Summary & Transcript
- [00:01 → 02:50]
Introduction and Setting
The session begins with a warm musical intro, setting a peaceful and uplifting tone. The host introduces Tilak, a spiritual teacher from Sri Lanka, known for his transformative shows. This gathering is not merely an interview but an intensive class, offering participants a deeper experience beyond mere information exchange. - [02:50 → 09:16]
Distinction Between Information and Experiential Wisdom - Tilak emphasizes that what he shares is not information, but news—a living experience rather than historical facts or conceptual knowledge.
- Traditional teachings and ancient wisdom often came in the form of songs, which invoked internal transformations rather than intellectual understanding.
- Information serves a survival or tool-based purpose, but Tilak work is about experiencing an inner opening—a shift in perception that cannot be grasped by the mind alone.
- He compares this to gravity, something unseen yet fundamentally affecting life, suggesting that true understanding requires direct experience, not intellectualizing.
- People often misunderstand spiritual teachings because they expect to understand or learn cognitively, whereas the real process is about losing old mental grips and unlearning conditioned survival patterns.
- The human mind’s attachment to information creates barriers; Tilak teaches the importance of letting go and opening to presence, love, and light.
- [09:16 → 14:36]
Human Nature and the Essence of Wisdom - Being human—fragile, imperfect, and impermanent—is presented as a profound opportunity rather than a limitation.
- Wisdom is not a stored commodity or latent energy waiting to be unlocked; rather, it is an ongoing capacity to see clearly and adapt spontaneously to life’s moments.
- Our current mental state is often distracted and fragmented, limiting clear vision. To access wisdom, one must cultivate passion, wakefulness, and clarity—analogized to having a clean windshield and fuel in a car.
- Wisdom is described as “vision in action”, encompassing clear perception and the ability to respond effectively without reliance on fixed reference points.
| Concept | Description |
|---|---|
| Information | Data or facts used as tools, mainly for survival purposes |
| Wisdom | Capacity to see clearly and act spontaneously in life |
| Unlearning | Letting go of learned survival patterns and mental grips |
| Presence | State of being open to light, love, and direct experience |
- [14:36 → 20:09]
Experiencing Beyond the Ordinary and the Nature of “Seeing” - A participant shares her experience of feeling relaxed and safe after sessions with Tilak, attributing it to seeing something beyond usual concerns.
- Tilak explains this phenomenon as seeing a “password” to infinity, which transcends personal life worries.
- The external world is a mirror reflecting one’s inner state; beauty or peace is not inherent in the environment but in one’s ability to perceive it.
- Moments of unconditional wonder and unreasonable happiness emerge when one glimpses beyond ordinary sensory experience into the infinite and impermanent nature of life.
- Such experiences are rare and require readiness; not everyone is prepared or willing to access these deeper states.
- The process is likened to diving beneath the ocean surface—only those who are ready will see the deeper currents.
- [20:09 → 26:54]
The Concept of the “Cool Breeze” and Energy Dynamics - The “cool breeze” is a metaphor for a spontaneous, refreshing energy that arises when internal contraction and habitual tension release.
- Human beings constantly hold unconscious patterns that generate heat, tension, and shadows within themselves.
- The cool breeze represents an opening of consciousness, allowing lightness, peace, and timelessness to enter. This is a natural, organic experience that contrasts with the habitual mental “heat” of scheming and planning.
- Physical cooling devices (fans, air conditioning) reflect a natural human craving for this coolness, which also exists metaphorically as a calm, spacious state of mind and body.
- Opening the “windows of consciousness” can bring this inner coolness, which is felt as a light, love, and presence that sustains and refreshes life energy.
| Term | Meaning |
|---|---|
| Cool Breeze | Metaphor for spontaneous inner peace and lightness after releasing mental and emotional tension |
| Holding Patterns | Unconscious mental/emotional contractions causing internal tension and “heat” |
| Opening Windows | Allowing consciousness to be receptive to light and calmness |
- [26:54 → 35:03]
Light, Love, and the Nature of Spiritual Energy - Light is described as organic energy, analogous to fire, which radiates, ascends, and illuminates. Humans are “balls of heat,” and life is experienced through this energetic fire.
- The personal story and mental conditioning act as a veil or blanket over one’s true self, obscuring natural light and presence.
- When this veil is lifted, one experiences light and love that are not mere emotions but fundamental qualities of existence—connection, innocence, and supreme love beyond intellectual understanding.
- Although humans are self-centered and survival-driven, the underlying fabric of existence is love, which connects all things.
- Tilak explains his energy as transformative rather than forceful; his touch opens a space for natural presence and light to emerge within the individual.
- [35:03 → 39:43]
Effects of Sessions and Energy Integration - Participants report experiences of peace, cessation of mental chatter, and bursts of white or psychic light following sessions.
- Such energetic shifts can persist for approximately 72 hours, during which the body and energy field integrate the transformation.
- The process can continue in waves for up to 33 or 66 days, during which habitual mental and emotional patterns may attempt to reassert themselves, often leading to self-sabotage or impatience.
- Tilak compares this to a natural biological regeneration cycle, emphasizing that awakening is a process requiring patience and non-interference.
- [39:43 → 44:41]
Laughter, Effortlessness, and Spiritual Warrior Mindset - Laughter post-session is explained as a release from mental stories and tensions.
- True spiritual awakening is characterized by effortlessness, meaning actions and presence arise naturally without stress or forced energy.
- Tilak critiques common spiritual tendencies to manipulate life or loved ones for comfort or control, highlighting this as ego-driven behavior hindering true awakening.
- A spiritual warrior embraces challenges, courageously confronts personal ego, and surrenders mental compulsions to reveal one’s authentic, loving nature.
- This path involves dying to old patterns and emerging renewed, regardless of age or past experiences.
| Concept | Explanation |
|---|---|
| Effortlessness | Acting without stress or forced energy; natural flow |
| Spiritual Warrior | One who courageously confronts ego and lives authentically with love |
| Ego Manipulation | Using spirituality as a tool to control others or situations unconsciously |
- [44:41 → 51:24]
Integration of Spirituality with Life and Graceful Presence - The teaching stresses embracing life fully rather than detaching from it, celebrating being alive and engaging with all aspects of existence.
- A spiritual warrior moves through life with grace, intimacy, and lightness, regardless of physical form or location, whether in urban environments or nature.
- Grace is described as a speechless recognition, a deep internal harmony that guides one’s presence and interaction with the world.
- True spirituality manifests as living with intensity and tenderness simultaneously, like a “bowl of fire” with a “velvet river” heart.
- Awakening is not about escaping life or preparing for another existence but fully embracing and transforming this one.
- The journey with Tilak is framed as a call to adventure, requiring commitment, courage, and willingness to face continuous challenges as part of ongoing spiritual growth.
- Followers are invited to join this transformative current, which, though small in number, can generate ripples affecting many generations.
- [51:24 → 52:10]
Closing and Gratitude - The session closes with expressions of gratitude toward Tilak for his wisdom and presence.
- A ceremonial gift, “The Red Bird of Waikomoi,” is presented, symbolizing connection and appreciation between the teacher and the community.
Key Insights Summary
- Wisdom is experiential, not informational; it arises from presence and inner opening, not cognitive learning.
- Human imperfection and fragility are assets, enabling authentic engagement with life.
- Unlearning survival conditioning is necessary to access true freedom and joy.
- Spiritual awakening is not an event but a process of continuous adaptation and clarity, requiring passion and wakefulness.
- The “cool breeze” symbolizes spontaneous inner peace and release from habitual tension.
- Light and love are fundamental energies revealed when mental veils drop; they are beyond emotion or thought.
- Transformation after spiritual sessions unfolds over days and weeks, requiring patience and surrender.
- True spirituality is about living fully in this life with grace, courage, and authenticity, not detachment or escapism.
- The spiritual warrior accepts ongoing challenges and embraces life’s adventure with open-hearted presence.
Glossary
| Term | Definition |
|---|---|
| Cool Breeze | Metaphorical experience of inner peace and lightness following release of tension |
| Spiritual Warrior | An individual who courageously faces ego, lives authentically, and embraces life fully |
| Unlearning | The process of letting go of conditioned survival patterns to open to new awareness |
| Effortlessness | Natural, stress-free engagement with life and actions |
| Light | Organic energy representing presence, clarity, and love beyond intellectual understanding |
Timeline of Key Concepts and Experiences
| Timestamp | Event/Concept |
|---|---|
| 02:50 | Introduction of Tilak and framing of session as experiential class |
| 04:39 | Distinction between information and experiential wisdom |
| 09:16 | Human nature as opportunity; wisdom as capacity to see and act spontaneously |
| 14:36 | Experience of infinite “password”; reflection of inner state in outer world |
| 20:09 | Explanation of “cool breeze” as release of contraction and opening of consciousness |
| 26:54 | Light and love as fundamental energies, veil of personal story obstructing true self |
| 35:03 | Session effects lasting 72 hours to 33/66 days; process of energy integration |
| 39:43 | Laughter as release; spiritual warrior mindset; effortlessness |
| 44:41 | Integration of spirituality with full life engagement; grace as deep internal harmony |
| 51:24 | Closing gratitude and presentation of symbolic gift |
This summary captures the essence of the profound teachings delivered by Tilak, emphasizing experiential wisdom, the human journey toward authentic presence, and the transformative power of openness and love within everyday life.
Transcript
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[Music] lift your head [Music] let me go [Music] reach out your hands and help each other your mother now father your sister and brother there is love in this family pick yourself up and get on your feet don’t [Music] is [Music] [Music] [Music] styling and once again it is our great pleasure to bring you a wonderful day today with my beloved Tilak and Tilak in case you haven’t tuned in to us before when he’s been gifting us with these wonderful shows tilak is from sri lanka and i will let him speak for
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would his like to have something to say too i know all these people have appreciated your shows so much well uh i want to tell people in [Music] anyway so [Music] yeah i have talked quite a few times with you ariel so maybe you can ask one or two things i can expand or respond to you with absolutely well we’re here today we have um Tilak’s intensive class here and so this will be not just an interview but it will be for the class so you are so lucky you get to be part of the class and i do have a question for you yeah why is
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it that so many of us have for years studied information that you are talking about and why is it that from you we take it in differently or we hear it differently i know that that’s the case for me and it’s the case for many people that i know in this group and we’ve studied for a long time we know the wisdom but somehow when you talk to us we receive it differently well number one actually what i give is not information i don’t talk about information what i say the talks are given of news it’s not
04:39
about history and it’s not about how things work or what it is or it is not about how to be i’m just only showing you a picture in fact not only me i’m sure most of the time thousands of years back even all the bread beans they didn’t give information they sang songs because they were in love so when they send songs a number of people who in the audience they just dance they just dance it was not the outside dance dance inside something happened to them inside out of which actually came
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beautiful spaces or realizations or it you see information are good only if you are a crook because information is to provide you with some tools so you can go and get something you see this is not about getting anything this is about when you and as i said when you are in love you using a song because you feel so so so happy and you you feel so good it is a natural overflow that comes out you see and in the same way i have seen a picture i have experienced a picture so for people who have not experienced a
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picture to describe that take a certain kind of a energy and opening and a brilliance to show it you see like have you seen gravity people will say no what are you talking about have you experienced gravity you will say i don’t know exactly what i experienced gravity do you know what gravity is like you see so like a certain way but you are living because there’s gravity if there’s no gravity you will be you’ll be the spirits people will love the idea being spirit no it won’t be fun
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no no it won’t be fun you will not be having fun to be at ease you see certain ways so in the same way it is not information i am sure in the presence of a great buddha or a price people didn’t care what they were saying their presence itself was good enough to be affected and to be blown away their stories their minds and their all these holding patterns you feel good when i am talking to you is not because you are understanding what i am saying you can’t be educated or understood in order to
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have a realization it is not a point of reference that is given to you so you will feel better but somewhere other your bodies have open to various different degrees with the presence of light obviously presence of a whole breeze or and so whenever you hear things now that it has to be understood and digested it creates an opening the words carry a certain kind of presence within the presence of life presence of love and that allows you to actually lose your grip about what you are holding so when you are losing you feel better
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you mean you are losing now that you are getting you are losing i am a teacher of unlearning i love that that you have learned so what you have learned has made you miserable what you have what you have learned what you have learned have made you miserable you see there’s a little tale that want to save the most part everything what you have learned is actually about survival finally you see when it’s not about i learn and i became a better person and i’m having a good life or this or
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that what you have learned is not actually good or bad but you learned this for a purpose but you learned was for a purpose you you have a purpose and a reason and a goal and a direction and all those things that makes you a serious being you see i’m trying to actually open this flower so that you can experience the true blossoming and true sweetness of what it is and that’s one of the ways to say it well you know i i realize that it’s just our human mind that thinks we need information yeah um
09:16
and and yet we are in that human place as human bodies everybody is human and that that is in fact is the greatest thing that can happen you are human you are fragile you are imperfect you are imperfect you are impermanent fragile being and and that’s actually is not the bad news that is the good news because in that good news actually it makes you [Music] aware or rather provokes you to have the very best of time now and that’s actually the human mind and it’s not like this human mind and there
10:02
are some other supernatural powers and supernatural beings somewhere else that contains all the keys to wisdom in planet earth planet earth belongs to human beings when you are in planet earth and that’s the end of the story oh well you mean we can’t transplant ourselves yeah my thought now this this is the human looking for information human being called area looking pretty good area all right yes my thought was because when we have these wonderful sessions with you yeah and we open so much yeah
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my thought was that then perhaps when we take in some wisdom yeah that we’re in a more open space to take that in a different way is that correct well actually wisdom is not something that is stored in you like a black box in a jet plane you know to be found after you die but wisdom is something you see it’s your ability to see they are in the outrageously without the background you see wisdom is something you see you don’t see it clearly we are not clear you are not clear very simply put it
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because you are all over right now you are preoccupied to certain extent you are distracted to a certain extent you are fatigued to a certain extent you are daydreaming to a certain extent all those extent put together you are aware about ten percent here you see and that’s not strong enough to really see clearly in order to see clearly you need passion you need lust no you need lust last is one the cess for life you have to be aroused in order to see you have to be awake in order to see you see so people actually want to you
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know run about 80 miles per hour without gas in the car you can’t do that first you have to feel the gas and then actually you have to have a really clean windscreen you see not that not the mirrors inside the car inside but have a very clear wind screen not the mirror you see and no hand breaks don’t just kiss [Music] [Applause] [Music] the best drivers they never use handbrakes okay the best drivers i mean [Music] so anyway actually there is a certain about this idea about the wisdom in fact there are
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sometimes people believe that you have some kind of intelligence or a wisdom or energy that is weight in within you to erupt at a certain time and it will be awakened and then you will see everything clearly and that you are waiting for the universe to provide this particular timeline and number one to actually understand that is that’s one of the greatest myths to see that you see all the wisdom that actually you gained in life you gained for one purpose to spontaneously adapt your life to any
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situation or any given moment that came from it is not a wisdom that actually is stored in your body or in your brain or somewhere else probably in your belly button you see to come out and just show you absolutely tonight there is no such thing because if it is so it will be weird to have a wisdom when you did all silly and stupid things in the last few years you just waited you know in sleep like you see wisdom is not actually something that is taught wisdom is a space it’s a space like you can see clearly
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he said wisdom is actually a vision in action you can see clearly and then activate whatever you see so but wisdom is actually not about just seeing but it’s even beyond seeing beyonce able to have impact about everything that is happening past present in the future without reference point yes okay what’s the next question thank you well questions are welcome from the students also today well then why don’t we put it out here yeah okay yeah um the other day you were you were talking about the questions
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[Applause] the other day you were talking about um our experiences with you and part of what you just said now and um i know for me what happened for me because it’s really hard to describe it i know for everyone else it’s different but for me my experience with you was i saw something the first time i was with you and then as i have sessions with you i i see more things and because i saw those things the rest of the times when i’m not with you whatever i’m doing i just feel very
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relaxed like nothing else matters simply because whatever it was that i saw just i felt so comfortable and so at ease and so safe and so much well-being and knowing that that’s the way it was that i wasn’t worried about any of the rest of the other stuff so is that i mean is that interpretation close to what it really is or i mean that’s that’s that was my experience that’s a very good experience i have no idea what you’re talking about i think what she’s kind of trying to say
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is that she’s gotten to a point where this other little stuff is not so i know i know what you can actually say what’s he saying she saw the password called it doesn’t matter it doesn’t matter right but it doesn’t matter it’s actually not a password in your personal life it is a password in infinity you see in in your personal life there are things that matters there are certain things that actually in your life there’s something always that says there’s something serious or something
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preference or something priority or there are there are so many things that we you know you may want your health maybe your wealth may be or something that is off balance or to improve or whatever life you see what you see actually in life is actually truly speaking all the mirrors are about you if you are not feeling good though if you are not feeling at ease and happy no sunrise sunset will make you happy it doesn’t matter you go to the rainforest or the rainfall so you will come home you know still dull
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and boat you see not because actually they were there there are no such thing called beautiful flowers the flowers are flowers when you see them something within you triggers and you feel oh they are beautiful flowers flowers never say actually we are beautiful right guys come and just smell us like you see flowers just blossom by nature by itself without any without any condition no reason or wanting it is our ability to see them and change the very nature of them makes us supreme human beings you see
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so in the same way if you are not at ease it doesn’t matter what the world is so beautiful you know like you don’t have to go on a vacation if you are feeding back you can take a vacation in your bedroom you see and what i’m trying to say is like you know it’s just a way how how we see whatever you see is a reflection of yourself whether it is through the nature whether it is through somebody else’s life however there are moments you see something beyond yourself beyond the obvious
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reality obvious world which is very very rare extremely rare but it can happen when that happens you see something that the five senses are not able to normally see or your imagination cannot reach it is a part of the infinite nature part of the imperfection part of the impermanency part of the fragile nature of the life that is suddenly there that you don’t normally see it is almost like some people if you see the sunrise early morning if you are just sitting suddenly you may see a flash for like a
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green light not everybody can see that not even not all the time even it happens either because it has to be the right time at the right moment and you can just capture it like so in other words there is a moment when you can capture it is not actually you so object but you saw something this is something something that is other than what can be experienced because you know that you saw something it has an impact on your body you feel different you feel certainly good because you feel suddenly good i call it actually in fact
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unconditional wonder unconditional wonder or even unreasonable happiness area which is which is good because that actually immediately you know change your very nature of energy change your very nature of energy which is very sweet first as a little child with a little boy that’s part of my tribulation of the upbringing was i was able to see things and have a beautiful response and then began to play with them had even deeper response and interacting then i discovered then then i realized some things you see
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see that’s that’s a process that we go through that also brings you out of yourself that’s why it is nice it brings you out of yourself yes so how would you um tell our audience besides our group here because you have spoken to us how would you suggest that they help themselves to get to that place it is not for everybody because it’s not like [Music] see it is almost like seeing some beautiful currents of fish in the deep ocean it is not obvious to normal normally even those who are snorkeling off you
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see you have to do scuba diving i’m not asking everybody to come and jump and you know through their consciousness or through their hearts in order to see something so deeper just because it exists doesn’t mean everybody is ready or prepared or even wanting to or even willing to you see it’s not like there is something called awakening and everybody should be awakened some people need sleep before they can even wake up some people need sleep to just collect themselves and regenerate the energy you see so
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it’s like everybody is at a different point honest yeah otherwise any time christ came they could have wiped out the human race by a cool breeze it doesn’t happen that way each person has their own journey their own space their own path which is the river and nature the sacred nature about what is life you see each person you are you are taking you are on trip you are on trip you see and you know so and then when you join me actually that trip wherever you were taking was however you had a lot of detours and you had a
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lot of you know other fit words and so it falls into a right track upstream you you have been going downstream thinking that it was substrate because it feels easier to go that way it’s easier to go you know downstream you see so it’s true to bring you into upstream there’s struggle there’s riding and crankiness and and you know resistance and stories and all kinds of things but finally it is the adventure of life go to upstream is adventurous go to downstream is survival you can take a pic it’s not like it is
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it is something very natural and long otherwise so that way to see it however yes currently for me personally the biggest difference is that so much of the spiritual training this is karen by the way she’s a sacred warrior and she’s wearing the the white ribbon this is the first degree in spiritual debate yes um the difference is that so much of the spiritual training that many of us have had for years is it’s always about getting out of this life getting detached from this life not being affected by this life and
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what i find is in our work in our play it’s about getting into life it’s about enjoying being alive and and loving being here and celebrating your life celebrating yes right i mean that’s been the major difference about getting into the body being here enjoying it on all levels um because that also suggests actually in the human mind somewhere that there’s a voice saying you are not going to have a great life you see so we don’t even believe that your life will be absolutely extraordinary outrageously
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fantastically beautiful you think it will be the next one because you think you already had it in this one you missed it and it completely screwed up and now that’s it now you can always pray and meditate so you can be a better person maybe in the next one or else somehow the joy in the god or light lightening i said light or whatever that is possibility in this one like the truth is whether you are going to live for another one year or 100 years this is the life you will experience what is sacred not in the next one
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in the next one you will not be uh bonnie or uh ruth or ariel or next next one you won’t be here your name will be jason in next one [Applause] so that’s what happened josie [Laughter] yeah yeah i would ask to perhaps explain a little bit more about the cool breeze to our audience okay all right okay so [Music] cool cool breeze is actually a punch line like a like a punch line in organic space that happens cool breeze is the punchline when we actually have a belly laugh we feel good belly laugh of the
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elements it’s a cool breeze it’s like something opens in their events and because we are actually always holding something we are holding something our holding patterns creates contraction heat and shadows you see in shadows so yeah we are contract because uh the way we are holding is without our knowledge because we are doing many many scheming and planning even right now actually while you are listening to this talk you are doing scheming and planning it’s not actually a good or a bad thing
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it’s not the habit it’s a very nature it’s not it’s the very nature it’s like scheming and planning is like in the ocean you know when when the ocean doesn’t look like there are waves still there are waves there are little waves ocean is always steaming and planning meaning creating waves creating waves that’s a very fiber of it like you see i mean if you have a dog that doesn’t wet the tail something is off like you see so it’s the same way there’s something natural
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about it but however within ourselves we have a tiredness and a certain way we can call it this tiredness is created by so much energy and effort that is used for skipping the plan so therefore one of the greatest experience we can have is we wanted to feel cool that’s why we like coolness that’s why we like the bees like the breeze or the mountains or the there’s somewhere we feel like oh air conditioning and fan would have never been invented if people didn’t like brace if people
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didn’t want cool coolness there would have been never a fan so a condition ever invented but that’s the that’s the natural mechanical and artificial ways of trait in the coolness also there is coolness all the time every time when you open a window at all when you open a window or a door anywhere something enters it what entrance is a light and coolness we are familiar with the heat light we are family with the normal breeze that is coming out of the organic structure in which we live
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however there is a coolness that comes when we open our doors and the windows of our consciousness when we can open our doors for the windows of consciousness which is through our organic body we open not through our imagination we feel a certain kind of a coolness that can come and touch you and that’s what actually i call it the cool light or the whole bridge because it gives you a sense of lightness and a timelessness and that actually brings you into a space to appreciate in coolness you appreciate it in the
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wholeness you recognize things in heat you get excited in heat you get passion and that’s the difference okay that’s great i really appreciate that explanation thank you um i wanted to yes when we work with you yeah we often see light yeah what’s that all about the light is actually two things about the light there’s heat like what we see heat line what we see that’s a heat light is actually just a organic energy in which one of the quantities of the fire is fire radiates fire
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uh horizontal fire ascends fire illuminates and there are so many quantities of the natural fire and we are balls of heat and so whatever we see about life is actually in the form of that this is not a heat one this is not actually hitler this is almost like you have a whale around you like a like a wave around way and in that veil around you you see something you see something what do you see it’s your personal space in the veil you are covered with your personal story you’re covered about everything that you
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know about you have put a blanket or a towel over your face like it’s literally you are doing them in a sense you see so in a session what happens is it’s not actually there’s a light that comes out of you or anything else number one presence of light is a revelation you take anything out what do you see is right whenever you take a blanket or a one that is covering your eyes covering your being if it is open first thing you see is light and it is not actually just the light actually
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within you or around it’s just natural response any opening brings you like this second what we call goddess love love is god and everything but in a way to understand the energy and matter the manifestations of everything that is there manifestations of all the stars and we call it the infinity and everything there’s a lightness there’s love that holds everything in fact it is through our innocence and ignorance we actually manifested the whole idea even about high intelligence and
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god are our example of our innocence and sweetness to describe a love that is so supreme that we can’t relate to because of our human unworthiness we believe this there’s something that is there what is there is actually everything is connected with love everything is love but we are not able to relate that way because we don’t feel that way because we are selfish we are self-centered we are manipulative we are here to survive so we don’t normally experience that way we can’t experience that so we actually
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separated that outside as that exists but however there is no separation everything is connected every attempt every space is connection and in the in the very fiber of everything that exists there is love and that love is not a thought or emotion it’s a lightness everything is an absolute likeness that is beyond energy and matter that can make sense so when i actually just touch you it is not actually just my breath can contains fire it is transformer i am not a dragon in the human bone are you sure
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you’re a light dragon no if it is so if i’m just a dragon in the thing then it will be it will be a nice kick to you i mean it will be it will be only a like like a jump starter to a car yeah i will be just a battery giving you a just a jump starter because your battery is of act so it just gives you a thing and it’s not so it actually is an opening it’s an opening see even right now just come across a little bit closer even right now see light is in everything oh but [Laughter]
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that brings actually to the surface what was actually behind the energy and the matter that was there it just comes out it just comes out and that’s not actually what i do of course in a in a session i just leave you for a while so that it will touch you along and in silence in the space of silence but that’s that that’s the same same experience what you have right now oh it’s so wonderful and also it is not actually to the mind or to your heart or to your belly button anyway it’s to your whole wheel
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it just it just moves into you you see can you share that with us what i experienced was when tila first put his hands over me there was a great feeling of peace and just um almost like it was just very soft and all of my of my thought patterns kind of stopped and then uh when there there was almost like a explosion of and this time it was white light sometimes psychic colors this time it was white light that just exploded but in my whole beingness i wanted to ask you last night when i went to bed
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and i’ve had this experience before with the light at nighttime and all the lights are out and there’s all this light did you go to bed no yes otherwise you can find the best now last night i was every time i was moving i was experiencing these bright lights and they were coming from this side they were like wow i was lighting that door okay this is fun so is this um just from being so beautifully filled with life it’s actually a side effect because yesterday you also had a huge company yes so
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the referrals are there ripples will be there for a long time in fact actually although it is just an experience it’s interesting [Applause] it takes usually 72 hours in the normal cycle for ourselves to regenerate and you know we are always within our body also we are like our ocean yeah yeah anabolism and catabolism we are actually we are in a certain way we are opening and closing we are doing the energy cycles like you can see and it takes 72 hours for a cell to come back into his normal cycle
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you see so whenever you are touched with the spectrum it is almost like you had the truth serum like a truth serum means actually now i’m just saying for the lightness so it is in your body for about 72 hours it takes to digest just one session you experience like a one one impact it goes into your body and then in 72 hours it just begins to expand and then it goes forever that’s three days seventy two hours three days like then for about nine days afterwards they’re like waves you see waves for about 9 days then 27
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days like you see like it’s just that’s why you designed certain ways so that it takes you like a plane that is taking off like you know 33 days like i do certain things called intensives for those who they’re just very specific journey so brilliant light is actually given to you and it’s there in your body so it’s for about 33 or 66 days even if you try to sabotage you attempt to sabotage somewhere you see even if you try to you know sabotage when i say even if you try to sabotage
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you lose habitat without your knowledge it feels like you are just impatient and you you can’t just break the habit and it’s it’s not bad it’s just the very nature like if you really look at your life if you left it alone it would have been fine if you left yourself alone and not interfered with the normal process of awakening how can you hear it no that’s what actually it looks like that’s why you sabotage that that’s interesting thing about it because you have to put yourself into a drama
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otherwise it doesn’t feel right because you are not in the software right in the tv but you are so popular in your kitchen and your bedroom so so i mean that’s that’s a natural atom that comes at all my work with you and being with you has definitely made me do things to change my life i’ve seen that big time my question is what is it like i’ve had experiences with you where we have a session and especially the first one i remember karen i laughed for three days afterwards yes it was just like everything was
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funny and i just kept laughing yeah so what is it that creates that is it just taking away taking maybe actually most of your story and then then you are able to enjoy a certain presence within yourself and that’s very very important when the story is not there there’s no heaviness in the story says call so and so today call this do you send that this important this and that because they are all connected with a certain kind of manipulation manipulation why why you can laugh is only if you are effortless
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effortless you see effortlessness is a very difficult energy to understand if at least doesn’t mean actually you you are just doing nothing and lying down in the bed it means actually whether you are walking or whether you are cooking or whether you are doing things there is no energy generated in order to maintain or it is not a stressful point to bring about you see so that’s the very very important aspect about it is to understand that because basically most of the time what we are trying to
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do is to make sense or to be happy or awakening and enlightenment are just ideas or fantasies that one day you will be there but the truth about it is brings you in to challenge and provoke you to see if you love somebody how to really give without expecting it return how to really adapt to each moment without actually making a big stress or a chaos about it and a sweetness of who you are to bring to the surface will be to understand actually your very nature is has been selfish and self-centered
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and you are taking the steps or you may take step out of your way to go and even help somebody or to touch somebody because it feels very real not because it will reward you or it will bring you some other luck or doing anything and to see those things is very outrageous it’s very outrageous to see it takes courage to see that you are the humbuck he does he does he just takes courage and outrageousness and a real compassion heart to see actually how you are trying to do this you are trying to very cleverly in the name of
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spirituality and awakening you are slowly turning the world the way you want it to turn especially the very very dear loved people who are next to you now very cleverly they are loving them so they will behave and will satisfy you not about actually their life will be they saw that or very cleverly we are doing various things so that everything will be finally very happy then you can be at peace because you got what you want i mean when you can see that way if you can truly see actually that’s that’s
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talent for ego and your pride and your desires and your compulsions and obsession your needs your various needs you want like you see and out of which comes a very different healthy space that we’re opening to such a sweetness see most of the thing actually what we are trying to do is they are very bad for you it doesn’t look like they are very bad you see they are pretty bad for you and but you can argue and say no no it’s very good for me you know a little bit of party is not bad you know once in
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a while a little bit of drinks a little bit of this little put a little bit of everything he said it’s a big huge thing you see but what i’m saying is that these are challenges emotional challenges these are challenges to your ego if you really want to be a sacred worry and a spiritual warrior will challenge your mind it will challenge your heart in order to come out and show you are truly what you mean to be like you see because you may be holding four stages a couple of posters including your
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children or including your loved one without your knowledge as behaving and satisfying your needs and your ways so this is actually the truth when i say street not spirituality it brings a true bell you know it brings a real well to you you have to understand you are melodies you are trying to create a song satisfying you in true awakening you die not the physical death you die all the things with your all patterns your all mind your all habits it has to die and the birth of a new new area a new tom and a new mercy
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can emerge now your mind will say but excuse me i’m already about seventy years it doesn’t matter how old you are it doesn’t matter whether you are 17 or 70 years you still have a wonderful life ahead of you to experience in full blast and it challenges you to feel so sweet and loving and asking you you know all kinds of things that are there in your heart go away and see something very beautiful then only actually we can relate what is time what is playing with the forces or the elements
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and this is actually the basic preparation basic preparation is to really have a real life to express yourself outrageously fearlessly and taken a chance to lose what you already have and never get even what you want that kind of attitude to have that’s the true spiritual warriors in peace so that would be street smart spirituality no that will be the spiritual worry he will be walking on streets he will not be actually in the jungle so that for the mountains he’ll be actually he’ll be surfing on the on the water in
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the waves of maui or going around in new york city or it doesn’t matter where you are you see what it means is like he’s he’s blending with life he’s celebrating he’s he’s merging with everyday things that is there whether he is actually in a big city l.a in india or paris or in a sweet place like mavi or in sri lanka it doesn’t matter where you are but how he moves is with grace when i say grace racist is not like you know spacey out and just grace means actually a real
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interactive intimacy of life you move with actual coolness a lightness in your heart and your body you can be it doesn’t matter likeness doesn’t mean you have lost weight you can be three hundred pound or hundred pounds you can still feel the lightness it is not actually behavior or a condition that creates lightness lightness is not a condition lightness is a realization likeness is actually a space in which you feel about you and about other things and which you never can actually speak
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in words it’s a speechless recognition through which you move it live with such attitude and such grace whether you are moving on the 57th street and the fifth heavenly world walking on the beach in maori you feel the same kind of a grace of intimacy and you are walking with the breeze inside you and around you but you are a bowl of fire like a flame that is coming out if you breathe it can come out almost like fire that intensity to feel that way and your heart actually however managing like a velvet river to
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everything that you see i mean that kind of a feeling that is there even the space then actually whether they are just nothing there like the flowers that will blossom and come down to you or the birds that are singing you feel in absolute harmony with everything that is there now that’s actually worth living in this life to experience not in your next time to become a deity or they were to experience it is in this slide because you have suffered enough in this life you have also had great beautiful times in this life you can
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change that into something so wonderful now in the rest of the life what you have that is the attempt you are doing with me you’re coming and telling me i will come with you till when you say you will come with me stan and pamela and mike and robin and master what you are saying is actually you you are coming with me also means you are leaving something but leaving this this space and the past and this of no return to come with me is actually no return in a way into going back and sabotaging and doing
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that come with me also meaning you are burning your bodies into a beautiful breeze but you are able to see something that’s what you are doing richard is that’s what you are doing is actually just coming into me with all the challenges and the provocations that are there as you see and when you are closer and closer there will be more challenges not less challenges not actually less problems you see not that your problems and challenges are over now you can retire it’s not about retiring at all you will
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never retire if you are with me if you are with me you are going to actually pray until you die and even the time of death you will be prayed you will be saying yes yes to life i mean that kind of a force and that’s what actually you are here and that’s why i say like this is a celebration an adventure that you have been called upon you have been set upon to come and join this is a great way like a tidal wave that will come with a bunch of human beings not about thousands of people maybe a couple of dozen human beings
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only can create such a great force great force that can radiate it’s it’s it’s it’s itself into such a momentum that will touch others just like a breeze and the sunlight touch so many things so many people will be feeling your presence and your love and that can affect them your children’s children children will also feel you and that’s actually the true spirituality awakening means not about actually just doing something and trying to behave like you are a spiritual being when you have
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collapse inside your body or corrupts inside your mind or your heart and snoring inside nobody knows you are meditating speaking is to come out and just be a warrior be a worry actually means you are you are actually breaking the grounds within your heart of all the nonsense that has stepped upon you and makes you a prisoner inside and the walls have been taken out you are coming out and that’s actually the beauty about it thank you very much thank you that’s all [Applause] thank you very very much for joining us
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thank you tula for your beautiful words of wisdom and your light that you always put forth i love you i love you too and just in case maybe in your next life will not be jason [Applause] you know i wanted to take this moment on behalf of the maui arts and music association i’m gonna move this guy with the team ariel and i want to present you with this beautiful friend piece this is called the red bird of waikomoi oh my god they say birds of a feather flock together i know that i thought it was interesting
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because look right here on ron’s wall is the same piece that’s what i thought [Applause] it is our gift to you thank you for all that you do [Applause] you
