Jason shares with Green Party 2020 POTUS Candidate Susan Buchser-Lochocki. She is based in Switzerland and adds her progressive Green & Non-Green ideas. . Susan has many position videos on Facebook as well as Twitter, Facebook & Instagram.
Summary & Transcript Below…
[00:00 → 06:37] Susan Buchser-Lochocki is a Green Party candidate running for President of the United States in a unique campaign conducted largely from Switzerland amid the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite geographical challenges, she finds the online format beneficial for reaching people and reducing pollution from travel.
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[06:37 → 12:56] Susan’s background includes being born on a US Air Force base in California, living in Guam and New York, and moving to Switzerland after marrying a Swiss banker. Her life experiences include artistic pursuits, financial industry work, and personal family challenges, including her daughter’s battle with leukemia.
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[12:56 → 20:38] Her motivation for running stems from her artistic background, particularly inspired by the Dada movement’s ideals of freedom of speech, expression, and peaceful protest. She uses art projects like “smile clouds” to promote peace and unity across religious and cultural divides. She sees the presidency as a platform to amplify her message of peace and connection.
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[20:38 → 29:55] Susan identifies with the Green Party’s platform but incorporates her own variations. She stresses the importance of community service and transforming societal roles, advocating for mandatory community participation programs akin to “upcycling” the military into broader community service roles. She supports legalizing drugs and prostitution and restructuring policing to reduce criminalization and racial disparities.
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[29:55 → 38:32] She proposes a radical economic restructuring: eliminating money altogether to create equality and reduce social tension. Susan argues for retraining and redeploying unemployed workers into community-beneficial jobs as part of a transition away from money-based economics. She acknowledges challenges in acceptance but views this as a necessary shift given current systemic failures.
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[38:32 → 47:15] During the pandemic, Susan’s family has been directly involved in frontline work (her daughter training as a nurse). She notes the differences between Swiss and American responses to COVID-19, emphasizing Switzerland’s effective compliance with health guidelines. She also highlights her ongoing artistic and political communication through daily YouTube videos and online forums.
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[47:15 → 53:09] Susan actively campaigns for women’s rights, including the historic suffragette movement, and advocates for paying mothers for childcare as a form of recognizing unpaid labor critical to society. She also supports legalizing prostitution and elevating the status and rights of women in all facets of life.
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[53:09 → 56:00] She emphasizes the need to address Native American issues, pledging to support these communities extensively if elected president. Her campaign is grounded in improving quality of life, human potential, and promoting peace both domestically and globally.
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Key Conclusions
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[02:19 → 06:37] Virtual campaigning during the pandemic offers unexpected advantages, including broader outreach and ecological benefits, suggesting a potential new model for political campaigns.
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[14:07 → 20:38] Artistic expression and social activism can be powerful vehicles for political engagement and can
help introduce unconventional ideas into the political discourse, such as promoting peace through art.
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[26:04 → 31:23] The current US criminal justice system is deeply flawed, disproportionately affecting minorities, and requires fundamental reform including decriminalization of certain activities and rethinking the role of policing.
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[32:00 → 42:53] Radical systemic change, such as eliminating money, though controversial, may be necessary to address economic inequalities and social unrest, signaling a departure from traditional political platforms toward transformative policies.
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[44:18 → 46:43] Recognizing and compensating unpaid labor, especially motherhood, is essential for gender equality and social stability, highlighting the need for policies that support family units financially and socially.
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[49:49 → 50:26] The Green Party offers a platform for revolutionary lifestyle changes that prioritize quality of life and human potential, though the challenge remains to gain sufficient exposure and political traction to implement these ideas.
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[53:46 → 56:00] Addressing indigenous issues is a critical and often neglected part of national policy that requires dedicated focus and resources in any progressive political agenda.
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Important Details
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[00:00 → 02:56] Susan’s campaign began in late 2019 with family approval being a key step before officially launching. She traveled extensively across 28 states to understand diverse American issues firsthand, meeting people from all socioeconomic backgrounds including Native American leaders.
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[04:03 → 05:59] Susan’s life in Switzerland is enriched by its international significance as a diplomatic hub, offering a unique vantage point on US foreign relations and global diplomacy.
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[09:53 → 12:56] Her career shifted from art to banking and securities due to economic necessity and lack of affordable healthcare in freelance artistic work, reflecting the economic pressures many artists face.
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[16:00 → 19:44] The “smile cloud” art project started as an interactive peace-building effort, documenting smiles to foster unity, with over a thousand smiles collected and ongoing. This project connects art, social engagement, and politics in her campaign.
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[21:57 → 23:21] Voting from abroad is problematic with outdated and insecure procedures, which Susan criticizes for potential tampering; she advocates for standardized and fully online voting systems for Americans overseas.
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[27:30 → 28:39] Susan’s vision for policing involves ending proactive enforcement tactics that criminalize minor offenses and instead focusing on responsive presence and community support functions.
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[29:55 → 31:23] She proposes mandatory community service programs for all citizens involving training and deployment in various civic roles, fostering responsibility and social cohesion similar to models used in countries like Israel.
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[35:24 → 37:24] Addressing unemployment caused by economic shifts and the COVID crisis involves retraining workers for meaningful jobs, emphasizing a system that values contribution over monetary gain.
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[41:43 → 42:53] Susan openly acknowledges that her platform is not for those wanting to maintain the status quo but for those ready for transformative change.
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[43:39 → 46:12] She highlights the economic and social cost of motherhood being unpaid labor, advocating for paid parental leave and societal recognition to prevent poverty and social instability among families.
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[47:15 → 49:05] Susan maintains an active presence on YouTube, sharing daily political opinions, inspirational messages, and detailed policy discussions to engage voters and build awareness.
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[51:56 → 53:09] The suffragette outfit and symbolism underscore her commitment to continuing the fight for women’s rights, including voting equality and broader social justice issues.
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[53:46 → 55:00] Her personal experiences and campaign priorities include a strong focus on supporting Native American communities, recognizing their systemic neglect and advocating for dedicated assistance.
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This comprehensive summary captures SusanSusan Buchser-Lochocki unique candidacy, blending her personal history, artistic activism, and radical political vision within the context of a challenging global pandemic and evolving social landscape.
Transcript
hi everyone I hope you see this unusual lighting situation for me this is the Maui neutral zone but I have a guest that is at 8 a.m. so we’re at 8 p.m. because she’s all the way over on the other side of the world we’re in Maui she’s in Switzerland Susan Buchser-Lochocki is that right you got it right she is a one of a number of candidates running in the Green Party for POTUS President of the United States and I must tell you if if I were gonna pick a year to run for president of the
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United States this would be the year because the ideas that are being presented by people like you Susan are the ones that really need to be heard so maybe the world will hear us and somehow through all this will kind of lose Donald Trump I don’t we can lose him but I’m how are you doing now how are you doing these days in Switzerland of all things how how do you find yourself in Switzerland yeah well I guess first I should say hello hi everybody Aloha and I lived for a little bit on Guam so I’m gonna say half a day I think
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that was the greeting that we had there and then from Switzerland we say good it seemed it to not so you know that so Swiss German it’s not high german it’s swiss german it’s a dialect and so gritty is like saying hello and then mid to not means together so I’m saying hello together well the fact that you’re running for president and that we’re in this Kovan time where everyone’s on lockdown and can’t travel I’m sure in your quest to get your information out it’s been a bit of a
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challenge maybe it’s not maybe you like doing all these things over this but I know a lot of people like to press the flesh how’s it been for you up to this campaign well I actually was in the United States so I started my campaign in November I actually started a little before that so testing the waters in in September because I was in the US then for a class reunion and some other things and and then we we had a Swiss Family join us I was there some time alone and then also some time with my
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family and we had a Swiss family join us and I showed them around or we showed them around New York City because they had never been to the US and so we were sort of tour guides but at the time I needed approval from my family that I could run for president so it was the testing waters period and but I was also you know letting people know that I was interested and then I had I came back to Switzerland and I finally got the OK for my family to do this and then I had to go back to the US to set up you know
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like a bank account and all sorts of things that I needed to do and so then I really started you know meeting people a little bit and then I came back because it was you know Christmas time and New Year’s and and then I had an art show going on at the American Woman’s Club here in Zurich that I needed to attend and my mom was there’s a lot of Americans anyways living here and you happen upon Switzerland I mean to run for president and where are you from in the States or what where’s your base
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well let me just finish this part and then and then I’ll go back but so so then I extra came back in February and March this year to go around the country to see where the problems were and I hit 28 states in the continental United States I’ve been there why the last so we took two vacations back-to-back in Hawaii three and four years ago as a family we were on Maui for one and we were the Big Island for a different one when the volcano was erupting and and then we were naturally in Oahu so yeah so we
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were a little bit in Hawaii too but anyways maybe that that might have been sort of the spark you know because I just love Hawaii it’s it’s just a magical place but that’s a whole nother story but anyway so you know traveling around the country meeting with different people both green people and just people of all walks of life from you know very rich to poor and all sorts I got a real feeling for the the difficulties and where things are falling apart I also met with the Navajo Nation with somebody
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from the government there and they gave me a good insight into the Native American issues and and I went from coast to coast I was in like New Hampshire in New York embossed and all the way to LA and and down to Texas and every you know I had actually a few states that I had never been in before too so that was quite interesting and this from then I came back and then I came back and then the virus was was breaking that was in the like March 10th and then Switzerland went into lockdown and then shortly thereafter u.s. went
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into lockdown and it’s been like that ever since so what I’ve discovered is that it’s really actually you reach more people online so it’s actually a benefit to just work online and be centrally located plus because I’m agreeing I’m trying to be more ecological you know minded so I was saving the planet and traveling around all that time with like a car or something puts a lot of pollution in the air so by sitting here and working from home I was able to you know also participate in not polluting
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the air so that was good and then I could reconnect with the people that I met and and meet new friends you know also online and through the party and whatnot so yeah it’s actually been better this way so where are you where were you born or why are you and where do you ended up in Switzerland I mean yeah this thing and that you’re running from Switzerland is uh something new well a lot of people don’t know is Switzerland itself I like to call it our 51st state because there are lots of Americans here and then and
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then we also do a lot of our international dealings through Switzerland so the other country that has a UN building official UN building in it is Switzerland so we have the headquarters in the US but the other headquarters is here in Geneva and and then from there Switzerland is our contact in many countries it used to be our contact I think in Cuba and then it was now our contact in Venezuela so we work through our Swiss the Swiss Embassy here and then through their Swiss embassies in the in tho countries like Iran and I’m
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not sure all the different ones I think Saudi Arabia or United Emirates has just signed on through Switzerland to be our contact so Suman is sort of very connected to the United States in many ways and you know who knows what happens in the future but yeah one step at a time so I was born on Travis Air Force Base in California and my father was in the Air Force and he fought in Vietnam and that’s why we ended up on Guam for two years so to get to get to Guam we had to fly to Hawaii and then from
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Hawaii and we went off to Guam you know yeah I mean you’re living in Hawaii you know how wonderful it is it’s the Pacific Islands are amazing and what can I say I I have very fond memories but California was also great I have to admit you know it’s a nice state and I just absolutely adored my time there well I should take all the states or wonderful and I can’t get real you know favorite favorite much but it’s a big deal to run for president so like when someone says I’m running I’m trying to get an idea if
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I was someone said well you better ask her word she go to school and what kind of background they have but the decision that run for president you obviously gave it some thought and so what were you doing before it made you feel it that was a role you wanted to take on yeah well so what happened was is um my father retired after Guam and we went to Rochester New York and I lived there for eight years so my junior high in high school years and then I took myself off to art school at in New York City
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Parsons School of Design which I studied illustration I hadn’t actually wanted to study fine art but my parents said no because we’re not going to pay for a fine art degree for you because it was so expensive so and we were anyways taking out student loans and all this and by the time I was done I had two cons up to here but anyways long story short is I was then an artist and I was you know not doing well it was the time when they decided to add cameras to the courtrooms so that had a lot of artists
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out of work and then it was the advent of computers which put a lot of other artists out of work so there was a whole you know a lot of artists that were out of work and eventually I went back to school and I learned typing and word processing and then I started working in a bank and then I liked it I liked having I mean one of the reasons why I started working in a bank was because I didn’t have any healthcare coverage or I should say any affordable healthcare at the time I was working as a freelancer
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and then I was also working in restaurants and you don’t get health care so what happened was as I started working banking because it was good at math and then I started moving into the circles there and I decided to get my Series 1763 because the the bank was supporting me and and I thought it would help my career in that series 7 and series 63 different kinds of licenses that you need to sell different kinds of securities ok that’s right and insurance yeah and and so I was officially a
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stockbroker I could have been so I did try it for a while I wasn’t very good at being a stockbroker but I stayed in the securities industry and I worked for a while and different things and then I eventually met this nice Swiss man Swiss bank that I was working at and he said well you know I like you you like me and and I he said I don’t want to live in New York and I said well I’ve lived already in many places I can live in Switzerland so then I came here and and then we started a family and that’s a
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whole nother story we had many difficulties having a family our first son was only lived one day so that was really tough and then we have a eventually like five months later I got pregnant again with a girl and she was born and we had about three years of health with her and then unfortunately she got leukemia so then yeah so then we were about two and a half years in medical treatments with her and then we had about a year and a little bit off and then suddenly the leukemia came back again so then it was another two years
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of treatment so in all it was about six years of constantly going to the hospitals and everything and now yeah but she’s now 18 years old and she took her last kill at ten years old and she is cured supposedly so yeah yeah so anyway that’s how I got to Switzerland that’s a little bit of the fast story of what’s happened to me since I got here well so um not that you need any specific experience to be President but you know it’s quite a role to take on you know you have to know how to go left
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how to go right how did the well give me a little bit more on your background there what makes you feel or what do you want to do as president that motivated you to do this kind of move because I’m sure I don’t know if you have you hadn’t met conversation with the other candidates and any kind of debate or things like that yeah yeah we’ve had different forums and so yeah I’ve participated and they’ve been good this is gonna be the longest conversation I’ve had so this is going
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to be interesting to see what this is like but for the most part you know it’s been really interesting I do hold different views than some of the other ones and I don’t I’m not a pure green you know I do have my personal variations and as an artist you know I see outside of the box which I think unfortunately some of our people see inside the box so I think that’s a benefit I think that’s a benefit for me what brought me here is so I should going back to my art school years when
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we the first year of art school you study art history and one of my favorite movements was the dog eyes movement which was about a freedom of speech and freedom of expression and peaceful protest so and it started here in Zurich and so you know for me when my husband said well you want to come live with me and Zurich I was as an artist the artist inside of me was sleeping out yes yes you know that’s the home of Dada so you know I was thrilled to be in Zurich and walking around where the Dadaist had
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started and you know everything so um then when my daughter was well I slowly got back into art and it was coming up on the 100-year anniversary of Dada is in 2016 and I realized that that was going on and they were celebrating and I said well I want to get involved and then I saw on their website they had a way to get involved so I did so I went around then the country here in Switzerland and I promoted Azam at different events and I should I have to backtrack a little bit I have a new Jewish style of art that I do what I
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like to do is I photograph people smiles and I make something called a smile cloud now the first smile cloud was started because I was invited to an art show where I was going to be an artist at the event and people were going to be walking by and and I wanted to do something with them to interact and now in Switzerland people don’t really smile here and they’re very sort of rigid and yeah so a little bit what I started was to help them but it was also to help me and what I wanted to do was I wanted to
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ask the people that stopped I if they would smile for me and I could photograph their smile and then the idea was to hang the smiles together every night I would go home print out the smiles and then I would put them into like this sort of cloud looking thing of smiles and it was it was working it was working there were supposed to be 40,000 people walking through this event so I was thinking you know I would get quite a few smiles I eventually only got a hundred and twenty plus smiles I will say only thirty thousand people came
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that year probably only about 10,000 walked by my stand and then out of that there were probably about a hundred people who said no that they wouldn’t smile for me and so anyways that’s what I ended up with so that’s how it started it was sort of you know to get people together my works bring people together and so that was the birth of that that was how that came to be and that eventually like I said I started to do that more often bring people together on certain topics so then I was bringing people together on
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Dadaism and it was to promote peace and unity between people without prejudice and so on and so forth so then I I was taking a little break because that was a big project and then a friend of mine said no no you need to start again so I decided then the next one would be based on it was the year when France was having all the terrorist attacks and since Switzerland is right next to France it was getting closer and closer to home so I decided I would create a smile style that United people of different religions and also people
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who are not religious and I’m up to a little over a thousand smiles now it’s an ongoing project but anyways so long story short is is with that smile cloud I was done with a project my husband was complaining because it was spending all this money and not selling any art and so I thought well what is how can I promote peace and make money at the same time because that’s ultimately what my projects are about promoting peace this was the one that I’m doing right now which is it’s enough already smile for
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peace was about that so then I looked around and I thought I could be President of the United States what better job to have to promote peace than that job and it’s available people are going for it and you get paid a salary so I thought well that’s a great opportunity and then I thought you know eventually when I’m president or maybe after home presidency I I will be known and then I can easily get the smiles of the leaders of the countries too because I think that would be very powerful to
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have their smiles another smile cloud so here I’m gonna be an audience so now I want to tuned in to see the the green candidate so I’m watching all the Jason shows and here comes Susan book their hockey was perfect book sir book sir yeah anyway and I asked her what do you want to be president for and and she doesn’t say anything so far that like we’re in the middle of a covert crisis the whole world has exploded financially all kinds of things going on what we know you want peace and I’m with
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you and I hope that I hope that you have a platform through this so more people get to see your smile clouds and say your art gets the viewing myself included that it deserves because I know that from your heart but I’m to run for president is like I keep thinking you ran for specifics or things you’d like to change especially have you spent much time in the States or have you been traveling different countries and I always wondering to know what’s going on in the world that is good I’m wondering
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how it relates to us going on here I mean I’m just green it shows the Green Party way back when I ran it was 1992 and four and six that was a long time ago when we were pretty well running just to put the green platform out and so and to put ideas into the minds of people that were nowhere near that now our ideas you say green everyone grabs the name thinks they got it right and they’re all green because it’s not now it’s not sacrilegious to say er environmentally responsible you know
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before you were considered radical I was gone radical which I always found very funny so you chose green because the platform was close to your heart but with some exceptions yeah well I was raised in a Republican household and then when I left home at 18 I became you know independent I voted in every election and I never I always voted for who I liked rather than what party they were in and then being in Switzerland there was a large group of Democrats or something called Democrats abroad which
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I know some people who were in there so normally from Switzerland you can’t vote in a primary unless you are in a party so I decided on the Democrats about 10 years ago or maybe maybe 12 years ago unless Democrats abroad a group and I should say I actually technically really didn’t even join the Democrats abroad I just became a Democrat so I could participate in primaries so then I Switzerland yes in Switzerland yeah yeah would you know it I don’t want to go into it but the way that we vote from
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abroad is it’s unbelievably shockingly bad but that’s a whole nother story you’re talking about the way we Americans yes we are not residing in common why is it something you can put in a nutshell well so when I first started voting from abroad we would get this like cardboard card with a little wire and then you’re supposed to punch holes into it of who you wanted to vote for and then you put it back into this envelope and you send it back and it’s clearly labeled all over the place this
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is a voting ballot and then stuff of that so tampering 100% it can really happen and nowadays what you do to vote from from here is you can do it online so online is tell them you want to vote they send you an email with a PDF that you print out and you tape everything together like you have to tape the envelope together and you have this ballot that you fill out we no longer have to punch the holes in it now we color in circles and then you put it in this taped up envelope and you mail it again everything is clearly
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written you know ballot so tampering 100% I mean yeah and and there’s enough people enough Americans voting living abroad that we have a whole nother state out here you know we have enough people to create a state so this is it’s it’s kind of big but yeah so that’s certainly one of my issues I don’t see why we can’t do it really online I don’t understand that why can’t we just vote online or just everybody gets the same ballot situation they’re mailed out one month before the
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election with all the names on it and you just vote and you mail it back in I mean I don’t see why there are separate ones for each state and everybody does it differently I just I don’t get our system some things need to be a standard standardized sorry and this is certainly one of them so I I am shocked I am often shocked with certain things and so you would do something about the procedures for elections I think so it’s it’s certainly not the highest thing I think we have other things that might be
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higher what would I do now with let’s say crime you’ve been hearing all this stuff now about what’s happened in the United States I’m sure this situation with George Floyd there and yes well and we’re having protests over here for for George and the whole situation too and Switzerland is not a saint by any means Switzerland also has their own issues as a country but that’s a whole different story but we we have people here are in support of the protesters 100% I am too I think this has been good even before
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all of this came out and we knew it you know we saw the video of George and his death it was already on my plan because I had already realized that there were these issues and you know I want to legalize drugs I want to legalize prostitution we need to get police to stop patrolling because basically what the what they’re doing is they’re looking for somebody doing something and if they don’t find somebody doing something they we now know they make it up sometimes you know so I think this is a huge issue and we
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don’t need police going around looking for people doing bad things because by doing that you stress people out and and the police are on the hunt so to speak and then the people feel you know hunted and I’m not just talking about black people I’m talking about people I know I have felt you know when I’m driving in my car and there’s a policeman coming I feel like oh my gosh I have to do everything correctly and if I do something wrong I’m gonna be in trouble so we should what what should policeman
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do just be there if you call them that’s right yep I think we could have police driving around and looking not for troublemakers but looking to see where how people are behaving and just you know see where maybe trouble might be or an area they might notice you know there’s a big pothole suddenly so they might notice that and then they have to call I don’t know who what department that is but then they have to call them and say look there’s a pothole there can you fix it or they you know just
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something like that yeah I don’t I just don’t think that they should be really on the beat anymore that’s not necessary but that because you think people have changed in some way that they I mean with all the writing and all the things that we’ve seen people breaking into stores well whoever they’re connected with or whether they’re independent so isn’t that like late to have some kind of presence once I mean once the stores are being broken into that’s when you’d
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call someone that’s why I’m well see my platform it’s all inclusive you can’t take one piece without the other so I’m calling for mandatory participation in community service I used to be calling it you know I was calling it up upgrading or not upgrading upcycling the military but I think you know people still have this issue with military and and so on so I think upcycling the community service is the best way to put it so you go for training we trained you for about three months and then we send
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you to different places to use the new skills that you have you might learn anything from road repair to to working in in a so this is I want to say service for the state I want to say in Israel like to use them as a good example where everyone has a level of jobs and responsibilities it may be fighting it might be to be military ristic but it might be other things that contribute to the welfare of the country we all we all are involved that what you saying yes exactly so that it’s our country it’s our community and
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therefore you know you won’t have you might still have one or two bad doers but it’s probably because they need some mental health so we get them into therapy we help them and and then if they’re really not somebody who can be placed in society then maybe we put them into a institution like a prison or something but right now I think we the biggest problem is is we have too many people in prisons and being arrested for minor things that as we now know you know white people have certain privilege and it’s really true
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and black people you know don’t and and then we have all the colors in between who get into trouble too with certain drugs like smoking marijuana you know this is something that a lot of people do and some people get caught and go to jail for it and other people don’t get bothered and this is not fair so it’s clear anyways the system is not working it’s broken it’s not fair and we need to make it fair and so that would be one of my goals it’s just actually I mean I am I would say the biggest thing that I
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don’t hear not only you but in general is everything costs money and in a socialist more socialist state the state says okay it’s mandatory all this happens and we’ll get you your basics food and whatever other things but well here’s the system in America where people want more freedom and choice so if you said mandatory freedom of choice either way where do we get the money like when you talk about the jails and and what should be there what often seems to be the biggest issues is money
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I keep thinking that if our society was more integrated in finances whether whether it’s to through a participation marketplace where somehow people get paid when others that they refer and shopping so that someone like Jeff Bezos at Amazon doesn’t have this disruptive idea – you know everyone’s gonna start doing things online now the whole world is shifted to online we’re losing retail I mean there’s all kinds of aspects going on so as president and I’m really just trying to
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get a feeling for you know what you would do I hear interesting ideas and I I I don’t doubt that you’d be happy if some of these ideas were embraced by people that are in different offices because your shot of being president as agreeing this lease to this election cycle unless you have a little more money and promotion you may not get the kind of exposure that you’d hope to get you know even if it was just to be the the top green to get in the election so I’m doing this to pull your ideas of
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things that I think can be valuable for people in this country because that’s what I look at green values and you know out here in Hawaii I could talk about regenerative agriculture and food security and we don’t have enough housing and and all kinds of different stuff but you know when I’m talking I’m trying to get a feeling for what major policy things that you would put in place that might move this game forward in a in a more peaceful and inclusive way so I don’t mean to seem funny I’m
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just trying to reach for more meat if you will yeah well for me from for me the fastest way forward to make everything equal for everybody to really bring everybody to one level would be to take away money let’s take away money we don’t need it we can we can do it so I I have like I have already a video out there actually two videos of my four different ways to go forward from all of this coronavirus crisis and and everything and so the first way is that if the whole world would go without
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money that would make everything even all the planet I would recommend that everybody stay at their jobs for the next two years until we get a training program in InFocus you know working and then we can then start event in investigating having people work in more jobs that they really want to work in I think a lot of people are doing jobs that they don’t want to do currently and they’re all stressed out and then that stress is coming out in tensions between people of all levels another now there
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are some forty I don’t want to say 50 40 something million people then through in the last few months or suddenly finding themselves unemployed so staying in the same jobs is hard thinking about retraining them the question is I mean I may have ideas that was the idea so yes the people who are so truthfully people work more if the u.s. in the u.s. people work more than one job so they might be unemployed from one job but they might be working at another job they might be working part-time someplace else so you
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know just because we have all these unemployment numbers that doesn’t mean that people still aren’t working someplace else I am seeing a lot of people that are not working anywhere else they’re in the whelming the land of tourism and the people that are in the hotels and in the restaurants and in that whole industry and all the support things don’t have other jobs and they’re they’ve been home and some of them are in you know quote critical services but here things are closing down and you
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know here we are the economy is going to open up but there are very few places that are open are saying yes we’re ready to open up and we’re in a very special place I mean I don’t know what’s it like near you are you finding the Kovac thing is believable there people taking it seriously people are really taking it seriously Switzerland really stopped we hardly had any real issues with people following the instructions um I personally uh as a an artist I spent a lot of time alone
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anyways so I have two dogs that I was constantly with but you know my family my daughter is a nurse or she’s in the apprenticeship program here in Switzerland to be a nurse and so she had to go and work at the Children’s Hospital the same one that she got her leukemia treatment at she’s she wants to give back in that way so I would I would drive her there so that she wouldn’t have to take public transportation Switzerland has a really good public transportation system here but as a
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nurse I didn’t want her to be exposed to those germs so I’ve made sure that she got there with as little contact with others as possible and my husband – he’s in banking and so banking was still going on so he had to still go to work – so I was always here alone and for me the only time when I actually really confronted the whole issue was when I would go grocery shopping where I’d have to wash my hands before I went into a store or when I had I have an older dog that needed to go to the vet and there
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we had some strange procedures your situations are very person specifically in 45 million people unemployed never working major things going on across the United States never mind Switzerland has been smart America has been stupid America has it’s just a different way it’s a different way of business that’s evolved you can’t help it it’s how the US has decided to evolve but now it’s time to evolve further is my point and I think that that evolving to no money would be the best
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way and the quickest way to even out everything then people would work for the community groceries would come to your doorstep you don’t have to even go or you can go you know it everything would be flexible and eventually what would happen maybe maybe that’s where we start with the unemployment people the people who are not working we start with their training first why not so we just start with their training we train them in these different new jobs and how do we make that happen or who’s gonna train them and how do they
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get compensated in a way I mean the transition from people saying oh yeah I know but now you believe that but what about the rest of the world I mean if you say okay here’s the deal no more money surely there gonna be some people that might have some difficulty with that yes well we’re probably seeing how to deal with that right now with the protests that are going on in the United States so of course you still have the National Guard and you still have the army and those people might have to come
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in and help control the people who are not happy with living without money you know although I don’t know I don’t know if the top 1% is gonna come out on the streets and complain I want my money back you know I don’t think they’re gonna do that I’m not sure not that I all knowing but I don’t see how that would have an easy time being accepted it’s not gonna be a transition transition people that say oh no no no that’s socialism you’ve heard these kind of words yeah I don’t like to describe
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them with any kind of word so what you prefer it sounds like what you want to do is sort of I don’t want to say give everyone something each month but if there’s no money you’re giving certain basic rights as part of the living which is a shift a little bit in system and what do you do with people that somehow were quote you call them one percenters but people that had a lot that now suddenly you’re coming in with a curveball first of all I don’t know how you’d pass that law but
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let’s say you I don’t know how you would pass that law how would you get people to vote for that well if they vote for me I guess they’re voting for that but what I would I have online on YouTube on my youtube channel is there I have a talk Tuesday where I talk about four different ways of going forward one of them is to go back to what we had before and if that’s what you want then I am absolutely not your president so you don’t have to vote for me because I am NOT going back to what was before period
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end of story the second option which which is a step down from what we had before towards what I’m talking about so I yeah is I attended some years ago a conference about women and the state of women in the future of women of the world at the UN in Geneva so I visited the UN and I’ve gone as women’s conferences there and it was very interesting and by the end of the day we all I was there with a group of American women from Zurich we all walked away with the with the thought that well one
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of the worst things you can do as a woman in your lifetime has become a mother and the reason for that so a statement is that it takes you out of your career path takes you out of the work world and being a mother in in the past was seen as you know nothing it’s a nothing job and we do it for free there’s no pension there’s no nothing so and then like let’s say you’re done with motherhood and you’re starting to work again come in at a different level than people of your same age or whatever and all
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these people have been working and building up connections and stuff and you just aren’t in that world so you’re already at a lower rate now let’s say though that while you’re being a mother you know your husband dies or let’s say that when you’re done you can’t get a job you know so this is all things that lead eventually to poverty and really it does in a lot of countries oftentimes two men walk away and or if you get divorced your husband takes his pension with you so you don’t get that pension
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money either that he was earning and you know just all sorts of things so in general it’s clear that it’s a bad thing but one of the things that occurred to me is it we’re not it’s a job and we’re not getting paid for it and it’s not being taken seriously and that is one of the reasons why we have also so many unhappy children and I’m gonna say so many children who are going into schools and shooting I think there’s two less love in the family and in the family unit and two less respect between
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children and parents right now in the US I think the US has multiple problems that have evolved over time and we sort of forgot a lot of things in the process so my presidency will bring connectedness back bring respect back to the family by giving mother’s pay I want to pay mothers for their work because it’s important work and it will a bring a morsel if I solidifying family unit by having a woman being paid and then the man or and a woman when I say woman I’m only calling this that because we’ve
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been doing this job for so long for free but a man can be in that position and get that pay and the women can be the one going off working at a bank for work and or if it’s a same-sex couple whoever stays at home with the children and raises them will get that money will get that pay because one of the times in your life where you need the most money is when you become a family you know you have a lot of things that you have to buy for a baby like a stroller and a crib and just all sorts of things so
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it’s the way our system currently is functioning it’s it’s not and that’s what we’re seeing it’s broken so I say it more clearly in my videos that I’ve had but that’s probably what we should probably do it because you say it in your videos let’s get them to their because we only have a few minutes left and I’m sure you want to have a summation what’s a good website because you have videos a lot of videos up there I do I have MA every morning right now
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since for about I don’t know a month month and a half I started doing a coffee with me for I give different political opinions or different ideas or even the inspirational thoughts every morning you know I give something yeah I will say sometimes I get a little behind schedule and so I’m like in the afternoon or evening but I try to get one out every day and then and then I have special things that I do on Tuesdays where I have a tough Tuesday that do you have do you have this at some website or how do people find out
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more about you so so okay so where you can find me is on YouTube these videos are all on YouTube I have a few that I haven’t uploaded yet from earlier time so at the beginning of all this then my my presidential website is down still from I don’t know I updated my telephone number on it and suddenly they took it down so I don’t know what’s going on there one more minute so I have a different website it’s my art one which is it’s called n art so it’s WWN like nancy art the word dot CH for
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Switzerland Switzerland abbreviation is ch I’m on Facebook I have my personal facebook page you can send me some of these and because a minute left and all you’ll be doing is given out of addresses I’m Susan book sturla hockey running for president of the United States at the Green Party vote for me please if you’re green vote for me in your primary it’s coming up if you’re not green and you want to vote for me then I’ll see you in November hopefully and you can vote for
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me then I am all about a revolution in lifestyle quality of life for everybody and human potential for all okay and you’re gonna send me all the web addresses so I’ll be posting them all over the video you’ll be seeing it wonderful thank you so much I’m really happy to be here thank you Jason for for asking me to come I’m really thrilled and a lot a lot to everybody and yeah juice is what we say in Swiss German juice and I just know that it’s really important to me to give you a chance to
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have your what you want to say heard because it takes a lot to run for president whether it’s a Green Party or not whether it’s a primary you have ideas you want to put out and and obviously it’s it’s very important that we all hear each other so we can start implementing some of these solutions and to make this a better and more peaceful world yeah and fortunately an hour is not enough to get everything out so yes just check out my youtube videos and we can always do something in the future this
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is a our makeshift studio you know we’re doing at home with zoom that’s the stock we should have bought last week right well maybe money won’t be worth anything soon well if we don’t treat each other nicely you know what good is a world where you have a lot of nothing around you is functional that’s not life I want to live that’s right what’s behind you what is all that so these are my ideas these are things that matter to me you want to try show you closer to they are give you a little tour this is my
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home studio too so I have like all these things I used to write an article in our American Women’s Club booklet called art matters and then at some point a few years after I was writing art matters then suddenly black lives matter came and then I decided I would continue with the matters theme so these are all different things that matter to me things I want to work on things that are important I think to everybody you know I think you’re seeing them all yeah so yeah so this looks behind me what are
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you wearing it looks that purple bad what is all that well and see yeah we probably should have talked about that a little bit but so I’m dressed like a suffragette it’s the 100 year anniversary year of women’s rights to vote this year and I’m marching still for women’s rights because we don’t have all the rights that men have and it doesn’t matter what color you are we just don’t have the same rights so as we talked earlier one of my rights is about motherhood and
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getting paid for that important job that we do and then also I want pasta prostitution to be made legal because that’s also an important woman’s job that needs actually to be done I think that’s part of the problem is that it’s illegal and I think men need that ability to go and be with a woman I think our society needs to change their thinking on that so anyways this is a traditional stuff outfit from 100 years ago and this is the badge this is what they used to wear I’m gonna try to get it closed up it
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says votes for women and in August it will be the 100-year really anniversary is coming up but this is the anniversary year so I’m you know celebrating every day my womanhood and our right to vote that we’ve been able to do it for a hundred years you know it’s great so that’s why and then this I picked up in the Navajo Nation when I was there it’s summertime so you know I can’t wear my full presidential coat and stuff so this is my summer time presidential yeah I’m also really I
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think we need to help the Native Americans I think they’ve really fallen through the cracks and in my presidency I plan on definitely helping them as much as possible yeah thank you for being with us Susan I hope that everything goes well I look forward to seeing what’s happening here in the election and I appreciate all your ideas I look forward to we won’t throw myself yeah thank you [Music]
