]
    Poetry Reading and Cultural References
    The interview touches on Sharan’s identity as a poet, highlighting his nickname “Fire Island Legend” due to his poetry being published in a local newspaper. He reads a powerful poem titled “Strip Naked,” which vividly describes his experience entering a hospital stripped of possessions but retaining his essential selfhood. The segment reveals the emotional depth and raw honesty of his writing. He also shares reflections on family, simple joys, and the healing power of creative expression.

  • [37:23 → 42:13]
    The Heartlight Pin and Its Symbolism
    A key artifact discussed is the     Heartlight Pin, a handcrafted, fire-baked cloisonné pin with 24-karat gold filling that opens in seven phases symbolizing spiritual awakening and divine presence (“God is in my heart”). The pin was inspired by a chance meeting with Howard Rose, who designed it. Sharan’s company, Heartlight Incorporated, was created to distribute the pin and its message worldwide. The book’s structure mirrors the pin’s seven phases, with each chapter corresponding to a phase of spiritual and personal growth. The pin and book together symbolize Sharan’s journey from hardship to enlightenment and serve as tools to spread messages of hope and love.

Feature Details
Pin Material Fire-baked cloisonné, 24-karat gold filled
Design Opens in seven phases representing spiritual growth
Message “God is in my heart”
Company Heartlight Incorporated
Book Structure Seven chapters matching the pin’s seven phases
Purpose Spread message of love, healing, and spiritual awakening

  • [42:13 → 45:37]
    Sales Philosophy and Communication Skills
    Sharan shares lessons from his sales career, emphasizing the importance of listening over speaking. He recounts a story where listening attentively to a client’s interest in fishing – despite knowing nothing about it – led to a large order. This insight translates into interpersonal communication wisdom, suggesting that effective listening is key in both sales and life interactions. The segment reinforces Sharan’s humility and adaptability.

  • [45:37 → 48:20]
    Maui Neutral Zone entrance signage with COVID-19 safety measures and social distancing guidelines.Closing Remarks and Endorsement of the Book
    The interview concludes with strong encouragement to acquire Sharan’s book, emphasizing its uniqueness and rarity. Sharan humorously mentions hunting garage sales to find copies, underscoring the book’s limited availability. The closing includes a reading of another poem, “Dear Beloveds,” which lists simple, wholesome foods and ends with a promise of never going hungry, symbolizing hope and sustenance beyond physical needs. The overall tone is celebratory of Sharan’s resilience and artistic contribution.

  • [48:20 → 50:27]
    Final Musical and Environmental Message
    The video ends with a musical piece followed by a brief environmental call to action about the invasive     miconia plant threatening native ecosystems in Hawaii. Viewers are urged to help eradicate this destructive species to protect the local environment. This closing note ties human struggle and healing to broader ecological concerns, emphasizing interconnectedness.

Key Insights and Themes

  • Transformation through adversity: Sharan’s life story exemplifies overcoming addiction, mental health struggles, and societal expectations to find peace and spiritual balance.

  • Healing through creative expression: Poetry and storytelling were vital in his recovery and self-understanding.

  • Spiritual symbolism: The Heartlight Pin and the seven-phase book structure represent stages of spiritual awakening and personal growth.

  • Value of relationships: Friends like Jules represent both support and challenge, reflecting real human connections.

  • Listening as a skill: Effective communication is more about listening than talking, a lesson applicable in sales and life.

  • Simplicity and presence: Letting go of attachment to desire leads to a state Sharan calls “beyond sanity,” characterized by acceptance and inner peace.

  • Rarity and value: The book and pin are rare, treasured items with personal and symbolic significance.

  • Environmental stewardship: The video ends by connecting personal healing to the health of the planet, urging action to protect native plants.

Summary

This video presents a deep and intimate portrait of Sharan Levine, a man who has traveled a remarkable path from despair and mental illness to healing, creativity, and spiritual awakening. Through candid storytelling and poetry, he shares his struggles with addiction and institutionalization, his career in the garment industry, and the importance of friendship and integrity. Central to his narrative is the Heartlight Pin, a symbolic artifact representing spiritual growth and the message “God is in my heart,” which is intricately connected to the structure of his book.

Sharan’s reflections on life emphasize the power of letting go of desire, the practice of presence, and the role of listening in communication. The poetry he wrote serves as both personal therapy and a gift to readers, encouraging resilience and hope. The video concludes with a call to environmental action, linking personal and planetary healing.

Overall, the content offers a compelling and heartfelt exploration of overcoming adversity through art, spirituality, and human connection, making Sharan Levine’s story both unique and universally inspiring.

Transcript

0:28
 how long ago is this written 92 1992 and it’s a rare Edition isn’t it rare a rare Edition I think so it is a rare Edition it happens to be my friend’s book how’s that I don’t have a copy of my own that makes it rare although I I have records like that and stuff see the inside see his name is

 

03:27
Chip so I wrote de chip you can take the country way out of the country but you can’t take New York out of the New Yorker there we are with love from Heart to Heart shiron great friend that’s terrific so he was on Maui for about 12 years yeah yeah and now in New York City and Woodstock so uh you know I think would be a great thing why don’t we go sit over near the fire come here for a second okay this collection of poetry and short narrative by Chiron line recounts his remarkable Journey from rags to richness

 

04:11
compulsive gambling to drug abuse and eventually Insanity chiron’s poetry sometimes sad sometimes funny always real and compelling touches the very heart of life itself with his simple truths and penetrating insights into to The Human Condition chiron’s words illuminate the struggle of the human Spirit to free itself of worldly success so that he may discover true happiness and peace by sharing with us his own difficult Journey shiron not only offers us a look at a man who spent seven one and one

 

04:53
half years in mental institutions and survived to gain the profound understanding of himself self and his place in this world but also gives us strength to seek the path with heart in our own lives wherever it may take us from Insanity to sanity and Beyond Tales From The Heart by shiron LaVine this is a real treat for us we’re happy to bring shiron to you here on Dream Makers Mama presents you know those guys that’s you’re used to this well you know you know after a while you say piece of

 

05:34
I’m the camera guy and I’m in it I I hope it’s good soon they’ll pay you soon they’ll pay me well that’s why this is the end of an era and the beginning of a new era why don’t we set up and we’ll have a conversation Aloha $2,000 right so he said to me and uh he asked me what I’m going to pay him back so I told him in three weeks when I get home that’s what you told me and uh unfortunately things got more hectic and I could and I had to take the the rest of the money I had to to survive

 

06:13
right and what happened was when I got to New York I I couldn’t pay him back for $1,500 so he understood no he didn’t understand he said to me that I’m a man of my word when I say I’m going to pay somebody you pay them and you’re not paying me the $1,500 you owe me I said Jules you know me for many many years I’ve never not lived up to my word however this was extenda circumstances the money was spent I don’t have the money to pay you and I will pay you and he got very angry

 

06:49
at me anyway what I did was I went to the post office and I made out of one penny money on one penny yeah for one C and I sent it to him and I said at least I’m making my first payment did he like that well I I’m sure he might have left but but I don’t know if you you didn’t get you didn’t receive the uh Clause the next week I sent him a $10 money order and I said at least I’m doing better okay and the next week I sent him a $20 money order and I said things are improving he loved this and then I sent

 

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him $10 I told him to have breakfast a good breakfast on me and then I sent him $10 in about September and I said I want you to buy yourself a pastrami sandwich and a diet soda a celerate you know the diet soda of course yeah yeah and leave a nice tip and if you have any change left over please call me that’s where I am with my friend Jules now I want you to know my friend Jules I know him since he’s six oh and he paid his money into many millions and millions of dollars renting apartments and then

 

08:26
buying co-ops and converting them to sell oh and lending and a money lender a legitimate money lender of course and he never lost a penny lending money because whatever he gave to the the account he had in collateral back and more so it was never a loss and that’s jwes he has so obviously when he gave the money to you he knew he had real collateral he had you yeah and I disappointed him no no no know he has real collateral cuz he never makes a loan without taking first so he has something of yours go

 

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ask him for it well that’s Jules I just want you know Jules has a rollsroyce in his driveway a Ferrari in his driveway a Jaguar my old mercedesbenz 450 SL I I had to give him when I dropped out because I couldn’t keep the p and um he has another car I don’t know do they all fit at his house yeah I mean where’s his house on the island somewhere uh Rosland New York I used to live in Rosland yeah yeah New Height park right there yeah it’s close I lived in great I know we were neighbors

 

09:48
Manasses Hills next town is that where you did business and stuff New York City H you know what was great about Great Neck there was a 23 minute train yeah that went from Great Neck Express right into the city right okay 23 minutes right the the train station was 33rd and 7th Avenue my office was 34th between 6th and 7th uhhuh so I would drive my car every morning from my house and park it at at the train station get a five then come back at night and have a $ five ticket get in my car drive back home and

 

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I was in work from door to door in less than 30 minutes good so for that $5 you had a uh a time saer a good time well at first they weren’t ticketing and then they ticketed me and then they started to double ticket double ticket yeah expire and then you you can get another ticket if you oh yeah I’ve seen get two tickets two in one day tickets on them before oh because it’s an hour meter or whatever the heck it is or you know if they haven’t tow you away by then that’s it who knows what the sound

 

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is like but we speak up tradition okay sing to that later okay you should look in the camera they told me as you speak to you and look in the camera hi we didn’t put a microphone here we thought a little bit of natural we’re sitting here we traveled all over the island to find the spot that would have be cool refreshing and comfortable when you speak with the King you come to the King’s Castle today we created a rainstorm so that we would be able to do this intimately here in the house right before Kaneka wow Kaneka is

 

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when the 19th is it the 19th I’m not sure it my birthday is the 20th oh you’re in perfect stride I’ll be 60 no yeah 60 60 years old it seems like just yesterday you know we were going through all the things in our life changing changing uh growing I’m going check the camera just to see how it’s doing you see we have this is a very small production company I’m here with you and I’m up there watch you’re going to be a success Jas oh I see that I I know you’re going to do well well

 

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we’re proving it we’re proving it right now the proof is in the eating proof is in the pudding that’s what they told me not in the eating but the eating of the pudding you see what’s most important is you say you getting to your birthday you’re 60 the 60 that you’ve spent you know when your book you have your book handy it was put it over here have you seen this book we showed it to you earlier we’re going to look at it again here’s the book from Insanity to sanity and Beyond Tales From The Heart

 

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by shiron LaVine now now you smile now I see you get everybody laughing that’s what makes you a good talk show host because you just just relax when they’re with you oh thank you you know all I hope to do is create an environment here that’s natural where you feel comfortable we have three of us in the room this guy has a very big nose and he listens like real hard he doesn’t talk much and if we have someone behind there they can move in and out but the real juice of the lemon is right here it’s right here and

 

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if we’re here the proof of no that’s not pudding is not always good you have to eat it and if you eat it what if you like chocolate pudding we have chocolate pudding we could do a little swirl Ursula’s daughter asked me what kind of cake I like for my birthday what kind of cake do you like I I couldn’t think of any cakes that I like because I like them all but then the realization said it apple pie homemade with vanilla ice cream that’s good it’s good but you didn’t have any chocolate chocolate pudding too

 

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well that’ll be the proof that’s right I thought it was 86 proof 86 proof is that in here this is 86 proof is this a limited edition now if you don’t have one it’s that limited very limited I hope you know I just wrote my daughter yesterday do you know that my book is in the Raj Nish Puna ashram it is in his Library they asked me if they could put it in and uh I was very thrilled because he had rajnish has the rarest one of the rarest libraries in the world very old books and for me to be in his library

 

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was most exciting for me I’m sure it was and you know uh you’ve been a student like you talk about or you don’t talk about but was talked about here in the back where you have gone beyond sanity I don’t know what that means it’s great to have definition no the definition of non-de from Insanity to sanity and beyond that means you know what balance is I want to I would like to share a story with you sure please about a year ago I was in mowell and I saw this little boy who was seven who I hadn’t

 

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seen in a year and I asked him how how he was doing and he said to me perfect I said perfect way out and that that’s the best and then I continued to walk to Rodeo General and the woman at the cashier said to me shiron I just read your book and what does beyond mean and I said you know I never really knew what beyond me except for the fact that a little boy just told me everything is perfect and that is what I really think is beyond everything is perfect how can you speak after that I guess I’m beyond is that like way

 

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out different sometimes it doesn’t feel perfect but it is perfect and then I go back to the perfect so what is perfection everyone’s Perfection is their own Perfection or It All Is One Perfection is there definition or no definition I think when the the desire is Dro and you’re not attached to the desire then what’s the problem desires drop and you’re not attached to desire that is perfect then whatever comes is is just beautiful but sometimes the mind takes us to the attachment and is this world based on

 

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that I think a lot of our world is based on that know our society that drives forward based on projections instead of just being that’s it’s a different world that’s why definitions are so challenging CU like here’s may I read one of your poems I’m just going to pick one randomly I just happened to open is that a good one to read money I like them all myself I knew you did I always think which one is the best I’m going to take just a moment and move the curtain back to get a little more light on us I feel

 

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a smile you feel a what you see a feel like a smile smile oh yeah oh that’s a good one how many views you do J how many what thousands hundreds no no not at all actually fact is I don’t do many of these fact isan I don’t do many of these I have done many interviews different people different circumstances but inhouse this kind of level of just relaxation your first one it got to start somewhere Jay that’s what I always say El said to me you know I I’ve made this rule I’m not going to do any more

 

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shows unless they serve me I’ve been getting all kinds of things out there haven’t been paid so be it it’s public television but the more visible I’ve gotten the least the less visible that I do mortgages and I do solar and that I you know the things that help me sustain so I I figured it’s time for me to use my Celebrity Status the green and all the rest of this to have people understand who and what I am and only do shows about me so I’m going to be singing and dancing what do you think

 

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this show could do for you Jason nothing you know this is my chance to come on and promote me what do you mean nothing what you mean the show with you well no I think that the show when I sit here with you this is this is an outake you’ll find you know the control of the S um the show with you gives me a feeling like I’ve delivered to Maui uh a look at somebody who has gone through an experience and come to a point where he doesn’t need to to acquire he doesn’t need to uh prove anything it’s just being and you’re wi

 

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and your style something that I’ve always appreciated and I’d like to share that and this book I remember when I when nickel andand gave me his copy and I read that still want his book you never gave him his book back he never gave him the book he told me you took the book but I didn’t tell him you took the book and gave it to me so he wants the book from you well he’ll get it oh he’ll get it all right look at it he always gets it some better late than ever yeah well he like sharing this book

 

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money this by the way this is another extremely rich friend are you have oh I have rich friends he has rich friends you do but that’s what life is you know you don’t judge them do you think less of them because they have money I used to yell at them for acquiring all of this money not giving it to me I see but now had they given it to you would you felt differently about them well sometimes they do but this this is a funny poem read listen I have a good friend named Bob who has a huge amount of money who was

 

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also very funny whenever I asked him for money he would hang up on me I decided that this was wasting my money so I started to use the word boop boop boop now he does not hang up on me so it does not cost me money but he still won’t give me any money all right it was funny at the moment you know what’s so funny you have so many poems here are these numbered the numbers just come randomly chap there’s an index that has the content of oh look at this wow how did these get accumulated um when I came out of the

 

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mental institution I I started to write the the first poem the day I got out ah so when you got out you wrote and then I wrote in New York City about half of them that are in this book and when I got to Maui I did the other the other portion and then I decided to put a story in in between the poems so the story and then poems coinciding with each chapter right and then I had the pin the heartlight pin which um I also uh put into the book the opening of God is in my heart so when you came through your uh

 

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process your years of uh institutionalism what was the door opening what opened that door that said put me in or took me out I think that I think that took you out what put you in is what all of us face a struggle of dayto day I’m sure of uh challenges that were too much and someone thought they’d help you and so they put you in right you don’t put yourself in do you uh no I I didn’t put myself in right so they kept putting me in they kept putting you in Okay so I didn’t want to when you got out that’s

 

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the interesting proof when I got out when I got out Jason this is the first poem I wrote might take a moment we have a moment we have all the time we want you remember those times like they were yesterday or out of your mind mostly I feel like it was U sometimes ages ago and sometimes just yesterday do you have any aspirations or because you live life moment to moment aspirations are just uh breath to breath right well I I I felt like desires of of writing another book and then I just read two unbelievable

 

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books about two people Awakening and I felt after I read these two books that I didn’t have to write another book for myself because it was already said and not that I have to you know could write it differently the the way they these books were expressed was everything that I felt so it was like dropped I see knowing I don’t have to do anything I think the problem in our lifetime is that we all think we have to do something and if there’s nothing to do it’s very relaxing the burden is off how would our

 

25:48
society function it wouldn’t I don’t really know but um yeah but it’s a different experience of living than is the pressures that are put on us do something be something you know study practice is is a definite um it’s a hindrance it doesn’t let us be relaxed so not having to do something takes the weight off and becomes a very relaxing feeling for me anyway that’s that’s been my uh so now that you don’t have to write another book you’re feel more relaxed yeah because there’s nothing

 

26:28
really to say is already said in these two books may I read another one Cosmic choosing Christian choosing Cosmic and Christian Christian and Jewish choosing nevertheless oh boy oh boy oh boy living life that’s fun living through your son giving him the toys living the joys what more can a dad want than being with his son sharing his being it’s quite a good experience that’s suddenly appreciating different aspects of your life simple things in life that have so much richness that uh hard to explain I know you explain it

 

27:27
so few words you know I wonder how many people appreciate poetry this one of my favorite strip naked do you want to read it no you don’t want to read it I’ll read it you can oh okay you know it is funny we’ve had a few poets on our show now who would think that we were actually poets corner but we’ve had a a great lady named Ela Sterling who’s 90 years old decided she wanted to start writing and you like her and then we had her daughter so we do family things I po stripped naked huh I was I was in Fire

 

28:14
Island I put some poems in the newspaper so they called me the Fire Island Legend the Fire Island Legend and I always wanted to be a legend in Fire Island that could be a challenge okay do you know where Fire Island is you think they know where Fire Island is um probably not it’s uh it’s an island off Long Island it’s a half hour ferry ride and it’s very beautiful and once you get there you’re you’re in bicycles and things bicycle no cars no car so it’s a very special place all right strip

 

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naked opening up my eyes for the first time in two years where am I pouting Beth Israel Hospital they say putting on my clothes that’s all I have shirt pants socks and sneakers let me out I shout I don’t belong here I pout and Shout trying to break out without a home to go to they take my only possessions all my clothes I didn’t have any ID shiny coins or crumpled bills tooth brush comb or razor blade stripped naked to the core the only thing I know I am Harvey Chiron LaVine with a mind to think ey to see

 

29:40
eyes to see a nose to breathe and a heart to feel that’s powerful just words of just words I guess I do my drama thing that’s a powerful I like them you know when I started to write some of these poems when I wrote them and I then I looked at what I had written I didn’t know how they were written it was like an energy oh yeah because um I never wrote anything in my whole life I never went to high school so I never had did a book report or turn paper you know so I never wrote and this was the first time I had ever

 

30:26
written anything what were you doing when you were quote before your experience in the institutions you were in the Garment Center in the Garment Center in New York wow this Maui sort of like the gar Center of Hawaii not quite the no gar you know people in New York City in the gar Center they don’t look at you they they walked with their heads down they walk with the heads cuz they’re looking at your pants they always are looking at your pants lions are [Laughter] uh that was an experience you know uh

 

31:03
Los Angeles has its own garment Center which isn’t quite as intense I were you manufacturing or were you my last business was sales repping which was a very easy business because we just all we had to do was sell the manufacturer’s product to the retailer right and we were in between you know so we had not as much responsibility as far as um buying the P Goods keeping the you know the uh stock and inventory and payables it was kind of like a small uh very easy business right there was no uh inventory no

 

31:41
inventory uh and instead of working on the usual six or s% we used to work on 18 or 19% 18 or 19 is better than six or seven you know what I mean so we had to do less value and then I started to work the last seven eight years of being business I started to work about 10 or 12 hours a week I wasn’t working on Friday I started not to work on Monday and Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday I would come in to work have lunch with the buyers and go home so I and I didn’t work in December I never worked in July so you got I took

 

32:20
long weekends and big weekends and weeks so things were so successful you decided to stay home things got so successful that I I couldn’t do it anymore you know it the money was coming in the words couldn’t come out I don’t know if you could understand that that I just didn’t ever want to sell another children’s wear garment in my life you know Jerry akiman probably from Grants WT grants they went out of business oh I know well they had a he’s passed on he was a nice man my father was at WT

 

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grants and I remember the children’s wear children where buer friend of the family was Jerry aan these two kids are actually at Warner Brothers and Disney right now um but um so you were there selling him children’s we no I I never sold WT Grand children’s I would have liked to oh well you should have known Jerry he was a good I should have known you you would have introduced me to Jerry I would have introduced you see this continuity out talk can we get a into this she’s she’s not a foreigner she’s

 

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she’s legal they recognize they certified you they didn’t certify me so should I read another one this is a good conversation this is not the common Maui television no this is this is impromptu is that what this is impromptu yeah it’s also Hau it’s Hau know Hau is the Japanese Masters look at that pen your pen that’s my pen yeah we should bring the pen in someone’s I think someone I think I’m not sure maybe giving me uh quite a substantial amount of money because they

 

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use the to do the hotl pin the hotl pin is so beautiful let me bring it in May I sure excuse me I’ll be right back I love that in that F don’t you to the camera hello this is the original pin this is the let me see it closely if you’d be so kind put it down near the box I’ll come in in Focus this is fire baked claz uhhuh 24 karat gold filled right and this is the the packaging I see what is it it’s a hard pin uhhuh that opens up in seven phases to God and how that’s done is we

 

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now take the the gift box right and we take the nice suede box that it comes in and we have this card can you see that let me see if I can focus here because in seven phases you will see the pin opening up I think we got it as clear as I’m pretty close so maybe that’s the challenge okay the pin opens up right visually uhhuh and in seven phases it opens up to God I have’t God is in my heart yeah hot my jacket I should put my jacket on just to look at it like when it’s actually in

 

35:51
use this one’s been in use for like what two years yeah see there are three pens Ursula has the pin in a in a shaded Mo red uh this is in all red right you see this yeah and then this is a little larger pin so whatever the customer prefers they could have I I’m partial to the first one Ursula likes that color and some people like the little larer heart this one is real red this is more Pinky and then the saying that I had the put into the card is Love Too Close I can’t see love love

 

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is thought in the mind uhh love comes from the heart love is the burning fire of Silence so you know what my friend when I wrote this particular saying you know what he put I put it on the refrigerator you know what he’s he wrote on the on the on the saying so why don’t you shut up down B down what a loving friend you have good friends he’s he’s a very kind man of course anyway he’s from um he’s from uh Vietnam and uh thank you for sharing that with us okay three two one you

 

37:23
know you showed me that heart pin the first thing in in the book is the heart pin huh in 1980 should I I now I’m reading like an Englishman the hard pin why is that number one cuz it’s been in your mind since then huh wow in 1983 I was wandering the neighborhoods of Great Neck New York where I lived and I came across a storefront office I was curious wondering what kind of business it was I went inside immediately upon entering I Came Upon a former employer I had not seen in 18 years we spoke about old times for a

 

38:05
while then he told me he was selling pins to schools colleges and universities throughout the country the next day he called me to ask if I’d like to meet the owner of his company a man named Howard Rose Howard showed me the pen you see attached to and reproduced in this book same pen he showed it to you well it it’s the reason the book is in seven chapters is each chapter opens up another phase of the book of the pen see oh I see and so each like the card like the card see each phase opens

 

38:50
up so this book is really like the handbook to the pen yeah exactly see that’s was to understand see and here’s the sixth phase and the reason the book is in seven chapters it it it opens up fully fully ecstasy Freedom so they have titles for each each one yeah so anyway this is about the pen if you want it’s I I thought it was kind of a nice message to uh okay to give out so you met Howard and he had the pin the original pin Howard came up with the idea for this pin and designed it

 

39:29
himself it’s a hard fired clo a pin which instantly impressed me everything about it was remarkable its size shape color texture and design you knew a lot about pins no okay how would asked be my advice about marketing this extraordinary pin Howard you’re in the pin business my sales and Merchandising experience was in the Garment industry I said see you you were hip like me you knew this was a new field for me give me some time to think about it I told him before long we started heartlight Incorporated choosing

 

40:11
as our company saying God is in my heart we had visions of sending this message across all continents by marketing the pin worldwide we initially made 200 pens and distributed them among family and friends Almost almost everyone enjoyed wearing the pen or else put it away in some special place there’s more a few months later I became ill and the company was disbanded after spending seven and a half years in institutions I set about on this challenging task of healing myself both physically and mentally I

 

40:51
began writing poetry I felt better each day after traveling the country for several months I decided to move to Maui Maui You’ been here all this time and there found a warm and nurturing environment in which to continue my healing process one day at Maui’s main airport it is the main okay I encountered a friend I had not seen in eight years the first thing he said was that he still had and wears the pin I had given him years earlier the next morning I awoke with the idea that I would publish my

 

41:31
poetry chronicling my journey from Insanity to sanity and Beyond and renew my vision of Distributing the pin worldwide spreading the message of God is in my heart to all people in all lands I managed the pin I I imagined the pin attached I imagined the pin attached to the front of my book of poetry I thought thought it would be wonderful to see someone wearing the pen in another town or country and give that person a smile or a hug I hope you enjoy reading my poetry and wearing this pen as much as I’ve

 

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enjoyed bringing them to you half of the profits from the sale of this book will go toward helping the less fortunate people of the world they need our support and love God is in our hearts with love shiron you should have been reading that did good I did good so let me see the pen again man this one of the original 100 you know what’s interesting about this he it has a wonderful feel whoever it’s nice it’s a little hot and there’s a little symbol in the middle and this opens up to say visually God yeah you

 

43:07
know I never knew till right now that the hot light pin was the thing that ties together the book M and ties together everything right most people miss it well most people like anything they need to see it and understand that thing what imagine for Valentine’s Day oh but I don’t do you realize you’re still the common sent the guy you can take the country out of s take the garage he’s still the G the game guy I’ll tell you what I’m going to you know remember that earlier where he said I

 

43:47
never want to sell again I never have and now here he is right back get this little box I want to share this story I’m I’m working with a fire showing him my product right and he interrupts me and he talks about fishing for about 45 minutes and I don’t say a word I just nod and listening and listening and after the conversation he says to me you know you know a lot about fishing I said thank you very much with that he gave me a very big order so I knew I knew I knew at that time it doesn’t matter

 

44:28
what you say it’s what you listen to listening is more important than speaking when you’re a Salesman a good listener is better than a good speaker what about a TV guy should I be a better listener yeah whatever whatever fits you know whatever works for you have I listen listening is more important than talking because the man said to me you know a lot about F I didn’t know anything about fishing see Bas wife based on what this guy told you I never fished well there was one guy who fished this Jesus Guy this is

 

45:06
the he didn’t he fish they said yeah he was the fisherman he was a fisherman son of a carpent but he hung out he hung out with the Fisher guys he liked hanging out you like yeah you hung out with fishermen yeah hung out with fishermen yeah if you hang out with fish you are a fish you know what they say if you’re hanging around with garbage you want garbage who said who said says that I said it oh remember who said it anyway the truth is we have had a terrific I’ve had a terrific time here with you tell

 

45:37
this to everybody I just Chiron LaVine if you see this book in bookstores grab it cuz it’s the only copy there and it’s a mistake grab it while you can you know what I will and if you see one of these pins I will buy this book back from anybody that’s a good buy it back how much $55 $5 and hurry I’m going to go all the garage sales now and see if I can run you know I found this in the garage sale once did you did you yeah did you buy it of course of course how much was it a dollar I got a discount a dollar see if

 

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you go to the right garage sales anyway I know it’s really a treasure read there Bel I don’t I don’t know why just read Bly love us you might like it as much are we going to close on this we might close on this cuz we have okay dear beloveds you’ll find this on page 29 that’s a good page please share your golden eggs pink grapefruit juice brown bread blueberries black beans white rice yellow bananas red apples green lettuce orange melon lemonade and after you do all this for

 

46:51
me I promise you I will never go hungry good like true classic why is it called dear beloveds I don’t know just because I love these here’s a short one leaving you you felt bad because I left you think of how I felt leaving you nothing special no but very special that was section four why now see did you group these in a reason no some days are great damn great in fact other days hell and More Hell what happened where’s the magic that money was supposed to buy hell where’s the money sure I never much like playing by

 

47:44
the rules but hey who changed the rules when I was in the other room toting a line or sleeping it off or feeling like my streak of luck would never end and I would own the track or casino before the day was over I must have got off track somewhere along the line that’s funny it is funny you’re going to really appreciate this book like I say if you see this book buy it Aloha we’re here with shiron LaVine on Dream Makers Mama presents this has been a great pleasure shiron thank you thank you may we do it again

 

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sure hello sty [Music] on let me down sty don’t let me down sty let me down there is sunshine in your heart it’s been with you from the St lift your head [Music] heav again don’t St me now let me down St don’t let me down don’t let me Downy don’t let me down out your hand and each other your mother your father your sister and brother there is Love in This pick yourself up and get on on your feet don’t St me nowy Downy Downy Downy sty up country sty sty stying Han styling

 

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